2010/11 Vintage Series

[peetbee]

Sorry it's taken so long to organise but here we go:

Trial Run - 22 October (subject to sufficient interest)
Round 1 - 12 November
Round 2 - 10 December
Round 3 - 28 January
Round 4 - 11 February
Round 5 - 25 March
Round 6 - 22 April

Hope these don't clash with anything!

Rules:
6 rounds, 4 to count
100 points for 1st, 99 for second and so on - 1 point for TQ
any battery
any motor
Pre 94 and Pre99 classes

[Dyna]

Hmmm now i could do both classes.... but i did like driving the Top Force last year so put me down for the pre-94 class Pete :)

[peetbee]

At last someone's showed interest!
I was wondering if it was worth running this as I don't want something that only gets two or three runners and then fizzles out.

[Dyna]

Fair enough Pete i agree with you. If we dont get enough entries for a series how about a one-off race night for vintages with a trophy or something ? Might be viable ?

[Belsten]

count me in :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

Maybe run a one-off round at the Christmas bash :woot::woot:

[Caine]

Could i run my rc10t? Waiting for a couple of bits but will be able to do november.
So does this mean we can use brushless and lipo or is it strictly old skool electrics?

[liam]

Count me in with an RC10!

[peetbee]

Part of the fun is seeing how well the old transmissions last with lipo and brushless!
RC10T would be interesting, just no driving over the rest of us as the plastics get a bit brittle with age!

[Caine]

Ha Ha i promise i wont, shame my rc10 isnt on the road! My transmission has held up well with brushless so far but been thinkin of replacing the topshaft and using the t4 slipper clutch, have heard it'll take quite low turn motors with that mod:thumbsup: Even thou that would be stupid would'nt it?

[liam]

Who said anything about brushless....! :D he he he

[Dyna]

Ill be running brushless but with GP3300's in the Top Force, but if all other drivers are running 2wd on the night ill switch to the TRX3....

As Pete said anything electrical goes really, it just depends on how worn your plastics are !

[liam]

is it a top force evo? either way it will be good to see

[peetbee]

The top force is fantastic, I want one almost as much as I want an RC10.

[peetbee]

Maybe run a one-off round at the Christmas bash :woot::woot:

Would that tempt your RC10 off the shelf then Si?

[liam]

Had the first test run of the RC10 Team tonight....I LIKE IT!:D

No servo yet but all other leccys in...including a circa 1992 brushed LRP Magic motor.

Seems to have lots of power, nice noise and sparks!

[peetbee]

Oh, that's not fair I won't be able to concentrate on driving as I'll be too busy looking at the RC10!
Will someone sell me one please? :(

[liam]

i could loan you mine for a week and enter the losi as a vintage instead

im quite liking the brushes as it goes

[peetbee]

You won't get it back! :D

PS - sounds like there may not be anyone running vintage on the 22nd (other than Liam) so we won't have a trial run before the series starts - although you are more than welcome to run with the modern stuff!!

It's probably worth saying that even on weeks where the series is running, all the normal micro and tenth classes will be running their own heats too.

[metalmickey0]

do they have to have vintage tyres too, or can we grab some mini pins off Paul. Currently after a Boomerang,mmm memories as The Hornet i had was rubbish:D

[Dyna]

LOL no you dont have to have Vintage tyres.... :lol:

Then again, i remember Andy running his Thundershot with vintage tyres and it wasnt half bad...ish.... on the carpet anyway :woot:

I cant be there this friday but the Top Force is all ready to go for round one :)

[liam]

took the rc10 for a run down the park today...I really like it! seems to bounce along nice on the grass

after afew mins i thought i would touch the brushed motor to check the temps and when i did got this odd "Hissing" sound on my finger:o

Hot hot hot!

think ill drop down a couple of pinions

[metalmickey0]

took the rc10 for a run down the park today...I really like it! seems to bounce along nice on the grass

after afew mins i thought i would touch the brushed motor to check the temps and when i did got this odd "Hissing" sound on my finger:o

Hot hot hot!

think ill drop down a couple of pinions
Do you have a nice motor imprint now then?:D And a bit of skin toasted to the motor

[peetbee]

Vintage tyres would be interesting - these are still available - everyone to run these in blue compound!!
http://www.racing-cars.com/images/T650_w.jpg http://www.racing-cars.com/images/T652_w.jpg
If I make it this week, I won't be running vintage, so I reckon the first outing for nearly everyone will be the first round - should be fun!

[liam]

ill be running a brushed motor in the RC10 for as long as my charger can keep up with its energy demands which i dont think will be long!

[peetbee]

If anyone's looking for a vintage car, I've jsut spotted this which would be awesome!!
http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/94567-kyosho-rocky/

woo hoo!

[Caine]

Crikey i havent seen one of those in years good find pete! On that subject thou this little beast really got my juices flowing when i came across it on the bay yesterday!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140466546343&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

Dunno if it'll even sell at this rate, looks bloody lovely thou:thumbsup:

[Dyna]

Ooooh yes i love those old YZ10's :)

Axeman, you said you were looking for something vintage yet competitive for the series, thats about perfect dude :thumbsup:

[liam]

I almost mistook the new b44.198664 x pie (whatever there calling it) for one of these at Kidderminster the other week...very nice!

I prefer this to an egress but the avante is still my top vintage 4wd

[peetbee]

Ooo I used to run one of those yokomos.

Well it was compulsory if you wanted a 4wd to go with your RC10!!

[axeman]

I'm in running CJ's T3 as it was launched in 1998!!!!
happy days

[Caine]

Oh yes associated trucks out in force! However if the bits come in time my rc10 is comin out. Loved havin a drive of liams on friday

[weeman]

Can i run a B3 ?

Not sure what date it was launched :blush:

[axeman]

they were winning in 1998 with the t3 and b3!!!
so you will be in same cat as me Number 2!!!:p
http://teamassociated.com/news/race_results/119-Team_Associated_RC10B3_%26_T3_TQ_and_win!/

[weeman]

wont be able to catch me though :p

[Dyna]

wont be able to catch me though :p

I know - thats the problem :lol:

I think we ought to have a 2 lap start over Owen.... :p

[axeman]

don't worry about owen!!!! I've got CJ's T3 with big chunky tyres!!! owen will do only one lap!:p

[peetbee]

Any 'dubious racing incidents' will lead to that driver's exclusion, I don't want the elderly plastics to be subjected to more abuse than they can handle!

[axeman]

I'm not sure what your on about pete????:eh?:

I'm the art of perfect driving!!!:lol::lol::lol:

[weeman]

I'm not sure what your on about pete????:eh?:

I'm the art of perfect driving!!!:lol::lol::lol:


racing gods ten commandments


1. thou shallt not crash into owens car !!! :woot:

[peetbee]

How about you get yourself a proper vintage car then?
http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/95493-yokomo-yz-10-spares/
Would be awesome to see one of these running again
And there's another on ebay at the moment :wub

[peetbee]

I think we ought to have a 2 lap start over Owen.... :p


It's ok Matt, he can beat the rest of us by as many laps as he wants - with the B3 he won't be scoring points against us! (2 classes don't forget).

[millzy]

olla all you Vintage racers

i watched you guys do this some time ago at Caldi and it did look like fun

what cars class as pre 94 and pre 99? appaert from the AE cars i have no idea- one question is a xx4 pre 99 and are you letting people run them in 4wd vintage?

Im looking at 2wd for vitage fun

[peetbee]

Yeah, I really didn't think the pre-99 through properly. It was aimed at a couple of people who wanted to run their mid 90's Cats and Cougars (none of whom seem to want to race now!) xx4 does count as pre-99 :rolleyes:

2wd and 4wd are running together for vintage - unless we had enough entries for 2 heats! Even then I'd be inclined to split based on year rather than transmission.

[evilbert]

right then chaps i found this in the cupboard and haven't a clue what it is. Can anyone tell me what it is and when it was made? All i know is it says Kyosho on the bumper?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t52/billpier381/IMAG0284.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t52/billpier381/IMAG0285.jpg

[Caine]

Looks like a laser zx but i could be wrong.

[c0sie]

Looks like scrap, but I could be wrong :)

[Dyna]

Its a mk1 Kyosho Lazer ZX circa 1989/90 Bill, and looks to be in pretty good nick :)

Shocks arent original though, look like early Scumachers to me ?

Perfect for the vintage series, and i have spares if you need any...

[Welshy40]

Looks like scrap, but I could be wrong :)

Its a lazer zx and still the best 4wd buggy ive ever driven, knocks the trf511 for strength easily. I used one from 1988 to 2000 Doing thrre club events and one major event almost every week and broke only 1 wishbone, and three rear belts and one front belt. Superb on carpet, dirt, clay and grass as well on a flooded grass track.

Scrap, No chance. A far better product than whats curently being made. A set of trx1 shocks and 7.5 degree front castor blocks and a tub chassis (the original first design) and is an effective buggy and can show these new cars how well engineered it still is.

[peetbee]

Shocks arent original though, look like early Scumachers to me ?

Defo early Schuey shocks on there.
Dust it off for some vintage fun next month Bill, be ace if those electrics still worked too!
Academy, Tamiya and Kyosho wheels* will fit on there letting you run some decent tyres too!

*plus others using a 12mm hex

[evilbert]

i think its going to take a lot to get this old girl race ready but i'll bring it down to caldi next time i'm racing if anyone wants to take a look and give any pointers on what needs doing to her.

thanks for all the vintage knowledge chaps :)

[peetbee]

:thumbsup:

[Dyna]

It wont take much Bill - refill the shocks ( dont know what pistons are in there so open them up ! ) check the diffs are ok, oil the U/J's, bung on some mini pins or spikes, an old 14-19 s/d/t brushed motor and your away :thumbsup:

Enough to start with anyway - otherwise take an afternoon/long evening to strip & rebuild it. Wont take long, they are easy to do.

[evilbert]

i'll have to see what i can do, unless anyone else gets excited by these only things and fancies getting her race fit? (if you dont ask :) )

[peetbee]

I was never excited by the Lazer sorry!
(waits for Welshy to come back and give me all the reasons why it should excite me! ;))

Bring it along, we'll get it working again for you, 80 weight oil all round should do it along with some Tamiya Oval block tyres :p

[evilbert]

sounds good to me pete

[Body Paint]

I was never excited by the Lazer sorry!
(waits for Welshy to come back and give me all the reasons why it should excite me! ;))



Someone asked the other day what the worst car I'd ever driven was.... answers on a postcard :woot:

[Dyna]

Someone asked the other day what the worst car I'd ever driven was.... answers on a postcard :woot:

I thought you said that was a Predator ?? :p

[Body Paint]

I thought you said that was a Predator ?? :p

Pred was an amazing car to drive, but you were scared to go within 12 inches of the track marking.

I am talking the worst car to actually drive, the one that handled like a 3 legged giraffe stuck in quick sand.

[Dyna]

Pred was an amazing car to drive, but you were scared to go within 12 inches of the track marking.

I am talking the worst car to actually drive, the one that handled like a 3 legged giraffe stuck in quick sand.


LOL good come back :lol:

Have to say i always liked the Lazer though...

[blue_pinky]

Handled like a 3 legged giraffe stuck in quick sand

Quote of the day!!! :lol: :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

Pred was an amazing car to drive, but you were scared to put it on the track.
Edited for accuracy ;)

I am talking the worst car to actually drive, the one that handled like a 3 legged giraffe stuck in quick sand.
Hey leave the Holiday Buggy out of this!

[Body Paint]

Edited for accuracy ;)


Hey leave the Holiday Buggy out of this!

That's not the worst handling car I've ever owned, guess again :lol:

[peetbee]

LOL, it must have been bad then!
Even worse than the S44 then? :evil:

[c0sie]

Balders Tamiya before you rebuilt the thing? lol

[pugboy]

Wild Willy?

In the vintage races is it vintage electrics too? brushed motors and ni cads or just whatever to get the old girls running?

Cheers

Chris (Tomy Intruder mk 1)

[peetbee]

The wild willy was meant to handle badly though!

We discussed the whole brushed v brushless and he consensus was run whatever you like. Most people seem to have gone brushless but 10.5 (or slower). Same for batteries too, I think everyone's gone lipo.

I haven't seen a Tomy for a long long time!

[Balders]

Balders Tamiya before you rebuilt the thing? lol

Scratch one person off the Christmas card list..... :)

[Dyna]

This one could run on and on... :lol:

[Welshy40]

Ooo I used to run one of those yokomos.

Well it was compulsory if you wanted a 4wd to go with your RC10!!

Hehe i remember having a head on with Dave when he got taken out and his YZ10 wishbone snapped in half. Still damn nice car and will easily compete with the new cars. I won several big events with a YZ10.

I preferred my zxr alongside my B2. I havent driven anything better than the B2 so intend on staying with it.

[Welshy40]

Someone asked the other day what the worst car I'd ever driven was.... answers on a postcard :woot:

Craig, i didnt think mine was that bad. You just couldnt drive the car according to my gearing. It went well and got me some good results. I agree with the pred as mine was binned at one of the welsh rounds as it was crap.

Pete, im not going to try and persuade you on the lazer as i know the yok suited you and Dave better. It worked well for me as it was twitch city and would turn instantly no matter what grip or tire including Craigs cut n shuts. Built like a tank and simple to rebuild. I changed a rear belt in Neath and Craig couldnt believe it took less than five minutes. Still i miss my original and still cant find the tub chassis which is gutting.

[peetbee]

Lol, only playing James!
But yes, I'd love another Yokomo, shame they go for such silly money and spares are so rare :(

[GRIFF55]

be nice to see a bigwig blasting round there!!

[Welshy40]

Sod the big wig, get the wild willy!!!

[Balders]

Cars I'd like to see in no particular order on the track at the same time would be:

Schumacher XLS
RC10 MIP 4WD
Tamiya Egress
Tomy Intruder
Cougar 2 Works
The Lunchbox
Anything RC10!

Come on guys search through your cupboards and get them going, other than the MIP RC10 i bet that this list is totally possible to get on the track!

:thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Hehe i got rid of my rc10 mip carbon chassis not so long ago. Its a work of art.

Ive owned all of your list

[Balders]

That's not the worst handling car I've ever owned, guess again :lol:

Didn't you have an Academy 4wd at one point? I seem to remember you bitching A Lot about those..

Saying that though any car you don't own you say is rubbish! ;)

[evilbert]

a have an original lunchbox at home as well i think... amazing car :)

[GRIFF55]

i got a couple of xls's

[Welshy40]

I had a clod buster but is now at the bottom of Cwmbran boating lake. Did quite well as i got halfway across before it decided to sink. I forgot to glue the tyres on.

[peetbee]

Cars I'd like to see in no particular order on the track at the same time would be::thumbsup:

Schumacher XLS - Griff
RC10 MIP 4WD - ???
Tamiya Egress - Matt
Tomy Intruder - Pugboy needs to visit us!
Cougar 2 Works - I think Panch has this, needs some parts to get it running
The Lunchbox - WTF?
Anything RC10! - You, Me, Liam, Phil, Si Osborne and someone else I'm sure!!

Just to add, has Maggsy still got his JRX?

In addition to those above, I'd like to see a Works 93 Yoko running at club :wub

[GRIFF55]

might have to get one of those yokes:thumbsup:. pretty sure magsy has still got his jrx pro. I know of a few pb's kicking around too:p

[peetbee]

LOL, I heard there might be some PB's around!
Anyway, I'm a PB and vintage racer at that :woot:

[Dyna]

I had a clod buster but is now at the bottom of Cwmbran boating lake. Did quite well as i got halfway across before it decided to sink. I forgot to glue the tyres on.


LOL Thats brilliant James :lol:

[Body Paint]

Dodgy DIY has a few nice cars in his vintage scrap heap, would love to see a few of them running again.

[Dyna]

I'd love to see a Mini-Mustang running around again.... anyone got one of them ?

[GRIFF55]

Might have?? I got a maxima and i know someone who has both in mint cond but wont be running them

[Belsten]

was looking at the mustang last night and was thinking should I ?

[Dyna]

was looking at the mustang last night and was thinking should I ?

Yes you should Dave :woot:

[GRIFF55]

no don't!!! get a shit one for that. If you break it, good luck finding spares

[Gaz_Stanton]

was looking at the mustang last night and was thinking should I ?

Backflip it? Hell yeah!

Just got a brand new in box Traxxas TRX-3 delivered. :D
As soon as I get chance to rip into these nicely sealed bags I'll have it up & ragging round Caldicot. Hopefully it'll be stronger than DC's Cougar if it meets a wall! :blush:

Does look mint though...

[peetbee]

You have at least to bring them down so we can all drool over them Dave!

[Gaz_Stanton]

Actually got some chance to work on the vintage stuff this weekend. It started as New In Box but that didn't last long...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/gareth_stanton/TRX-3/IMG_0305.jpg

But looked much better when built up ready to hit the track. (thanks to Steve/DCM for the paint job :thumbsup: )

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/gareth_stanton/TRX-3/IMG_0301.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/gareth_stanton/TRX-3/IMG_0304.jpg

Just needs the lipo, brushless & minipins fitted and it'll be ready to race! :D
(hoping the top deck will be stronger than DC's Cougar if any walls are encountered)

[peetbee]

Excellent Gaz, hopefully see you at the next round :thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

I prefered using the hydra drive on the trx3 and with trx1 wishbones on the front. Craig can help you out with it as he was a team driver for traxxas when this was out.

[Belsten]

the 14th is the same weekend as the petit so I wont be there, hereford also the week after for the bwoc, any chance of a reschedule please ?

[Dyna]

Ohhh yeah kind of forgot this - im away racing with Dave at the Petit & BWOC as well.... :bored:

Could we re-schedule the vintage night ?? Pretty please ???? :)

[peetbee]

woo hoo, I'm in with a chance this time then!
Hmmmm, lets see what we can do......

[Caine]

yeah we could be in with a chance but wont be much fun being to cars down!
If we reschedule any chance of it being the 28th as i might not be able to make it otherwise?

[peetbee]

Ok, how about the 28th then, does that suit everyone?

[Dyna]

28th's fine by me :)

And thank you :)

[Belsten]

awesome :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

28th it is then :)
Have updated original post for dates.

[pugboy]

Just thought I'd share my old flame with some of you vintage boys and your club looks great, dead relaxed and friendly. I really want to get the old girl out of retirement for a bit of a swansong. Trouble is this club is frickin miles away from me! :-) She is ready to roll, subject to my speedo still working. I don't want to go brushless if possible, that's for my new cars! Still got my Fabbiix batteries and B&R motor in - probably both fooked! :lol:

http://cid-539883b88e21d688.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=play&resid=539883B88E21D688!136

[peetbee]

Wow, looking good. :woot:
Not just a rare car, but rare connectors on your batteries too! (Lesro's?)
Shame you're so far away it would be great to see that running around our track.
Thanks for sharing!

[Balders]

How did I manage to miss the Tomy! Always wanted one of them when I was a young-un.. :wub

Loving the redness.. red turnbuckles, wheels, spur.... it looks ace! :thumbsup:

[Belsten]

Vintage night this Friday :thumbsup:

[Caine]

Yep, i'm in! Thought i couldn't make it but i can:)

[peetbee]

Ace :thumbsup:

[Caine]

Cant wait:thumbsup:

[Belsten]

hoping to have the xls running for the round after this then I may give a pb a run for the last one :o

[Caine]

Now that would be excellent to see!

[peetbee]

:o:o:wub

[Dyna]

Sorry people, due to my workload i just wont be able to make this week's Vintage Night :cry:

Think of me as your blatting the old beasties around the track, ill be up to my eyeball's at work wishing i was racing the Top Force.....

[mrspeedy]

Just painted up a new shell for the RC10 Team car in my old 90's colours so will be ready to rock on friday :D

[peetbee]

Sorry people, due to my workload i just wont be able to make this week's Vintage Night :cry:

Think of me as your blatting the old beasties around the track, ill be up to my eyeball's at work wishing i was racing the Top Force.....

Noooooooooooooo:thumbdown::cry:

Edit: but yay for mrs peedy!

[Balders]

RC10 is ready to go... or at least I hope it is.. :)

[peetbee]

4 x RC10 this week then?!

[Caine]

Lovely, might be 5, Brian wasn't sure if he was gonna run the pro cat or his team car, got my wing on last night. took 3 attempts to get the wing wire right,duh! New steering on tonight then i'm away:D

[brian s]

i`ll be running the procat again (have put new shell on it),wanted to run a lazer zx but wont have time to sort out the electrics,but i`ll bring the rc10 as well. see you there.

[Caine]

Oh yeah i remember you saying about the lazer as well! Remember to bring those chassis bits you want de-anodized and i'll sort them out for you;)

[brian s]

thought you could`nt make it this week.will bring chassis bits as well.

[JACKOR33]

Gutted matt and his car won't be there had fun chasing him round the track last time! In an attempt to get the firedragon to turn I have fitted the savox servo from my tourer, bought and fitted terra scorcher adjustable upper arms to dial in some camber and got some spikes and mini pins!. If it still doesn't turn i might just turn down the :lol: speedo lol!

[peetbee]

Blimey Dave, this is getting serious!

[Caine]

Crikey, gonna be a beast!
Thought i couldn't make it brian, can't get my head round my missus's shift pattern at the moment!

[JACKOR33]

Lol just read my post back see what you mean pete!
For the record I've only spent £8 on the upper arms which allows me some camber adjustment , u guys all have turnbuckles to adjust my low spec dragon doesn't !
All the tyres and servo are from my other RC cars lol so nothing bought specifically to 'race'
:lol:

[peetbee]

It's just the fact that you've fitted them all to improve performance tho!
If this carries on I may have to replace the worn out parts on my car:lol:

[JACKOR33]

I'd say that having steering is more a vital requirements than performance enhancing lol!

[peetbee]

Pffft, it went fast in straight lines, why do you need more?!:lol:

[peetbee]

My turn to ask for a date change!
I can't make it on the 11th so any chance we could move the next round back to the 18th please?!

[JACKOR33]

Can't do the 18th but can do the 25th:confused:

[Belsten]

Either the 18th or 25th is fine by me, gives me more chance to get the xls up and running

[brian s]

Either date good for me as well pete.

[peetbee]

Thanks guys, sounds like we can go for the 25th then, any objections?

[brian s]

pete, check to see if phil is ok to run on the 25th

[peetbee]

and Liam, Huw, Gaz and Matt! :D

[Caine]

25th is good with me:thumbsup:

[liam]

Should be able to get the XX up and running for the 25th!

[Gaz_Stanton]

18th should be fine. 25th not so sure but won't know until closer to it.

[Dyna]

I'll try to make it, work allowing.... :blush:

[peetbee]

25th it is then!:woot:

[peetbee]

Final round now going to be 22nd April
Changes of car for this round will be me with Dave's Optima Mid and Dave with his Yokomo!!

[JACKOR33]

So the last round is on the all day good friday event???
7 heats and 3 finals...... not sure the car will survive all that abuse (i mean racing) :woot:
Saying that i'm only 1 point ahead of you pete so need to make sure i beat you to keep 2nd place:p

[peetbee]

oh nuts, didn't realise that. No it can't be that day! It'll have to be the 29th unless there's any objections.

[Belsten]

29th is good for me, more time to get the yoke ready, may even have my shell for the xls by then :woot:

[Dyna]

29th is better for me too.

I need to dig out some new gearboxes for the Top Force.... :woot:

[Belsten]

give another car a run mate :thumbsup:

[Dyna]

I just dont have time to prep another Vintage car atm Dave - i can change the Top Force gearboxes quicker than prepping another car :lol:

[brian s]

29th good for me also (pete will it be ok if i tape old tyres around the procat if your running :woot:).

[peetbee]

It's ok Brian, I'll be running Dave's Optima Mid and that's got a hooooge bouncy bumper on the front of it!

[brian s]

i may run a mid custom special then, if i can sort out a new shell

[peetbee]

Fighting fire with fire or something is it?!

[brian s]

not really,i have`nt got as many spares for the procat as i thought, so could well run an optima mid or my rc10 (wont be as quick with it as martyn though).

[peetbee]

I was just joking! :blush:
Martyn was flying with that RC10 :thumbsup:

[brian s]

i think he likes the rc10,wants to run it in the next round as well, so it`s ether the cat or optima for me.