What difference does altering camber link and camber height positions have ??

[Colinevan]

This weekend im not going to run my 2wd and i want to try and experiment as much with setting my trf up.

I will be honest and say i dont know how to set a car up, i realise basic things like softening suspension up can help with steering matters but i would like more in depth knowledge:D.

Starting with my experiences with the trf, i have settled with blue losi springs on the front - this took away some of the snatchiness ( esp on tarmac) and generally made the car a little less aggressive - rear springs are std. The problem that i have is that the rear shocks are a little slow to respond and can make the car roll quite easily esp @ southport coming over the bridge and banking to the left. This when i watch other cars going over the same section following the lines that i do, it appears that mine is slower over this section and yet still will run the risk of flipping if not taken very slowly / gently:wtf:

I have also experimented with the one way, personally i find it very aggressive - esp with new tyres. I struggled last week as i was running a snatchy 4wd and an understeering 2wd rb5 ) the rb5 will be sorted another time :p lol.

Im going to start with Jimi's posted setup for the trf. The main things i have noticed are that the camber mount spacers are not there, Currently i have built them in as per manual. What differences do camber mount spaces have??

Also the camber link positions, mine are built as per kit and make the camber links as long as possible (front), what difference does it make by bringing them in as opposed to bringing them out.

As per the setup sheet, the front on mine have the links on the inside hole where as Jimi's are on the middle hole.

The rear on comparison with mine are on the middle hole whereas they are on the inside with Jimi's. Again Jimi's car has no camber mount spacers whereas mine has both fitted. What difference does camber spacers make @ the rear of a car.

I really would appreciate anyones opinions with setups as unfortunately i dont have time to experiment. Im lucky if i can get one day off a week :(and thats to go racing:D. Good job the Mrs is easy going lol.

I made the choice to try and run 2wd and 4wd in one days racing but find i have no time to experiment with setups and as such i have to live with what i have:rolleyes:.

Feeble exscuse over.

Col.:cool:

[Colinevan]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/review501x/501xyorksetup.gif

The setup in question :cool:

[sosidge]

Best advice is to have a good read of elvo's guide - best free setup guide there is - http://home.scarlet.be/~be067749/58/

Iin brief, with camber links, shorter/more angled reduces roll and removes grip, longer/less angled allows more roll and increases grip. But setup is a lot more subtle than that.

[elvo]

Here's the new link: http://users.pandora.be/elvo


That verion is at least 5 years old.

[Chrislong]

Hi Colin,
Your not going to pick up the knowledge by reading any sort of advice, honestly, you need to get used to having a play around with setups and what difference they make....

1) go and find a good 'base' setup, your best source is likely to be Stu Wood for both your RB5 and TRF. Keep these written down, copy them EXACTLY and get used to driving them.

2) change small things, one thing at a time, and make a note of what the difference was. Its hand to take a sheet of paper and a pen, write down what you change, how it felt and the effect on your fastest lap and your finishing time after the race (also comparisons against what the times set by people you normally race with, and the FTQ guy). Some changes may mean you can do a single lap faster than before, but can't improve on the race time as it is harder to keep on its wheels.

3) develop that base setup to suit you. It should be a setup which is well balanced, safe, and gives you confidence to take to any track and then make changes to suit.

Doing this, or having this in mind, and you'll soon start to pick it up. There is no book which will help.... I mean, you don't see Mick Cragg asking "What do I do if I have understeer, where did I put the book?" the stuff we do is all stuff in our own heads. What I may do to solve understeer may be different to what somebody else may do, but each method may be correct, just different ways to solve the issue.

4) Don't forget things & don't listen to TOO MUCH of what you are told. As what one person says may do something, somebody else may say it does somethign else.... so learn for yourself.

Chris

[MK999]

"What makes a car handle?", "What is weight transfer?", "How do I adjust camber?", "Which way is left?", "What is a roll center?",... You can find the answers to all those questions right here... classic :D