Whos got one!?

[jimmy]

Come on then, own up, who has one ? aparently they are in general circulation now ?!?
I spoke to someone yesterday who along with a couple of mates all have them, and had various problems with skipping belts and the like.. I have to say I had no problems like that at all with mine, it was spot on. Bit tight when first built but freed up nicely after a couple of runs or so.

[Cammer]

Mine has been together for a couple of weeks already, however I am still waiting for all my electronics to come back from getting tuned and reprogrammed. :cool: I think I will be putting the kids radio in this week just to fix my need. Any advise on the gearing with 27t 19t and a mod of about 9 turn. Those long pinions will be hard to find in the Canadian prairies and I would like to be somewhat successful first time at the track.

[jimmy]

I ran a 22t pinion on my 12, Id stick the kit pinion on your 9. maybe 25/26 on your 19 turn.. not sure about 27 as ive never used one.


reprogrammed ? that sounds a bit fancy :o

make sure to get it on some rough stuff, the car floats over it so nicely, makes it worth it! :)

[Micha_MX4]

ah eh hmmm

when will we be able to see your review Jimmy?

btw I like your X-5 review - it's again great!

[jimmy]

Thanks mate, got a couple of things to finish off.. tonight or tomorrow it will be tho. :)

[tyreman]

Mine has been together for a couple of weeks already, however I am still waiting for all my electronics to come back from getting tuned and reprogrammed. :cool: I think I will be putting the kids radio in this week just to fix my need. Any advise on the gearing with 27t 19t and a mod of about 9 turn. Those long pinions will be hard to find in the Canadian prairies and I would like to be somewhat successful first time at the track.

The pinions are made by RW or Corally and are called long boss pinions

[jimmy]

Oh, long pinions.. missed that bit off..

I used normal ones on mine, never thought twice about it.

[jimmy]

Just had another look and normal pinions fit fine, theres not a whole lotta shaft but the shaft on all my motors extends well past the grub screw and the pinion has a firm base.

[Bathy]

I would like one!

[Mike_stening]

hello every body:flower:

hehe bathy, me too son.

jimmy any news on your review? if i cant get one i'll be happy enough just drooling over some intimate pics, oh how sad, oh yeah:rolleyes: :bom:

[jimmy]

Done! :jimmeh just want to polish it a little more... no point chucking out a half arsed effort is there. I have to say though, I'm quite pleased with how it looks. Had my team of oOples checking it over last night.:D

[Mike_stening]

did you check the wheelbase mate?

[jimmy]

gulp.. must write a list ! :)

[Mike_stening]

lol:D :flower: :jimmeh

[emzy]

Had my team of oOples checking it over last night.:D

Emzy spell check... complete. Although completed at midnight whilst frantically trying to memorise French...

[Mike_stening]

Emzy spell check... complete. Although completed at midnight whilst frantically trying to memorise French...


hmm that prove to be interesting

[jimmy]

She was mostly laughing at my use of phrases like "locate the absconders" in the review :p

[emzy]

Which I was rather impressed by!

[BluesFan]

post it already! I need something to read in the morning while I'm at work!

[jimmy]

Morning! bah, crazy timezone dancer!
:D
just needs a lil polish im afraid, needs to be nice as possible so I can bargain my way to gettin more cars to review, or try :rolleyes:.

[Bathy]

I just hope this car gets a positive review, it look like it should be a winner! :rolleyes:

[barnyard]

come on jimmy need something to do at work.

Could be seriously tempted if i keep killin my losi like i have been

[jimmy]

Thank goodness.. Its dun!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewbx/index.html


I like the look of this review, try to make em look better each time.

[PaulRotheram]

nice one jimmeh, was a pleasure!

[barnyard]

Couldn't wait till the morning but from the inebriated state I’m in looks very good.

Once again you have excelled in what no other publication or online review can do by giving an honest opinion in where a product succeeds but more importantly where improvements can be made.

Hopefully the manufacturers will take onboard the criticisms made and improve future products.

keep up the good work and hopefully later in the year we'll see the first of a new line of 2wd reviews starting with the X6......or XXXcr.

[jimmy]

Thanks mate, looks better when not pi$$ed honest :p

BJworlds looks a distinct possibilty now, and hopefully the X-6 will be sorted also. XXXCR have to wait and see, 3 emails and nothing back yet :rolleyes:

[FBR]

jimmy another great review good job and i hope you get the worlds car to review next you'll love it

[Mike_stening]

awsome jimmy, mags take note, this is how its done.

just one complaint
I WANT ONE EVEN MORE NOW!!!!!

i know yokes went to gether well before so this sounds likea dream to build.

grrrr
cheers jimmy, probably read it a couple of times:flower: :D :bounce: :salut:

[Mike_stening]

oh btw jimmy, what was the wheelbase in the end? :geek:

notice you said it was a couple of mm longer than the xxx4, so that would put it in the 272-274mm length i think(xxx4 being 270mm). which would make it slightly shorter than the MX4 was (274mm) but a good 4-6mm longer than the BCS (266mm)

[jimmy]

Couldnt find anything to measure it with, so put it along side the XX4. it was probably up to around 3-5mm longer but without a tape or something im not sure.
If i can find something tonight ill measure it properly :smile:

[barnyard]

not too srue about that one Jimmy i find most things look better when Pi$$ed normally women, kebabs pizza etc.

Saying that the review still looks amazing and i echo other peoples words of i want one even more now.

[Micha_MX4]

11 pages of fun to read, really.

I'll sell my preds and my brushless motor/esc - i want this.

the only moulded parts are the wingmounts and the shock caps
(there are blue alloy ones availabe, I use the on my BC Special shocks
I use in my MX-4)

[Morlock]

Great review. I plan on buikding mine this week. I just got my Dark Impact off the kitchen table.

That is great we can use losi wheels and tires - at least until ultiamate starts stocking the yoke wheels.

I'll pick up some losi roll pins as you suggest. Luckily I play (start racing in a month or so) at an indoor hard packed, clay like track so dirt and dust are minimal.

Maybe someone will come out with a lexan cover for the belts/diffs. Think it could be done?

[jimmy]

maybe something can be done extra to protect them but I think the car is worth the effort and having changed a front belt in my XX4 today I can say that theres nothing at all on the BX which takes so long and it such a struggle.

Saw a couple racing today, Bradby took TQ with his and Arslaan had one going also, I saw arslaans lock up at the end of his run, the pin had come out of the UJ like I mentiond in the review, i think a SMALL flat spot on the uj pin would probably help, worth trying ??
I dont have one anymore :( so if anyone wants to do it and post a photo and results (like if the pin backs out) go for it!

its only the rear pins Ive seen back out.

[DCM]

no flat spots should be needed Jim, you only need to do that when going through plastic. I have run CDV's for 2 1/2 years now and NEVER had one come loose on any of the cars, even the Academy, just you got to use a decent driver to nip up the grub screw, make sure all the parts are degrease and use a little threadlock (best get automotive ones, find they are better).

Also, I think my B4 has a ball joint plague... last few times I have run it, seems to break one... one at the F3's, one ball cup today and one ball stud.... Oh... and if you EVER buy used shocks CHECK THE PISTONS.... did wonder why the B4 was hopping about... 3's in the front 2's in the rear.

[jimmy]

lol !

I think there must be somet about the UJ design that is causing the problem cos it seems to be fairly common, i never had a CVD come apart either but the UJ's on the yokomo seem to come apart no matter how tight you put the grub screw... of course I dont wanna break a driver trying but you get what I mean..
not sure if it is the grubscrew working a little loose, have to try a proper degrease like..

[barnyard]

i've had he issue with the losi LCD's falling apart even with thread lock eventually sorted by washing all the parts in alcohol (not the kind i've been drinking till about 15 mins ago) Then using proper locktite 243 not the supplied stuff. But then again i'm still checking then every run after the first 2 meetings where one of the joints would fall apart every run.

[jimmy]

Sounds like they are similarly naughty joints.
I didn't deagrease mine, I merely suggested it in the review after mine came apart.

[Cammer]

Great review. I plan on buikding mine this week. I just got my Dark Impact off the kitchen table.

That is great we can use losi wheels and tires - at least until ultiamate starts stocking the yoke wheels.

I'll pick up some losi roll pins as you suggest. Luckily I play (start racing in a month or so) at an indoor hard packed, clay like track so dirt and dust are minimal.

Maybe someone will come out with a lexan cover for the belts/diffs. Think it could be done?

I wish when I cut the rear belt cover that I left more lexan on so I could use the screws to hold it down rather than 2 sided tape.

[Micha_MX4]

@Cammer:

is there a slightly bigger pic ;) ?

[Cammer]

@Cammer:

is there a slightly bigger pic ;) ?

Hi Micha

How is this.

[Micha_MX4]

thanks, now I got it! :cool:

[Bathy]

I’m looking for MR-4BX instruction manual in English, anyone spotted a pdf copy online? I’ve looked can’t find one (tried CML & stuff)!

[Cammer]

I’m looking for MR-4BX instruction manual in English, anyone spotted a pdf copy online? I’ve looked can’t find one (tried CML & stuff)!

I can email you one, it's 9 megs.

[jimmy]

I can host it if you want mate, I dont have a scanner so can't put manuals and the like up myself at the moment but if someone has a useful one I can host it like.

[Bathy]

I can email you one, it's 9 megs.

Hi Cammer are you able to send it to Jimmy to host? Or can you upload it to yousendit or something, I am pretty keen to get hold of a copy so thanks for the offer.

[rcyogi]

Yokomousa.com has it posted.

[Bathy]

Yokomousa.com has it posted.

Am I blind? I looked there the other day and I'm looking now and can't see the BX, thanks anyway rcyogi!

http://www.yokomousa.com/newproducts/manualusa.htm

[jimmy]

Thanks to Cammer for sending me it, cheers mate.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewbx/yokomomanual.pdf

[Mike_stening]

if you want it i have rotated all the pages so they are horizontal and easier to read.
let me know :D

[jimmy]

Send it along mate (mooplea at the ever so popular hotmail dot com website) Makes more sense not having to tilt yer head huh! lol

I have adobe indesign here, I guess its not a biggie to rotate it but I'd probaly turn it into a 500 meg file at the same time :rolleyes:

[Mike_stening]

did it in acrobat pro, took about 7secs:jimmeh oh work can be sort trying at times :rolleyes:

[bigred5765]

bx parts list, explode view, and manual on line in pdf format
http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=2

[Bathy]

bx parts list, explode view, and manual on line in pdf format
http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=2

! Error !

Sorry
You are not authorized to access the Downloads Area.

Just thought I would let you know bigred!

Thanks Cammer for sorting that out, must have taken you ages to scan it all in! Been very helpful so cheers and thanks jimmy for hosting it.

[bigred5765]

! Error !

Sorry
You are not authorized to access the Downloads Area.

Just thought I would let you know bigred!

Thanks Cammer for sorting that out, must have taken you ages to scan it all in! Been very helpful so cheers and thanks jimmy for hosting it.
just sign up for free
it will let you in then
downloads are for reged users only

[jimmy]

How mean of you carl :p

[winehundred]

Hi everybody, hi Jimmy,

Could someone confirm me that the Asso springs can be fitted on the Yokomo shocks, please? And so, the same as for the B4? I'd like to buy the BX, so would like to buy the good springs too...;-)

Also, I think I can see on Jimmy's pictures that the Team drivers use the Asso shocks : is it? Why?

Many thanks for your help!


PS to Jimmy : I'm a prof sport photographer, just would like to tell you that your pictures (actions and others) are of a verrrry high quality, honnestly!! :thumleft: :thumleft: You have a very good eye, as we say!

[jimmy]

Hi mate!
The associated springs fit fine, from memory I think they are a tight fit around the shock bottoms, but they do fit and work well. The included shocks are great - as for some drivers using Associated shocks, like neil cragg, I know they run the rear shocks and different (higher) rear tower to alter the handling.
But to put it into perspective all the box-standard BX cars at the first UK national were in the A final (apart from mine of course! hehe), the ones with modified rear towers / associated shocks etc were in the B final.. So - stick with the standard stuff! :)

I'm not sure about shock pistons but maybe that is another reason the team drivers might run AE shocks, since the BX comes with unknown pistons and no additional ones for tuning - same for springs. They all know the B4 shocks - so no experimenting is needed.
The BX shocks are close in many ways to the AE ones, so perhaps the AE pistons fit- anyone know ??


Thanks for the kind comments also! :) and good luck with your BX if you get it - very nice to build.

[bigred5765]

Sounds like they are similarly naughty joints.
I didn't degrease mine, I merely suggested it in the review after mine came apart.
there is a very easy fix to stop pins coming out , you simple cut a very small piece of heat shrink tubing and heat it up over the end of the cvd , just enough to cover were the pin goes round like MM wide

[jimmy]

They aren't CVD's tho, they are Universal Joints, so I dont thing its possible since it would interfere with the movement of the joint. I have some heatshrink on my b4 cvd's because I couldnt find the threadlock :p

[bigred5765]

yeh just looked at the manual on my web site, you might be right jimmy thats a horible disgn fault, dont no if you could get away with heatshrink tubing, worth a try though,o as you say small grove in pin?

[Cammer]

Hi everybody, hi Jimmy,

Could someone confirm me that the Asso springs can be fitted on the Yokomo shocks, please? And so, the same as for the B4? I'd like to buy the BX, so would like to buy the good springs too...;-)

Also, I think I can see on Jimmy's pictures that the Team drivers use the Asso shocks : is it? Why?

Many thanks for your help!


PS to Jimmy : I'm a prof sport photographer, just would like to tell you that your pictures (actions and others) are of a verrrry high quality, honnestly!! :thumleft: :thumleft: You have a very good eye, as we say!


If you use the Losi ones they are a little bigger and won't damage the threads on the shock body as much.

[Morlock]

Note the oople stickers on the wing! 'Course I am neither the shell painter nor the photographer Jimmy is.

[jimmy]

Very nice! looks great, nice and colourful. Good choice of ESC too, my favourite.

[Morlock]

Thanks Jimmy,

First time I have used this ESC. Any suggestions on ESC settings for the Yoke (or for 4wd buggies in general) ?

Also, the Yoke distributor in the USA, Butch, hooked me up with some stickers from his personal stock when I dropped by to buy some spares from him. Very nice guy - showed him your site and he was really impressed by your review of the BX.

[Bathy]

Your car looks good Morlock, like the paint job a lot.

Regarding the BX, I got some new parts from Japan yesterday, going to be fitting them to the car ahead of this weekends National.

Had the following part numbers turn up:

BX-008RG, BX-008FG, BX-300FBA, BX-414SG & BX-4131OG.

Other than the front alloy brace the other parts are graphite upgrades for wishbones and steering arm/block. I’ll let you know how long it took me to break them on Monday, the jump for this weekend looks a lot of fun but might be the cause of a few breakages… we shall see!

[jimmy]

YEEHAAA bathy!! can't wait to see that gorgeous jewel of a car ping off the sides of the track like a pinball machine!!!:D

Morlock, on the keyence, not really off hand, I just love the adjustability of it and smoothness (or punch if you need it).

[Morlock]

Thanks Bathy,

I'll keep an eye out for those part numbers. Burt, the US distrib said they were getting some graphite arms etc. but he had not received them the day I stopped by.

By the way, it was teh first time I had walked inside a distributor's warehouse. Its a small warehouse they have in Los Angeles, with Yokomo kits and parts stacked floor to ceiling. I felt like a kid in a candy store. THey still had 3 of the previous plastic mr4 4wd new in the box.

He let me drive his Yoke drifter too in the car park and it was a blast.

Upload pics of your car when you have the new parts in :D

[jimmy]

Sounds like heaven! Thanks for putting the oOple word in too! ;)

im sure I'll get a photo of bathys car this weekend, will try before he drives it :p

[Bathy]

Hi Morlock, the graphite arms look very much the same as the plastic ones, just a kinda 'dusty shade' compared with the plastic ones.

Ran the car yesterday at our UK national series, (here come the excuses) I had some bad luck with wires de-soldering, turnbuckles popping off twice and it took me a few heats to get the car setup right (missed 2nd practise). Think I got it sorted pretty well in the end but this, added to my lack of race talent, meant I ended up in the bottom final on the day, doh!

The graphite arms seem pretty tuff, I got stuck against some piping at one point and someone slammed into the back of me, their car broke mine carried on fine.

Other than motor wire coming off, the only other problem I suffered from (twice) was a rear ball cup thingy popping off. I think one must be deformed or worn out a bit so I’ll replace it, didn't break any other parts all day so that was good.

Oh I did lose a bit of blue alloy, one of my front spring retainers, in the final which was annoying, not sure when I lost it, but again that's my excuse for doing poorly. Did anyone find one and can I have it back please?

[Bathy]

Hi Morlock, I took some pictures of my BX at the weekend, it has the graphite parts fitted but as I said they look pretty much the same as the plastic ones.

http://www.jigsaw7/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX4.jpg

www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX1.jpg (http://www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX1.jpg)

www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX2.jpg (http://www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX2.jpg)

www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX3.jpg (http://www.jigsaw7.com/uploads/bigkidstuff/BX3.jpg)

[OldTimer]

Love the carbon fibre effect rear wing, were did you get the stuff from ?.

[Bathy]

Love the carbon fibre effect rear wing, were did you get the stuff from ?.

It's turned out ok huh, only tried it a 'gag' really because I had such a large sheet of the stuff, think I bought it from Microtech Racing. I’m going to do all my wings now as I don’t bother in getting them painted, and this is pretty quick and simple to do.

[tyreman]

Dave can you get anymore titanium or blue alloy on you car :) :rolleyes:

[PaulRotheram]

yes.. QC2 esc with alloy blue heatsink :D