front axles

[paulc]

hi

not to impressed with having to grind down the front axles so it would fit in the box at the worksop meeting i need to grind more off but need some low profile lock nuts whats everybody using ?

cheers paul

[jimmy]

I'm using hotbodies serrated nuts.

[Diesel]

I use Core RC serrated nuts

[chris68nufc]

Any ideas if there are new ones coming out to satisfy 'The Box'??

[Northy]

New what? :confused:

[chris68nufc]

God damn new front axels Mr North. Did your Durango fit in the box without the need of a dremel??

[paulc]

i don't think they'll bring new axles out im off to get myself a dremel i thought them days where over after getting rid of the x6 !

[MALLET]

Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

[paulc]

Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

they need dremelling down too :(

[MALLET]

I don't think so as the clue is in the name, they are Core low profile

[paulc]

i have them on my car it still gets stuck in the box

[MALLET]

is it getting stuck with the tyres or axles.

Did you try the box with no wheels on?

[paulc]

it's getting stuck on the axles / wheel nuts yes the wheels were on

[MALLET]

Did you try the box without the wheels, as the schewy rubber hangs over the rim more one way than the other. If you glue them with the writing to the inside then they don't hang over too much

[Northy]

It's not the rubber fouling......

G

[DCM]

It's not the rubber fouling......

G

nothing worse than getting your rubber fouled and chafed!!! :woot:

[paulc]

i have the writing on the tyre to the outside and the wheel nut sticks out another 2 to 3mm ish past that when it's in the box you can hear metal on metal rubbing so it is the axle/wheelnut catching

[mark christopher]

Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

i would have had loads, ordered 200 nuts, will be £1.50 for 4 or £2.50 for 8, but my supplier let me down and not getting them till monday.:thumbdown:

mine fitted in the box using these and my dremel.

there were some not very observant durango owners at the worksop do then ;)

[telboy]

It is annoying, I had to do it for the F345's. Its borderline at the moment. but just about passable. Spent more time getting it legal, than concentrating on set-up. lol

[DCM]

to be fair, on a car costing £450, it should fit in the box, no dremmeling at all...

[chris68nufc]

This is why i have post regarding new axels. Surely Durango care if its a design mistake. I think we should all be given the new ones for free.
I dont think that there is an advantage to be had with the cars front end but a rule is a rule.
Did anybody get refused for scrutineering at last weeks event with a Durango?

[MALLET]

mine fitted in the box using these and my dremel.

there were some not very observant durango owners at the worksop do then ;)

Mark knows I dremelled someone's shaft down Sunday :blush: :D :D

[paulc]

to be fair, on a car costing £450, it should fit in the box, no dremmeling at all...

totally agree

[chris68nufc]

You have got to get grief about that statement Mallet:D

[MALLET]

I was waiting for you to chirp up Chris :p :woot: :woot:

[Adam Skelding]

Ok.
The second batch of kits onwards have shorter CVD axles on the front. All these have are shorter threaded ends than the 'old' versions

Stack up of tolerances on the components can make some cars tight, so dremelling of the end has been necessary to some cars.

I ran mine at the Euro's, 3 nationals and a regional without it failing scrutineering.

I guess since the car has come to the fore in the 'off' season where scrutineering isn't so 'popular' then the problem has been 'masked'.

We're testing some low profile nuts at the moment. So we'll have some of these out soon.

Like we've said before if you have an issue with your kit please get in contact with us, or speak to one of the Team drivers, that's what we're here for.

I know for a fact that other manufacturers cars failed on a similar issue and one of them costs more than ours ;) and it has less driveshafts ;)

[Takes2home]

Hi guys, sorry for my stupid question: but what is "the box"? What do you mean with the writing on the inside/out side?
I am just curios.
Ps i don t know if it helps but the tresrey axle have a shorter tread and the nuts are flat..more than the stock durango wheel nuts.
Bye

[paulc]

at regional and national BRCA events the cars have to fit in a box and be over a certain wieght to be legal and durango don't quite fit in the box without abit of dremel work on the axles/wheelnuts

i take it you mean the writing on the tyre just to say what it is eg schumacher minispike

and the tresrey axles would work but may need abit of dremel work

cheers paul

[mark christopher]

Mark knows I dremelled someone's shaft down Sunday :blush: :D :D
shhh dont own up to somin like that lol

[mark christopher]

i had to dremel 3mm bout off mine
once the old ones are reworked with a dremel the mk2 versions are physically then the same as you have?

is this not "model" car racing?

As part of being a modeller, dont you change,alter,rework stuff for your own benift?


does efra/ifmar etc all run the same width rule?

[JohnM]

And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

[mark christopher]

And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

bet you darent challeng mr Worsley with that one... it was the national alloy box in use!

[Northy]

And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

Step away from the keyboard, trust me, the box IS correct. You don't even want to go down the "the box is not right" route ;)

G

[mark christopher]

Step away from the keyboard, trust me, the box IS correct. You don't even want to go down the "the box is not right" route ;)

G
i tried lol :woot:
did not get very far :cry:

[Takes2home]

Thank you for the information about the box.
Here is a picture with the difference between Tresrey and Team Durango axle and wheel nut.
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/svenskan99/276_7644_700_525.jpg

[DCM]

3mm is more than a cumulation of tolerances.... if that is both sides, thats a 1/4" in total...

[paulc]

takes2home

yes i think alot of people are changing to the low profile serrated nut but even that needs alittle bit grinding of it

[samd]

No excuse for a top end race car not to be made within the rules, or new correct parts be supplied to 'kit 1' buyers free of charge.

[mark christopher]

takes2home

yes i think alot of people are changing to the low profile serrated nut but even that needs alittle bit grinding of it

my nuts were ok!!

[HyperFX]

OK. So what, exactly, is the maximum allowable width?

[paulc]

250mm max width my cars measuring 252mm with the low profile nuts on and it's allready had some grinding more grinding required :(

paul

[telboy]

But surely, if its just the axles, why is it such a problem?
I know I've fallen foul of the rule, but found it annoying because it doesn't provide any advantage as such.
Now if it was the wheels/tyres that didn't fit in the box then yes, it would provide an advantage.

Does the rule need amending/re-wording?
I think it does.