New Durango

[tc2k]

A response to the Aero palava?

http://www.redrc.net/2007/07/team-durangos-latest-4wd-buggy/#more-4346

[Lee Martin]

looks the same as the old one............

only clean.....

the released aero will be a whole new car....

99% of parts being made in house....

[tc2k]

Looks like different centre driveshafts and a less bulky carbon fibre steering linkage. Congrats on the win aswell Lee, looks like the Aero is the real deal.

[Lee Martin]

cheers dude...

[strobe]

Lee.
After yesterdays win does that make you this years 4wd National Champ.

[millzy]

no randoms cant win it :):)

[Southwell]

Lee.
After yesterdays win does that make you this years 4wd National Champ.

He's in the best position but others can win it, although I recon he will.

[_sleigh_]

I know it's the wrong thread for this, but I "think" that only Lee M, Chris D or Darren B can now win the 4WD series.

[ashleyb4]

I know i was thinking about that sleigh at the weekend. But im not sure is chris doughty can as lee will hav 3 wins where chris will only have 2. Im not sure. ill do some investigating. Well done on your second overall yesterday i can see why you called it off.

A

[_sleigh_]

I know i was thinking about that sleigh at the weekend. But im not sure is chris doughty can as lee will hav 3 wins where chris will only have 2. Im not sure. ill do some investigating. Well done on your second overall yesterday i can see why you called it off.

A

Wow, wow, wow, wow...... I didn't call it off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That descision was already made before I had finished marshalling after the second leg. The race director Phil Channon had made the decision that it was unsafe to marshall on the slippery conditions.

[jimmy]

Great drive in that first leg Phil

[_sleigh_]

I know i was thinking about that sleigh at the weekend. But im not sure is chris doughty can as lee will hav 3 wins where chris will only have 2. Im not sure. ill do some investigating. Well done on your second overall yesterday i can see why you called it off.

A


As for the championship.. If Chris was to win the remaining two rounds his score would be 520, and if Darren won them his would be 522. Whereas if Lee didn't improve on his current rounds scores his total would be 519.

[_sleigh_]

Great drive in that first leg Phil

Thanks Jimmy... I think that my car was fractionally quicker that Lee's, but there was one section of the track I just couldn't get right. After the table top I just could get tight enough aroudnthe left hander into the left hairpin. It just left me open to to many pass chances for others.

Still well chuffed with my qualifying, especially TQ'ing the last round.

[ashleyb4]

Sorry phil i thought you where one of the people who got a say if it was cancelled or not. But it was the right call. I still want to know what you will be driving in 2008 because ive heard rumours.:D and who will i ask for help if you change.

A

[millzy]

Hes runnig the enw ttech 2wd

[ashleyb4]

aahhh up he was running a tamiya a minute ago now its a t-tech 2wd.

A

[millzy]

yeah he changed his minde as soon as i posted

[ashleyb4]

I think phils got more sence that to run a tamiya.

A

[millzy]

really hes runnig a xxxcr right now...

and thinks green the colour or 2007

[jimmy]

Tamiya is awesome - I hope they make a 2WD also. But I can't see them ever having a proper team or anything, it will just be the odd one you see at Nationals. Great car though.

[ashleyb4]

True millzy about the 2wd. Does this mean he may be running a b4. OOOOHHHHH come on phil tell us.

A

[_sleigh_]

Losi/LRP is my current ride..... EOS.....

[ashleyb4]

yea sorry phil all will be revielled in 2008 but i do hope you stay with losi it wont be the same without you and your xx4.

A

[k£v!n]

He's dieing to find out isn't he :D

I like the Tamiya 4wd, but personally i cant see it filling the A final any time soon!

[Nick Goodall]

Phil come on, show Ash what you're 2008 car will be...... Ooh ok i'll post it instead for you:

http://www.abcmodelsport.net/p350947/Nikko-112-Evolution-Dragon-RTR-Blue.html

[jimmy]

'Losi' is a toy company now- the real LOSI is at Kyosho!

[ashleyb4]

oh yes ive got to get one of those.

Will it take my vortex???????????:confused:

A

[k£v!n]

£71.99 :mad: Im sure i saw that in argos for £50 :D

[Lee]

Im sensing a bit of man love coming from ash and in the direction of sleigh;) :D

[ashleyb4]

:o :o :o sleigh is a ledgend but im not like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A

[Lee]

HA HA HA

:D

[_sleigh_]

I can sense my retirement coming on, and I'll be retreating to northern Scotland.. far far away from the man love.

[ashleyb4]

Im not happy about my 10 seconds. I want them back.


A

[Lee Martin]

I think phils got more sence that to run a tamiya.

A

shut up and stop trying to through spanners in the works....

no one said phil was changing....stop trying to push things

[millzy]

you can stick your ko next to mine if you do phill

[NeilD]

Phils avatar and signature could be taken that he is changing sponsors, rightly or wrongly.

[_sleigh_]

Does that mean your next car will be produced by DogsTrust??????

No I didn't think so......

[Lee]

I agree Neil, :)

And i also know what phil is saying, he might just be having an uber cool signature made up, but its certainly got little ash very excited

[NeilD]

No Phil but i do SPONSOR a homeless dog which is housed with them.:)

[jimmy]

is it a fast dog?:o

[_sleigh_]

Damn you Neil, you could have helped pay my salary and donated to PDSA. :D

[Lee]

I think its brushless jim (low maintenance):D

[NeilD]

Phil, you work for the PDSA?

Lee, thats a shocking joke, stick to racing.:D

[_sleigh_]

I do indeed... 10years last april.. argghhhhhhhhhhh :eh?:

[NeilD]

What do you do?

[_sleigh_]

Now I'm worried... :D


Work in IT, as Network Manager.

[Lee]

Ill get my coat:D

[NeilD]

Ah, so you aren't dealing with the animals then. I would love to do a job like that, not IT, working with the animals.

Wheres Lee gone?:D :D

[_sleigh_]

Nope, no animals here (well one or two dogs, but they work in accounts)

I do go out occasionally on site to the Hospitals. It's quite normal to be working late at night and have an emergency come in and have to help out. Best was having to stand and hold the fluids while the vet started to operate on a rottweiler. Worst was walking in a consulting room to find a vet cleaning up after a dog had hemeraged all over the white cupboards.

[Lee Martin]

ergh...

cheers sleigh..........

[NeilD]

I guess they take the rough with the smooth but it must be so rewarding.

[_sleigh_]

ergh...

cheers sleigh..........

Yeah I know those birds in accounts are ruffff.

[Lee]

I would love to go and live in the outbackor a safari for a while to get away from life as we know it, i think that would be cool, i dont think it would be any easier but i dont think you would get the stress of £140m projects and people climbing all over eachother to climb the corporate ladder, hence why im self employed:D

[NeilD]

The thing for me about working with animals is that they sometimes really need our help. You can help some humans and they are so ungrateful. I deliver cancer feeds to people, this stuff keeps them alive and they lead normal lives but some of them are such wankers! It's always nice to get home and see my dog. No matter how bad the day has been she's always happy to see me, tail wagging wanting to play. Animals don't judge people and if you are good with them they will be good with you.

[gramey]

:eh?: Judging by the turn this thread has taken talking about dogs haemorrhaging the prospect 'new' Durango can't be that exciting!!!:)

[Lee]

I think people would be more excited if there was an oportunity to buy it;)

[Lee]

Why are manufactures allowed to run 1 off cars or those made for the chosen few?
When i was racing off road i know the brca stopped this in the days when HPI were developing their shaft car, the car later went into production but the BRCA stopped karl marsden (sp) running it at the time because HPI didnt know if it would go into production.

This is probably the only aspect of off road i dont agree with especially if there is no plans to sell the car to the public but the elite can use it?

[Chris Doughty]

really? I can't remember them banning prototypes ever?

[_sleigh_]

Me neither... perhaps we're just to young to remember that Chris (well I know I am) :D :D :D

[Lee Martin]

you cant release something without making it a prototype and testing it.....

[Chris Doughty]

I have raced for ages, and raced with Karl Marsden (he was in my region) for ages too...

he was schumacher for ages and then changed to HPI.

[Lee Martin]

whats the ages thign all about?

[Lee]

I understand prototypes have to be raced but i think people complained about the fact hpi did not know if it would ever be released and that it was very very quick.

[Lee Martin]

so wat car did it turn out to be?

[Southwell]

Academy Griffin :P

[millzy]

academy sb

[Lee]

so wat car did it turn out to be?


When it was released it was the Pro 4 which was release back around 2003, this was 2001 i think that Hara and karl had the cars

[millzy]

i remeber seeing that years ago, Andy G i think showed me and my brother it back when Markham held the 12th nationals

[Nick Goodall]

I always thought Prototypes were allowed - What about all the random things Schumacher used to do to their cars? Would some of those changes (even if never available to the public) not have classed the cars as prototypes? It's a bit of a tough one really as people modify their own cars all the time (Look at the BX) - So techinically does that mean the cars wouldn't have been allowed to race if this rule was in place? Just how different does a car need to be to be considered a prototype??

[millzy]

ellis ran the xxx4 for a year as a prototype remeber.
and the hotbodys was a prototype tc for a year as well

[Lee]

I think its fine and its obviously great for the future if people are always trying new things, if they dont work then fair enough but i think it becomes a bit unfair when you get someone who is obviously very bright and has a bit of cash then builds a few cars and gives it to the worlds best, how do you compete with that?

I know teams try different things but 9 times out of ten we find out anyway.

[millzy]

if there the worlds best then they will win any way

[Lee]

yeah i know what your saying, but it would be nice to see them do it with a production car, otherwise people will always be saying he was using a one off car etc

[_sleigh_]

http://www.redrc.net/2007/07/joseph-quagraine-joins-durango/

Looks like a tactic of snapping up a local driver in the hope of increased chances of winning.

[jimmy]

Not a bad tactic I have to say! :D Should have chosen me though :mad::mad::mad::mad:
Oh well.

[Lee Martin]

be interesting to see him driving 10th......

[k£v!n]

yeah, does anyone know if hes raced 1.10th before?