4WD Round 3 - Kidderminster - 27th May

[_sleigh_]

Usual post, regarding entries for next weeks Regional at Kiddy.

Send your entries to entry@brca-midwest.co.uk

Try to get them in early please, it does help me with the seeding of heat.


Current entry list below

[_sleigh_]

Entry list - 20th May - 47 drivers

Adam Tinsley
Alex Leek
Andrew Jones
Andy Mountford
Andy Reeves
Brian Preddy
Chris Bowater
Chris Dyke
Chris Mills
Clive Malland
Craig Jones
Dave Gibson
Dominic Hodges
Gareth Stanton
Ian Barnard
Ian Townsend
Jake Hemming
James Ambrose
James Evans
Jamie Banks
Jason Bennett
John Green
John Langley
Jonny Hodgson
Ken Rieth
Kyron Jarman
Lee Hazelwood
Mark Morris
Martin Booth
Mat Dodd
Matt Simpson
Michael Elliott
Michael Waugh
Mick Butler
Mike Temple
Neil Round
Neil Tinsley
Nick Dunn
Nick Oliver
Paul Robinson
Paul Wragg
Phil Sleigh
Rob Harris
Scott Whyman
Simon Moss
Tom Yardy
Tony Bishop

Update - 21st May - 52 Drivers

Andy Griffiths
Anthony Hackett
Jon Boe
Jonathan Clark
John Grindley

Update - 22nd May - 59 Drivers

Alex Hillman
Antony Parr
Ashley Williams
Callum Hodges
Craig Harris
David Hough
Nathan Ferguson

Update - 23rd May - 64 Drivers

Jason Potter
Kevin Redfern
Kirk Beasley
Mark Williamson
Nick Turner

[andy reeves]

Should be another good meeting this one, i always like racing at Kiddy. I just hope the tracks dried out slightly :cool:

[_sleigh_]

Entry update

[losixxx]

don't forget if you want and tyre's/spare's for kiddy phone mark 01527 577175 and they will be trackside for you
schumacher's and ballistic's

2 pairs 10% off
10 pair's 15% off

[_sleigh_]

Entry update.

[grindog]

has anyone got a postcode for the track please? I have no idea of the route.

Thanks, john

[Wraggy]

a posted by chris long on national thread

Kidderminster Fitness First
Foley Grove
Foley Park, Stourport Road
Kidderminster
DY11 7PT

http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=52.35707,-2.27224|16|4&loc=GB:52.36191:-2.26497:16|dy11%207pt|DY11%207PT

Right, following this link (Multimap.com search for DY11 7PT). Zoom in on the map, on the A451 from the circle for Fitness First, head South and just as the carriageway split into two lanes is approx where the track is (use Aerial view and you can just about make out the track here). OK, so in a car from there, you'll need to drive south from there on the A451 and you'll see a lane fork off from the carriageway for a chance to turn around - so go back and head north again up the A451 as the track will then be on your left.

[grindog]

Thanks for that.

Should be a good day, looking forward to it :)

[losixxx]

Sun 27 MayMorning8 °c6 °c11.1 mm100 %http://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/WIND/ESE.gif10 mphhttp://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/ANIMATED/LR.gifhttp://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/bullet_15.gifIn Detail (http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?day=5&zipcode=Kidderminster)Afternoon9 °c6 °c07.5 mm100 %http://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/WIND/E.gif10 mphhttp://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/ANIMATED/LR.gifEvening8 °c5 °c017.1 mm100 %http://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/WIND/ENE.gif18 mphhttp://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/ANIMATED/NHR.gif


think ballistic pink's are order of the day!!:D :D

[bert digler]

if its wet i aint riskin another brushless already 200 quid down:o

[losixxx]

dommy evo/quantum 2 rule!!:D got 2 for sale £75 a pop;)

[Wraggy]

if its wet i aint riskin another brushless already 200 quid down:o
which Brushless is it ??? cant you send it back under warranty ??:wtf:

[millzy]

i might end up runnig my b4 sunday see if i can th top side of the b with it agaisnt the 4wds again.

[markwilliamson2001]

Hi Phil,
Did you get my entry which I sent yesterday night as I don't appear to be on the above list?

Thanks
Mark Williamson

[_sleigh_]

The weather looks to be getting better.......

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=kidderminster

[_sleigh_]

Hi Phil,
Did you get my entry which I sent yesterday night as I don't appear to be on the above list?

Thanks
Mark Williamson

Yeah I got your entry. It's just that update was done yesterday morning.

I'll do another update tonight, currently upto 62 drivers. Lets hope the weather keeps improving. :)

[_sleigh_]

dommy evo/quantum 2 rule!!:D got 2 for sale £75 a pop;)

Sounds like a good deal :)

[Wraggy]

The weather looks to be getting better.......

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=kidderminster
by sunday it will be 25deg at this rate :p .
with all the technology nowdays you would of thought we might be able to predict weather in advance ... seems to change daily what its gonna be for the weekend ...:wtf:

[markwilliamson2001]

Thanks Phil, much appreciated. Just got to get Doom to do my cells now. Does anyone know where his shop/he has moved to because his shop is now a tatoo parlour!

M.

[_sleigh_]

Don't think he's got a shop front at the moment, best thing is to give him a call.

[_sleigh_]

Entry list updated

[ashleyb4]

I cant wait to take the xx4 around kiddy 2wd is ace and 4wd is evenmore ace.

Any setup advice phil???

A

[bert digler]

which Brushless is it ??? cant you send it back under warranty ??:wtf:

its a novak they dont like warrantying stuff as there rep told me at national to politely go away its not there problem:(

[tyreman]

If that was said I wouldn't touch there products again as a matter of principle. Think it time for you to go BLUE and get LRP with lifetime warrentys.

[bert digler]

If that was said I wouldn't touch there products again as a matter of principle. Think it time for you to go BLUE and get LRP with lifetime warrentys.

i have brian never had a prob with lrp or nosram so thats wot ive bought two telling customers to go away (verbally) by a company rep is not a way to deal with a problem to be honest the mudfish team have bought novak units everyone has failed so five outa five aint bad is it:D

[Doomanic]

Think it time for you to go BLUE and get LRP with lifetime warrentys.

Whilst the LRP warranty is the best out there, it still has conditions that need to be followed.


All products from LRP electronic (hereinafter called “LRP”) are manufactured according to the highest
quality standards. LRP guarantees this product to be free from defects in materials or workmanship for 90
days (non-european countris only) from the original date of purchase verified by sales receipt. This limited
warranty doesn’t cover defects, which are a result of normal wear, misuse or improper maintenance. This
applies among other things on:
• Cut off original power plug or not using reverse polarity protected plugs
• Receiver wire and/or switch wire damaged
• Mechanical damage of the case
• Humidity/Water inside the speed control
• Mechanical damage of electronical components/PCB
• Soldered on the PCB (except on external solder-tabs)
• Connected speed-control with reversed polarity

[millzy]

its a novak they dont like warrantying stuff as there rep told me at national to politely go away its not there problem:(

was it a grey import

[Wraggy]

its a novak they dont like warrantying stuff as there rep told me at national to politely go away its not there problem:(
no warranty is covered by water damage though...not even LRP..
did you get it from UK Dist ??

[bert digler]

no warranty is covered by water damage though...not even LRP..
did you get it from UK Dist ??

it was bought from a uk ebayer and it does say water resistant on the box so i think water damage should covered or its a blatent case of false advertising so why make claims of a products performance then abuse the customer:(

[bert digler]

was it a grey import

irrespective of country of purchase if i buy a car from ford and it breaks down in spain or france the dealer should repair it if its a warranty claim the same rule applies here i wont be purchasing any cml products again after there expert customer care tactics i will buy from abroad bits for my b4 :D

[Body Paint]

I'm surprised it says waterproof on the box as I've never seen it in any of there literature, that's weird!

BERT: Would you have prefered CML to have asked you to send the unit back (at your cost) then send it back to Novak for them to look at then when they come back weeks later and say "warrenty is void because it's got wet" OR CML rep says "TBH your novak warrenty is void as it's got wet" saving you weeks or even months of sitting on your thumbs with no speedo ???

The reps know there suppliers and know what they will or will not replace. And it's not exactly CML's policy that has stung you. I think boycotting CML is a bit of an over reaction really. I know a guy at our club who had a Checkpoint motor replaced recently because the bearing holder in the enbell was faulty, they replaced the whole motor, no messing.

[bert digler]

I'm surprised it says waterproof on the box as I've never seen it in any of there literature, that's weird!

BERT: Would you have prefered CML to have asked you to send the unit back (at your cost) then send it back to Novak for them to look at then when they come back weeks later and say "warrenty is void because it's got wet" OR CML rep says "TBH your novak warrenty is void as it's got wet" saving you weeks or even months of sitting on your thumbs with no speedo ???

The reps know there suppliers and know what they will or will not replace. And it's not exactly CML's policy that has stung you. I think boycotting CML is a bit of an over reaction really. I know a guy at our club who had a Checkpoint motor replaced recently because the bearing holder in the enbell was faulty, they replaced the whole motor, no messing.

its not the first occasion this has happened to my knowledge two previous occasions not myself where novak products have failed and customers being told where to go. one being a friend of mine and another being a midwest driver who had to approach trading standards to solve the issue i am not prepared to go that far as i have no faith in the product and to be told to f off was not professional i konw it was out of work hours so i will not say who it was but if i told my customers to go away even out of time i would be not giving a good impression this is not a whinge but other companys will at least be courtious:(

[Doomanic]

it was bought from a uk ebayer and it does say water resistant on the box so i think water damage should covered or its a blatent case of false advertising so why make claims of a products performance then abuse the customer:(

Chances are that it didn't come from CML in that case.
All warranty returns need to be accompanied with proof of purchase from an authorised CML dealer.

[bert digler]

Chances are that it didn't come from CML in that case.
All warranty returns need to be accompanied with proof of purchase from an authorised CML dealer.

it was bought within the uk but original supplier not known as it was bought off a member of this site but as a authorised dealer a simple sorry mate you got to contact novak direct would have sufficed.i have no gripe with lhs you are as much victims as the punters nosram or lrp dont do this and cheers dom you where right when asked you.

[ashleyb4]

Cant wait until kiddy now i had a ace night tonight at club in my last round i was doing really well. So bring on kiddy

A

[tonymon]

i had an ace night too, still awake from some extreme lashing!!! oh ye, bring on kiddy!!!!

[Wraggy]

so why make claims of a products performance then abuse the customer:(

i hardly think you got abused !!!! so a slight if not over exageration on your behalf ... (i know abuse i get every weekend).

and i cant see how an electronic piece of equipment is being advertised as "water resistant" ....

[bigred5765]

almost all last years quantum2 and nosrams etc were all water proof, and it does say water resistant on the box of novaks

[markwilliamson2001]

Weather Report!

Looks like the weather might be pretty bad this weekend! What happens in case of the track being flooded on the Sunday? Would this mean the meeting have to be re-scheduled?

M.

[bert digler]

almost all last years quantum2 and nosrams etc were all water proof, and it does say water resistant on the box of novaks
thankyou;)

[Wraggy]

almost all last years quantum2 and nosrams etc were all water proof, and it does say water resistant on the box of novaks
reading that more yes it may well say water resistant but water proof is a totally different kettle of fish ...
for example my vectra is "water resistant" drive it into a river and oohh guess what ...

[bert digler]

reading that more yes it may well say water resistant but water proof is a totally different kettle of fish ...
for example my vectra is "water resistant" drive it into a river and oohh guess what ...

it should say nothing then you aint gonna question it
:D

[losixxx]

well my waterPROOF quantum 2 should be fine at kiddy sunday according to metacheck :D :D , still got a couple for sale if anyone want's to race ALL day;)

[Wraggy]

well my waterPROOF quantum 2 should be fine at kiddy sunday according to metacheck :D :D , still got a couple for sale if anyone want's to race ALL day;)
ill be fine thanks chris ;) my S4 is fairly "water proof " unless you have the airducts open in it ....
(thats put the kiss of death on it now) :wtf:

[millzy]

i still need that blue tack chris.....lol

ip6 is really good in water, im not telling you the stuff i did when mtroinks asked me to test one back last August...all im saying is it laster longer than my mobile did

[emzy]

Weather Report!

Looks like the weather might be pretty bad this weekend! What happens in case of the track being flooded on the Sunday? Would this mean the meeting have to be re-scheduled?

M.

You'll bloody well race, grin and bear it... National-styleeee!!

(only kidding).

[millzy]

remember telford last year? it was worse than the kiddy nat and we all raced.

[losixxx]

ill be fine thanks chris ;)

famous last word's paul:D

[losixxx]

it took me about 2 weeks to clean the xx4 after telford regional last year, in the end i took everything out and chucked it in dishwasher. was fun though

[millzy]

i took my car home in a black bag. took me ages to take it apart and remeber how it all went back togeather - no manual and chris long built it so i didnt have a clue what went where.

still i got pinks and greens and yellows left over

[Wraggy]

famous last word's paul:D
i couldnt possibly blow 3 speedos in 3 meetings surely ??

or could i ?? :eh?:

[Dan-0ward]

remember telford last year? it was worse than the kiddy nat and we all raced.

it may have been worse than kiddy but everyone still went home after round 2!!

[_sleigh_]

I think Millzy was on about the National, but yeah the regional was pretty bad too.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/telford260806/bigimages/telford2wd057.jpg

[tyreman]

In light of the weather tomorrow would it be possible to run the regional on Monday, as the weather is alot better:confused:
Would this be possible, what would people think??

[ashleyb4]

Your not scared of a little rain brian!!!!

I think its a bit short notice and some people have plans with the families etc to go to the beach.:confused:

A

[tyreman]

A little rain, no, but when we are likley to get twice as much as the national, regardless of whether your equiptment is waterproof or not, I think we will be pushing our luck. I would be supprised if it's not cancelled before a round is even run.

[MATTY]

Monday good for me !

[k£v!n]

Its a good idea but I personally think its a little to late to tell everyone, and like Ashley said some people may have other commitments on the monday!

Kev

[bigred5765]

good for me too

[markwilliamson2001]

You have my vote, if not Monday how about the following weekend, since their are no Nationals or other regionals in the region on?

I think Dom has my vote on this as well!

MW

[GeneralZod]

Ah... The voice of reason...

Well done Brian for saying what everyone is thinking!

Monday's weather is forecast as sunshine and dryness:), yet tomorrow is forecast for grim end-of-the-world type weather :(

Alternatively, next Sunday is free except for Border Counties at Dudlaaaaay...

Kidderminster is a great track, but racing in the rain is miserable... It would be a shame to ruin 4WD at Kidderminster twice in one season :(

[Doomanic]

A postponement gets my vote!

If it's raining tomorrow, neither I nor C'lum will be racing...

Has anybody suggested this to the Club??

[losixxx]

bit unfare to the people who have arrangements for monday and next weekend. if it is cancelled tomorrow think it shouldnt be rearranged just have 2 from 4 to count

[markwilliamson2001]

Sounds like a good idea, otherwise I (and others) would not be eligible for end of season finals. Should Phil or someone from Kiddy make an official statement to clear things up. I do think that it is wasteful travelling to Kiddy only to find that the meeting has to be cancelled or just do two rounds in the p***ing rain and ruin good electrics...

If it is chucking it down in the morning when I get up, then I won't be coming.

Just my 2 cents...
MW

[MATTY]

We should all pit on the track and race throw the tents!!!:D now that would be fun !!!

[tyreman]

Spoke to PW and he said the meeting is on as far as he is concerned, any disicion will be made tomorrow.

[GeneralZod]

Well done Brian.

Thanks for the confirmation...

[_sleigh_]

As has just been said, the meeting tomorrow will continue as planned. The weather forecast is hardly "end-of-the-world" conditions, it's estimated to be rainy during the day. I know the Kidderminster club will have surveyed the track and it's current conditions, so I back them in their decision.

We've all raced in rain before, it just seems that over the last few years the tendency has been to shy away from it. Now before anyone starts the "well you don't pay for your stuff", well yes I do and probably the same sort of prices you can all get if you shop around. If I were to blow a speedo in the rain, then I'd be buying a new one just the same as anyone else.


I know most of us had a miserable day at the National earlier in the month. But if it had been sunny at that meeting, would nearly as many of you be suggesting postponing/cancelling this regional.

The decision at the National wont force us to start setting a precedent for any other rain affected meetings. Until we actually get the day of a race meeting, it is unlikely anyone of us can predict the true weather conditions.


Before asking for a postponement, please consider all those racers that have commitments on the day(s) that you are suggesting to re-run the meeting. Most of us plan months in advance to ensure we have the time off work etc.... so trying to plan at such short notice is unlikely to please many.

[DaveG28]

Hi All,

I will be there tomorrow, never run in the rain before tho!

Are there any easy steps I can try and take to at least minimise the chances of destroying some ofmy equipment such as tranny/speedo etc?

Cheers,

Dave

[bert digler]

Monday good for me !

ill do monday but no way tommorow;)

[bert digler]

Hi All,

I will be there tomorrow, never run in the rain before tho!

Are there any easy steps I can try and take to at least minimise the chances of destroying some ofmy equipment such as tranny/speedo etc?

Cheers,

Dave

dont run it:D

[DaveG28]

How bad is it though? As a naive young thing, everything except the rear drivetrain is inside the car with an udertray etc anyway, does that much water really get into them?

[tyreman]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o86/tyreman/CIMG1019.jpg
If this don't work nothing will:eh?: :rolleyes:

[emzy]

I don't envy you trying to get it all off again... I HATE blue tak in my nails...!

[bert digler]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o86/tyreman/CIMG1019.jpg
If this don't work nothing will:eh?: :rolleyes:

mine looked like that at kiddy except orange plastic not blu tac:D :o

[ashleyb4]

Water prrofing is going to be an issue i have covered up all the holes under my chassis is duck tape. Ive got blue tack over my speedo and motor and reciever. I going to duck tape my body on and ill carfully mould some blue tack in the gaps. And if that doesnt wrk im going to put my speedo in a ballon i have a nice choice to between siver and purple.

A:D

[Kopite]

just got back in from a night out in Liverpool (Robin Lucas pulled an orange bird), and got SHAT ON by the god of rain! i don't envy u guys tomorrow, but i hope it holds out for y'all!!!

:)

[matdodd]

Were at home now mate, rain stop play :(

[_JP_]

well it was good to see everyone today :)
pitty about the rain grrr

[k£v!n]

Its a shame the rain stopped us from racing! Do you think the club will do anything to the track to maybe help drainage?

Kev

[ashleyb4]

Oh well life goes on im annoyed now cus i went to a party last night and i didnt have anything to drink so i was ok this morning and i came home early so i wasnt to tired. And i spent most of yesterday sorting my car.

I think the two day event would be ace the weekend after bury national if it wont be run as a 2 day event, then i dont think they should rescedual it. And just have 2 rounds to count.

A

[neiloliver]

oh dear :( (i only just woke up anyway, bad day at wembley yesterday)

[ashleyb4]

And the worse thing was 2 and 1/2 hours of mums crap music.:mad:

A

[emzy]

Bright sunshine up here... I'm considering going down to the beach to sunbathe...!

It was pretty much the same the National weekend too - South Shields... its the place to be!

[GRIFF55]

that was an expensive non racing day for me!!!!!
travelling is a killer:(
Bloody 4am start too

[_JP_]

Oh well life goes on im annoyed now cus i went to a party last night and i didnt have anything to drink so i was ok this morning and i came home early so i wasnt to tired.

A

No drink, bah I don't think Pepsi or tango would have affected your driving, LOL

[ashleyb4]

You get what i mean jason;) I was so determind to do well this time with the xx4 the car was going really nice and i really wanted to race and get some good points. This is the second meeting ive had a party the night before.

A

[ashleyb4]

Also my water prrofing workedive just tested it on the drive it was ace.

A

[markwilliamson2001]

Allright guys,

I made the decision to stay at home after the terrible weather that greeted me this morning. What happened in the end? Has their been an official decision on what will happen for a planned meeting/reschedule?

Thanks,
MW

[ashleyb4]

We had a bit of a meeting and paul Worsley and Phil sleigh where getting peoples views on rescedualing to another date later in the year or possibly a two day meeting on the weekend on there 2wd regional. But nothing has been comfirmed yet. So just got to wait still go lots of time yet:)

I like the idea of a two day meeting.

A

[k£v!n]

There has been talk to run a 2 day event on the weekend after bury nat, because they have a 2wd regional that weekend, so they were talking about either running a 2 day event with 2wd on one day then 4wd on another or moving it to another date in the distant future. However as far as i am aware this is not confirmed yet.

Added - Just finished writing and Ashley has beat me to it :D

[ashleyb4]

IM not just quicker than you on the track then kev:D

A

[markwilliamson2001]

Thanks guys, that really clears things up. I think the people in charge made the right decision not to run the meeting. Well done chaps!! Went to see pirates of the caribbean 3. Was okay.... but at least it was dry!

Ta
Mark

[k£v!n]

Thats not a very nice thing to say ashley, just remember that im taller then you! :D


I wish i went out to the cinima ive been board all day, however i did watch a movie which was quite good, but i fell to sleep and missed then end :(

Anyway deep down I think we all know that canceling the meeting was the right thing to do!

[ashleyb4]

Your taller than everyone people except for mini kev.

A:D

[k£v!n]

Yeah good point! :D Ill stop posting off topic stuff now

[_JP_]

You get what i mean jason;) I was so determind to do well this time with the xx4 the car was going really nice and i really wanted to race and get some good points. This is the second meeting ive had a party the night before.

A

LOL yea I know, actually I spent sat getting my car sorted and tyres glued up, I normally do it on the day but wanted to make an effort, dam rain!!!

any way my best results have been after a good night with the lads some didn't even make it to race lol

[losixxx]

see new poll ref rearranged date's