Virgin Racing = Team Shambles!

[antnee]

They have built their car with a fuel tank which can't hold enough juice to get them to the end of the race! :lol:

They are having to make new chassis to accomidate the tank which then have to be passed by the FIA with crash tests and stuff. I bet some one might be getting a very stern tel ling off!

[c0sie]

Heard that on Radio 1 lol.

Apparently Jake Humphries is gonna try and find out how that cock up happened :)

Just hope it isnt as boring as Bahrain. Jake said on the Moyles show that Eddie Jordan fell asleep about 20 minutes in lol

[MatJohnson]

Good job they didn't design there machine on just a pc isn't it really :)

[bodgit]

I read that this morning too. They would be 13 litres short of a full race load on some tracks. How can someone design a highly thought out thing like an F1 car with all the aerodynamics, loadings etc and not work out the mpg.
Isnt it a rule now that they must also have 1 litre left in the tank after finishing for fuel tests.
http://msn.planetf1.com/news/18227/6054746/Virgin-reveal-fuel-tank-is-too-small

[antnee]

Yeah they need 1L left in the tank, but you could just rig up a cut-off so the engine would shut down when there is 1L left in the tank

[j.m.]

Yeah, let's have a car on the final leg going down straight approaching 200mph and then shut it's engine off.

[ApexSpeed]

Yeah, let's have a car on the final leg going down straight approaching 200mph and then shut it's engine off.

You mean, like when a car runs out of fuel? :rolleyes:

[bodgit]

You mean, like when a car runs out of fuel? :rolleyes:
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[ApexSpeed]

They have built their car with a fuel tank which can't hold enough juice to get them to the end of the race! :lol:

There is also a lot of talk that RedBull is suffering the same problems, too, and it is speculated that it is why Seb slowed so drastically in Bahrain (and not a fouled spark plug, as they claim).


Love listening to Murray Walker on those old F1 broadcasts. Thanks for those vids. :thumbsup:

[cjm_2008]

Yeah they need 1L left in the tank, but you could just rig up a cut-off so the engine would shut down when there is 1L left in the tank

oddly enough there's an identical rule in karting. it's to do with contingency - in karting we often have to run several formation laps if a runner is out of position on the grid (rolling starts!).

the dude responsible for this VR mess has probably already been sacked. that mistake is going to cost silly money to fix.

[Garry]

Nick Wirth explained it in qually this morning:

- monocoque had to be signed off design-wise in June
- Cosworth supplied facts and figures for fuel consumption at the time, so car designed with small margin of error in MPG/tank capacity.
- fuel density regs changed at Brazil 09, moving the goalposts
- most other teams have bigger margin of error so are unaffected
- Wirth believes that ''at least one other team has the same problem but its not come out yet''.

They are going to redesign the car and introduce a VR01 Spec B at Barcelona, with bigger tank and other step ups in performance.

[pat*1]

Cant they just brim the tank and then carry a jerry can in the boot..:woot:

[Garry]

Naa, 1/8th Rallycross trick of having 3 miles of fuel lines :D

Or replace Glock and Di Grassi with Jockeys :thumbsup:

[ApexSpeed]

Or replace Glock and Di Grassi with Jockeys :thumbsup:

I thought Glock and Di Grassi WERE already jockeys.

[antnee]

Yeah, let's have a car on the final leg going down straight approaching 200mph and then shut it's engine off.

Well maybe not so harsh as to just cut out, but have a system which throws it into a 'limp mode' to enable the driver to safely park the car up with brakes and steering still acting in their normal way

[SlowOne]

What must it have been like at the fuel tank supplier...?

"Fred, here's the Virgin Racing tank drawings, get 'em a quote."

Some time later...

"Fred, why are we giving VR a discount?"
"No discount, boss, that's the price for a 170 litre tank."
"170 litres? They couldn't have... they haven't... they have!!"

Scene ends with sounds of laughter and people rolling on the floor...

Well, what would you have done? (*snigger*) :lol:

[pat*1]

Looks like they have sorted there fuel problem out,they are going home with a fair bit in their tanks now....:woot:

[Chris56]

Looks like they have sorted there fuel problem out,they are going home with a fair bit in their tanks now....:woot:

After all, a virgin "won't go all the way":p

[bodgit]

Problem solved. Switching to diesel, better mpg= less fuel required =less wieght=faster car.:thumbsup:

[Titch]

Problem solved. Switching to diesel, better mpg= less fuel required =less wieght=faster car.:thumbsup:
or go back to the Turbo era..

[dodgydiy]

definately go back to the turbo era, formula one was actually good to watch then!

[Big G]

Well maybe not so harsh as to just cut out, but have a system which throws it into a 'limp mode' to enable the driver to safely park the car up with brakes and steering still acting in their normal way

I might be wrong, but I don't think F1 cars have PAS so their steering isn't going to go hard when the engine cuts :D

[mdb_75]

Vettel was complaining about his power steering during practice so they must have some form of it.

[Titch]

Vettel was complaining about his power steering during practice so they must have some form of it.
Thats his 3rd race ruined then :lol: watch his hydraulics blow up tomorrow.

[mdb_75]

Thats his 3rd race ruined then :lol: watch his hydraulics blow up tomorrow.

Hopefully! :thumbsup:

:lol: