new Academy 2WD

[jimmy]

A nice champ from Korea emailed me today with some photos of a possible new 2WD from Academy - the car looks pretty right in the cad drawings, I guess it depends how they put it into production now.


http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/academynewbuggy-1b.jpg (http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/academynewbuggy-1b.jpg)

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/academynewbuggy-2.jpg

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/academynewbuggy-5.jpg

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/academynewbuggy-4.jpg

[xx4-nutter]

that dont look too bad, it has to be better than that griffen pro thing they did .... :D

Garry D.

[ryan]

That looks pretty good, Looks like a B4 rear end with a Losi Cr front.

[Chris Doughty]

I like the scuptured chassis underside

[Northy]

That looks pretty good, Looks like a B4 rear end with a Losi Cr front.

The worst parts of both cars!! :o :o :o :o

G

[ryan]

The worst parts of both cars!! :o :o :o :o

G

thats is true lol

[dave g]

the guy who designed the sb sport is the guy who designs the mugen cars(if you ever had a academy trade catologue you would be amazed :) ),but obviously the griffin was way before his time as that came out in 97 originally.

wonder if its the same guy who has done this.

dave

[Borat]

Wa wa wee wa! I like!

[NeilD]

What car do you run Borat?

[Borat]

What car do you run Borat?

I race a car that have a chassis of a wood and a shoe box for a shell. I use the gypsy tears in the shocks made of coal. It, how you say? Handle like a piece of potato!

[BenG]

I race a car that have a chassis of a wood and a shoe box for a shell. I use the gypsy tears in the shocks made of coal. It, how you say? Handle like a piece of potato!

wtf?

You should try my Custom B4 mate, it handles like how-you-say, big-market-worth-of-potatoes :rolleyes::o:D;)

[antnee]

that korean guy has serious skill on cad!, i couldnt even do a washer! any ideas on price?

[jimmy]

Afraid it's still on the CAD at the moment so it'll be a while before we even know if it will be made or not.. but the cad looks good so I hope so.

here is a new conversion from ART - Academy Racing Technologies, for the SBv2.

http://teamartracing.com/images/news/teamart01.jpg

[Lee Martin]

wtf?

You should try my Custom B4 mate, it handles like how-you-say, big-market-worth-of-potatoes :rolleyes::o:D;)


it handles like a potato???

or a limo?:D

[dave g]

a limo full of potatoes :)

[ryan]

A stretched potato? lol

[Davey G]

the guy who designed the sb sport is the guy who designs the mugen cars(if you ever had a academy trade catologue you would be amazed :) ),but obviously the griffin was way before his time as that came out in 97 originally.

wonder if its the same guy who has done this.

dave

Definitly not the same guy as the griffin. This car was mainly designed in the four walls of MRC, then we sent the prototype to ACADEMY they made a few changes and will be produced shortly.

[DCM]

any idea on Pricing Mr Graboski?

[Davey G]

Here in the US, street price will be a minimum of $25.00- less then a team associated factory team B4.

[josh_smaxx]

Its just a copy of the B4 at the back :eh?: surely thay need permission from AE to produce something that similar :confused:

[Chrislong]

Its just a copy of the B4 at the back :eh?: surely thay need permission from AE to produce something that similar :confused:

I wouldn't fret, the biggest difference is the amount of confidence we have in AE products working. With past qualities, Academy have a lot of prooving to do with anything new, i.e. the first SB & Griffin, I know these are now old cars but unfortunately bad reputations stick very easily.

Not intending the above to sound harsh, just my 2p worth.

[annie_himself]

Its just a copy of the B4 at the back :eh?: surely thay need permission from AE to produce something that similar :confused:
What's it supposed to look like? :eh?::wtf:

[josh_smaxx]

What's it supposed to look like? :eh?::wtf:

Not up to me im not part of the academy design team but i know if i was i wouldnt copy an existing car even if it was the best 2wd car our.

Anyway, not getting into an argument, was just my opinion.

[annie_himself]

Either way it goes, some one (not saying you) will come along and say its a "xxx" copy. The worst of both cars. I'm still gonna buy one though.

[Davey G]

Its just a copy of the B4 at the back :eh?: surely thay need permission from AE to produce something that similar :confused:

WHAT???? It uses the tranny from the ACADEMY Griffin buggy, with a few minor changes. The tranny is keyed into the bottom plate of the chassis, the rear hinge pin blocks are aluminum with plastic balls snapped into them. CVA rear axles not CVD's. Long and short rear arms, can use almost any popular racing rear rim on the market. So I guess your right... its a copy. :eh?:

[lazerboy]

um.... cva and cvd are the same thing.

[Chris Doughty]

seriously LazerBoy, you do know a lot about things don't you? :o

[ashleyb4]

No there not.

A

[lazerboy]

CVA: constant velocity axle
CVD: constant velocity drive

(same thing, but cvd's are from mip. They may not be EXACTLY the same, but they work the same way)

[ashleyb4]

whats the diffrence then???

A

[Davey G]

CVD's tend to straighten out under acceleration forcing the suspension down which in turn give more exiting traction.

CVA's act more like a dogbone allowing the suspension to continue to compress under acceleration. Gives more overall steering.

[Davey G]

New Drawings

[ashleyb4]

I knew that lol i was just wondering if laxerboy did.

A:D

[DCM]

Dave, you don't fill me with hope saying the transmission is based on the one in the Griffin..... saying that, just getting tolerances tighter and the layshaft not to wobble would be a good thing.... and make sure they use a decent material for the slipper, or better still, just copy a B4 slipper.

[lazerboy]

not really, they are just from different companies. losi and ae can't use the term cvd because mip ownes it(i checked) so if a kit has that type of axle, they just call it a cva. You can tell because they all look the same.

Mip cvd:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/m/mipc1525.jpg

Cva:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc9026.jpg

And some new kits are starting to downgrade. they actually use the not-as-smooth universal joint.

uvj:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc1510.jpg

[Chris Doughty]

CVA: constant velocity axle
CVD: constant velocity drive

(same thing, but cvd's are from mip. They may not be EXACTLY the same, but they work the same way)

one of them the cup is on the axle, the other the cup is on the bone.

the fact that they are different in that sense will mean that they will drive different.

I am sorry lazerboy but you don't even own an electric car, you are giving advise on brushless gearings on a chassis you don't even know the internal ratio (or even the car) and now you are giving critique on some CAD drawings. :rolleyes:

[Davey G]

Dave, you don't fill me with hope saying the transmission is based on the one in the Griffin..... saying that, just getting tolerances tighter and the layshaft not to wobble would be a good thing.... and make sure they use a decent material for the slipper, or better still, just copy a B4 slipper.

Sorry, the casing is the same, thats about it. :) Everything else has been fixed, dual padded slipper with keyed spur gear, etc. You think I should copy the slipper, but we already copied the entire rear end of the B4, dont want to get in trouble with AE, right josh_smaxx??? :P

[Davey G]

not really, they are just from different companies. losi and ae can't use the term cvd because mip ownes it(i checked) so if a kit has that type of axle, they just call it a cva. You can tell because they all look the same.

Mip cvd:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/m/mipc1525.jpg

Cva:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc9026.jpg

And some new kits are starting to downgrade. they actually use the not-as-smooth universal joint.

uvj:http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc1510.jpg

Starting to downgrade? WOW!!!

Ever think maybe this so called "DOWNGRADE" is for handling purposes. Hence why I said the dogbone/universal type style gives more rotation/steering in the middle to exit of a turn.??

I am trying to come on here and push new product and educate people who are interested in our new project. I appreciate the questions but I dont understand the antagonizing.

[DCM]

Sorry, the casing is the same, thats about it. :) Everything else has been fixed, dual padded slipper with keyed spur gear, etc. You think I should copy the slipper, but we already copied the entire rear end of the B4, dont want to get in trouble with AE, right josh_smaxx??? :P

If it works, copy it, why not, all touring cars are similar.

The issue with the Griffin box was the fit and finish, there was a lot of work that went into getting my gearbox reliable, even as far as going back to the geared diff.

Here's hoping Dave

[lazerboy]

not trying to be mean to you, it's just these other two punks who keep following me around and criticizing me because i'm a new guy. And i really like the sb pro(and it's price:D)

[josh_smaxx]

I dont mind it being a copy, if it works as well as the B4 and cheaper then im all for it, gets more people into the hobby for cheaper :)

[Col]

not trying to be mean to you, it's just these other two punks who keep following me around and criticizing me because i'm a new guy. And i really like the sb pro(and it's price:D)

You really need to get your facts straight!
if punk = Chris Doughty, sponsored by LRP, Team Associated, Atomic carbon, Proline, CML, MK Racing, etc then I would like to be a punk.
No-one is folowing you round and criticizing you because you're new (this is probably the most newbie friendly forum ever!)it's because you seem to have an incorrect opinion on every subject.

Back on topic - After years of 2WD dominance by AE and Losi, good competition is a welcome addition. The mistakes that Kyosho have made need to be learnt from though, if the car is to be a major seller in the UK

[dave p hall]

has a look of a rb5 to me:wtf:

[Davey G]

has a look of a rb5 to me:wtf:

Thanks for stirring the pot. But even I would have to agree, it does look a bit like an RB5. :confused:

I will have the prototype vehicle hear in the office this week. Should I post pics??? Hmmmmmmmm :wtf:

[jimmy]

yes please! :)

There should be some guys running the Academy cars here over winter as helger seem to be pushing it now.

[Davey G]

yes please! :)

There should be some guys running the Academy cars here over winter as helger seem to be pushing it now.

We have heard the same thing, thats a great thing for everyone!

[DCM]

Thanks for stirring the pot. But even I would have to agree, it does look a bit like an RB5. :confused:

I will have the prototype vehicle hear in the office this week. Should I post pics??? Hmmmmmmmm :wtf:

Get a slap if you dont!!!! heehee

[Davey G]

Well I had a nice little surprise walking into work this morning after a day of R&D at the local track yesterday, our 2 GV2 Pro buggy samples have arrived. Here are some of the unique features that were incorprated into this vehicle.

-The front bulkhead and shock tower are keyed. Keyed is not a good word for this, its more like the front bulkhead gets hugged by almost the entire front shock tower then gets screwed together. Very very sturdy.
- The front hingepin block is keyed into both the uppbulkhead and also the lower bulkhead and then all gets screwed together
- Front Hingepin block has replaceable teflon sleeves
- Rack or traditional style bellcrank is offered.

I am dabbling with the rear end as we speak, will post more news about this time tomorrow.

[DCM]

PICTURES man... PICTURES!!!!

[Davey G]

The rear of the car has some pretty unique features as well:

- Aluminum hingepin blocks have plastic balls that snap into them so that there is not excess force applied to the aluminum when changing antisquat/toe-in

- Steel outdrives with large diff rings that go to the very edge of the inside race of the diff gear. This makes for a longer lasting diff by dissapating heatfaster, and also increases surface area which means less wear on the diff balls.

-Gear cover that is virtally air tight, there is a lip around the entire black molded plastic diff cover that wraps around the aluminum motor plate. No more lost gear cover plugs on this car, the gear cover plug is actually tethered to the gear cover.

-Chunky CVA drives make the rear suspension bind free throughout suspension travel.

-Academy Rear hex rims are standard of course, but for those who want to use LOSI/AE/Proline rear rims, just remove the hex adaptor and use the pin drive instead. The width stays the same being that the ACADEMY rims offset is different then the others listed above.

-Multi Length Pivot (MLP) on the hub carrier and rear arm for long or short suspension geometry, along with vertically mounted ballstuds on the bulkhead are also featured on this new car.

More to come.....

[Davey G]

Sorry, Double post

[OldTimer]

Sounds good but were are the photos :D

[jimmy]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv201.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv202.jpg

[AndyM]

looks a bit like an RB5:o

looks quite good tho!

[woOdy]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv201.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv202.jpg

Is this going to be MY 2wd for next year Jim?

[jimmy]

Doesn't look half bad does it Stu.

[RLGfx]

I quite like the look of that, not sure about the bathtub rear wing though...:o

[Welshy40]

Nice, I like the design. I may be tempted

[Davey G]

Here are the latest pics!

[Davey G]

more...

[Welshy40]

Well what can I say but the design is outstanding. I like the wing mount design as when they do break it can be a pain to change on some cars and this design makes life simple, 5 seconds and a new one is installed. Very impressed.

I do think that there should be the option of 7 cells positions on the chassis like on the Associated B2/B3 as some drivers like over steer and some like understeer, where as this is set in only one place for the cells so am uncertain and may not buy one due to this one item, as I like the weight more forward.

[super__dan]

So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?

[Welshy40]

So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?

I agree with you on the shock mounts, but I have always replaced the kit ones with what I like, so it isnt difficult to rectify it, and put a longer screw through.

I like the idea of the wing mount as the ones I use always tend to bend after time and with this solution its just a quick change and game on. But yes you are right and maybe there will be some play after a period of time, but never the less the idea is a good one and there is always room for improvement.

Batteries, I suppose I could always do what Brian Kinwald did when he was using 7 cells, and mount one ontop of the first two and use a foam insert at the back, then I will have to find a way to hold the cells in. Still I like the cars design.

[tyreman]

So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?


I don't know, why what have you heard:confused: :confused: :wtf:

[Big E]

You know are you are Brain "Academy" Preddy;)

Oh sorry, said I wouldn't say didn't I :o

[KevLee]

You know are you are Brain "Academy" Preddy;)

Brain Preddy!! thats funny.....:D

[jim76]

it's an RB5 with a different shell. have to wait and see if the production quality is as good.

[ashleyb4]

HAHA Brian Academy Preddy haha ive heard something but im not saying anything.

A

[Big E]

Brain Preddy!! thats funny.....:D


Whoops, really should read stuff back, we all know there is no brain involved :D

[ashleyb4]

HAHA i never noticed that good spot ellis soon everyone will have nick names Ellis Hawk Eye Stafford:D:D

A

[super__dan]

I don't know, why what have you heard:confused: :confused: :wtf:

I hear lots of things, from the hotel room I'm in I can hear the sound of trains in Derby station and later likely the sound of the prosers in the knocking shop I'm staying above (alledgedly).

[KevLee]

Whoops, really should read stuff back, we all know there is no brain involved :D

haha! thats not very nice !

Brain, do you wish to defend yourself?

[KevLee]

I hear lots of things, from the hotel room I'm in I can hear the sound of trains in Derby station and later likely the sound of the prosers in the knocking shop I'm staying above (alledgedly).

House number and postcode please..........;)

[super__dan]

Sorry kev it's women prosers ;)

[KevLee]

Sorry kev it's women prosers ;)

oh i see!

so its women downstairs, brokeback upstairs?


:D

[super__dan]

Unfortunatly in the end I saw no evidence of pro's anywhere :(

[Chrislong]

I wouldn't fret, the biggest difference is the amount of confidence we have in AE products working. With past qualities, Academy have a lot of prooving to do with anything new, i.e. the first SB & Griffin, I know these are now old cars but unfortunately bad reputations stick very easily.

Not intending the above to sound harsh, just my 2p worth.

After seeing pictures i'll reserve judgement til I see one on the track.

The issue I had with the Griffin transmission was that it would not stay tight. To be honest mine was built by Nick Isaacs, and not very well, I did it again myself but with threadlock and never ran it again. How is the new diff?

I agree with what Dan says on the shock tower screws. But I like the wingmounts, if any slop comes with age then surely a peice of lexan under the bodyclips will tighten it up.... but although its made to be fast to change if broke, how easily are they broken?

[Tom3012]

looks good!, jus not to keen on the shell... id buy one though, price and spares depending:D

[Tom3012]

oh, and bring on the purple hop ups!!!!

[PaulRotheram]

wash yer mouth out tom, purple *spit* :p

[Davey G]

MRC will have our shipment of GV2 Pros in about 3 weeks... :o

[Davey G]

OK ok ok, so I was a little off with my ETA. It looks like the GV2 Pros will be here on MONDAY, if not sooner here in the US. Does the UK have them yet??

Attached is the starting team setup that a few of us have been messing around with on the prototype buggies with much success.

[david alberico]

Hey all. I've only had the car a whort time and have done really well at races here in the Missouri/Kansas Areas. We had a large regional race, had a chance to win coming down to the final main but ended up finishing 3rd. Ran the fall classic which saw serveral AE and Losi Drivers. Won the brushed stock class, finished 9th in the modified class. 5 in 4wd. Here are some pic of my car. I think I have tried every adjustment possible, so any questions I'd be happy to help.

[davidka]

Hi everyone, this is my first post here but I have followed oOple's reviews and event coverage for the last couple of years and it's been a great resource. I saw some conversation about the kit quality and plastic quality (shock mount screws threading directly into shock towers) and wanted to throw my experience into the hat. I have been running the SBv2 Pro for the last couple of weeks and I can tell you that this is the single best quality kit I have ever assembled (20+ years of racing beginning with the . All parts fit perfectly with ZERO need for fitting and sanding and the car practically fell together. I was concerned about the screws threading directly into the molded shock towers as well but it has been a non-issue. The track I am running on right now has been an arm, hub and shock tower eater (a jump of "high consequence") and while my Losi 2wd car has been through a couple sets of front arms in the last few weeks my SBv2 has not bent or broken a single part despite having been through the same types of crash. It has been very refreshing to know my 4wd car is the most durable in my stable.

The plastics quality and engineering of these kits are excellent .There are many shared parts, front and rear diff cases are the same, left and right arms are the same, slipper can be easliy adjusted without any disassembly and the car handles extremely well.

Now Dave G., get us USA drivers that GV2! :p

[tyreman]

Here is my kit which I have had for just over a week now, it went really well for the first meeting.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o86/tyreman/Photo-0001a.jpg

[MikePimlott]

cool pics, This looks like a really good car ?????:confused:

[rcrcman]

Our kits here in the USA will be in stock next week.... I have been eagerly awaiting the boat to land for along time, I have two kits on order. I wil post info and pics when I get mine together

[the wheel]

Ijust received and built my new gv2 great design,great fit of parts a plus that option parts were included in the kit Academy is the only company that sends option tunning parts with there kits that is a plus;) .I think the car is going to do very well from the looks of it it has alot more ground clearence then it's competitors.The car looks to be very durable and sound IT WILL BE A FORCE



ACADEMY/MRC
MAXAMPS.COM
DIGGITY DESIGNS:)

[Moose]

what about the plastic ? is it like the losi graphite stuff or rather like the losi EA3.
other academy cars where never equal to the asso / kyosho palstic. so i m a bit sceptical.
do we allready know how much the car will be? all academy cars were pretty cheap as far as i know

[xx4-nutter]

im seeing this price " Price: $219.98 " im thinking this aint bad......... whats that in sterling......... tempting :o

219.98 USD

=

106.919 GBP

United States Dollars

United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.486040 GBP

1 GBP = 2.05744 USD


where do you get these from in the UK ?

[tyreman]

im seeing this price " Price: $219.98 " im thinking this aint bad......... whats that in sterling......... tempting :o

219.98 USD

=

106.919 GBP

United States Dollars
United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.486040 GBP
1 GBP = 2.05744 USD



where do you get these from in the UK ?

The reality of that is tho, is the kit will retail for £150

[tyreman]

what about the plastic ? is it like the losi graphite stuff or rather like the losi EA3.
other academy cars where never equal to the asso / kyosho palstic. so i m a bit sceptical.
do we allready know how much the car will be? all academy cars were pretty cheap as far as i know


The plastic is very similar to the Losi EA3 composite and so for I have been impressed with the strenght of the car.

[xx4-nutter]

The reality of that is tho, is the kit will retail for £150


still not bad... im gonna have one :)

[Moose]

i hoped it would be graphite plastic (similar to losi graphite and kyosho tuning parts)
220 usd isn t that good. thats round 30 less than the asso. and with shipping and duty the difference isn t that big.
but thats the first price ... guess it will be possible to get it cheaper

[xx4-nutter]

would it be the advertised price at $220 direct from MRC ? surley they cant say that and ask for more. In all fairness soon as it hits britain its gonna shoot up a little...

brian where did you buy youres from ?

[RogerM]

I think Brian's car came from Horizon so he can trial it and get it out in the public eye as he drives for them .... might be wrong though

[tyreman]

For once Roger's right:D;)

My car is the test pilot if you like, and so far iv'e been really impressed with it.
It's been run 4 times now (once a kiddy and the rest during the week) i'm becoming alot more settled with it now, and the handling is very predictable now, so far on back to back run's it's starting to come together, and produce compairable lap times to my XXXcr.

The cars next outing will be at Eden Park Raceway on Sunday, a stern test for any car.

[xx4-nutter]

not bad ! :D

ive found one on ebay for under £100 free shipping, theres 6 available right now.. hopfully they will be there on payday ! :rolleyes:

[tyreman]

Look again free shipping to the US only

not bad ! :D

ive found one on ebay for under £100 free shipping, theres 6 available right now.. hopfully they will be there on payday ! :rolleyes:

[xx4-nutter]

:DLook again free shipping to the US only


** embarrast face ** :rolleyes:

a little off note but do you know if you need a PT for belgium GP ? or do they have handouts ? ... i know its a long shot :D

[tyreman]

:eh?::confused::confused::confused::confused::conf used::confused:

:D


** embarrast face ** :rolleyes:

a little off note but do you know if you need a PT for belgium GP ? or do they have handouts ? ... i know its a long shot :D

[xx4-nutter]

lol i knew this would happen, i mis read the shipping part on ebay about the academy...

as for the belgium question i asked you because i thought maybe you have been and raced there before in this event and may possibly know ?

hope that helps

[tyreman]

Sorry mate but iv'e never raced in Belgium.

I spoke to Horizon today and they are going to order the kits in the next few days.

[xx4-nutter]

I spoke to Horizon today and they are going to order the kits in the next few days.


great news mate :D

[davidka]

I just assembled my GV2 kit last night. The kit went together perfectly with no snags whatsoever. The screws are better than what I am accustomed to with AE and Losi and just about the whole car uses all the same 2mm allen wrench (nice!).

The kit includes two sets of front axles so AE wheels can be used in addition to the kit wheels and the rear will take Academy wheels or Losi/AE standard wheels.

The chassis is more narrow than the other cars on the market and a Novak GTB is a very tight fit but it does fit. You must space the speedo off the chassis about 2mm so the smaller contact board clears the outer edge of the chassis. I also use Lipo and the battery tray is good and wide so I can space my battery over a touch for speedo comfort. Those using LRP/Nosram or just about any conventional speed control will have no problem fitting their gear in it.

So Far I am VERY impressed with the car, just as I am with the SBv2. This Academy stuff is the real deal.

[xx4-nutter]

....the whole car uses all the same 2mm allen wrench (nice!).

The kit includes two sets of front axles so AE wheels can be used in addition to the kit wheels and the rear will take Academy wheels or Losi/AE standard wheels. ....


thats fantastic ! :D

[tyreman]

thats fantastic ! :D

Also includes a full set of spur gears, and both 25/30 and 27.5 deg castor block

[xx4-nutter]

Also includes a full set of spur gears, and both 25/30 and 27.5 deg castor block


im sold ! 2twice over !! :p GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMME !!

[big_boss]

I just had an email from Amain hobbies, my GV is on it's way to me, YAY.
Is there work to be done on the bellcranks like on the SB?
This is the first time I will not have a losi 2wd buggy in my line up, gulp...LoL.

[davidka]

Some have dremeled a little (tiny) bit off the chassis walls to allow the bell cranks to travel further. I feel that I have plenty of throw as it is but I'll see how I like it once it's running. I did have to use a small file to make for some clearance in the front bulkhead. The heads of the rack screws grazed it as they passed. Took 30 seconds to fix.

[Mr X]

i put mine together yesterday and i noticed that when the VLA is in the narrow position and the front knuckle is in the low position with the spacer on top the knuckle hits the arm on the part where the little screw goes in to hold the hingle pin. so im just wondering if anyone else has this?

also the steering bell cranks seemed to have alot of play going up and down, i shimmed them even though the manual didnt mention anything.

and one more thing, how do i set the slipper? do i just tighten the screw all the way in? if yes how do i adjust it?


other then those things i got to run it on a carpet track with stiffer springs and everything else being exactly like the manual and it was pretty good seemed stable on jumps and bumps and it was faster then my old xxx cr. also it wheeled alot.

[davidka]

As long as you know your diff is tight enough you want to set the slipper to slip before the diff. One way to do a bench setting is to have a friend hold the rear wheels while you apply throttle. The front wheels should come off the table while the slipper slips to prevent them from coming up violently. This will guarantee good drive off corners and jumps but protection for your diff.

I noticed the up and down play in the steering linkage too. I haven't done anything about it yet.

[Mr X]

i figured out what to do about the steering. they include 4 shims that are the perfect size to go behind the bearings. so you dont space the shafts you space the bearings from the plastic.

and what pistons can i use? associated or kyosho? and which are the same as the ones that come with the car.

[Gayo]

as for the belgium question i asked you because i thought maybe you have been and raced there before in this event and may possibly know ?


Yes, they have handouts :cool:

[davidka]

Mr X, Associated pistons work in the Academy shocks. They fit tighter than they do on the Associated shock bodies so you may need to sand the edge of your pistons slightly to get them to move freely (I needed to do one of mine in my 4wd). I don't know the piston hole sizes of the stockers but I'd say they are about like AE #2s based on the oil weights I'm running.

[rcrcman]

Well after 2 full dyas of testing I have come up with the following setup for med-high bite clay tracks, we have very tight technical sections mixed with a triple that spreads about 25'. This is the best setup so far with the fastest lap timed and great consistentcy.

Front

camber 3 - C 2 #4 AE washers under the ballstud
steering - stock rack with one #4 washer on the spindle
MLP - narrow
Shocks - 3-hole pistons 57's 30wt losi black academy springs
shock at middle hole in arm, middle in tower
27.5 aluminum caster kickup, stock droop (just below level)

Rear

3 degree's of anti-squat (AE .030 washer under front holder)
camber 2 - B no washers
shocks unscrewed 1 turn, 3-hole 56's 20wt losi white academy springs
shocks mounted outside in arm and #3 in tower
MLP narrow

Novak 7.5 'lite' geared 80/23 GTB 4-coast brake stock rest
Protek 4000 lipo + 1mm stainlessplate for weight (weighs 4.5oz.)
Run the slipper as tight as traction will allow, tons of forward bite
AE wheels F/R- Pink Tapers, Pink 3 rib prescrubs bomb 1 foams...flame and sauce with zip free

Jumps excellent!!!!, very predictable on/off throttle. Lovin it

[sberry67]

i just purchased a GV2 over the week end and im in need of some information on the shocks im a old losi guy im not sure what shock top they want you to use 7mm or 9mm and what is the over all length of the front & rear shocks. any help would be greatly app. :confused:

[Mr X]

they want you to use the long shock tops and the longer bottoms as well.


also i was wondering about the VLA on the car. i run narrow position and if i go to wide will that change the camber gain as well as making the suspension softer? so having it in the wide position would make the car have less grip at that end? i would like to prevent traction roll on a carpet track.

[rcrcman]

It will cause the car to have more side bite, and yes you will have more camber gain since the difference between the lower and uper arms is greater with a long MLP...assuming the link length doesnt change

[thom.p]

do you like those novak ''lights''

[rcrcman]

Its alot smoother, the brakes feel alot better too.... yes I like it so far

[rcrcman]

Front

camber 1 - A 1 #4 AE washer under the ballstud
steering - stock rack with 1 #4 washer on the spindle
MLP - narrow
Shocks - 3-hole pistons 57's 30wt losi black academy springs
shock at middle hole in arm, middle in tower
27.5 aluminum caster kickup, stock droop (just below level)

Rear

3 degree's of anti-squat (AE .030 washer under front holder)
camber 2 - B no washers
shocks unscrewed 1 turn, 3-hole 56's 20wt losi white academy springs
shocks mounted middle in arm and #2 in tower
MLP narrow

Novak 7.5 'lite' geared 80/23 GTB 4-coast brake stock rest
Protek 4000 lipo + 1mm stainlessplate for weight (weighs 4.5oz.)
Run the slipper as tight as traction will allow, tons of forward bite
AE wheels F/R- Panther Clay witches F/R bomb 1 foams...wash and spray with motor spray a heat before

[Mike Hudson]

i want a go with 1 looks interesting

[xx4-nutter]

heating the motor up ?

ive seen oddly Neil D playing with one a good few weeks ago at york indoor club meeting..............







on a car :p hehe what does it do ?

[rcrcman]

Here's the best to date setup for my car....you can experiment with 20-25wt rear oil depending on the size of jumps/bumps you have....other than hat I havent messed with it in a couple weeks.....dialed! I also run a 6.5 lite geared 19/80 now

also a couple pics showing how to strengthen the front end of your car where the bulkheads bolt to the chassis. Use a 30mm long countersunk screw all the way through all 3 pieces and nut the top. This eliminates some flex and makes the front end bullet proof.

Tony Newland, Team Academy USA

[wyd]

Need some more action on this thread. I tried the wide front MLP this weekend and was like WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was like I had a new touring car to drive. It didn't seem to take too muc steering awar if any but it made it smooth to drive. Made me feel like I was driving in slow motion but yet I was able to run my fastest lap ever from a 19.03 down to a 18.20 and could run consistantly in the mid to high 18 second laps and depending on traffic in the low 19's. I'm still stunned on what happened this weekend.

My GV2 is really coming alive for me on are track (which it is very brutal on cars an drivers for that matter The track has the nick name of Bumps and Bruises and its no lie.:D

[MitchB.]

Reigle your car looked good all day.Chris was mad that you got him on the last lap. Unfortunately i didnt see the race between you guys because i was already finished and upstairs eating cheesefries and playing mario kart by the time you guys were done. :woot::woot::woot:

[wyd]

Reigle your car looked good all day.Chris was mad that you got him on the last lap. Unfortunately i didnt see the race between you guys because i was already finished and upstairs eating cheesefries and playing mario kart by the time you guys were done. :woot::woot::woot:Yeah I knew I should of made you work harder to get by. My car might be wider next week.:D Bumps has been alot of fun since I got my car working alot better than the first 2 weeks on it. The car is coming along great and will keep trying to make it better.