Team Durango 2mm CVD's now available!!

[Hulk]

Here is the link to their website:

http://www.team-durango.com/parts.php?partNo=TD102001&type=OPT

I know a previous thread was started by Bagman but just thought id make it a bit more obvious. Cheers Bagman.

The 2mm driveshaft pins are due in any day, but are currently held up in customs due to the volcanic ash!

[JohnM]

Do you know when the cars themselfs are going to be in Craig?

[Hulk]

Not sure yet mate but i imagine if CVD's parts are currently held up in customs the chances are other parts are too ;).

Don't think it should be too long.

[mark christopher]

any news if there going to be offered as a discounted replacement for those with the weaker versions?

[Bagman]

Surely we'd have heard of something by now if they were going to do that. It must've been discussed at a high level at team durango, if they had gone with it I'm sure they would have made an announcement to say so to stem a bit of disquiet. If they aren't going to do it then the best way to deal with it I suppose is just to stay quiet and keep your head down on the subject (team durango that is)

[stuhurley]

doesnt look like the rears are in stock yet...

http://www.team-durango.com/search.php?searchTerms=2.0mm&Go=Go

or they already sold out ?:thumbsup:

[Hulk]

Like i mentioned above, some parts are still in customs at the moment so should arrive any day soon.

[sime46]

Bollox. Just had some delivered from Tresrey. Always happens to me this. Oh well, the Tresrey ones look mint. Spose I'll order the prop shafts from TD. This car will be even more awesome now. WOOOHOOO.:thumbsup:

[turbobrick]

any news if there going to be offered as a discounted replacement for those with the weaker versions?

Did you get a reply???

I had 2 pins snap in half again yesterday along with another driver at the same event.

[mark christopher]

i did get a reply, there was no confirmed yes or no,
advised to build them properly, set the slipper correctly and no team drivers have had issues and no faulty units have been returned

[njc11]

:o My word... £100 approx to upgrade for existing DEX owners!! :o

Some discount to existing owners must be on the cards?

Im sure something will be done...

:thumbsup:

[dex410usa]

Dream on!
:o My word... £100 approx to upgrade for existing DEX owners!! :o

Some discount to existing owners must be on the cards?

Im sure something will be done...

:thumbsup:

[turbobrick]

i did get a reply, there was no confirmed yes or no,
advised to build them properly, set the slipper correctly and no team drivers have had issues and no faulty units have been returned

I know an ex team driver who has sold his car for this reason :thumbdown::thumbdown:

[Hulk]

Once i used the bearing tip mentioned in previous threads i had no problems at all with the current pins.

I currently have the 2mm CVD's but still use my old CVD's for club meetings and Regionals with no problems. Adam Skelding had his CVD's on his car for over 6 months, again with no issues.

The bearing method in my opinion is the best solution if you are having any issues though, as you dont have to use grub screws, therefore putting no pressure on the centre of the pin.

[maxoo]

Adam Skelding had his CVD's on his car for over 6 months, again with no issues.

It's not true: @PetitRC Race (16th & 17th JANUARY 2010) He had already the 2mm pins on all CVD's !!

http://www.petitrc.com/prcrace2010/photos/album/images/DSC_8640.jpg

[gazbaz2]

I know an ex team driver who has sold his car for this reason :thumbdown::thumbdown:

peter he told me different, so who knows really ?

[Hulk]

Yeh they were some prototypes we tried for the first time at the Petit, but Adam first got his car in July 2009!

July - Jan = around 6 months :p lol

[James]

And they were prototypes for a reason, the first 2mm ones weren't exactly right, they were tweaked to the finished article now which are spot on.

[fifi]

Which one to choose? Team durango 2mm or tresrey?

[maxoo]

Which one to choose? Team durango 2mm or tresrey?

Personally I have tresrey, because It's available since 4 months...

[Bagman]

I'm in the same boat as Sime in that I ordered my Tresrey stuff just before the Durango gear came out. Got them yesterday and I will say though you get a lot in the Tresrey packs. I'd go with them as they do look the business too. The driveshafts even came with serrated nuts. Replaced all 6 shafts yesterday and waiting for the next race to test. Will probably go for the whole lot next time, hubs, etc.

[lochness42]

Will probably go for the whole lot next time, hubs, etc.
etc. - mean whole TreseyRango buggy? :D

[Bagman]

I'll just spray the whole thing red and say it's Tresrey. I still want chrome wheels though.

[lochness42]

I'll just spray the whole thing red and say it's Tresrey. I still want chrome wheels though.

It would be much better to get that buggy anoed red, but oh
it would make that damn thing most expensive 1:10 scale buggy :D

[ApfelBirne]

I´ve got question:
What´s the difference between the 2mm Driveshafts and the stock Driveshafts?
The Thickness of the Pins?


greez
tim

[assob4]

The Thickness of the Pins?


Yes :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[ApfelBirne]

Thanks assob4.

Do you think, that the 2mm Driveshafts will be in the Durango "out of the box" ? (i hope you can understand me, my english is very bad:blush: )

[JohnM]

Well, they will be in the box of the 410R, I guess that the pro kit will have them as well from now.

[nobby]

Well, they will be in the box of the 410R, I guess that the pro kit will have them as well from now.
why will they be in the pro kit from now on if when we ask why the pins snap we are told we have built them wrong:confused:

surely if it's a build problem they shouldn't need to be replaced?

can someone from durango explain why you are replacing them please?

[reg]

why will they be in the pro kit from now on if when we ask why the pins snap we are told we have built them wrong:confused:

surely if it's a build problem they shouldn't need to be replaced?

can someone from durango explain why you are replacing them please?


valid point

[nobby]

come on durango were is your reply?

think somebody should contact citizens advice on were we stand.

[HyperFX]

come on durango were is your reply?

think somebody should contact citizens advice on were we stand.
This forum is helpful, but, you'ld get better results by sending TD a direct email.

[nobby]

This forum is helpful, but, you'ld get better results by send TD a direct email.
hang on a minute we have been discussing this for quite some time, but know body (as for as i can see) have not replied to any post.

this does not look good for durango.

[steel]

i have had the same problem as everyone with the pins last week my car went on fire due to the pin piercing the lipo this was the reply i got

You have seen that we are introducing drive shafts with 2.0mm pins. These are new parts, not changes to the existing parts. These new drive shafts have been developed for the DEX410R model as we feel that the users of this slightly lower end model would not have so much experience with setting up of the slipper clutch, making the use of slightly stronger pins necessary.:thumbdown:

[annonymous]

i have had the same problem as everyone with the pins last week my car went on fire due to the pin piercing the lipo this was the reply i got

You have seen that we are introducing drive shafts with 2.0mm pins. These are new parts, not changes to the existing parts. These new drive shafts have been developed for the DEX410R model as we feel that the users of this slightly lower end model would not have so much experience with setting up of the slipper clutch, making the use of slightly stronger pins necessary.:thumbdown:

what a shiest:blush:

this 1.5mm pin stuff is starting to make me mad, and the disregard of the problem even more so. I understand that the 1.5 pins work if built correctly, but no matter your skill level or your car building prowess, there is ALWAYS that "what if" factor. Something as questionable and basic as this is a bit ridiculous coming from a $700 car

:cry:

[reg]

i have had the same problem as everyone with the pins last week my car went on fire due to the pin piercing the lipo this was the reply i got

You have seen that we are introducing drive shafts with 2.0mm pins. These are new parts, not changes to the existing parts. These new drive shafts have been developed for the DEX410R model as we feel that the users of this slightly lower end model would not have so much experience with setting up of the slipper clutch, making the use of slightly stronger pins necessary.:thumbdown:


if this is the case why are they putting them in the new batch of pro kits

[JohnM]

if this is the case why are they putting them in the new batch of pro kits

Or why is it the Team drivers use the 2.0mm shafts?

[paulc]

At the end of the day it looks like team durango arn't going to be offering any discount or freebies to customers that have allready spent there hard earned cash on there kit so it's either spend the £100 on a new set of driveshafts or keep using the standard ones or sell the durango and buy something else thats just my opinion

Paul

[nobby]

At the end of the day it looks like team durango arn't going to be offering any discount or freebies to customers that have allready spent there hard earned cash on there kit so it's either spend the £100 on a new set of driveshafts or keep using the standard ones or sell the durango and buy something else thats just my opinion

Paul
your bang on mate that seems to be there stand on the matter:thumbdown:

anybody want to buy a durango?
used 4 times once outdoors.
p.m. me if your interested:thumbsup:

[paul01ews]

I think i am with you on this one paulc many drivers will be voting with there feet me thinks.
I have two cars to upgrade so might just sell them both and go back to the s4's where the pins have never been a problem?
paul.:woot:

[one]

....

[paulc]

To be honest i think the car is awsome and very strong i have broke one front shock shaft and a servo saver arm and have'nt had a single problem with driveshaft pins and i have been running the car since christmas most weekends and i won't be selling mine

Team Durango have been helpful trackside and on oOple but i think they should have made a comment on the drive shaft pin issue don't think it helps anybody saying nothing

Should Team Durango give out freebies or discounted parts ?

Personally it would be nice but don't think they should have to

One,

There is a guide to setting the slipper clutch in the manual i think it's 8.5mm

Paul :)

[one]

Thanks Paul

I set the slipper exactly 8.5 mm, as per the manual. Broken pins. :(

I can't be bothered with this anymore.




To be honest i think the car is awsome and very strong i have broke one front shock shaft and a servo saver arm and have'nt had a single problem with driveshaft pins and i have been running the car since christmas most weekends and i won't be selling mine

Team Durango have been helpful trackside and on oOple but i think they should have made a comment on the drive shaft pin issue don't think it helps anybody saying nothing

Should Team Durango give out freebies or discounted parts ?

Personally it would be nice but don't think they should have to

One,

There is a guide to setting the slipper clutch in the manual i think it's 8.5mm

Paul :)

[JohnM]

I found 8.5mm on the slipper to be too tight, so backed it off pretty much straight away, didn't have any problems with the pins for 8 months or so, but recently, it seems to have caught "oOple pin Death", not sure if it's breaking the pins, or if they are just escaping, I tend to end up with driveshaft, axle, bushing and 2 grub screws, but no pin:confused:

[paulc]

I have the 2 grub screws in aswell then put heatshrink round the driveshaft the pins not going nowhere then :thumbsup:

John what is your slipper set at now ??

Paul :)

[nobby]

I have the 2 grub screws in aswell then put heatshrink round the driveshaft the pins not going nowhere then :thumbsup:

John what is your slipper set at now ??

Paul :)
i'v done exactly the same thing with my drive shafts, and i raced it saturday, and broke 5 pins.
bullet proofing the drive shafts as durango say is nonsense.

you find your self racing the car, and thinking more about when the pins are going to snap:thumbdown:

[DaSloth]

i'v done exactly the same thing with my drive shafts, and i raced it saturday, and broke 5 pins.
bullet proofing the drive shafts as durango say is nonsense.

you find your self racing the car, and thinking more about when the pins are going to snap:thumbdown:

have you tried sending them back to TD? something sounds a bit suspect with that imo. Maybe there is something wrong with the other parts which are causing more strain on the pins?

Personally i built them normally with a 2nd grub screw and they've been fine so far (touching lots of wood :))

[paulc]

i'v done exactly the same thing with my drive shafts, and i raced it saturday, and broke 5 pins.
bullet proofing the drive shafts as durango say is nonsense.

you find your self racing the car, and thinking more about when the pins are going to snap:thumbdown:


How is your slipper clutch set ? Have you tryed slackening it off mine is abit slacker than the 8.5mm . Seems abit odd one persons car is fine and another is'nt when there built the same

Paul

[JohnM]

John what is your slipper set at now ??

Paul :)

Not sure without taking it apart, but I think it's about 8.2-8.3mm, not alot different, wasn't thinking of the pins when I did it, just made it feel better over the bumps at our track.

[JohnM]

Personally i built them normally with a 2nd grub screw and they've been fine so far (touching lots of wood :))

I did that back in September when I got the car, was fine until end of April, when it started to break/lose pins, went through 4 in 6 races in one meeting.

[andys]

Just saw this new thread and find it hard to believe Durango are not responding to this.
I'm so glad I didn't buy a Durango at launch, I'm very tempted by the 410R and am ready to buy one as it won't have the same problems. I do though feel maybe I should not bother if this is how many Durango customers are being treated ?

[annonymous]

Is a slipper clutch supposed to be the ONLY thing between a win and a DNF? Really? I have never in my life seen a company of this caliber make something so borderline and then justify it like that.:bored:

I personally race on a very small track that runs VERY fast. it is high traction, with large jumps and many turns . All of the racing on it is about hole shots and getting top speed the fastest. On the DEX410, if I set the slipper as per the instructions, the car is sluggish and isn't competitive in the power department. When I tighten the slipper to make the car rip, the drivetrain shreds and I can't finish a single round, many times over.

I have no support here in the US, and parts are expensive to get. After putting my entire RC budget into this car and stocking its parts, I am expected to spend yet another $150+ to make it compete with the cheesy B44?, wich it is "supposed" to be out of the box? :confused: The B44 is 1/3 of the price and quality of the DEX410 for crying out loud!

I don't expect free parts, but I do expect the recognition of a problem from a high class company like Durango and then having them rectify it, not ignore it and push it off on the individual

I donno guys, I am waiting for the final outcome before I sell this car, but the future is looking bleak

sorry for the rant!:p:lol:

come on Durango, say something that makes us happy, or at least content:woot::wub

[telboy]

Just saw this new thread and find it hard to believe Durango are not responding to this.
I'm so glad I didn't buy a Durango at launch, I'm very tempted by the 410R and am ready to buy one as it won't have the same problems. I do though feel maybe I should not bother if this is how many Durango customers are being treated ?

If people contact Durango direct they will respond and try and sort the problems that people are having. But only a (small) handful of people have actually contacted them about the drivepin problems.
I think more people have moaned on here about them than have actually contacted TD. TD will not sort problems with individuals cars that are posted on here. They need to be contacted direct.

Regarding the Slipper. The visible amount of thread on my slipper adjustment is between 3-4mm. So it is worth experimenting with it to get the right amount of slip. I have had 1 drive pin break, and that was due to me rush the re-assembly 5 mins before a race. And I've been racing the car since last october. :)



Why don't people moan about upgrades and option parts on £400 Tamiyas?

[DaveG28]

If people contact Durango direct they will respond and try and sort the problems that people are having. But only a (small) handful of people have actually contacted them about the drivepin problems.
I think more people have moaned on here about them than have actually contacted TD. TD will not sort problems with individuals cars that are posted on here. They need to be contacted direct.

Regarding the Slipper. The visible amount of thread on my slipper adjustment is between 3-4mm. So it is worth experimenting with it to get the right amount of slip. I have had 1 drive pin break, and that was due to me rush the re-assembly 5 mins before a race. And I've been racing the car since last october. :)



Why don't people moan about upgrades and option parts on £400 Tamiyas?

Probably because the Tamiya is £400 after upgrades, not before (well, to be fair if you buy it abroad!!). There was a thread a while ago where Jimmy/myself/Northy I think it was discussed/argued the Durango/Tamiya price thing and to be fair they ended up very similar for a blinged up hopped up Tamiya vs similar Durango. The Tamiya is very durable in that condition though.

Not commenting on the Durango pin issue as I haven't seen it, but as you asked thought I'd answer ;)

[samd]

Just had a email team Durango are now offering current owners new
drive shafts at a 50% discount. About £50 for all 6 drive shafts.

[telboy]

Probably because the Tamiya is £400 after upgrades, not before (well, to be fair if you buy it abroad!!). There was a thread a while ago where Jimmy/myself/Northy I think it was discussed/argued the Durango/Tamiya price thing and to be fair they ended up very similar for a blinged up hopped up Tamiya vs similar Durango. The Tamiya is very durable in that condition though.

Not commenting on the Durango pin issue as I haven't seen it, but as you asked thought I'd answer ;)

Appreciated the fact of buying abroad as it would be more equal, but if it was bought over here there would be no chance of matching the 410's price....even if you bought the new driveshafts as hop ups.

The new Tamiya's are looking pretty competetive though.:thumbdown:.....:p

[DaveG28]

Appreciated the fact of buying abroad as it would be more equal, but if it was bought over here there would be no chance of matching the 410's price....even if you bought the new driveshafts as hop ups.

The new Tamiya's are looking pretty competetive though.:thumbdown:.....:p

All true, and good news about TD offering the discount!

[BostonNelson]

Hi. Did they say anything on HOW the offer is going to be made. Cant find any info on TD site.

Just had a email team Durango are now offering current owners new
drive shafts at a 50% discount. About £50 for all 6 drive shafts.

[one]

I have to say I'm really glad to hear TD are doing this. I, as maybe others too, was really blown away that this new company were making a car with passion, and patience. Up against the task of competing with all the other big companies. To make something great for racers like us who love smashing (not crashing) it out on the track each weekend.

I am glad that I can continue being fully pumped about this brand.

Well done guys. Big shout out to you. :thumbsup:

Now where's my 2wd???? :drool:

[Diesel]

Hi. Did they say anything on HOW the offer is going to be made. Cant find any info on TD site.

It appears when you put references in your basket.

It is definitely a good way to launch this brand to the top.:thumbsup:

[BostonNelson]

Well I might be blind but all I see in my basket is a quantity and price field, and its not discounted. Am I the only one having trouble? :confused:

It appears when you put references in your basket.

It is definitely a good way to launch this brand to the top.:thumbsup:

[HyperFX]

Well I might be blind but all I see in my basket is a quantity and price field, and its not discounted. Am I the only one having trouble? :confused:

I've tried several times, and I see no reference/discount.

[dasbo]

I have just had it confirmed by TD that a discount is indeed offered. The first thing you need to do is contact your dealer who supplied the kit. They should be able to offer you 1 full set of 2mm driveshaft parts with the discount applied. If not, contact TD and they will help you out as they have with me.

Thanks Team Durango for a much appreciated gesture.:lol:

[JohnM]

I just placed my order, discount worked fine, when you check your basket the discounted parts are in red:thumbsup:

[Bungleaio]

I've ordered a set via microtech. Fantastic gesture by TD :thumbsup:

[Bagman]

So how much did they work out to in the end, has everybody all 6? I just fitted Tresrey ones last week but it would be good to have these as a standby instead of my old 1.5mm jobs. £100 for new saddle lipo, £100 for the Tresrey shafts (plus £18 postage) and then £50 for the Durango stuff. There is a shafted joke in there somewhere but to be honest the car is such a fantastic piece of engineering that I'll let it go and get on with some racing.

[Bungleaio]

I don't know exactly how much they are but they are around £50.

I've gone for all 6 shafts but to be honest I haven't had a single problem with the 1.5mm ones.

[HyperFX]

I just placed my order, discount worked fine, when you check your basket the discounted parts are in red:thumbsup:

Still not working for me. No red, no discount.

[Full Metal Jacket]

2mm CVD start selling already?

[mark christopher]

Still not working for me. No red, no discount.
if you did not buy your car direct from durango, then you need to contact the dealer you bought it from

[JohnM]

2mm CVD start selling already?

Think they've been selling them for a few weeks now;)

[HyperFX]

if you did not buy your car direct from durango, then you need to contact the dealer you bought it from

Well, that sucks! I didn't buy from a dealer. I purchase parts direct from Team-Durango.com often, and it's not like I'm buying parts for another brand.
Shafted, again. What crap.

[telboy]

Contact TD direct and discuss with them, they will sort you out I'm sure.

[nobby]

i don't care what discount they have offered it's still not good enough.
they should do them for free on receiving your 1.5mm shafts:thumbdown:

[one]

Well, that sucks! I didn't buy from a dealer. I purchase parts direct from Team-Durango.com often, and it's not like I'm buying parts for another brand.
Shafted, again. What crap.

I'm sure it's not a problem, just send them an email. Sounds like they are doing a good thing, and can't imagine that wouldn't apply to international owners.

[JohnM]

i don't care what discount they have offered it's still not good enough.
they should do them for free on receiving your 1.5mm shafts:thumbdown:

christ, some people are never happy.

[fastinfastout]

ive never had a problem with the standard 1.5mm pins. And I run a 5.5 in mine. And if they do break, I will just replace them with some aftermarket 1.5mm pins.

[steel]

ive never had a problem with the standard 1.5mm pins. And I run a 5.5 in mine. And if they do break, I will just replace them with some aftermarket 1.5mm pins.

i guess some ppl are lucky i didnt have a problem with them from launch till now an odd cvd coming loose was all till last week when the pin pierced my lipo and the car went up in smoke a costly do! Anyways a big:thumbsup: from me for TD the durango can only get better:wub

[paul01ews]

Well done TD, i will now be ordering my new shafts from Andy at PBM and not selling the cars:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
W

[nobby]

christ, some people are never happy.
your right mate some people are never happy.
can you tell me why i should be happy with that offer?
why should i have to pay for upgraded parts that fix a sub standard part?

[cmgreen]

Imagine if you bought a real car, and there was a problem and was told 'your drivings at fault'. Then some months down the line a solution was found and you were told to pay 50% of the cost, would you be happy with that??

[JohnM]

your right mate some people are never happy.
can you tell me why i should be happy with that offer?
why should i have to pay for upgraded parts that fix a sub standard part?

Well they could've given us nothing at all, or did you expect them to be free?

And then if they were free, you'd probably want your race fees from when you lost a pin paid for.

[nobby]

Well they could've given us nothing at all, or did you expect them to be free?

And then if they were free, you'd probably want your race fees from when you lost a pin paid for.
yes i did expect them to be free.
over the years companies like Schumacher/associated/yokomo you name it if a car was released, and a part was found to be substandard you were told to contact your local model shop, and they would replace the parts for free.
this car is being sold as the ultimate rc car, but some parts arn't up to the job so we pay £455 for a kit then we are told we have to pay another £50 to make sure it lasts a 5 minute run.
thats a crap way of dealing with your customers, and once i get rid of this car i can't see me buying another:thumbdown:

[JohnM]

yes i did expect them to be free.
over the years companies like Schumacher/associated/yokomo you name it if a car was released, and a part was found to be substandard you were told to contact your local model shop, and they would replace the parts for free.


I must have been lucky with my cars, I've never heard of that before, even back in '86/'87 when a PB Mini Mustang would fall apart if it was too cold, I don't remember revised parts being given out.

[nobby]

I must have been lucky with my cars, I've never heard of that before, even back in '86/'87 when a PB Mini Mustang would fall apart if it was too cold, I don't remember revised parts being given out.
take from me mate any company if it had a problem with any new product they would replace any part that had been upgraded

basically if you buy a fullsize car and a part fails through not being strong enough or up to the job it was intended for would you be happy to put your hand in your pocket to get it sorted?

i think not.
so why should we have to pay for this?

[JohnM]

Because they're only toy cars, where your life isn't at risk if something isn't up to scratch, which it could be in full size cars.

[telboy]

take from me mate any company if it had a problem with any new product they would replace any part that had been upgraded



Have schumacher given everyone that bought an original CAT SX the new parts that have been upgraded on the SX2?

I think not.

Its only the same principle.

[mark christopher]

Have schumacher given everyone that bought an original CAT SX the new parts that have been upgraded on the SX2?

I think not.

Its only the same principle.

terry
so when the original Cat sx was released and it snapped outdrives like butter, Schumacher did not hand out free ones....... am i correct in thats what your saying??

for the record im happy with durango and the jesture they have made for thier owners

[Rich D]

Imagine if you bought a real car, and there was a problem and was told 'your drivings at fault'. Then some months down the line a solution was found and you were told to pay 50% of the cost, would you be happy with that??


I can see the point that you`re trying to make but unlike a full sized car, Durangos`s arent sold with a manufacturers warranty. Everyone buys them knowing this.

50% off RRP is an offer of goodwill on behalf of the manufacturer as i see it. Personally i can`t see how they can do much more than that. I suspect that the profit margins aren`t what many of you expect them to be so what you paid for the kit is kind of irrelevant. All of the top flight 4WD kits are pricey by the time they are built to a similar specification. It just seems more for the Durango as its all in one hit.

I can understand your frustration guys but in the grand scheme of things, £50 isnt worth getting stressed about to get your car right. If it was the Ford Durango then perhaps you would all get freebies but sadly it isn`t.

Peace :)

[telboy]

terry
so when the original Cat sx was released and it snapped outdrives like butter, Schumacher did not hand out free ones....... am i correct in thats what your saying??

for the record im happy with durango and the jesture they have made for thier owners

Nope. lol
Basically everyones got the face on because the R will have the 2mm pins on, and the £450 kit they bought didn't.
So what I'm saying is that all the things that have been put right on the SX2 are not going to be given to the people that bought the original SX.
BUT, As for replacing the outdrives on the CAT, I don't know. I'm sure if you contacted Schumacher then they may have replaced them once they saw the outdrive you broke. Personally I can't remember anyone I talked to having been given a brand new upgraded set due to breaking one. But that may just be the people I spoke to.

But I thought that the outdrive problem was the way that the driveshaft hit the cups when the suspension was compressed hard. So Schumacher told people how to space the shocks so that it didn't happen.

Durango have done the same with the blog spots on how to build the CVD's.

Personally my axle pins have been ok since I bought the DEX. Yes, I have the 2mm ones in now, but the originals are still in my pitbox. But I still have the 1.5mm ones on the prop axles. :)...even though one went through my LiPo due to me not re-building it properly. But I still have the 1.5mm pins in the prop. So I trust that now I have re-built them properly, they will stay put. :)