Oswestry National 14th/15th July

[neiloliver]

I know Bury is still going on, but i wanted to start the thread before i went away for the week. You are welcome to view the Oswestry website at

http://www.oswestryrcc.org.uk/

and see our dedicated National information page at

http://www.oswestryrcc.org.uk/National2007.htm

The club is really looking forward to hosting it's second National and we hope the weather will be as good (+32°C) as last year to make it a real Ozfest!

Neil

[Chris Doughty]

is it going to be the case where we need to bring our 4.5's and 3.5's with us?

[Southwell]

Please no, shorter straight this year please, ill kill my motors every run if i have to run an 8 to keep up with brushless. O and a more forgiving jump :P
Do i have to register with Jeff that i want to camp or is this only for caravans, it's not too clear on the site....

[ashleyb4]

The track is being design as you speak and we have learnt from our mistakes dont worry the track this year will be much better. That is all im are going to say ;)

A

[millzy]

less of a power track and more of a skill track would be nice this year

but im sure you guys will put a lot of effrot in like you did last year

[ashleyb4]

The national page is looking really good neil the new banner is ace.

A

[emzy]

Do i have to register with Jeff that i want to camp or is this only for caravans, it's not too clear on the site....

I was wondering that... do tents need to register?!

I hope the weather's the same as last year... mmmmm, sunshine!

[ashleyb4]

I havent got a clue about tents but caravan will have to book a spot but dont quote me on this hopefully neil or one of the other club commitee members will confirm this in the next few days please be patcient if you dont get a reply for a few days as neil is in dubai and jeff is on holiday.:)

A

[k£v!n]

As far as i know tents dont have to register but please confirm this with a member of the club committee!

Kev

[neiloliver]

Only Caravans need to be registered. Tents do not. This is a condition of the contract we have with the show ground owners. I will amend the website when i get back..

N

[emzy]

Is it sunny over there? :(

[Chrislong]

I still registered a week or two ago, even though its just my tent sleeping two occupants. it wasn't clear but id rather register unneceserily than not register when i should, so for the sake an email I did it... but nevermind.

Looking forward to it. I presume we'll be on the exact same section of grass as last year?

[ashleyb4]

Yup up on the bank chris just like last year. It had the first cut a week last thursday.

A

[ashleyb4]

And yop emz its very sunny indead my sister fell to sleep and got sun burn. Its been really warm.

A

[emzy]

And yop emz its very sunny indead my sister fell to sleep and got sun burn. Its been really warm.

A

I was talking about in Dubai!

[Southwell]

Ahahahaaaaa, yes its 45 in the day and 30 at night, the mrs' rents moved there this year....well Abu Dhabi, but close enough.

[emzy]

Celcius?! Ouch...!

[Southwell]

Yeah but they got air con in the street! how cool is that!!!!
Can't wait to go over, got a pent house to stay in :D

[Bathy]

Yeah but they got air con in the street! how cool is that!!!!


I'm no 'hug a tree' environmentalist... but... air con in the street!!! silly.

Back on topic... looking forward to Oz, can we have a bar, or at least a place to cool beers? Lots of ice in buckets please is my request ;)

[millzy]

we had a ice at Bury, ASDA down the road had bags of them, kept the whiskey cool in the night and the redbull cool in the day

[neiloliver]

Website updated (just got home at 6pm.. it was 1am UK time when i got up this morning so im wrecked)..

It was +40°C in the day, but very dry heat. Not like Hong Kong which is very humid. Went on a 4x4 Desert Safari.. 12 Toyota Landcruisers in convoy.. awesome!.. but it was a business trip so dont tell anyone... Shhhh...

N

[Kopite]

we had a ice at Bury, ASDA down the road had bags of them, kept the whiskey cool in the night and the redbull cool in the day

?? were you copying us?

[emzy]

Yeah he was, are you gonna fight him?

[neiloliver]

Less than two weeks to go now....

We are finalising the details of the track features and evening activities... will post soon... :)

all i can say is that you should not need to bring your own beers and you had better get your brains in gear...

N

[bert digler]

Less than two weeks to go now....

We are finalising the details of the track features and evening activities... will post soon... :)

all i can say is that you should not need to bring your own beers and you had better get your brains in gear...

N

thats me knackered :D

[PaulRotheram]

how's the track holding up to this crazy weather?

[neiloliver]

The permanent track is a bit of a boating lake, but the bank for the national is fine, we have had it fenced off now for some time and have been mowing it for the past 6 weeks.

[IceMike]

You never need to worry about Oswestry. its a well known wet track, but always raceable.

[Gemma]

Will there be any entertainment this year?

[IceMike]

Is that what you want?

[Gemma]

Erm.........if its on then yeah.

Just asking the question! Was there anything planned?

[IceMike]

:cool: Our website will be updated shortly with all of the details dont worry.

[Gemma]

Okay thank you!!! :)

[neiloliver]

Its not that we are keeping you in the dark, we are just awaiting confirmation on something.

N

[neiloliver]

Details of the Oswestry national now updated. Please visit

http://www.oswestryrcc.org.uk/National2007.htm

Which team will be crowned the Wizards of Oz?

Neil

[MATTY]

Team mudfish will enter a full quiz team only if the wining prise is more beer!!!:D:D

[k£v!n]

Just to let you guys know its been raining a lot here at Oswestry but the grass area where the track will be is holding out nicely!

[PaulRotheram]

another rainy race meet.. lovely

[Gaz_Stanton]

another rainy race meet.. lovely

No chance! The sunshine has been booked for that weekend. :cool:

[neiloliver]

Who is going to enter a team in the Quiz? Only Phil Channon and I know the questions/answers so there will be at least one Oswestry team made up of other club members.

N

[bert digler]

Team mudfish will enter a full quiz team only if the wining prise is more beer!!!:D:D

if we need to win mat i better lay of the bevvys till at least leg 1 of the a final :D

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Can one of the Oswestry lot tell me if there is an Asda Tesco or any other supermarket near the track, and is there a chippy near as well or any other form of takeaway thank you.:)

[Colinevan]

Is there still places available for 4wd? I know a few peeps that may be up for it?

Thanks

Col.:cool:

[jimmy]

sorry mate, there are no places - maybe get in on the day.

I am doing neither, and it doesnt look like vicky is racing either (and she entered all 6 nationals):yawn:

[emzy]

Can one of the Oswestry lot tell me if there is an Asda Tesco or any other supermarket near the track, and is there a chippy near as well or any other form of takeaway thank you.:)

Yep! Oswestry town is a couple of minutes drive away... there's a supermarket (Sainsburys I think?) and then chip shops, Chinese takeaways etc etc there too.

[neiloliver]

Thankyou Em, do you want an Oswestry job in Public Relations? :)

Oswestry is a small county town and has all the normal stuff you would expect for one.. it is just five minutes away, the other side of the bypass.

N

[losixxx]

well at the moment the metcheck website reckons rain all day both days! :(

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/7days.asp

[Southwell]

O no it doesnt! ;)

[k£v!n]

Can one of the Oswestry lot tell me if there is an Asda Tesco or any other supermarket near the track, and is there a chippy near as well or any other form of takeaway thank you.:)

We have a sainsburys and other leading supermarkets but no tesco or asda, which are located in the town, there is also a chippy in whittington which is down the road!

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Thank you for the replys.:)

[losixxx]

O no it doesnt! ;)
oh yes it does:mad: :D

[emzy]

Thankyou Em, do you want an Oswestry job in Public Relations? :)


Sorry! *embarassed face* Didn't mean to steal your thunder! :)

[neiloliver]

its ok Em, i was being honest, not sarcastic!...

:)N

I think the weather will most likely be mixed listening to the local radio this morning. fingers crossed though.

[PaulRotheram]

Have you got the jumps built for the event? what are they like? I'm looking forward to the weekend for sure.

[IceMike]

as normal the track details are top secret :P

[k£v!n]

As ive said before, the track is holding out nicely, freshly cut with no water present!

[losixxx]

Evening 12 °c 10 °c0 ''49.1 mm'' 100 %http://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/WIND/N.gif11 mphhttp://www.metcheck.com/IMAGES/GENERIC/ICONS/ANIMATED/NHR.gif

sunday evenings drive homes looking good

[neiloliver]

on the bbc site is is showing sunny for sat and sun... but it changes all the time, they dont really know do they...?

Neil

[emzy]

When I looked yesterday BBC said rain all weekend!

[Wraggy]

When I looked yesterday BBC said rain all weekend!
well its sunny where im going !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :cool: lol ...

[losixxx]

if you can walk to the airplane that is:D

[Wraggy]

if you can walk to the airplane that is:D
no worries now chris ;) drugs are working a treat ...im defo going ...
missus has to put up with me now ..

[losixxx]

just watch out for the sniffer dogs with all those drug's your popping!, full body search would cap the weekend off nicely ;)

[emzy]

just watch out for the sniffer dogs with all those drug's your popping!, full body search would cap the weekend off nicely ;)

Even better... INTERNAL SEARCH!

And anyway, they don't even speak proper Spanish where you're going, how rubbish!

[Northy]

So what's the post code? The girls on msn can't make thier minds up!!

G

[neiloliver]

SY11 4AS will get you very close. The showground does not have a postcode itself but a bit of googling has given this postcode for a number of surrounding buildings. You should be able to smell the burger van from anywhere inside this area so you should be OK.

not long to go now!.....

[bert digler]

SY11 4AS will get you very close. The showground does not have a postcode itself but a bit of googling has given this postcode for a number of surrounding buildings. You should be able to smell the burger van from anywhere inside this area so you should be OK.

not long to go now!.....

ave u sin the forecast :D

[neiloliver]

both the met office site and bbc site have saturday sunny, sunday also sunny but heavy rain late in the day...

I will tell you what the wether will be like this weekend... next monday... we are all guessing... if it rains we will cope. the track is on a bank so it wont flood unless it totally stair rods it down... you lot worry too much :) I want to know who has a pub team quiz sorted for saturday night?

[_sleigh_]

ave u sin the forecast :D

Which one, I've looked at 4 different sites and three look good.

[Northy]

I do nearly :)

G

[bert digler]

I do nearly :)

G

metcheck:o its never right:D

[losixxx]

metcheck:o its never right:D
more accurate than bbc and weatheronline:wtf:

[PaulRotheram]

i assume the grid co ordinates are correct? lat/long? as this is what i'll be using...

[neiloliver]

They should put you either:

a) Halfway down the main straight
b) Halfway down the high street in Bagdad

I have not tested them really.. i did it on multimap... (fingers crossed)

[Oscar]

They should put you either:
a) Halfway down the main straight
b) Halfway down the high street in Bagdad


I'd send Paul to the latter if I were you ;):D:D

[Gaz_Stanton]

just been down the track and you'll be pleased to know it was scorching hot, couldn't work on it during the heat of the day. :)

ignore the forecasts and bring plenty of water, the sun has been ordered... :cool:

[k£v!n]

I dont know which track you went to Gaz, its not scorching hot just hot :D

[MATTY]

Is it raining there, like it is here in cannock :(

[IceMike]

a little bit but the sun is expected. and the water runs straight off the track. so its all good

[emzy]

G text me saying its peeing down...

[millzy]

it be raining in southwales :(

leaving in 3 hours

[Kopite]

it's been pissing down all day. Ah well, i suppose we're due some rain cos we've had such great weather recently.

....hold on...:o :o :o

[millzy]

wednesday was the summer, im sun burnt almost all over so the rain is due i guess

[_sleigh_]

Tomorrow's forecast doesn't look to bad, but it looks like it'll start raining at 2:43pm on sunday and it'll be heavy.

[Kopite]

Phil, are you sure? I heard it was 2.44pm?

[_sleigh_]

Perhaps we should have a sweepstake on it...

[millzy]

pack of monster much (flaming hot) says it will rain at 314pm tomz

[GRIFF55]

I'll go with 3.05pm sunday( i love monster munch, mmmm):D

[millzy]

i wanted cheetos, but couldnt get them over in time, so on a late night bbq food hunt last night i noticed tesocs selling a big bag full so i had to add them to the trollie

[bert digler]

i wanted cheetos, but couldnt get them over in time, so on a late night bbq food hunt last night i noticed tesocs selling a big bag full so i had to add them to the trollie

the bloke on the radio i think hes on crack has forecast a mini heatwave;)

[_sleigh_]

it wasn't "John Warner's sattelite weather" was it? I work with his son and he's off is trolley

[millzy]

mini heat wave, yeah there will be in a few tents if some brushluss untis get wet

[bert digler]

it wasn't "John Warner's sattelite weather" was it? I work with his son and he's off is trolley

apperently so the monk sez he was on beacon radio he must be off his trolley:D

[GRIFF55]

Hope the weather there is better than it is here in s wales, it's pi##ed down all day.

[Kopite]

how many times...pickled onion monster munch is the DADDY!

[neiloliver]

It was raining at the track at 9am ths morning when i got there and it was still raining at 4:30 when i left. The good news is that the track is holding up well due to it being on a slope. We are ready to go. The forecast for tomorrow is still good, not good for SUnday afternoon though.

[tc2k]

Soooo, anyone know what went down. Looks like it was rain over the whole of the UK today so wonder if it was a washout.

[Alan1467]

Soooo, anyone know what went down. Looks like it was rain over the whole of the UK today so wonder if it was a washout.

Never rained in Carlisle ;)

[ashleyb4]

THAT WAS ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rain made it so fun on sunday and the quiz was awsome.

But we did have some litter bugs about not mentioning any names but i found this is one box that was dumped in the field.

Shot at 2007-07-15
But who ever chucked away that elle umbrella your a fool thats now my sisters birthday present:D

But thanks to mike for finding me the xx4 front driveshaft.

pidge won 4wd cant remeber who won 2wd.

the 4wd finals where cancelled half way through.

Thanks for everyone turning up i think its been even better than last year.

A

[losixxx]

great weekend thanks all at osfest, boily hot last year soaky wet this year wonder what 2008 holds in store for us

[footey]

do u mean 2008:)

[bigred5765]

out door racing in winter at 80-90 degrees lol blazing sun
summer what bloody summer

[Lee]

Ash

i really dont think its a great idea sticking jimmys address on the net;)

[footey]

i see tom cockerill got 9th in the a 4wd great result

[neiloliver]

During the 4WD meeting i recorded the car type for each driver whilst i was scrutineering. The numbers and % are shown below.

Losi xx: 55 (46.2%)
Jconcepts BJ4: 22 (18.5%)
Yokomo MR4-BX: 11 (9.2%)
S4: 10 (8.4%)
Predator: 6 (5.0%)
Kyosho Lazer: 5 (4.2%)
X-Factory X5: 4 (3.4%)
Hotbodies D4: 3 (2.5%)
Tamiya 501x: 2 (1.7%)
Aero: 1 (0.8%)

Total 119 (one missing from my records, but it was probably a losi!)

[IceMike]

neil y did you post that. you know now ash is goin to be bragin that he has the best car

[ashleyb4]

55 people have good taste.

A

[IceMike]

well i guess atleast those ppl have decided that a losi is for racing unlike ash who doesnt wanna dirty his

[ashleyb4]

I didnt get in!!

Tom cockerill asked if he could run my xx4 in the second leg of the A but i wasnt sure as i didnt want it falling apart on him.

A

[jimmy]

That envelope is mine ash - I am guilty.. but since it was in a massive box of rubbish about 500 times bigger in volume and weight - and considering I ate 100% off-site and didn't race, I produced barely any rubbish at all, apart from that envelope that I brought with someone elses spare parts in, :D

I know the hoards of people who actually did leave a lot of rubbish probably didn't have their name on it - but who's counting hey! :D love you man




THAT WAS ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rain made it so fun on sunday and the quiz was awsome.

But we did have some litter bugs about not mentioning any names but i found this is one box that was dumped in the field.

Shot at 2007-07-15
But who ever chucked away that elle umbrella your a fool thats now my sisters birthday present:D

But thanks to mike for finding me the xx4 front driveshaft.

pidge won 4wd cant remeber who won 2wd.

the 4wd finals where cancelled half way through.

Thanks for everyone turning up i think its been even better than last year.

A

[neiloliver]

Back to the meeting...

I hope everyone enjoyed themselves, sorry about the weather on Sunday, but it could have been a lot worse based on the forecast from Friday. I think people preffered the track for this year? that seemed to be the general feedback.

[P_B]

Credit to Oz for a well organised meeting and a consistent grass track, usual congrats to the winners/star performers :)

Saturday was one of the rare times this year I've been at a big meeting and wished I was racing. Sunday however was one of the many this year that I was glad not to be!

Anyway, loads of pics from Sat to sort through but only a handful from yesterday. Sitting/crouching in wet grass and pointing a camera at low contrast balls of mud in poor light is no fun, so a limited gallery from Sunday is already on Photobucket (http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/perapi/Oz%204WD%20Nat%2007/).

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/perapi/Oz%204WD%20Nat%2007/Oz4_09.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/perapi/Oz%204WD%20Nat%2007/Oz4_12.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/perapi/Oz%204WD%20Nat%2007/Oz4_07.jpg

2WD and random stuff to follow...

[Southwell]

During the 4WD meeting i recorded the car type for each driver whilst i was scrutineering. The numbers and % are shown below.

Losi xx: 55 (46.2%)
Jconcepts BJ4: 22 (18.5%)
Yokomo MR4-BX: 11 (9.2%)
S4: 10 (8.4%)
Predator: 6 (5.0%)
Kyosho Lazer: 5 (4.2%)
X-Factory X5: 4 (3.4%)
Hotbodies D4: 3 (2.5%)
Tamiya 501x: 2 (1.7%)
Aero: 1 (0.8%)

Total 119 (one missing from my records, but it was probably a losi!)

I ran a BX and an Academy though! :p

[trekkerkk]

has anybody got results from 2 and 4wd thanks,

trekkker

[jimmy]

1 Darren Bloomfield 8 1 1
2 Simon Moss 1 4 3
3 Tom Yardy 4 2 2
4 Ellis Stafford 2 10 7
5 Neil Cragg 6 3 6
6 Richard Barton 3 7 8
7 Stuart Wood 5 5 5
8 Phil Sleigh 7 9 4
9 Tony Truman 9 6 9
10 Matt Benfield 10 8 10

1 Lee Martin
2 Phil Sleigh
3 Darren Bloomfield
4 Chris Doughty
5 Ellis Stafford
6 Neil Cragg
7 Tom Yardy
8 Richard Taylor
9 Tom Cockerill
10 Kevin Lee

[Southwell]

So are the points awarded by finals that were run by position finished and the ones that wernt run done on qually?

[k£v!n]

The results were taken from qualifying I think!

[Southwell]

I hope not, thats not fair on the people who ran their finals!

[jimmy]

all on qualifying on sunday. Bad for pricey as he went from 10th to win his final, but it doesn't change the winner of the meeting.

[Southwell]

But why? Surely if they've been run the result should be that! I had a crap day anyway, but i just think it's unfair to do that.

[millzy]

I ran a BX and an Academy though! :p

there was more x5s there as well

I ran one, John Price did, and Damo plus the 3 Team drivers

[notlawnomis]

Due to poor weather we had the same issue at the last York regional. It was agreed that the "fairest" way was to allow any completed finals results to stand and the rest from qualifying.

[emzy]

I think its a bit unfair too... when we did our final, the meeting hadn't been abandoned and the people who didn't run did it out of choice... this also means I broke my car for nothing...!

At York the other week we used the results from the finals that had been completed, and qualifying for the ones that couldn't be run (I think??)

[Northy]

But its simple, its in the BRCA rules that if it is abandoned part way through results go on qualifying.

If you want the rule changed propose it for discusion at the AGM.

G

[millzy]

you borke you car

10quid please

[emzy]

No way!! That bet was for Bury! AND it was wishbones/shock tower!

Plus... I think it was just the receiver, so by tomorrow it'll probably be dried out and ready to go again!

[millzy]

no i said you will brake you car in the final...i didnt say what meating

so thats a 10er love

[woOdy]

RB5 made the A main again. WOW. and still with no help from Kyosho?:confused:

[notlawnomis]

But its simple, its in the BRCA rules that if it is abandoned part way through results go on qualifying.

If you want the rule changed propose it for discusion at the AGM.

G

G, How did we get around that at York 2WD??

Surely Yorks results would need amending then, or did we eventually go off qualifying??

[emzy]

no i said you will brake you car in the final...i didnt say what meating

so thats a 10er love

Whatever!!

You said it at Bury, AND you said snap a wishbone or shock tower!

Anyway... you owed me a tenner from Bury!

[jimmy]

RB5 made the A main again. WOW. and still with no help from Kyosho?:confused:


Well done mate - it was awesome to see you fighting for the lead in leg one - you were the fastest car on the track too.

[ashleyb4]

By any chance did you have wimpy because i found that to. The second i saw it i thought JIMMY!

A:D
That envelope is mine ash - I am guilty.. but since it was in a massive box of rubbish about 500 times bigger in volume and weight - and considering I ate 100% off-site and didn't race, I produced barely any rubbish at all, apart from that envelope that I brought with someone elses spare parts in, :D

I know the hoards of people who actually did leave a lot of rubbish probably didn't have their name on it - but who's counting hey! :D love you man

[jimmy]

What did you find ash? We went to wimpy on the way down and I personally collected all the rubbish and put it in the bin at the services. No 'wimpy' came to oswestry with us, that's for sure :D

[millzy]

Say fish say fish

[Southwell]

I wasn't going to bring the rubbish home, but he was driving.

[emzy]

Harsh!!

[millzy]

i went home one tent lighter, wait for bathys video to see why

[ashleyb4]

Oh must have been someone else jimmy. I found lots of good stuff in the rubbish andsome bad i found my tea i found a sealled smoked ham and cheese sandwich. Which i openned and got one out and went to put it in my mouth ( but didnt) this made craig jones almost sick. and i found a bottle of water and some skips. My mum found a ZOO magazine. And a perfectly good umberella. I was very happy that i didnt find a used condom.

If your asking why i was searching through rubbish was because we wanted to do as much recycling as possible. We didnt mind the people who put there rubbish by the bin it was the people who just left there rubbish in bags spread around the field.

In the end we almost filled the plastic recycling bin.

A

[emzy]

The umbrella was Gemma's... and its bust!

[strobe]

Did any one get a photo of the remains of my Intellect 4200's which exploded whilst charging.

[ashleyb4]

It still kept that rain off me and it made me look ultra styling.:D

A

[k£v!n]

Overall it was a great meeting, most of the people I spoke to liked the track, it was a shame about the rubbish and the rain but still was a great experience!

[OldTimer]

Did any one get a photo of the remains of my Intellect 4200's which exploded whilst charging.

And people say Lipos are not safe :rolleyes:

[Southwell]

No but i ran in and turned off the power to the charger, 2 seconds after getting back out the cells vented where my face was :o

[neiloliver]

I got about 40 minutes of video over the two days and will start editing tonight. Need to get it down to around 4.5 minutes.. give me day or two and i will get it up (the video that is)

Are you doing an arty Sepia/Black and white one Bathy?

N

[_sleigh_]

Oh must have been someone else jimmy. I found lots of good stuff in the rubbish andsome bad i found my tea i found a sealled smoked ham and cheese sandwich. Which i openned and got one out and went to put it in my mouth ( but didnt) this made craig jones almost sick. and i found a bottle of water and some skips. My mum found a ZOO magazine. And a perfectly good umberella. I was very happy that i didnt find a used condom.

If your asking why i was searching through rubbish was because we wanted to do as much recycling as possible. We didnt mind the people who put there rubbish by the bin it was the people who just left there rubbish in bags spread around the field.

In the end we almost filled the plastic recycling bin.

A

In your recycling efforts, did you by any chance find a cheque for quite a large sum of money???? I know someone who lost one???

[ashleyb4]

Oh was that yours phil!!

How much you willing to pay to get it back???????:D

Nah i aint got it and i havent seen it.

BTW you have a pm well you will in a minute.

A

[_sleigh_]

Do you know when the bins were/are getting emptied???

[k£v!n]

Phil was taking the bags of rubbish that we could not recycle to the oswestry recycling center on the industrial estate, the other bins were being taken by the council, im not sure where they are going, and some of the other rubbish the show ground were taking away.

[ashleyb4]

I think phil channon is taking the bags that where outside the bin to the local tip but the ones in bin will be emptied by a private company who empties the showground bins. Ring phil channon he will know or jeff stanton. Ill take you have there numbers if not pm me.

A

[ashleyb4]

They will proberly be emptied this morning.

BTW are you switching from your losi's????????

A

[bigred5765]

buy the way great job to all at oswestry
loved it, shame about the rain

[_sleigh_]

They will proberly be emptied this morning.

BTW are you switching from your losi's????????

A

Oh well, he'll have to get the cheque cancelled ASAP.

Losi/LRP is my current ride..... EOS....

[Chrislong]

BTW are you switching from your losi's????????

A


There are certain things you don't ask a team driver, especially in public forums. :mad: Imagien if Phil hadn't been able to respond for 2-3 hours, there's a new rumour started.

[_sleigh_]

Thanks Chris...

and I didn't tell anyone you are switching to Tyco, sponsored by Toys'R'Us.. nudge nudge.. wink wink..

[Richard Lowe]

Losi/LRP is my current ride..... EOS....
Thats a yes then :D

The track was much better the other way round for 4wd, shame the pipes were still car magnets, that and the astroturf pulling up ruined my Sunday :mad:

Smaller pipes next time please!

[ashleyb4]

Well know you meantion it phil i am i had the choice of either tamiya or tyco so i went for tyco.

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[k£v!n]

We tried to use as much as possible of the smaller piping, we had the large pipes around the edge of the track!

[millzy]

There are certain things you don't ask a team driver, especially in public forums. :mad: Imagien if Phil hadn't been able to respond for 2-3 hours, there's a new rumour started.


we have in another section

[neiloliver]

There is not a lot of love in this thread... Maybe Jimmy should delete it and we start again.. or KEEP ON TOPIC??

[ashleyb4]

There is lots of love. Im just being a nosy bugger.

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[trekkerkk]

thanks jimmy for the results,
i take it the 4wd finals eventually got rained off and the points went back to peoples qualifying position,

trekkker

[Bathy]

Bad for pricey as he went from 10th to win his final,

Only by 0.11! :rolleyes:

What's all this I hear our finals don't count from Sunday?

So I had my best final ever and finished 2nd from 6th place but might as well packed up and saved my car from this state? Who writes these rules, sort it out.

Surely any final that has run and is finished is complete, the day is done… how do other finals ahead of mine being canceled effect my final result, why the need to say its not fair on everyone else who didn’t get to race a final, I don’t get it… at all!

Phil Sleigh do I email you as drivers rep to ‘officially’ state my unhappiness at that decision? (If this is the officially decision and someone doesn’t intervene with some common sense)

What can I say, was a great weekend of racing somewhat tarnished from gay rules it seems, was working on a video not really in the right frame of mind now, stupid rules.


This is a rant, sorry for the lack of love!


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[ashleyb4]

Yea stupid rules i got a 10 seconds penalty for being taken out. 3times in a row.

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[Chrislong]

Team Hornby - they're on rails! :D

I think Oswestry team gave 120% effort, and so went 20% over-board with the blue ripples and 2x4's under the astro. Im glad the blue pipes went. The 4wd track I agree was best being the other way around.

As far as flat grass tracks go, it was better than the 2006 track.

Shame the weather wasn't in our favour.

[neiloliver]

At drivers briefing, everyone is told that if the weather gets bad, it is FINALS that will suffer. To be fair to everyone you have to scrap the whole set of finals. If you manage to move up a final and finish first that is great, but if the next guy has his final cancelled he will not get the chance to do the same, so all results have to be null and void.

We wished we could have finished the finals but we had marshalls falling over and safety comes first.

[DCM]

any pics from the weekend, if there weather was anything like I woke up to on Sunday morning on hols... boat racing would of been better....

Dave... your car is a little dirty... SHAME ON YOU!!

[jimmy]

Inexperience dave! Pricey took the smooth wide line coming onto the straight and you squared it off allowing him to get on the power sooner and even though you snook through he still took it. He said there was something slowing his car down (5kg of mud ??) toward the end of the race because he was surprised anyone was catching him! Nail biter!! haha You drove well though to catch the pricemaster

[millzy]

i loved the rain ok the cars where coverd in mud and it was bitch to clean them but the track was good in the wet i thought in fact i loved the wet better than the dry and i did almost bugger all 4wd racing.

well done to the oz wizzards they did a good job on the track

[Lee Martin]

Yea stupid rules i got a 10 seconds penalty for being taken out. 3times in a row.

A

if im not mistaken you cut out a whole corner of the track and thought it was fine to carry on coz someone took you out?????

:mad:

[Lee]

:D

No its here Pidge;)

9.0001 revb.

Those found to have been mullered will recieve a 10 second penalty in order to finish them off completely:rolleyes:

[Bathy]

At drivers briefing, everyone is told that if the weather gets bad, it is FINALS that will suffer. To be fair to everyone you have to scrap the whole set of finals. If you manage to move up a final and finish first that is great, but if the next guy has his final cancelled he will not get the chance to do the same, so all results have to be null and void.

We wished we could have finished the finals but we had marshalls falling over and safety comes first.

I was at drivers briefing both days, but my understanding was that all finals would be canceled before starting them if the weather was bad.

Having started them the ones that completed must surely stand, why would they not? They happened, the days racing was completed and results achieved, I very much doubt that anyone in a ‘higher’ final is going to be annoyed at having to have their results as they qualified, they don’t lose anything and don’t gain anything, however finals that were run now potentially lose out.

It’s a ridiculous decision, where in any sport do you ever see a final result being ‘revoked’?

I shall be proposing a new rule, bit of a shocker I sure as it will be a sensible one.

[Bathy]

Inexperience dave! Pricey took the smooth wide line coming onto the straight and you squared it off allowing him to get on the power sooner and even though you snook through he still took it. He said there was something slowing his car down (5kg of mud ??) toward the end of the race because he was surprised anyone was catching him! Nail biter!! haha You drove well though to catch the pricemaster

According to the time sheet I was running a second a lap faster every lap other than the first one, one more lap and it would have been mine! Was ace fun, my best 'moment' in racing so far, just need to buy the BRCA a dictionary so they can look up the definition of the word FINAL and it will be happy days. :D

[jimmy]

You must have had a pretty terrible first lap then! :confused:

[Bathy]

You must have had a pretty terrible first lap then! :confused:

39.51 :(

[jimmy]

Thoroughly bummed! You looked good tho, I mean your car, not you :D

[emzy]

But don't you think Bathy himself looked good too?!

I still can't believe round 2... 10 or however many laps in 316.66... both me AND Bathy. If you look at the end of round, we both got 77th for that round...!

[Gaz_Stanton]

Yea stupid rules i got a 10 seconds penalty for being taken out. 3times in a row.

A

Leave it go Ash, you've wound up enough people already this weekend! :wtf:

Have you ever considered basket weaving? I hear that's a fun hobby...

[Lee]

:D :D :D
That poor boy must feel abused:eh?:

What has he done to wind people up?:D

[DCM]

he needs to go to Sunday school with a very friendly priest... heehee....

[losixxx]

I hope not, thats not fair on the people who ran their finals!
:D :D ;)

[losixxx]

I think its a bit unfair too... when we did our final, the meeting hadn't been abandoned and the people who didn't run did it out of choice... this also means I broke my car for nothing...!

At York the other week we used the results from the finals that had been completed, and qualifying for the ones that couldn't be run (I think??)
also means i beat you AGAIN em ;), i took a gamble that finals would be called off as the rain didnt look like lifting and didnt fancy cleaning the car again.

[Bathy]

Either the BRCA need to change the rules or they should reframe from using the word ‘Final’, never heard of anything so stupid in all my life, when I got to the rostrum for my ‘final’ that’s exactly what I thought it was, not a ‘maybe final if everyone else gets a go’. My result doesn’t affect people in any other final does it? So where is it unfair? It’s unfair on anyone who bettered themselves during their final.

People who didn't get a chance to run their finals don't lose or gain anything, to revoke a final that was run and completed is wrong and is absolutely unfair.

To quote the words ‘fair for everyone’ in defense of this shambles is an insult to me and many others who completed their ‘final’, it's a joke.

Is it fair that I ran my final and got second but the poll man could have sat in his tent and during that race and now beats me, I think not.

(still ranting) :mad:

[Northy]

I very much doubt that anyone in a ‘higher’ final is going to be annoyed at having to have their results as they qualified, they don’t lose anything and don’t gain anything,

Would you call the D final a 'higher' final Bathy? If so then I was very much annoyed. I worked for an hour and a half to clean and repair my car to grid up D 9 as I knew that with not much chance of a full grid it was possible for me to make up some places. :( :( :( :(

G

[WHITTLER555]

YEAH! YEAH!

[losixxx]

Either the BRCA need to change the rules or they should reframe from using the word ‘Final’, never heard of anything so stupid in all my life, when I got to the rostrum for my ‘final’ that’s exactly what I thought it was, not a ‘maybe final if everyone else gets a go’. My result doesn’t affect people in any other final does it? So where is it unfair? It’s unfair on anyone who bettered themselves during their final.

People who didn't get a chance to run their finals don't lose or gain anything, to revoke a final that was run and completed is wrong and is absolutely unfair.

To quote the words ‘fair for everyone’ in defense of this shambles is an insult to me and many others who completed their ‘final’, it's a joke.

Is it fair that I ran my final and got second but the poll man could have sat in his tent and during that race and now beats me, I think not.

(still ranting) :mad:

not really dave, you know the rules before you race there available on brca site, everyone has the option to take a gamble not to race, i know in this instance i profited but same thing happened at southport a few years back and i didnt that time, im just supprised they ran so many finals before it was cancelled to be honest

[Stu]

..... Who writes these rules, sort it out.


It's drivers as BRCA members that write the rules, at the AGM. It's the place for discussion on this, and maybe a rule change if that is what is decided.

Remember that the BRCA is all the drivers as a collective - the comitee just use the rules that the BRCA vote for.

(What is the collective noun for a group of RC drivers?)

Personally I did 8th to 3rd in my final, so I lost out, but it's just the way the cookie crumbles.

[Northy]

Exactley what I said earlier Stu, the place to sort this is the AGM, but not many racers can actually be arsed to go :(

G

[Stu]

I'm gonna start a new thread - cos this one has gone poo.

[Bathy]

Would you call the D final a 'higher' final Bathy? If so then I was very much annoyed. I worked for an hour and a half to clean and repair my car to grid up D 9 as I knew that with not much chance of a full grid it was possible for me to make up some places. :( :( :( :(

G

Yes much higher, I can see that you could be annoyed at not getting the chance to improve your overall result but the weather can't be helped and you didn't lose any places did you?

The point I'm making is that finals that have been run don't affect where you (for example) finish overall do they? Anyone in a higher final at worst lose out on an 'opportunity' to do better, but again surely a final that has run and finished can stand as a result.

Why would the BRCA wish to revoke the result, we are here to race not gamble on the weather, a race which has been completed should stand as a result ‘final’.

Would you be annoyed if a final below you (people with a lower score on the day) was allowed to stand as a completed result, I see no reason why you would do really, but let me know if I'm missing something here?

[emzy]

also means i beat you AGAIN em ;), i took a gamble that finals would be called off as the rain didnt look like lifting and didnt fancy cleaning the car again.

Funny how the only times you beat me, you don't actually literally beat me... its always by default...! :p

[Northy]

So then Bathy, who decides who has the oppertunity to improve thier result (race thier final) and who doesn't (doesn't race thier final)? I would have been very hard pressed to not have inproved as I know 1 person was not going to race the D final anyway.

G

[losixxx]

Funny how the only times you beat me, you don't actually literally beat me... its always by default...! :p
what ever:D

[Bathy]

So then Bathy, who decides who has the oppertunity to improve thier result (race thier final) and who doesn't (doesn't race thier final)?

G

Ummm god!

Down to the weather isn't it!

Keep in mind that I think you'd be more annoyed had you run your final and improved but had your race result revoked... trust me that's unfair.

If you read back to what I’m saying you’ll see that the point I am making is that at the moment the rules is leaning towards those racers who didn't get a chance to improve. I say that is unfair on people who have been able to run their final, the rule in my opinion should be adjusted to consider the fact that once a final has been completed it should stand as a result.

I still see no good reason why a completed final cannot stand as a result, no one is posting a good reason why they shouldn’t? Which again highlights the rule currently sucks.

[bert digler]

Ummm god!

Down to the weather isn't it!

Keep in mind that I think you'd be more annoyed had you run your final and improved but had your race result revoked... trust me that's unfair.

If you read back to what I’m saying you’ll see that the point I am making is that at the moment the rules is leaning towards those racers who didn't get a chance to improve. I say that is unfair on people who have been able to run their final, the rule in my opinion should be adjusted to consider the fact that once a final has been completed it should stand as a result.

I still see no good reason why a completed final cannot stand as a result, no one is posting a good reason why they shouldn’t? Which again highlights the rule currently sucks.
why wasnt it stopped after round 2 its was unsafe to marshall after all thats where the problems lies if your car blows up its tough but if some gets injured or worse it could become a legal issue which aint good for any of us:rolleyes:

[jimmy]

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[WHITTLER555]

Thanks for the title pic of your report Jimmy!!

I almost feel famous:D

[P_B]

Top work all round, Jimmy. Ace pics in some really poor Sunday conditions, puts the rest of us to shame. Great write-up too, this weekend was the first time I've seen the report building process and it seems a lot of work for (relatively) little thanks.

[woOdy]

Top work all round, Jimmy. Ace pics in some really poor Sunday conditions, puts the rest of us to shame. Great write-up too, this weekend was the first time I've seen the report building process and it seems a lot of work for (relatively) little thanks.


How can you say that Pete? I thank him every sunday night when I am called Sara. lol:D

[MattW]

Guys, the rules dictate what the committee "have" to do when these isues arrise. Doesn't make it right, i know.

Must admit, i did say to Si as we were clearing up that i did feel just a little sorry for those that had gone out and risked their kit only for it to be worthless.

My personal view is that i can't see any good reason not to count the finals that have been run. All it really needs i would think is for it to be proposed and seconded for the agm and you never know!!!

Qualifying rounds are a different matter, if a round is canceled during then the whole round should be scrubbed.

Fair play to the club, think the track was better than last year. A little "slow" overall for my own personal taste, but that's just me.

Good work on the early posting of the report Jimmy.:)

[bigred5765]

Thanks for the title pic of your report Jimmy!!

I almost feel famous:D

But damo you are famous







MR F1
hehehehehe

[emzy]

why wasnt it stopped after round 2 its was unsafe to marshall after all thats where the problems lies if your car blows up its tough but if some gets injured or worse it could become a legal issue which aint good for any of us:rolleyes:

After round 2?! Let's face it, I have the balance and coordination of a drunken pineapple, so I'm probably one of more / most likely to fall over in slippy conditions (I fell over at Kidderminster BEFORE the rain) and well... I managed to stay on my feet during all of Sunday... I don't really think it was so unsafe that it warranted the meeting be abandoned there and then!

[ashleyb4]

if im not mistaken you cut out a whole corner of the track and thought it was fine to carry on coz someone took you out?????

:mad:

I waited for the car that took me out its because i went infront of him instead of behind him.

A

[Southwell]

After round 2?! Let's face it, I have the balance and coordination of a drunken pineapple, so I'm probably one of more / most likely to fall over in slippy conditions (I fell over at Kidderminster BEFORE the rain) and well... I managed to stay on my feet during all of Sunday... I don't really think it was so unsafe that it warranted the meeting be abandoned there and then!
As soon as Rothers' fell over i think that was an indication it should have been abandoned, loads of people were sliding about when getting the cars.

[k£v!n]

While I was taking the pipe up after the race finished, I lost count of the number of times i slid and almost fell over, it was the right decision in the end!

[ashleyb4]

I think there was a few people falling over jamie banks fell over in the last final so i think phil just said enough is enough.

And i wont moan about my 10 second penaty any more.

A

[millzy]

Have you ever heard of Wales, and if so do you prefer England or Wales?
Yes I have, although I haven't had the chance to sample and compare the two countries. (Chris Long later explained to Paul that Wales would be alright if it wasn't for the Welsh).



your going to die long!!!

[Bathy]

I got about 40 minutes of video over the two days and will start editing tonight. Need to get it down to around 4.5 minutes.. give me day or two and i will get it up (the video that is)

Are you doing an arty Sepia/Black and white one Bathy?

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Hi Neil, video is now live! (oOple - photos, Oz Nat)

Let me know when yours is done, hoping I will see my car in action in yours!

[jimmy]

sorry I added it about 3am this morning and forgot to mention it! hehe.. yeah Bathys video is now added to the report - I'll add Neils if he likes too, either as a download link or youtube type thing, whatevers good.

[millzy]

cant wait to see this bathy

[Wraggy]

for anyone who is interested ?
Barcelona was glorious sunshine all weekend !! lol :D :D :D
nice suntan to ...:p
31.5 deg at 11.30 in the morning ...:cool: :cool: :cool:

[Kopite]

for anyone who is interested ?
Barcelona was glorious sunshine all weekend !! lol :D :D :D
nice suntan to ...:p
31.5 deg at 11.30 in the morning ...:cool: :cool: :cool:


sorry, and you are?

[Southwell]

sorry, and you are?

He's Wraggy! :rolleyes: do you know nothing?!

[Wraggy]

sorry, and you are?

ha ha Stan your so funny !!!!! :D .

not..

[bigred5765]

awsome job on the vid,musics ok as well
try this place for a new tent (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tentastic)millzy we got ours from there great products and dirt cheap

[_sleigh_]

Has anyone seen any results for Oswestry?? They don't appear to be on BRCA.org or onetenthoffroad.co.uk yet......

[trekkerkk]

there on the brca site,if you click on the 1/10 off road section,

trekkker

[Gaz_Stanton]

i tried before and the 2wd was on the 4wd link and the 2wd link didn't work... :wtf:

[_sleigh_]

Cheers... seems to work now. Just need the Overall's now..................

[stuartw]

Has anyone seen any results for Oswestry?? They don't appear to be on BRCA.org or onetenthoffroad.co.uk yet......

Yes they are (now).;)

[Southwell]

just change the current overalls link to 'oswestry' ;)