RRCI Short Course Summer Shootout [Archive]

graveltrap

29-05-2010, 11:51 AM

Taken from Radio Race Car International (http://www.radioracecar.com/)

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Due to the sad news that the ProLine Dirt Arena is closing, RRCi has decided to move the Short Course Summer shootout to the Coventry Model Car Club’s outdoor Dirt Track on the 24th and 25th of July.
Open Practice will start at 10am on the Saturday, with full on shoulder to shoulder racing from 8am on the Sunday!

Space for camping, a BBQ and ‘other entertainment’ will be available for those travelling to the event, and for further information and to pre-book click here (http://cmcc.phpbbhosts.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=5f351488f65e5638dea076cd46ad0f43), or see the August issue of RRCi (out the first week in July!)

This is designed to be a fun event and a chance for all UK fans of Short Course to meet, race and push the class forward. We can then hopefully run a regular series in 2011 across the UK. Every major release of 2WD and 4WD Short Course Truck will be there, alongside the RRCi contributor team, manufacturer and distributor support, a track-side shop (and a few familiar faces from within the industry joining in the racing!)

SC related Prizes and trophies will be presented to the winners, as well as a charity raffle to give everyone the opportunity to walk away with a SC goodie of some sort!

See you there, to get down and dirty!

MP

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Speedy Steve RRCi

04-06-2010, 08:44 PM

65 views and no one wants to reply?

chris brown

04-06-2010, 10:41 PM

What are the rules?

graveltrap

05-06-2010, 08:26 AM

To have some fun!! ;)

The meeting is open to all electric SC Trucks, 2WD or 4WD, Stock and modified. The only limitations are:

True SC wheels and tyres must be used
SC Bodyshells only*
6 Cell NimH or 2Cell LiPo

*Extreme mutilation of shells to alleviate 'parachuting' will not be allowed, though 'trimming' and 'minimal' body mods will be! (you were warned!)

No motor limit applies (as most SC fans know, power does really corrupt!).

Saturday: Practice from 9AM, Free overnight camping, and one of CMCC's famous BBQ's

Sunday: 8.00AM booking in, 8.30AM for drivers briefing, racing commences from 9AM

Link (http://www.radioracecar.com/article.aspx?a=5118)

plod

05-06-2010, 07:24 PM

I would like to know what "extreme mutilation" classes as :eh?:

jayst

05-06-2010, 11:11 PM

as bad as mine si ???? :p

graveltrap

06-06-2010, 09:17 AM

Jay you have a shiny new shell that you can use!! ;) :p

I'm not sure TBH, it's something the Pete mentioned when I was at the track on Friday, I do agree we need a little more clarification on the matter so I will forward the question to the RRCI crew!

I know we won't want to stop anyone from racing this is about having a giggle as much as anything else! :woot:

twisty

10-06-2010, 07:36 PM

Looks like 6-8+ of us will be coming from The Nook :thumbsup:
Nice one RRCi for trying this out,it`s a great fun class of RC racing ;)

cheers,
T.

graveltrap

11-06-2010, 10:52 AM

:thumbsup: Good to hear!!

seawolf 410

14-06-2010, 01:38 PM

:thumbsup: Ewans Maverick strada sc will be there to make up the numbers!!!!:blush:

taz5311

28-06-2010, 11:15 PM

Should be a good event, will certainly be there.

toooldskool

03-07-2010, 09:39 PM

Hi
Can't make Saturday but would like to do Sunday -
Where can I find an entry form?
Clive

graveltrap

04-07-2010, 03:50 PM

As far as I'm aware it's going to be booking in on the day.

We will fit number of heats and finals to the number of entrants, we are looking at 6 minute heats and multi legged extended finals (8 to 10 minutes) but this will be down to drivers on the day.

jayst

04-07-2010, 04:30 PM

use my new shell on the dirt . mmm i may have a think about :confused:

graveltrap

04-07-2010, 05:05 PM

I'm sure it will be fine matey....*honest* ;)

wezzer

15-07-2010, 08:45 AM

Hi
can someone please give me an adress to book in on for this as i have had several customers want to come but not just book in on the day as its a bit of a distance for them !!! :thumbsup:
a link would be ace :)
thanks

graveltrap

15-07-2010, 06:56 PM

Not really sure what you want wezzer, club website is www.cmcc-online.com (http://www.cmcc-online.com) and contains details of the location.

Track is open for Short Course based shenanigans on Saturday for a bit of fun and the racing business happens on the Sunday :thumbsup:

As previously mentioned, booking in is on the day, so I have no idea on numbers, Mad Pete (RRCi) may have a bit more info...I'll try and get hold of him when I get a mo.

Hoping to try a new track layout on the Dirt this weekend, not much has changed, just enough to make it interesting ;)

chris brown

15-07-2010, 08:48 PM

Hi.
What surface is the track?
What tyres have people found to work well?

Chris.

mk2kompressor

15-07-2010, 11:31 PM

I think it will be the mud track(hard packed)
used maxxis soft with soft inner foams for the last shoot on my blitz

mk2kompressor

15-07-2010, 11:39 PM

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15179&stc=1&d=1279237139

wezzer

16-07-2010, 08:34 AM

Mark A

16-07-2010, 09:05 AM

follow this link guys to our forum, click on pre booking, there you will find the Short Course Shoot out Pre-booking section.
http://cmcc.phpbbhosts.co.uk/index.php
you may need to register to the forum first.

or you can post you details on here as follows
Name
BRCA No.
Frequency
Class
PT no.

we will be taking booking in on the day also

Dude

wezzer

16-07-2010, 09:46 AM

coolio :thumbsup: thanks!!

graveltrap

16-07-2010, 08:17 PM

Or PM me the details and I'll make sure they are added to the thread on the CMCC forum and guaranteed a race place. I really don't think there will be any issues with numbers (are there actually 120 people racing SCT in the UK?), but you never know.

Now to rebuild my SC10...

russmini

18-07-2010, 08:28 AM

I really fancy this, but skint and my SC10 has only ever been a fun toy, so i would need new rear tyres... :(
Might pop down for a look though.

graveltrap

18-07-2010, 10:49 AM

Bring the truck with you, I've got a set of rears (bowties) that you can try...

Track layout is done, it's a little tighter in places than it used to be, but flows just as well :)

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

20-07-2010, 04:14 PM

Will there be anyone selling sc10 spares/tyres there? I wanna come but the likelyhood of me lasting 2 whole days without breaking summit is slim-to-none, and my entire spares collection consists of one wishbone :(

Also would sc10 kit tyres be any good? Ive never driven this track.

Fanks guys.

:thumbsup:
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ConceptRacing

20-07-2010, 04:41 PM

I am hoping to have some spares, wheels and tires with me on Sunday, hopefully I will have what you need, see you all on Sunday

graveltrap

20-07-2010, 06:56 PM

SC10 tyres work just fine on the front end, the rear how ever is a different story ;) :P

wezzer

21-07-2010, 08:49 AM

looking forward to this,,,, tyres are going to be a bit of trial and error though ;) but it should be a blast

telboy

21-07-2010, 08:51 PM

looking forward to this,,,, tyres are going to be a bit of trial and error though ;) but it should be a blast

I would be too, but I've not got a SC truck anymore. someone took it away from me.:cry:

:p

wezzer

22-07-2010, 08:26 AM

are you saying that with all your contacts tel you cant borrow one ???? i had to borow one lol

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

22-07-2010, 09:36 AM

Think Im gonna come up Sat and bring Palace Shambles. Is there any power available or is it generators?
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mark christopher

22-07-2010, 09:58 AM

Think I'm off on Sunday. Tell u took cash :confused:

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

22-07-2010, 02:26 PM

Are we going to resurrect the old battle then Mark? :thumbsup:

Looks like team Shambles 'truck division' will be in attendance. Complete with 'in-truck' video recording.

Looking forward to this one, I hope you booked the sushine.:p
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graveltrap

22-07-2010, 06:38 PM

No power on site, you'll need a generator or a big 12VDC supply!

mark christopher

22-07-2010, 07:48 PM

telboy

22-07-2010, 10:18 PM

Think I'm off on Sunday. Tell u took cash :confused:

Not you Mark :), My other one.

mark christopher

22-07-2010, 10:24 PM

Not you Mark :), My other one.

Ah ok. Wat was ur other one?

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

23-07-2010, 09:14 AM

Silly question, will there be an 'open' heat for buggies? had a few peeps from our end ask, they haven't seen the light and bought a truck yet :thumbdown:
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Mark A

23-07-2010, 12:21 PM

We have limited 240volt supply but if someone needs to charge a 12v we could find a spare socket.
Hi Captain What buggy's are we talking and how many?

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

23-07-2010, 12:45 PM

There are 2 guys from our club asking about buggies.
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antnee

23-07-2010, 12:58 PM

Whoop! This will be epic!

Quick Q, are we running on the rule of rubbing is racing?

ConceptRacing

23-07-2010, 04:51 PM

Plenty of SC10 and Blitz spares will be available on the day, Loads of wheels and tires, should be able to find the right set up for the Dirt at Coventry for you all, see you all on Sunday morning.

RRCi.madpete

23-07-2010, 05:42 PM

Hi guys, yes rubbing is allowed, knocking someone into the next field isn't! May even run a yellow and red card system :p

As for prizes, theres a SC8, Traxxas VXL/10th, Loads of Short Course Traxxas clothing, Wheels and tyres from HPI, JConcepts goodies, and whatever Wezza brings from CML!

+ Radshape have hand made us three very cool trophies and are in attendance, these guy's make the chassis for the Morgan Aero 8 so you can imagine how good the trophies are!

Mark is aiming on getting the gates open from 9ish onwards tomorrow for practice, anyone camping can get set up and a BBQ n Beer session is booked for later on Sat :)

Get yourselves down for some 'SC Shenanigans' at Baginton (one G allegedly!)

bestones

mp

:drool:

mk2kompressor

23-07-2010, 05:44 PM

Blitz ready to go:thumbsup:
cant wait for the relaxing racing after the week ive had:lol:

RRCi.madpete

23-07-2010, 05:47 PM

PS: as for buggies and even 2WD Trucks, if enough numbers turn up to put on a heat...cool and dandy...i'm up for that!

It's as much about seeing the trucks racing as 'actually racing them' so even if you don't have a SC come and watch them in action!!

bestones

mp

RRCi.madpete

23-07-2010, 05:49 PM

Blitz ready to go:thumbsup:
cant wait for the relaxing racing after the week ive had:lol:

Me Three, this is gonna be a hoot....cant wait...see ya AM dude!

Petros Petros Gali

1rcdad

23-07-2010, 06:52 PM

Yep really looking forward to a good weekend

graveltrap

23-07-2010, 07:26 PM

It's going to be right good fun!!

reg

24-07-2010, 04:00 AM

i hope there is going to be a buggy heat as i would love to take my duwongo up the dirt track:thumbsup:

reg

24-07-2010, 04:07 AM

holy crap,iv just looked at some "VT shutinnnnnnnnggggggggg".........i think i might need a bigger pinion:woot:

reg

24-07-2010, 06:17 AM

will anyone be running the HPI mini trophy on sunday,i know the not on sale to the public yet:cry:

RRCi.madpete

24-07-2010, 07:04 AM

We have one inbound from HPI, but not in time for this event...:( it's featured in depth in the news section of the next mag followed by a 2 stage review, first vanilla, then with hop ups :)...

This truck rocks, it mixes everything I love about RC, realism and performance...

There will be other 1/12th sized SC in attendance though (fashioned from the finest green) ;), and maybe even racing against the 'Big Boy's'...

See ya there and PS heres the addy:

Coventry Model Car Club
Trinity Guild Rugby Club
latitude: 52°22'23.71"N
Longitude: 1°29'14.98"W
Rowley Road
Baginton
Coventry
CV8 3AL
:thumbsup:

RRCi.madpete

24-07-2010, 07:09 AM

http://www.youtube.com/profile?gl=GB&user=RRCiweb#p/f/8/HVP7u-N9p48

and theres...

http://www.youtube.com/profile?gl=GB&user=RRCiweb#p/f/6/qtrC_cePd_k

just to get you in the mood!

bestones

mp

RRCi.madpete

24-07-2010, 07:49 AM

I would be too, but I've not got a SC truck anymore. someone took it away from me.:cry:

:p

'Someone' will lend you one to use on the day...if you wanna race :p

mp

reg

24-07-2010, 10:35 AM

'Someone' will lend you one to use on the day...if you wanna race :p

mp

me me me me lend me one pweeezzzzzzzzz:woot:

mk2kompressor

24-07-2010, 12:01 PM

Good turnout so far :)

Gaz_Stanton

24-07-2010, 02:44 PM

What sort of time will the track be open until tonight?

mk2kompressor

24-07-2010, 04:37 PM

It's open until you can't see the cars on the track ;)

graveltrap

24-07-2010, 09:09 PM

Good fun today!! Dusty track surface was challenging at times ;)

antnee

25-07-2010, 06:54 PM

WOW, not long been back, but what a fantastic weekend!!

Best weekend of racing I've ever had, also Coventry is my new favourite track (dirt and astro!)

HUGE well done and thanks to the RRCI and CMCC guys for a well run meeting.

Roll on the next one!

P.S, will the results be posted online anywhere?

RRCi.madpete

25-07-2010, 07:06 PM

Two words...hell yeah!

Will post full results on RRCi website, and a 6 page race report in mag...

More of the same in a month or so?

Bestones

Mp

graveltrap

25-07-2010, 07:07 PM

First off I want to thank everyone that made there way to the CMCC track, I really hope everyone enjoyed the racing, I know I did!

40 Trucks exceeded my expectations by a long way :thumbsup: Lets hope this is just a small beginning for what is a truly fun class.

Cheers all!

mk2kompressor

25-07-2010, 07:33 PM

Just on the come down, wish we were still there :p
had an awesome time with my first real offroad race, massive thank to MR short course and all at cmcc :)

I'll be back for more dusty boogers and sc truck mayhem next time:lol::thumbsup:

mark christopher

25-07-2010, 07:39 PM

two words "bloody brilliant" more.......
sorry captain, maybe next time..... and 10 in an A final please!!!!! with 4wd seperate to 2wd.

antnee

25-07-2010, 08:03 PM

Yeah, chuck slash's in with everyone else, and separate 2 and 4wd

taz5311

26-07-2010, 08:03 AM

What an brilliant weekend, (even if it did kill my blitz).
My thanks to all involved in organising the meet, it was well run and good fun.
I would just like to thank Madpete and all at CMCC on behalf of the National Gulf Veterans & Families Association for the very kind donation.

Many thanks and can't wait for the next one.

Stef

wezzer

26-07-2010, 08:25 AM

awesome day ,,, thanks to everyone involved ! can you post a link up pete ( once you have recovered) to all the results please :thumbsup:

RRCi.madpete

26-07-2010, 09:05 AM

Wez, I will send you a brief race report for your website...

Same again soon?

Pete

Mark A

26-07-2010, 09:06 AM

great weekend,
Thanks to all the sponsors and Madpete for organising the event and thanks to all the drivers for supporting the event.
Can't wait to do it again, hopefully with my own truck instead of beat up Speedy Steves SC cheers mate.

wezzer

26-07-2010, 09:20 AM

Same again soon?

DEFFO

antnee

26-07-2010, 09:53 AM

Same again soon?

DEFFO

What he said!

hf integrale

26-07-2010, 11:17 AM

Had a great day yesterday..as said before a realy big thanks to everyone involved in a great event.can't wait til the next one.met some fantastic people and and had some realy cool relaxed racing...all you none sc ers don't know what your missing....cheers justin

1rcdad

26-07-2010, 11:29 AM

Great weekend,many thanks to all,looking forward to the next time,it really put the fun back into race meetings.

twisty

26-07-2010, 11:34 AM

Greets.

I would just like to add my thanks to the RRCi team and the CMCC crew who organised and hosted a ground breaking meeting for Short Course Trucks in the UK :thumbsup:

I havn`t heard so much laughter at a big meeting for ages,the friendly atmosphere really made for a top weekend.
The racing couldn`t of been any closer,with "rubbing" or "light contact" being aloud,indeed encouraged :woot: after all,these are not open wheel racers which require serious precision driving.
SCT`s are fitted with both front and rear bumpers too,meaning the wheels don`t hook up when you get cars together[the benefits of closed wheel racing] and bumpers alow slight nudging without causing any damage,which can help with lapping back markers who refuse to move offline ;)

We found the CMCC track really fun to drive with it`s many different levels,jumps,mixed surfaces and flowing corners etc etc,i really struggled with the jumps,but i was definately not alone on that one :lol:

Constructive critisism would be that the even at a disadvantage the Slashes should not of been segregated into thier own class,all the 2WD SCT`s should of been run in the same class together regardless of manufacturer.Due to the small numbers of 4x4 SCT`s,i agree an "outlaw class" should be run,to include everything else,even Dez with his noisy/smelly/unreliable nitro thingy,untill such time as they have sufficiant numbers to make thier own full heats. :p Dez :)
A subsidised control tyre would also be a great leveler with any profits from the chosen tyre manufacturer going to charity would be a great help and encourage new and seasoned racers into taking part,without the fear of massive escalating costs due to tyre wars.

Finally for now,YES we would definately be up for another meeting very soon and finishing off with a big thanks to those manufacturers who sponsored the RRCi SC Shootout and all the drivers/helpers and supporters who attended,you made it a very memorable meeting,may there be many others in the future.

BR,
Simon F

reg

26-07-2010, 12:10 PM

as has already been said,the most fun iv had for a long time,thanks Captain Shambles for the lift(this was the reason you finished 2nd:p)........thanks to all involved..........its the first time iv raced an SCT,it was awsome fun,i just need to make up my mind which one to get now:lol:....thanks to race control for alowing me and Ant(thanks mate for letting me run someone elses truck with you:thumbsup:) the time to change everything in between heats to run the same truck:thumbsup:................

Speedy Steve RRCi

26-07-2010, 01:16 PM

Glad to see everyone enjoyed the weekend i to have to thank everyone who help it run smoothly.

RRCi.madpete

26-07-2010, 02:35 PM

mk2kompressor

26-07-2010, 02:43 PM

our piccies, sorry for the b&w ones, my pit bitch couldnt work the camera properly:lol::p:thumbsup:

me and mr sc himself

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threadlock your slipper nuts!

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i know i promised pete but the comedy wheel still spinning turtle is too good not to share

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jayce with some arty shots

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mk2kompressor

26-07-2010, 02:46 PM

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mk2kompressor

26-07-2010, 02:51 PM

Bleeding Edge Racing Hotel :woot:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o130/mk2kompressor/P1020515.jpg

only problem is i packed the tent away with my toothbrush and pit spray still inside:blush:

antnee

26-07-2010, 03:36 PM

http://oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=397436#post397436
:thumbsup:

mark christopher

26-07-2010, 03:43 PM

Thanks for all the positive comments guys!

The next one will as suggest throw all the trucks in one big melting pot to slug it out...

The control tyre thing would be good if we can get the support of a manufacturer or four... (you listening out there in RC land?), this would work to level the playing field a little and share the grip out to so to speak!

Maybe we run 5 rounds over the next 12 months and use a different tyre for each to give all the companies who could offer a tyre an equal shot?

1: Hot Bodies on Dirt
2: Kourse King on the All weather
3: J Concepts on Dirt
4: HPI on Dirt
5: ProLine On Dirt

Waddaya think guys?

bestones, as ever

mp
;)

Got to say I'm not a fan of the control tyre. My reason. I watched talked and bought some tyre the fast lads were using now I instantly went quicker. And won both legs of the B. My tyres have very little wear and I reckon at least another full meeting. From them. If not two. Control tyre would mean I need to buy a set per round. Upping my costs. That would leave me out of this fun class.
I also used kit fronts so how would that work.

twisty

26-07-2010, 04:06 PM

Got to say I'm not a fan of the control tyre. My reason. I watched talked and bought some tyre the fast lads were using now I instantly went quicker. And won both legs of the B. My tyres have very little wear and I reckon at least another full meeting. From them. If not two. Control tyre would mean I need to buy a set per round. Upping my costs. That would leave me out of this fun class.
I also used kit fronts so how would that work.

Hi Mark,

how about if it was just a pair of rears[for the 2WD class] at a special price for entrants? [subsidised by manufacturers]
The idea is to level the field and keep the cost down.
As a quite experianced racer in other classes,i was very shocked to see how many racers had bought lots and lots of different types of tyres already,that certainly would put off newbies and seasoned racers alike if they thought they HAD to buy all these compounds/tread patterns just to be competative.
There is no doubt SCT`s are a fun class,but if it gets too serious with tyre wars,that will kill it off like it has in many other new classes.
You have to remember,as soon as an interesting class of racing emerges,the manufactuers jump in with loads of hop up options to give drivers the edge and make themselves more money which not everyone has,this turns out to be detremental to the whole thing in the end.

IMO one of the reasons 1/10 offroad has worked really well for years because there is a fairly small amount of tyre choice,people tend to go with what they know works,when loads of manufacturers start vying[sp] for your hard earned,it confuses things and people tend to waste more money because of misinformation and hype.

These are just my opinions,feel free to put your own in and disagree with them if you like,it`s all good feedback for everyone involved or is thinking about these things.

cheers,
S.

twisty

26-07-2010, 04:08 PM

Cool piccys BTW ^^^^ :)

1rcdad

26-07-2010, 04:54 PM

I like the idea of a control tyre but it needs to be ready mounted to remove the multiple options of tyre inserts,and there's the rub not all use industry standard 12mm wheel hexes,so people will end up with a control tyre,but buy 4 sets with different inserts,so it becomes costlier than leaving tyres as free choice, providing on sale in this country.

antnee

26-07-2010, 06:16 PM

Give it a few meetings and the best tyre will have emerged so a control tyre won't be needed

mark christopher

26-07-2010, 06:20 PM

Hi Mark,

how about if it was just a pair of rears[for the 2WD class] at a special price for entrants? [subsidised by manufacturers]
The idea is to level the field and keep the cost down.
As a quite experianced racer in other classes,i was very shocked to see how many racers had bought lots and lots of different types of tyres already,that certainly would put off newbies and seasoned racers alike if they thought they HAD to buy all these compounds/tread patterns just to be competative.
There is no doubt SCT`s are a fun class,but if it gets too serious with tyre wars,that will kill it off like it has in many other new classes.
You have to remember,as soon as an interesting class of racing emerges,the manufactuers jump in with loads of hop up options to give drivers the edge and make themselves more money which not everyone has,this turns out to be detremental to the whole thing in the end.

IMO one of the reasons 1/10 offroad has worked really well for years because there is a fairly small amount of tyre choice,people tend to go with what they know works,when loads of manufacturers start vying[sp] for your hard earned,it confuses things and people tend to waste more money because of misinformation and hype.

These are just my opinions,feel free to put your own in and disagree with them if you like,it`s all good feedback for everyone involved or is thinking about these things.

cheers,
S.

I like the idea of a control tyre but it needs to be ready mounted to remove the multiple options of tyre inserts,and there's the rub not all use industry standard 12mm wheel hexes,so people will end up with a control tyre,but buy 4 sets with different inserts,so it becomes costlier than leaving tyres as free choice, providing on sale in this country.
are we missing the point?
im sure im like more than 70% that entered in the fact that i did it for fun, not to win.
as i said kit tyres did not work well, i borrowed some goosebumps but they still felt odd, got some hpi attk tyres and fitted them and the kit inserts to some rear wheels, job done, to top it all i won a pair in the prize giving. i now know they work round there wit hthe set up on my truck. im more than happy to race again as i have them, the class needs miminal rules and if your going to spec control tyres, control inserts your creating rules that need policing, and rules take away the fun!

im happy with what i had on as im sure are many others, now if tony truman had proline XYZ on im not going to buy some just because i think it will make me beat him.........
the other problem is pick the wrong tyre because its the best deal and it does not work you have instantly killed the class

my personal view, it was spot on as it was.:thumbsup: needs no more rules, just add dates.

mk2kompressor

26-07-2010, 06:30 PM

i think the only reason so many people bought tyres on the day is the fact
no one really knew what worked, most that showed up still had the kit rubber fitted.
maybe a price limit to tyres would be better, any insert/wheel combo allowed?

we need a date for the next one:drool:

twisty

26-07-2010, 06:34 PM

I`m fine with no rules :thumbsup: Whens the next one then?

antnee

26-07-2010, 06:48 PM

What would people think to mass starts in qualifying?

mk2kompressor

26-07-2010, 06:51 PM

would be great if they come out anything like the finals :)

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o130/mk2kompressor/P1020505.jpg

graveltrap

26-07-2010, 07:28 PM

Series, yes please!! 4 from 5 rounds to count sounds about right to me at this point in time. Extended 2 legged finals of 7 or 8 minutes seemed to work pretty well ;)

Yes the slashes should be run with the other 2wd's in future!

4wd's should of course be run as a separate class, but there is a problem with numbers right now, I think there where just 3 or 4 out of the 40 entrants!

No to a control tyre, it's to limiting at this point in time especially with the various surfaces available for racing on in the UK.

More trophies! 1st, 2nd and 3rd for all finals would be good! A better pre-booking system would help here!

I'd leave the rules fairly simple, Tyres must be for a SCT maximum outer bead 2.2", maximum inner bead 3.0", 2 cell Lipo or 6 cell Nimh, and a full SC truck body shell that covers all 4 wheels.

Job done, massive fun on demand :)

mbrayf

26-07-2010, 07:41 PM

First off road meeting in 15 years and have not stopped smiling since.... :lol:

More of the same please...:thumbsup:

Gaz_Stanton

26-07-2010, 07:45 PM

Big thanks to all that made it happen. Great fun! :thumbsup:

Was good to get some dirt track running in and enjoyed attacking Dez's SC8 with the B4! :lol:

Think the format worked well. Only tweak I would do is to put all 2wd SC's together and 4wd separate. No need for a control tyre as you don't get the grip with an SC to wear them out in one run.

Speedy Steve RRCi

26-07-2010, 08:17 PM

The only thing i can see with a lot of trophy's is we'd have to pre book everyone and not take anyone on the day or only just a few so we knew numbers

mark christopher

26-07-2010, 08:22 PM

to be fair id rather have a prize than a trophy!!

ConceptRacing

26-07-2010, 08:22 PM

That to me was the best moment of the day, watching a B4 attacking an SC8 and winning!! very brave of Dez to take it on, one of the best days racing i have been to, everyone seem so chilled out and having loads of fun, I would love to see more of this happening, winter series sounds like a good idea.

graveltrap

26-07-2010, 08:43 PM

Watching the B4 going round has given me some ideas ;) It seemed to cope pretty well on the track especially considering the worn state that it is in atm. It handled the doubles with ease :)

Now if the track had been fresh from it's yearly work over...

Now back on topic...

kryten

26-07-2010, 08:52 PM

our piccies, sorry for the b&w ones, my pit bitch couldnt work the camera properly:lol::p:thumbsup:

I thought they looked b/w,but put it down to the fact it was sooooo sunny and making the screen look odd!(maybe a mild sunstroke too,damn it was hot. :p)

It was a great weekend,even tho i never raced. No more pit bitch for me....next time i'm racing too! Some great racing and a hell of a laugh to boot.

The B4/SC8 battles were immense fun to watch. :D

Captain-Codpiece-The-2nd

26-07-2010, 09:46 PM

What can I say, awesome meeting! Never before have I heard an A final rostrum laughing during racing, that just about sums it up. Thanks to everyone involved for putting it on. I will deffo be at the next one, I gotta beat that damn dremel :cry:

Personally im not fussed about tyres, I just think there should be clear 2wd and 4wd classes thats all.

Well done guys, lets push this awesoem class forward!
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plod

27-07-2010, 07:26 AM

Let's not lose the impetus(sp?) and have another sc meeting asap and keep driving the class forward.

wezzer

27-07-2010, 08:30 AM

meeting was very cool,, so much fun!
i dont necessarily agree that we should run them on 8th tracks though ! i thought these are short course trucks not massive course truck lol
i thought the cov track was an ideal size for it ,not to big ( i think its a relatively small 8th track isn't it ? ) and plenty of laps! longer double legged finals are the future ( bumps ups would be ace too !! ) some tracks are just too big and with out shortening it would make the racing to far spread out and then the " close racing " that these trucks are designed for would be lost.
just my tupence worth,:thumbsup:

panch

27-07-2010, 10:26 AM

Sounds like a good day was had by all... guuted I missed it but had the final round of the 2wd midwest regional to contend with...

I would definatley be another interested in running if you put another one / series on :thumbsup:

Sorry to go off topic, but its sort of relevant... Guys FYI there is another Short course meeting happening in sept at Adur for those of you that are local to it or dont mind travelling...

Anyway back to topic...stick me down for the next one :thumbsup:

mark christopher

27-07-2010, 10:43 AM

wezzer

27-07-2010, 11:11 AM

mass starts, thats the answer.
nope thats a medium to small rally x track, think slough or somewhere like that is a lot bigger... could be mistaken though, not been down there for a while lol

Mark A

27-07-2010, 11:57 AM

Coventry is a small to medium 1/8 track, we have worked hard to get the lap times up for Rally x and truggy but on the other hand it's not to big for short course, i really enjoyed the day racing and running the meeting.
Thanks for all the comments, lots of ideas to consider for next time, can only get better and still kept the fun element.

wezzer

27-07-2010, 12:40 PM

i wasnt knocking it mark ;-) its a very cool track and absolutly awesome for short course, its very cool !!!!!!:thumbsup:

mark christopher

27-07-2010, 01:19 PM

And I was saying it was perfect I just could not spell coventry, I just figured coventry was a big track to the ones i been too LOL

deepdale11

27-07-2010, 07:57 PM

Any pictures of the day???

RRCi.madpete

28-07-2010, 08:45 AM

Ahhh! the old net v print debate!, I will be publishing a 6 page report in the October issue (out Sept!), but will in the mean time post a selection of the pics on here once i've a 5min window or 3!!

best regards as ever

mp

PS: looks like a 5 round RRCi series is a go...just need 1 track up north, one down south and 1 'other' venues in the middle of the UK...suggestions please! :)

It will start at Cov and Finish at Cov... you fancy that? :)

reg

28-07-2010, 09:19 AM

Ahhh! the old net v print debate!, I will be publishing a 6 page report in the October issue (out Sept!)

how cool will that be,all our ugly mugs in the best rc mag in the world:thumbsup:

taz5311

28-07-2010, 09:22 AM

How about stotfold in bedfordshire? just off the A1 I'm off there tonight so can ask if they can host a round?

mark christopher

28-07-2010, 09:24 AM

Astro or dirt.......

1rcdad

28-07-2010, 09:40 AM

how about the new 1/8th scale track in Wakefield,sounds really good,hopefully will be going up on thursday night.

b4jackson

28-07-2010, 10:35 AM

Hi all.
I'm a new member at Coventry but couldn't make it to the Short Course shootout, enjoyed reading the thread though.

I drive a B4 & have it relatively sorted for the astro with blue front springs, silver rear. Shuey yellow spikes rear, staggers on the front but I tested on the dirt track last night & it's all over the place, this was with dirt hawgs on the front & road hawgs on the rear.

I noticed on this thread someone ran a B4 at the weekend, any idea what tyres work on the dirt track.

I'm guessing I might need to loosen my slipper too & maybe softer springs ???

Rgds

_sleigh_

28-07-2010, 11:24 AM

I'd probably suggest trying some Pro-Line Bow-Ties on the rear with a rib up front. I'm not 100% familiar with the surface of the Coventry "dirt" track, as to how rutted/stoney it gets, but the above would be a good starting point.

mark christopher

28-07-2010, 11:29 AM

how about the new 1/8th scale track in Wakefield,sounds really good,hopefully will be going up on thursday night.

One of options were looking into. Depends of u want Astro or dirt for the northern one .

Mark A

28-07-2010, 12:23 PM

Wezzer no probs mate. i,ve race on some really small tracks this year and compared to them Cov is big.

1rcdad

28-07-2010, 12:49 PM

I would say stick to dirt tracks,its what they were designed to run on,also saves the cost of finding tyres to work on astro surface.

Gaz_Stanton

28-07-2010, 01:00 PM

I tested on the dirt track last night & it's all over the place, this was with dirt hawgs on the front & road hawgs on the rear.

I noticed on this thread someone ran a B4 at the weekend, any idea what tyres work on the dirt track.

I was the one running the B4 at the weekend. Phil is spot on as I used Pro-Line Bow-Ties on the rear with Pro-Line ribs up front. M3 compound all round. The Bow-ties were great as I ran them on the SC10 too and actually had problems keeping the front end on the ground on the straight!
Set-up wise I would definitely ditch the blue springs on the dirt. I ran silver all round but green rears would be a tad easier to drive.
As for the rest of the setup check out the Turin/Collegno setups on the CML website as the Coventry dirt track is similar to how that track cut up.

antnee

28-07-2010, 03:02 PM

In my opinion, it should be dirt tracks throughout the series

reg

28-07-2010, 03:09 PM

In my opinion, it should be dirt tracks throughout the series

you would its not you truck:woot:

hf integrale

28-07-2010, 04:10 PM

Only a suggestion what about a round on the Stoke on Trent
astro track(used on the west mids series)if you need a track in the middle of the country.
I'm going to see the guys who run the track to see if they would be interested
in hosting a one of short course event if I orginised it...that's if any bodys interested...try to do it along the lines of the fantasic coventry event.charity raffle and so on

igbandy

28-07-2010, 05:32 PM

Great weekend everyone, was great to actually race my SC10 after owning it since release.

A race series sounds like a great plan.

Think you will find a few more 4wd`s being bought soon as well :wub

twisty

28-07-2010, 08:37 PM

Well,you would be absolutely welcome to run a meeting at The Nook[i`m sure Gresty would be OK with it],it is astro,but we have been inspired and are talking about some other types of surfaces and extra jumps for the SCT`s,maybe an open crossover.

Plus there is a nice field to camp in and a cozy pub onsite :)
Good motorway access too.

graveltrap

28-07-2010, 08:40 PM

PS: looks like a 5 round RRCi series is a go...just need 1 track up north, one down south and 1 'other' venues in the middle of the UK...suggestions please!

Good news indeed :thumbsup:

twisty

28-07-2010, 08:51 PM

PS,
I have been racing my Slash against the 1/8 nitro lads at The Nook for the last 8 months on stock tyres,i think pretty much anything will work on astro,it`s much more grippy in the dry and about as slippy as clay in the wet,but obviously loads cleaner.
Anyway,we threw the tyre thing out the window didn`t we :p :thumbsup:

b4jackson

28-07-2010, 09:11 PM

I was the one running the B4 at the weekend. Phil is spot on as I used Pro-Line Bow-Ties on the rear with Pro-Line ribs up front. M3 compound all round. The Bow-ties were great as I ran them on the SC10 too and actually had problems keeping the front end on the ground on the straight!
Set-up wise I would definitely ditch the blue springs on the dirt. I ran silver all round but green rears would be a tad easier to drive.
As for the rest of the setup check out the Turin/Collegno setups on the CML website as the Coventry dirt track is similar to how that track cut up.
Thanks Gaz/Phil I'll give 'em a go & experiment with the springs.
Rgds
Ben

Frecklychimp

29-07-2010, 10:23 AM

Hi Chaps,

have been keeping an eye on this thread to guage interest in short course in UK.

We are willing to put an event on if you guys are interested in racing at our venue, really gutted we couldn't make it at the weekend but there are 9 of us racing regular short course and its rapidly growing.

We are A1 racing club, based alongside the A1 near Grantham in Lincolnshire,

We have an astroturf track with some paved and dirt sections for the short course to run on.

We have Strikes and SC10's running on kit tyres and they seem to work very well on the surfaces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_7z1q0yxtU

the track has had some more sections put in since this vid.

I was thinking of putting an event on August bank holiday weekend for short course if we can get interest then it will happen.

Cheers, Mark.

reg

29-07-2010, 02:23 PM

Hi Mark,i helped build the first track there many years ago:woot:.....i hope they do use it coz its only down the road from me and some fellow racers:thumbsup:

ps what are the rules for tuesday nights?

Neil Skull

29-07-2010, 07:56 PM

I really cant get into Short course so it saddens me to say that due to popular demand Kyosho Uk have ordered some SC-R trucks. Thats the competition kit version short course that Tebo and co are running.

Please don't order one and expect me to get excited. I would rather stick a parachute on my buggy.:p

deepdale11

29-07-2010, 08:43 PM

mk2kompressor

29-07-2010, 08:49 PM

Frecklychimp

29-07-2010, 10:00 PM

Sounds good to me and its not far away!!! didn't know you were there!

That has been a problem that has been noticed so we are now trying to get word out and hold some big meetings to attract drivers and get some good use from the track.

Hi Reg, atm there are no rules with the short course class, we originally were going to run out of the box rtr for the indoor winter club meetings but since we all got cheapy Losi's and the motors etc have been dying its pretty much open.

We have been playing with brushless etc, with the grip on the astroturf the front of the trucks needs weighting to get steering!

We want to attract 1/10th buggies too so if you are interested in running buggies or short course then you are more than welcome... of course 1/8th carries on as usual with the regulars.

The sct's are so much fun that we are really keen to be involved and help the scene grow, as commented earlier we have noticed that the rostrum is alive with laughter as there is more body rubbing noise from the track!

I'm pushing for a seperate dirt track on our spare land for the sct's and 1/10th for dry weather so we can accomodate more racing.

Cheers for the comments chaps, i would love to put on a Short Course meeting and invite you all down to our track.

Mark.