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Belsten
04-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Hey you guys, hows it going ?

ashleyb4
04-08-2007, 05:11 PM
Hi

Welcome to the world of oOple.

Alot of the members are at southport national at the moment so its quiet quiet about. But if you have any questions feel free to ask we will do our best to answer them as well as we can.

hope to see you about.

Ashley.

Belsten
04-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi, thanks for your reply, been out of racing proper for some years now and am well and truly out of touch

DCM
04-08-2007, 05:53 PM
is that Belsten of the Bell End variety, brother of Pete??

Belsten
04-08-2007, 08:04 PM
How rude ! Bell end variety ? Yes, the one and only albeit that is a term I was not referred to to my face whilst I was racing although i have no doubt its my pet name being as popular as I was !!! Yes I have a brother too

DCM
04-08-2007, 09:11 PM
How is Pete, Dave, is he still trying to drive round in cars fit for restoration, and still in Magor?

Belsten
04-08-2007, 10:37 PM
yeah he is good thanks and yeah he aint changed a whole bunch, who are you ? He is getting back in to racing and im sure would appreciate the support as its been some time now !!!

GRIFF55
04-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Hey Dave, u made it onto oople!! Hows the tamiya going?

DCM
04-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Hey Dave, it's Steve Rich (now Curtis-Rich), PM me and I will give me moby number over for Pete, where is he living now? And where are you?

Belsten
05-08-2007, 10:44 AM
Hi Steve, hi Andy

Hows it going ? Tamiya is going well although still havent been to any meetings, what you running now ?

GRIFF55
05-08-2007, 12:12 PM
Hot Bodies D4, Parts were a nightmare on the tamiya, unless you had stock of your own. I think marston regional is next weekend , give it a go!! you know you want to!!:D

BelstenToo
05-08-2007, 09:16 PM
Hello all, you'd better watch what you say about me now and as Dave said I'm start up racing again too, it's only been 11 years since I packed it in!
I'm sure I'll see you at Cardiff soon Steve ;)

DCM
05-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Nice one Pete, if there is anything you need, drop me a line!!

Welshy40
06-08-2007, 05:05 PM
Bellend, you finally made it then. Hehehe. Now its my turn to sit back and have a laugh mate

Welshy40
06-08-2007, 05:34 PM
Hey Peter,

So I guess your going to be down to show Dave how to race on his track. It will be like old times, seeing you and dave race.

HKP
06-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Oh god.. all the old boys back together. :D tenth off road is becoming like an old man's club.

I'm doing my first regional since 1996 in two weeks :) We'll see how badly I can break the TRF 501X

Belsten
06-08-2007, 08:59 PM
For sure you had all better watch out, instone, my name is dave, or belsten, not bellend. Be careful now, I could be awfully rude if provoked !

BelstenToo
06-08-2007, 10:53 PM
Yeah, watch it, if you insult one of us then you insult the whole family!

Steve, I'll give you a call to let you know when I'll be down Cardiff.

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 06:17 AM
Mate, you always are rude, so nothing much will change hehehe.

Pete, I wouldnt want to insult your family mate, as yours is tops.

Tom, we will sort that car out on the day, as well as mine.

GRIFF55
07-08-2007, 07:16 AM
Oh god.. all the old boys back together. :D tenth off road is becoming like an old man's club.

I'm doing my first regional since 1996 in two weeks :) We'll see how badly I can break the TRF 501X

What regional is that then?

DCM
07-08-2007, 07:54 AM
Yeah, watch it, if you insult one of us then you insult the whole family!

Steve, I'll give you a call to let you know when I'll be down Cardiff.

Nice one fella, all we got to do ispry Mr Radford out of retirement roflol

HKP
07-08-2007, 02:17 PM
What regional is that then?

Colchester hopefully when i book my place!!

super__dan
07-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Alright Dave, how's it going?

Last time I saw you was at Bury Metro where someone kindly removed the front of your Yokomo. That was the national after Holbeach which you had gone to a week late!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Instone's been on here a while talking of Lazers, setups RC10's 2 generations old etc. Surprisingly no mention of Shark Attack motors yet though.

A word of advice, the waiting list for nationals these days is HUGE. Usually F5's don't make it in so if you're thinking of coming next year try to get a couple of welsh rounds in, or Tiverton to get it up a bit. Even just to F4 will help a lot!

Hi Pete, I didn't know you so well though always remember you had a cool RC10 when I first started which I was very envious ;)

Dan Greenwood

jimmy
07-08-2007, 05:14 PM
I'm F4 this year and found it difficult to get a place - so next year maybe even F4's will struggle. I had to cheat and switch regions to make sure I got a good licence grade so that I can get in Nationals next year.

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 05:26 PM
Shark attack, now thats a blast from the past. Well not much worth mentioning, but still a very good motor manufacturer that didnt utilise good marketing like the rest did. Its only good result was my 5th in the indoor 4wd champs finals. Pity as I liked them.

So the nationals are not as big as they were before so why so hard to gain entry? Its not as it was back in the 90s when Dave and I were doing it, so I am a bit surprised there.

Well it would be good to see Dave racing again, and see him get up the ranks quickly. Me im not bothered with the nats at the moment, just interested in regionals and fun.

Old age is catching up and now I prefer to relax and laze around rather than getting up early.

super__dan
07-08-2007, 05:32 PM
No James, nationals are more popular than ever before. 130 drivers in 2wd with up to 30 odd on the reserve list. It's regionals that aren't what they used to be. In some parts like the North East and Mid West they are still pretty big (we get 70-80 with 2wd and 4wd on seperate days) but other regions have gone down or dissapeared.

I happen to know Paul Worsley has worked really hard with some reagions to help build this back up and this is showing in the south east, east of england etc which is great!!!

Jimmy, you gotta do what you gotta do. Glad you'll be racing again next year and maybe return to the correct region ;)

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 05:54 PM
No James, nationals are more popular than ever before. 130 drivers in 2wd with up to 30 odd on the reserve list. It's regionals that aren't what they used to be. In some parts like the North East and Mid West they are still pretty big (we get 70-80 with 2wd and 4wd on seperate days) but other regions have gone down or dissapeared.

I happen to know Paul Worsley has worked really hard with some reagions to help build this back up and this is showing in the south east, east of england etc which is great!!!

Jimmy, you gotta do what you gotta do. Glad you'll be racing again next year and maybe return to the correct region ;)

Mmmm well thats a bit less than the 90s, as they had up to 150 at certain occasions and a heap of people on the reserve. Well I guess not really much of a difference, only a small amount less. I made an O final on my first race at tiverton so i know from that.

But yes, its good to see you have come a long way, and was a bit surprised to read about you. Harris has always been in the mags since the late 80s to now so nice to see somone else making the news

If Wales has some good indoor venues I would be tempted. I did enjoy abergavenny, caldicot (my favourite), cardiff and newport race tracks and would turn up for them again.

Hey Dan, what servo, motor and esc are you running? What do you think of the brushless motors that are being run? Im curious as I havent the foggiest which way to go. If brushless are BRCA legal maybe better to go that way but I dont have a clue about how fast they are as its changed a lot since 02. I have the Mamba Max 5700 an goes like a 10 double with a fraction more accelaration but thats undergeared and not legal, so what is your opinion on the LRP/Orion motors?

GRIFF55
07-08-2007, 06:30 PM
Get a 6.5 nosram for starters, very similar to a 10. 5.5 is more fun tho!!
As for the Welsh clubs starting back up, If you support the ones that are going now, it may generate more interest in the hobby here(wales). I've been to c.o.b.r.a and caldicot clubs recently and both were well run and had ok attendances.(caldicot even had food). Ok not like in the days of Oakdale, Neath or Teifi but its getting there slowly.
Go to some meets in wales they're good fun.

Richard Lowe
07-08-2007, 06:45 PM
At the moment, LRP/Nosram make the better ESC and Novak make the better motor IMO having used both, the Orion motor is an unknown quantity for me.

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 06:47 PM
I liked the last event in 99 when I won the welsh league event at Caldicot in 2wd, and thoroughly enjoyed taking the trophy out of Cliff Evans hand. He hated every minute but I found it very satisfying. Remember Abergaveny that year hehehe then if so youll understand why.

I liked that track the best as I cant recall finishing any lower than 3rd there, and the carpet for some strange reason still had grip even though it looked ready to through away. Its a fantastic track.

Oakdale, yes that was the one I missed off, I liked racing there. Teifi was ok but didnt like the drive there from Newport, still had fun leading an a with 1400s against Dave and Craig, who should have walked away from that event but they both crashed. Great day that was too. In fact even tho I had a temper due to being unstable with my diabetes I still enjoyed racing everywhere in wales mainly due to the people. It was a nice atmosphere and thats what counts more than anything else.

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 06:50 PM
At the moment, LRP/Nosram make the better ESC and Novak make the better motor IMO having used both, the Orion motor is an unknown quantity for me.

Richard,

What about brushed, as I am happy with the esc that came with my mamba motor, but I know the nosram and LRP dont work (just found that out) so if orion are the only one then maybe brushed is the way to go and am not so sure what to go for. What wind would you use? Is a 10 D still quick enough?

GRIFF55
07-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Not the Cliff A.R.S Evans?

DCM
07-08-2007, 07:32 PM
Cliff Evans, lets leave him firmly in the past will yah..... crikey moses....

All the best tracks have gone, Abergavenny, Neath and Teifiside. COBRA is good fun if just a little cramped these days, it is even a struggle at times with 19t.

Richard Lowe
07-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Richard,

What about brushed, as I am happy with the esc that came with my mamba motor, but I know the nosram and LRP dont work (just found that out) so if orion are the only one then maybe brushed is the way to go and am not so sure what to go for. What wind would you use? Is a 10 D still quick enough?
I like the Checkpoint motors, they last as long as V2's between rebuilds and are just about the fastest thing out there. The brushes are very expensive but almost will not burn no matter what you do.

Why won't the LRP/Nosram/Novak motors work with the Mamba, just because they are sensored motors doesn't mean they wont work without the sensor cable... ;)

DCM
07-08-2007, 08:43 PM
with a sensorless system, it can cause real issue's if the firmware can't follow the motor, as the sensored motors give different feedback down the motor wires to the sensorless units.

Richard Lowe
07-08-2007, 09:30 PM
OK I didn't know that :)

ashleyb4
07-08-2007, 09:33 PM
If you want to run nosram/lrp speedo's and run a motor of the same quailty as the novak ones get an orion vortex good quick sinitered rotor motors.

A

BelstenToo
07-08-2007, 09:57 PM
Instone's been on here a while talking of Lazers, setups RC10's 2 generations old etc.
Hi Pete, I didn't know you so well though always remember you had a cool RC10 when I first started which I was very envious ;)

So James is still talking rubbish then ;)
Cheers Dan, I loved that car I did, I ran them for several seasons, I did look at buying a B4 but decided against it, I mean how can it be an RC10 without an alloy tub chassis?
So I've just bought a DF03 to get started again (ok everyone point and laugh now!) as I have fond memories of my old manta ray, gosh I'm getting old.... I remember when it were all fields you know.

Steve, I will need to coax Chris back, he's the only one I used to be able to beat, well and you (very occasionally!)

It's a shame all those old clubs and tracks have gone, lets hope it can pick up again. I remember when we used to have 100 plus at every club competition, what numbers do we get now?

DCM
07-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Pete, I got a teaser on for Jeremy Brown at the moment, will Radfords hair last a comeback!!! DF03 is a good car to excercise your thumbs with though!!

Welshy40
07-08-2007, 10:24 PM
Pete,

Rubbish, nope just after info just as you will be. The car you have gone for is actually ok in my books, I like it.

As for your RC10, yup that was a nice car. Pity you got rid of it.

GRIFF - Yes ARS* more like it. He was a waste, however Nicky wasnt and I wonder whats happened to him. Also I wonder what happened to Whitney as well and Jon Evans, and Paul Gardner.

I will try an event with a brushed and see what the difference is compared to the brushless, and boy thats gonna be hard to beat. Might take the plunge with the Orion, as it can be used but still dont think they have yet caught up with castle quite yet.Time will tell. So when I left Reedy was still a top brand and see that Corrally are no longer in the picture. Pity. A lots happened hasnt it.

DCM
07-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Actualy, the Orion is better than the CC Mamba, especialy as the Orion/LRP/Nosram/Nokak/GM motors are legal. You could run the Trinity motor without problems on the Mambe, but take your laptop with you if you want to adjust it,.

Body Paint
07-08-2007, 11:33 PM
Uhh Oh!!

Look out.. as if it wasn't bad enough having James on Oople now Dave and Pete are on aswell :rolleyes: :D :D

Great to here you guys are coming back to the fold. It's always cool to here from the old skool crew.

We are planning a Welsh Indoor GP for off-road this winter in Caldicot, plans are for it to be October or November, you'd all be most welcome (as long as you've got a BRCA license of course.. looks towards Dave)

Welshy40
08-08-2007, 12:06 PM
How do Craig, hows things?

I'd be tempted with the Caldicot event as well, would be like a blast from the past. Still the same old carpet there?

Welshy40
08-08-2007, 12:10 PM
Actualy, the Orion is better than the CC Mamba, especialy as the Orion/LRP/Nosram/Nokak/GM motors are legal. You could run the Trinity motor without problems on the Mambe, but take your laptop with you if you want to adjust it,.


I know the Orion is legal and the Mamba isnt but the speed on the 5700 is quicker than anything I have previously driven. If the Orion is as quick then I will buy one, but I doubt it will be somehow. Trinity does work as well with my esc but the LRP/Nosram are sensored and dont work so pity on that. Mind you I will buy the tekin brushless when it has been sorted and released and then I can use the lot.

Belsten
08-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Hi Dan, hi Craig

Im very well cheers. How are you both ? Both doing pretty well now I see ? Congrats to you both

Yeah that was a few years ago and it didnt go all to well. Thanks for the advice about getting in to the nationals. Im reallyn ot sure if I will be doing them next year. I will pop along to a few meetings over the winter. I have always been a fan of tiverton so would be well up for doing the winter series again. Craig, let me know about this Welsh GP thingy as I would also be interested in that for sure. Im taking it its still in caerwent ?

Cheers

Dave

Body Paint
08-08-2007, 06:05 PM
Hi James, Dave

Thanks for the props, been having a good run the last couple of years and Dan has been doing ace. The git raped me twice at Bury and I was powerless to stop him.

Welsh GP is still in the planning, but should be good. Still in the same place in Caerwent but we bought a load of Prima Track carpet a couple of years ago so no more of that tatty crap. We've also got AMBrc now aswell.

Body Paint
08-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Tiverton winter series will be on there astro track were they run nitros. Apparently the farmer is ripping up the mud and replacing it with old car tires.

GRIFF55
08-08-2007, 06:41 PM
[quote=Body Paint;54823]Hi James, Dave

. The git raped me twice at Bury and I was powerless to stop him.

OOOH, sore pipe after that one then!! did penny sort him out:D
Count me in for the GP!! as long as its after finals?

Welshy40
08-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Craig, well when me and dave do appear for the future penned in event we most probably will get lapped big time by Dan.

I suppose its revenge time for all the times that he was lapped. But then again I couldnt care less and just want to have a giggle and see if I can make it to the end of the race without breaking anything.

Maybe Dave and I could have a competition between us and see who crashes less hehehehe

Is the surface super grippy still, i know its new but the last time i raced there (1999 - I think you were watching the final) it was megga grippy. Has the grip made it better or worse?

BelstenToo
08-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Uhh Oh!!

Look out.. as if it wasn't bad enough having James on Oople now Dave and Pete are on aswell :rolleyes: :D :D

Great to here you guys are coming back to the fold. It's always cool to here from the old skool crew.

We are planning a Welsh Indoor GP for off-road this winter in Caldicot, plans are for it to be October or November, you'd all be most welcome (as long as you've got a BRCA license of course.. looks towards Dave)
Cheers Craig!!
I've already popped along to Caldicot to check it out a few weeks back. Went along with Lloyd Fennel who's also thinking about taking it back up again.
Great idea, let's see how many people we can bring out of retirement shall we?
PS I'm only teasing James ;)

Body Paint
08-08-2007, 09:01 PM
IF Dan comes... He lives up North now.

It is very grippy, if you run new minipins it is a challenge to keep the car on all fours.

There'll be a few jumps and a bit of slippy and maybe one of our old skool wall rides;)

Body Paint
08-08-2007, 09:05 PM
Nice one Pete.

Did you recognise any faces? Penny and me were at the Euros but will be back this Friday.

Welshy40
08-08-2007, 09:34 PM
Cheers Craig!!
I've already popped along to Caldicot to check it out a few weeks back. Went along with Lloyd Fennel who's also thinking about taking it back up again.
Great idea, let's see how many people we can bring out of retirement shall we?
PS I'm only teasing James ;)

Pete,

I know mate, i wasnt taking it seriously.

super__dan
09-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Hey Dan, what servo, motor and esc are you running? What do you think of the brushless motors that are being run? Im curious as I havent the foggiest which way to go. If brushless are BRCA legal maybe better to go that way but I dont have a clue about how fast they are as its changed a lot since 02. I have the Mamba Max 5700 an goes like a 10 double with a fraction more accelaration but thats undergeared and not legal, so what is your opinion on the LRP/Orion motors?

Sorry for the reply James, I meant to reply and then forgot.

I am fortunate enough to be sponsored by Novak Electronics now so my views may be biased. I run the GTB speedo and Velociti brushless motors (6.5 2wd and 5.5 4wd). It's difficult for me to say how pleased I am with these, they are proper ace. My 5.5 in 4wd on the weekend was rediculous down the straight (as were others) and I had a smile on my face all practice.

It's not that brushless is faster than brushed cos you can buy as much speed as you want in any car, it's the total absence of maintenance. If a brushed motors gets hot it might need a skim and brush every run or regular anyway through the day. Brushless, as long as it doesn't thermal just let it cool and you're away again. In Belgium you could just run the car continously as it never got that hot!

I don't want to send this down the Blue vs Orange route, I do believe though that Novak motors (and speedos) are VERY reliable indeed as several of the people in my region who have borrowed my 7.5 when their motor has died on them can testify.

Orion motors look good but I have no experiance with them.

Servo wise I usually run KO still but have borrowed a slightly slower (deliberatly) Airtronics to try in the 2wd as the 0.06 KO was too much I felt.

Nick Goodall
09-08-2007, 12:39 PM
I remember those names Matt Whiney, Paul Gardner etc..... What about Jon Tucker??

I've still got a trophy somewhere from the 95 Welsh GP (i would have been 13 then)!

Wraggy
09-08-2007, 12:46 PM
[quote=Nick Goodall;54986] What about Jon Tucker??
quote]
wasnt he known as the pocket rocket ???or am i thinking of someone else ??

Nick Goodall
09-08-2007, 01:27 PM
That may be Jon Leonard you're thinking of as he was really good when he was young..... then went off the rails which was a real shame.

DCM
09-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Jon Leonard... rails were completely off with him.

Tucker, last I heard, was working for Sony.

Welshy40
09-08-2007, 05:38 PM
Dan

Cheers for that. Yes my mamba 5700 was bought for no maintenance so I can get more practice, but its so quick that i cant open it up.

Im gonna try a brsuhed motor, and see what the difference is. But if I get the chance I guess the orion is going to be tried as I cant use sensored motors with my esc.

KO, what KO in 4wd? Im waiting for my friend in Singapore to send me my Sanwa ERG VRX (I think thats what its called) with a blue heat sink to match the rest of my car. But in the mean time I managed to get a Futaba 9402 and thats roughly the same as a KO1001, so isnt bad, but has a lot more strength behind it so not a problem steering.

Any luck with the info on the Optima, I hope it helped.

Jon Tucker. The original team toilet driver hehe. Kidderminster (when I got accused of putting a tent up the top of a 30ft fence, and Stu Wood almost pissed himself laughing at me after I got a visit from the BRCA chairman and secretary - nothing new there, as i rgot egular visits hehehe) he won the 2wd National convincingly against the rest.

Jon Leonard, any one watch porridge, as i heard a romour that he is having fun picking up soap in the showers somewhere.

95 welsh GP. Which was the one the day after the radio race car event? was that 95. Craig you remember my lazer where you painted pink and yellow design, when was that done?.

I know I won the event against the radio race car mob that made the A and B finals the day before the caldicot indoor event, where Dave made the B hehehe, and was wondering what event that was.

Nick Goodall
10-08-2007, 08:34 AM
The Welsh GP i'm thinkin of was sponsored by TTech and Cliff Evans i think supported it with A.R.S...... he was helping me out at the time with motors.


It was outdoors but i can't remember the track.......

Welshy40
10-08-2007, 06:56 PM
MMM thats a good one, as i cant remember which one Ttech sponsered either, but the AR*E did sponser a few, but none really remind me of anything good. Unless it was oakdale, or abergavenny

BelstenToo
12-08-2007, 12:04 AM
Nice one Pete.

Did you recognise any faces? Penny and me were at the Euros but will be back this Friday.
Not many there, but a couple of faces that seemed familiar, but everyone has got so old!

Body Paint
13-08-2007, 08:07 PM
NICK: It was Oakdale, you were doing really well till some Jedi Master came from 10th on the grid to whoop yo' ass in the 3 leg A final :D

Pete: This time of year is always a bit weird, you just don't know how many people will turn up. Can be anywhere from 8 to 28. You were spotted but no-one could remember your name LOL.

BelstenToo
14-08-2007, 10:35 AM
Pete: This time of year is always a bit weird, you just don't know how many people will turn up. Can be anywhere from 8 to 28. You were spotted but no-one could remember your name LOL.
:wtf: Couldn't remember my name?!!
Oh well, I may have to pop along this week to remind people then!



Erm, if I do, would you be able to check one of them new fangled AMB transponder thingies for me? ;)

Nick Goodall
14-08-2007, 11:03 AM
NICK: It was Oakdale, you were doing really well till some Jedi Master came from 10th on the grid to whoop yo' ass in the 3 leg A final :D

Pete: This time of year is always a bit weird, you just don't know how many people will turn up. Can be anywhere from 8 to 28. You were spotted but no-one could remember your name LOL.

Hahaha well i have the trophy at home so it must have been over by leg 3 :D If it was 95 that means i was 13 too by the way Craig hehe :D

Oakdale - yeah that does sound familiar now, i remember we were camping there with the Caravan, was a good track though from what i can remember? More of a traditional Grass track?