Suggestions for the Mini Rules for September

[Dave Dodd]

As Title.
We would like all your suggestions on this topic so we can make a list of rules that will be okay for everyone in time for the next winter series 2010/11

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[chris brown]

NO !

[dave-p]

keep to the mini cup rules if you want rules, if you don't have a fun open class.

[Dave Dodd]

we do have rules currently in place, but there does seem to be some disputes as to what should be there and what shouldnt....

[reg]

i can hear pats fingers warming up :p

[pat*1]

i can hear pats fingers warming up :p
I didnt think they ever had any rules for the mini's...:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot ::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::thumbsup:

[Aran]

i reckon the only rule should be that the italian job theme tune should be played though out the race.

what goes through my mind anyway :/

[Dave Dodd]

i reckon the only rule should be that the italian job theme tune should be played though out the race.

what goes through my mind anyway :/

nice one i like it..:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

just need a rc 6 wheeled bus/car transporter and some miniture steps :lol:

[antnee]

Can I do the driving onto the bus, as im the jump specialist?

[wes j.]

Surely you should be blowing the BLOODY DOORS OFF mate.:p:thumbsup:

[Robbiejuk]

nice one i like it..:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

just need a rc 6 wheeled bus/car transporter and some miniture steps :lol:

Just get a bus bodyshell for one of these..

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=35350

[antnee]

Im surprised Rob B hasn't got a 6wheeler yet, maybe they don't sell them in Asia

[Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd]

I think the mini rules should be as following;

off-road tyres
any brushless motor
lipos
big shocks
swap mini shells for buggy shells
use the jumps

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[chris brown]

Here are my two pence worth.
any mini sized rubber tyres.
tamiya black can or 27t brushed/13.5 brushless.
any hop up.
any mini sized shell
no ball diffs. Gear diffs only.
Pro and R variations allowed.
2wd only
All must bow to my mini driving skills

[Dave Dodd]

All must bow to my mini driving skills

SHOW OFF :lol:

[chris brown]

Maybe ansmann and hpi 20t sealed can motors too.
These are very similar to tamiya black cans.

[Chris56]

Maybe ansmann and hpi 20t sealed can motors too.
These are very similar to tamiya black cans.

After my session at Ardant today, how about:
13.5t brushless systems only:woot:
Only 1 set of tyres per series :p:p:p

[Dave Dodd]

After my session at Ardant today, how about:
13.5t brushless systems only:woot:
Only 1 set of tyres per series :p:p:p

I dont think 1 set of ansmann's would last a series :lol: as some struggle to last 1 night :lol::thumbdown:

[Chris56]

I dont think 1 set of ansmann's would last a series :lol: as some struggle to last 1 night :lol::thumbdown:

But they could race the final round to the Bolero! :thumbsup:

[chris brown]

Quite a few lads from the notts area raced minis at Ardents fri night club meet. There were different motor and tyre set ups but all seemed relatively close. Lots of us have noticed that motors dont seem to make a massive differnce in the mini. Overpower it and it just becomes useless, spinning its wheels, unable to put power down. Not all hop ups seem to make a difference either and most have found at w.b. that the friction shocks work better over oil filled ones.
A lot of debate in the pst about mini rules has been bounced about. Should it be an entry class? Is it a budget class?
There are very few newbies in minis as most newbies seem to come with touring cars. Its not a budget class either as prices have soared. Ok, it may be budget compared to a new xray tourer or top end buggy but not many people have those either or have got them second hand anyway.

I would like to think that the rules shouldnt taint the mini race class as I feel that they a little have in the past. Rules were set before but not then enforced anyway so people were left to moan which is fair enough I suppose but what is the point in having rules if they are not enforced and I'm not talking about the rc mini police here either, just monitor it.

Lets get some realistic rules that keep the class fun.
We never have this rule problem with any other class of racing.

My ideas (turning out to be a long post init?)

any mini chassis. m01,02,03,04,05.
any mini sized wheel and tyres.
any shocks and springs.
geared kit diffs.
27t or 13.5brushless. hpi/ansmann 15 or 20t?(only £7.50).
Black or silver can tamiya motor.
any mini sized bodyshell.

right ho, chris. Just shut up and eat your easter egg. Right ho.

[Chris56]

Hi Chris, how was Ardent on friday night?
I am pretty new to racing, especially racing M-chassis cars, and certainly don't want to tread on anybody's toes or come across as a "know it all", but here are my views on Minis:

1) Good car for both beginers and professionals as they are a forgiving car to drive, but a hard one to drive well, particularly with faster motors. The fact that Tamiya have been selling M03s for so long and there is still split opinion as to whether the M05 is an improvement speaks volume. How can you improve on perfection?

2) They can't handle fast motors as theit is impossible the power down. After several hours at Ardent, I have got mine to work well with a 13.5T brushless, but that is with the timing and acceleration set to a minimum. It probably isn't any faster than if it had the tamiya black can motor. If fast motors were allowed I think most drivers will still use stock motors since the minis work best with them.

3) Oil shocks - they clearly make a difference in touring cars (I remember how much my TT01 bounced around corners with the friction dampers). Do they make enough difference in minis to make the race less fair/fun?


As I have already said, I am no expert on the minis in any way and I have formed these opinions through 8 hours of track practice at Ardent and through talking to other club members. I hope to race my M05 on friday (sorry Charlie, i promise to keep out you way!!!!).

I do like Lloyd's idea of using the jumps.

See you all next friday

[chris brown]

So, what are the rules then?
We areback indoors in what, 6 weeks?

[reg]

i think there should be a weight limit,so the young kids that only have cell stick packs dont loose out to the lipo,dont say they dont make a difference because they do,you have to leave your race wheels and tyres at the club and they must last a months(or what ever) racing,you get one free change if you damage a wheel and cant continue,after that you have 10 sec penalty added to your fastes time on the night,this way it puts a cap on people running new evey week against people who cant,the car i think should be open to let you put what ever you want on it,i say this because you can buy a realy good second hand pimped up mini for the same as a brand new std one,so its not out the question for a kid with a paper round to come to the club with a realy good set up and be on the pace having spent the same as he would on a std kit,
so there:p

[Chris56]

you get one free change if you damage a wheel and cant continue,after that you have 10 sec penalty added to your fastes time on the night

I had the mini out this afternoon testing it and a wheel randomly broke off and bounced over a neigbour's hedge into their garden. Im now scared to go and get it as the house is owned by the cast of Shameless.
Should really stick to buggies.

Chris, the rules have been updated on the website. Pretty much an open class (any motor, shocks,tyres) so long as it is a 2wd Tamiya M-chassis

[Aran]

i fancy a mini, not bad price wise too!

shall see when september comes

[chris brown]

Ah, thanks Chris, I hadnt seen that on the website. Must have changed since I last looked.
Sorted then.

[Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd]

I expect Martin-pillowhead-Reid will turn up with a 3.5 and a body shell with 'egg fried rice and lemon chicken' on it then.

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[deepdale11]

I had the mini out this afternoon testing it and a wheel randomly broke off and bounced over a neigbour's hedge into their garden. Im now scared to go and get it as the house is owned by the cast of Shameless.
Should really stick to buggies.

Chris, the rules have been updated on the website. Pretty much an open class (any motor, shocks,tyres) so long as it is a 2wd Tamiya M-chassis

lol...go on knock on next doors door and ask for your toy car wheel back:woot: I'm sure they will give it back to you:cry: I have said to you before dont bash your cars around in the garden.....always ends in disaster!!

[The Doctor]

Mini rules for next indoor series are agreed as follows. These will all be communicated soon on website, via the Newsletter and on here.


any Tamiya 2WD M-chassis with max of 180mm total width
details are:

CHASSIS: any Tamiya M chassis. (M-01 to M05, standard, R, Pro etc, all OK)
WIDTH: maximum 180mm (presumably the outer extremes of the body, chassis or tyres)
BODY SHELL: any
WHEELS: any
TYRES: any (foam or rubber)
DAMPERS: any (including oil filled)
SHOCK SPRINGS: any
SPEED CONTROLLER: any
BATTERIES: any (within current rules -lol)
MOTOR: any
DRIVE: 2wd only, either front or rear wheel drive
GEARBOX: any
DIFFERENTIAL: any
UPGRADES: any (eg alloy bits)

[chris brown]

I'm bored.