Short Course Shootout 2011 [Archive]

PaulD

19-10-2010, 07:40 PM

After some great racing at a couple of Short Course events this summer, I'd like to try and get a series going for next year.

I'm thinking of maybe a 5 round series, but think it would be good for it to be held at a few different tracks.

So I'm really just posting on here to see if other clubs are interested in trying to make this happen, and ask if they could send me an email or post on this thread.

treasurer@cmcc-online.co.uk

Thanks

Paul Dickens

Coventry Model Car Club

Frecklychimp

19-10-2010, 10:37 PM

Hi Paul,

Great idea :thumbsup:

A1 Racing Club have recently been considering putting the word out to other clubs and launching a series too, since the Carnage meeting we now have 17+ regular SC Trucks at our indoor weekly club meetings and interest is growing.

we will happily support a series and offer to run a round at our venue and welcome working with other clubs and sponsors to promote the class.

Mark.

antnee

23-10-2010, 04:20 PM

Would it be possible to hold all rounds on dirt tracks? As thats what SC's are made for :thumbsup:

Adam Talbot

23-10-2010, 04:24 PM

no mix it up more fun that way just make sure the tracks we go to have some propa jumps!!:D

antnee

24-10-2010, 02:51 PM

If you keep it to the same type of surface, less tyres are needed. I would be up for a series, but don't want to have to buy 5 different tyres.

PaulD

24-10-2010, 10:06 PM

At the moment both A1 and Adur have shown interest, so that would be 2 dirt tracks with astro in places (Adur and Coventry), with A1 being full astro.

Adam Talbot

26-10-2010, 11:18 AM

simple to sort the tyres,just have a control tyre,oooo i just had a thought,wouldnt it be just super if we could gat one of the rounds in doors,on carpet!!!!,can we say wheeeeeelieeees!!!:D

antnee

27-10-2010, 12:32 PM

If others want an indoor round, I'm sure we could sort something out with west bridgford, we do put a good meeting on :)

sime46

27-10-2010, 02:28 PM

I'd go to brigdeford with my new Blitz! Cant wait to have a mess with that.

Frecklychimp

27-10-2010, 03:42 PM

I think the aim of a series is to run on outdoor tracks for a summer series,

although the general concensus at our club is just to get out racing the trucks with everyone else and have a blast.

Would W.Bridgeford club be interested in running an outdoor Short Course meeting on their Summer grass venue?

We are definitely up for the dirt tracks, have only raced the trucks on astro and carpet, so would be interesting to see how we cope with different terrain, hopefully lots of sideways action!

Not sure on a control tyre, was there a particular tyre that came through at the Coventry and Adur dirt meetings?

either way with control tyres, it normally works out that some will already have the right type and the majority will have to buy them for the series.

For our Carnage astro track it seemed the favourite was Fastrax Kourse King spikes, but the astro was a bit damp from heavy rain a few days before, in the dry all kit and aftermarket tyres i've tried work with a bit of set up tinkering and throttle control.

Adam Talbot

28-10-2010, 02:52 PM

and can someone tell me is it a free for all or is there two classes ie:2wd 4wd??

PaulD

28-10-2010, 05:22 PM

and can someone tell me is it a free for all or is there two classes ie:2wd 4wd??

Depending on numbers I think it would be best to split 2wd and 4wd.

Adam Talbot

29-10-2010, 01:07 PM

how about run all in together and just split the points,thing it would be easyer for clubs,and more fun for drivers!.2wd could run like the full size,ie:standard ish! and 4wd could be unlimited.just an idea folks.

Frecklychimp

29-10-2010, 02:19 PM

The most important thing at the minute is getting enough clubs together willing to run a Short Course truck round to be able to offer a really good full multi venue summer series.

The biggest and most popular class will be 2WD Modified SCT, where any motors and mods can be run if desired... big power corrupts the handling on the trucks so it kind of works unlimited.

If there is interest then a stock 2wd class would be best to have to have a hand out/series motor or a brushed wind limit as the different RTR kits come with different motor types as standard, some with 15T/17T 540 and some with 12T 550 motors.

4wd class will be smaller and less popular than 2wd classes, but we are finding the 4wd class is gaining interest at our club... mainly due to one member running a 6.5 7800 KV motor in a Hong Nor 4wd and it being stupidly quick and driveable, not far behind 4wd 1/10th buggy lap times!

Class splits will always depend on entry numbers for each on the day, running them together wouldn't be popular with all drivers, the cars handle differently so the different classes will clash on the track... 4wd cars are a lot heavier so will always come off better when rubbing bumpers!

MALLET

03-11-2010, 10:02 PM

no mix it up more fun that way just make sure the tracks we go to have some propa jumps!!:D

You can try ours for the jumps. :D

sime46

04-11-2010, 07:45 AM

Deffo. Timmys new Astro track would be perfect for short course. Loads of jumps and rhthym sections too. It's got to be on any shortie series calendar. Awesome.

Frecklychimp

04-11-2010, 08:50 PM

NDOR track looks ideal for SCT's with the multiple jumps.

Come on Mallet... get the track booked in for a round in the Short Course Shootout 2011

(maybe biased as i live in Derby so NDOR is closer than my home track which is 50 miles from erm home, think Coventry is closer too!)

I think a few Dirt tracks, a couple of Astro tracks and an indoor round would work, make the championship varied.

A meeting on grass would be good, since there is only one type of spiked tyre it would be naturally controlled!

MALLET

04-11-2010, 10:36 PM

Who do I need to send my details to and I'll have it done. :)

Sorted I'll send it now

MALLET

04-11-2010, 10:42 PM

You can try ours for the jumps. :D

Forgot to put the link up Here it is (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56799)

Frecklychimp

04-11-2010, 10:48 PM

Just send Paul from Coventry club an e.mail if you are keen to put an event on, theres a link at the top of this thread.

Keeping an eye on NDOR meeting info,

When you run a meeting we can race at will pop over with the SCT's and drag the A1 racing Short Course 'Wreckin Crew' along for a play on the new track, looks spot on :thumbsup:

MALLET

05-11-2010, 09:05 AM

Cheers Mark, I'll sort it out with our short course lot :thumbsup: :D

richardj

07-12-2010, 08:39 PM

Any news on how a series is progressing for next year ?

Jono
Pbm Racing
S-M-D
LRP
HONG NOR

PaulD

09-12-2010, 06:52 PM

At the moment we have 6 clubs interested and possibly a couple of sponser's.

We are waiting for the other regional dates to get sorted out, before we arrange the dates.

I'll post a update soon.

Paul

graveltrap

11-12-2010, 12:28 PM

Sounds good Mr D!

Must get that 'new' SC10 built up and ready for action ;)

Adam Talbot

06-01-2011, 10:36 PM

what clubs?did you try and contact jackie at tiverton? there indoor track on that clay some was propa mint with the stadium trucks so i'm guesing the sc's would be to.noda track looks fun with the "little"jumps!!
better get the box of tricks(cheats!) built then!!

Sheepdog

01-03-2011, 08:52 AM

BUMP!! Hey guys, this thread has gone a little quiet, just wondering where it has got to and if any dates have been arranged? :confused: :thumbsup:

graveltrap

01-03-2011, 12:24 PM

I know Paul and Stef are putting lots of work into getting this off the ground, and that something should be announced soon ;)

PaulD

01-03-2011, 05:37 PM

We currently have the 7 round (5 to count) Short Course championship for this summer.

24th April - Moto Arena
26th June - NDOR
15th May - Eden Park
24th July - Adur
21st August - Coventry
11th September - Moto Arena
25th September - A1 Raceway

With the 3 classes for the champion being 2WD, 4WD and Slash (with Slash driver able to race with the open 2WD if they wish).

RadshapeRC are supplying the trophies for the series and we are still have discussions with a couple of further possible sponsers.

More information to follow shortly, but just wanted to let people know the dates and venues.

Paul

mark christopher

01-03-2011, 07:35 PM

truggy lover

01-03-2011, 07:45 PM

need to see more of this i might have to buy one Paul

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb60/truggylover/th_2d657dbf.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb60/truggylover/?action=view&current=2d657dbf.mp4)

axeman

01-03-2011, 08:23 PM

staggard start !!! I don't think so!!!! Mass start every round. only the toughest of trucks can survive...

mattJT

01-03-2011, 09:44 PM

With the 3 classes for the champion being 2WD, 4WD and Slash (with Slash driver able to race with the open 2WD if they wish).

Paul

:thumbsup: Probably the only event where I'll be able to take both my short courses out to play......(how comes slash's have their own class :confused: )

And just wondering at this point if there was any firm'ish ideas around motors/tyre rules for the series?

matt

jimmy

01-03-2011, 09:46 PM

Are any of these tracks dirt?

mattJT

01-03-2011, 09:49 PM

Are any of these tracks dirt?

I think A1 and Adur are, (at top of thread :thumbsup:)

graveltrap

01-03-2011, 10:40 PM

The Coventry round will be run on the dirt track :thumbsup:

Sheepdog

01-03-2011, 11:19 PM

superb!! love the Coventry Astro! keen to try the Dirt!

Paul, please dont think me mr picky just a lttle confused

24th April - Moto Arena
26th June - NDOR
15th May - Eden Park
24th July - Adur
21st August - Coventry
11th September - Moto Arena
25th September - A1 Raceway

Although the June and the May dates are listed the otherway round are the exact dates correct, just so i can plan ahead :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Also if ya need any help please let me know
Phill.

Frecklychimp

01-03-2011, 11:35 PM

A1 Racing Club is Astroturf chaps, we might throw in some other surfaces to mix things up a bit, depending on popularity with us Short Course drivers or championship drivers opinion....

easy tyre choice, its Fastrax
'Kourse Kings' or possible Fastrax 'Bullseye's if they work when we have some to test.

We found that grid starts work best, grid is formed from finishing positions in round before... first round is done at random by computer.

ditto... Why the Slash class seperate? it was only the earlier trucks that came with 2.2" wheels and tyres, I raced a Slash last summer and it was as competitive as the others?!

depending on numbers of entries it would be good to have 2wd and 4wd 'stock' class which run 10.5 and above brushless or brushed equiv, then open classes for the speed freaks... this is how we have set Mid East Regional rules and think it will work well.

If those dates are set in stone now then i'll start spreading the word around the clubs i use, get the feeling this championship is going to be a big hit and establish the class as a popular alternative/complimentary choice for electric off-road racing and a great beginners class.

The 'A1 Wreckin Crew' is going on tour, can't wait! :thumbsup::woot:

telboy

02-03-2011, 12:35 AM

What are the chances of throwing in a class for electric 8th scale?
it seems lots want to race them in a proper series and this would be ideal to run along side the SC's. Seeing as the nitro boys don't want to run with them.

Could run the Slash's with the other classes and put E-8th on?

:thumbsup:

Sheepdog

02-03-2011, 12:32 PM

easy tyre choice, its Fastrax
'Kourse Kings' or possible Fastrax 'Bullseye's if they work when we have some to test.

The bullseyes look great, a pair premounted with soft inserts for £13.49 or £10.19 a pair on theyre own, Kourse Kings £10.19 a pair on theyre own so a reasonable price! happy Days!!! :thumbsup::woot::thumbsup:

graveltrap

02-03-2011, 12:34 PM

If slash owners want to race against everyone else just book in to the relevent open class ;) I don't thing that Short course in the UK is big enough to support, open, stock and single make classes, maybe a good idea for a poll?

Personally I'd leave the 1/8th scale, if another class was to be raced I'd rather it be 1/10th Stadium trucks...

PaulD

02-03-2011, 01:02 PM

Frecklychimp

02-03-2011, 01:04 PM

The bullseyes look great, a pair premounted with soft inserts for £13.49 or £10.19 a pair on theyre own, Kourse Kings £10.19 a pair on theyre own so a reasonable price! happy Days!!! :thumbsup::woot::thumbsup:

I've been running the same set of Kourse Kings on my Hong Nor 4wd with a 6.5T since September!

have done 3 outdoor meetings on Astroturf and at least 9 meetings on carpet and they are still gripping and have spikes on them, what i would call 'half worn'.... think thats value for money!

I think running 1/8th electric and/or 1/10th stadium trucks as support classes would be a great idea.

want to run 1/8th electric buggy/truggy myself at some point but doesn't seem that popular so have held off getting one, makes sense as they are same size as a Short Course truck

I think we will all be surprised at how many Short Course Trucks drivers there are at the minute... with the recent exposure at Worksop and Ardent and the release of more top manufacturer cars recently, the top drivers are now getting the bug and i get the feeling that 2011 will be the year of SCT :thumbsup:

Sheepdog

02-03-2011, 02:55 PM

Nice one Paul!! Cheers, Can let the mrs loose with the holiday brochures now then!! :woot: Well by the looks of it we on the way to some top racing!! Fastrax tyres could be the way to go! Really looking to the series, agree with ya Frecklychimp, gonna be the year for short course!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

mattJT

02-03-2011, 07:03 PM

10.5 and kourse kings :thumbsup: won't need to buy anything new then :thumbsup:

Spose I best work out where all the clubs are from me now then :D

(Likewise have been amazed at the the Kourse Kings durability, bought a 2nd hand set off an oopler a while ago - used them at one race meet, couple of practice sessions and 1 good ol bash in the park session and still look new :thumbsup:)

Fast Eddie

02-03-2011, 07:43 PM

I saw this thread the other day and have now bought a Hong Nor:drool:

Cant wait for this!!!!!! :thumbsup:

It would be a good idea for a local shop to support with spares because I also see this as a chance to vent my rc frustration on a vehicle that can take it (ish):lol:

Adam Talbot

02-03-2011, 11:36 PM

maybe a good idea for a poll???

1/10th Stadium trucks...[/QUOTE],,now your talkin!!! bring back the class!!!

HarlowS

03-03-2011, 09:31 AM

Just out of interest, whats the motor limit if any and how many rounds to count ?

PaulD

03-03-2011, 12:46 PM

are the moto arena in or outdoors?

Mark, the current plan is for the moto arena in April to be indoors and the September one to be outdoors.

Just out of interest, whats the motor limit if any and how many rounds to count ?

Stuart, I'm not proposing any motor limit, as keeping to short course wheels and tyres controls the grip/handling anyway. With 5 out of 7 round to count.

Paul

Teddy truman

03-03-2011, 09:52 PM

looks awsome guys! count me in! :thumbsup: ttrclive would love to come along aswell. just looked at dates and the 2 closest to home at moto arena clash with my 8th scale :) will try be at rest tho!

Richard Lowe

03-03-2011, 10:02 PM

I'm up for some truckin' too :thumbsup:

telboy

04-03-2011, 12:34 AM

My general thought for using 8th electric as a support class is because both classes are suffering from the same thing at the moment which is lack of 'proper' meetings/championships to race them at. So to have the two classes together would make sense. The mags will be covering it, so it produce the right amount of advertising for both classes.

Besides, stadium trucks had their time, and they didn't take off. I think these two classes together would.

mark christopher

04-03-2011, 08:59 AM

To be honest I doubt you will need a support class. Last rears sc meeting was well attended and more have em now.
Longer qual heats and final and you will be full.

Fast Eddie

04-03-2011, 09:48 AM

just booked all the dates off work:thumbsup:

twisty

08-03-2011, 01:20 PM

HPI supports the UK Shortcourse Nationals!

http://www.hpieurope.com/news.php?lang=en&issue=2011030701

The rules are short and simple!

Specfic short course bodies only
2.2"/3" short course tyres only (no rallycross wheels and tyres)
2 cell lipo limit or 7.2V nimh max

:thumbsup:

Fast Eddie

08-03-2011, 11:07 PM

perhaps jumping the gun, how long would each heat be? I run nimh 3300 and need to be sure of my batteries capabilities

simoncrabb

08-03-2011, 11:14 PM

Brilliant idea guys! I'd love to do this if I didn't already have a full plate.

taz5311

12-03-2011, 04:01 PM

We won't be running a control tyre as such but it will be confined to Sct specific wheels and tyres so that those who want to race out of the box can.
The rules are fairly relaxed for the series, and some minor rubbing will be allowed although serious/deliberate bashing will not be accepted.

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson

12-03-2011, 05:27 PM

To be honest I doubt you will need a support class. Last rears sc meeting was well attended and more have em now.
Longer qual heats and final and you will be full.

I think the point was to help get 1/8th electric noticed. Even SC would have been a support class for something at some point, which helped it get noticed and take off....

Having 1/8th electric as a support class, would get people entering that wouldn't have normally entered, and vice versa. Therefore the people turning up to run there one class, may decide they want ago at the other class aswell...Keeping up? lol

Just my thoughts. :p

stevemardave

12-03-2011, 08:34 PM

hi i have just fitted different front hubs on my sc10 but the outside edge of the tyres site out from the bodyshell about 3mm each side , will this still be ok to use with short course rules? steve d

mark christopher

12-03-2011, 08:52 PM

i believe so as long as their sc wheels

stevemardave

12-03-2011, 08:58 PM

yeah im using sct wheel & tyres cheers

Frecklychimp

13-03-2011, 07:56 PM

The first round of this championship is listed as Moto Arena on 24th April...

According to their website there is an indoor on-road Orion winter championship meeting? :confused:

please can an organiser confirm the meeting,

if its expected to run us outside whilst t/c racing is on inside then there will be problems with radio frequencies

Cheers,

Mark.

Fast Eddie

13-03-2011, 09:16 PM

I am hoping to be part of this series with my hong nor and wondered if anyone could advise me on tyre differences and where to purchase them:thumbsup:

Hog

15-03-2011, 04:56 PM

The bullseyes look great, a pair premounted with soft inserts for £13.49 or £10.19 a pair on theyre own, Kourse Kings £10.19 a pair on theyre own so a reasonable price! happy Days!!! :thumbsup::woot::thumbsup:

Where are the Bullseyes available? Need to get some pukka SC wheels and tyres rather than the 1/8th wheels I'm using.

Frecklychimp

15-03-2011, 05:27 PM

here you go Hog

http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.browse&category_id=1282

:thumbsup:

Hog

16-03-2011, 11:10 AM

Thank you Chimp

learnerdriver

16-03-2011, 12:39 PM

The organisers are aware of this date clash and it was discussed at moto arena last night. Your concern was raised and i believe there will be an update in the next few days :-)
The first round of this championship is listed as Moto Arena on 24th April...

According to their website there is an indoor on-road Orion winter championship meeting? :confused:

please can an organiser confirm the meeting,

if its expected to run us outside whilst t/c racing is on inside then there will be problems with radio frequencies

Cheers,

Mark.

Frecklychimp

16-03-2011, 01:24 PM

Thats great, glad someone took notice of the post :thumbsup:

If its a case of not being able to run the SCT's at the venue for the given date and looks like it has been a booking mistake on the venues part, i suggest a venue change rather than a date change...

I know a fair few of our guys (including myself) have booked their work holidays around the dates for this and other BRCA championships, sure there will be other drivers in the same situation.

this is also considering Moto Arena have 2 meetings scheduled for the championship.

Frecklychimp

22-03-2011, 08:37 AM

Any news on what is happening with the venue date clash for the first round?

learnerdriver

23-03-2011, 01:11 PM

Any news on what is happening with the venue date clash for the first round?

I understand a solution has been offered for the short course meeting but I am not sure if this solution is acceptable :-( Unfortunately, one of the organisers is away this week on a training course, so it is unlikely we will have an update before the weekend, sorry !

Fast Eddie

23-03-2011, 08:28 PM

I have booked the dates off work, am i right that the date in question is april 24th, easter sunday?

learnerdriver

23-03-2011, 11:28 PM

I have booked the dates off work, am i right that the date in question is april 24th, easter sunday?

yes, the date in question is april 24th

Hog

24-03-2011, 08:12 AM

How do I book in for the EPR meeting on 15th May?

My Bullseyes arrived yesterday - remind me of the Losi Step Pins. Feel good but will see how they perform - and for appox £13 a pair mounted with foams who can argue with that!

Frecklychimp

24-03-2011, 09:54 AM

Booking in is not open yet, as far as i know!

The Bullseyes are great from what i've heard from our club racers, loads of grip on Astro... only problem is they will have a fairly high wear rate as they are a lot softer than Kourse Kings...

I saw a set on tuesday that had done 2 x 5 minute races on a 4wd truck using Novak 4.5 550 set up and they were probably a third worn on a HoBao 4WD SCT,

probably last a lot better on 2WD as the trucks are a lot lighter.

Fast Eddie

24-03-2011, 11:02 AM

I am competing in this series with a hong nor scrt 10 and wondered which tyres I should buy? Also will spares be at trackside?

Frecklychimp

24-03-2011, 11:28 AM

For EPR, A1 Racing Club and NDOR i'm planning on fastrax Kourse Kings or Bullseyes... for the dirt tracks i guess it will be J concepts subcultures or similar Proline tyres... for Moto Arena i haven't got a clue if we are running indoor or out, think its either mixed carpet/tarmac or grass.

I'm moving from Hong Nor to a Losi 4x4 truck but haven't got it yet... nothing wrong with SCRT10, loved it but fancied a change and always been a Losi fan, hoping the Ten-SCTE kit tyres will work on our dirt tracks so i don't have to buy any!

heard a rumour that Schumacher might be releasing an SCT... fingers crossed they develop minispikes and minipins for SCT wheels, will be better suited for our UK tracks.

Fast Eddie

24-03-2011, 11:33 AM

looking at an ezrun 6000 brushless system for the scrt10, any opinions?:woot:

Fast Eddie

24-03-2011, 11:46 AM

would you guys buy from hk and save money?

Frecklychimp

24-03-2011, 12:56 PM

not really on topic of the thread matey,

for 4WD SCRT-10 you need the highest amp rated speedo you can afford, i was running a Fusion Exceed Comp 150A speedo with 540 size 6.5T motor and it was spiking at over 110 amps so was fine...

really you need to be running a 550 motor in a 4wd, 540 sizes get very hot with the current draw due to car weight and rotating mass of transmission, was running 2 fans on motor to keep it at decent warm running temp.

The 550 will give you more torque for less current draw, although will have to be geared differently to get the best out of it.

learnerdriver

24-03-2011, 01:24 PM

PaulD

24-03-2011, 09:29 PM

How do I book in for the EPR meeting on 15th May?

Booking in is not open yet, as far as i know!

We hope to open booking in as soon as the issue over the 24th April resolved.

learnerdriver

30-03-2011, 12:05 PM

There was a meeting at motoarena last night to discuss the options available and an alternative venue, only a couple of miles away, was also viewed. I understand there will be a decision by the end of the week. It has been very difficult to get all the necessary people around the table to discuss these problems and hope you will bear with us as we want the best for you short course racers :thumbsup:

Frecklychimp

30-03-2011, 04:12 PM

Thanks for the update,

not impressed tbh, online booking in and the website launch are waiting on this c*ck up to be sorted

Bearing in mind this is the first National championship for this class and its pretty vital it is run smoothly to promote the class and make it a future fixture, its not good that the first planned meeting has been double booked and it took an outside driver to point it out months after the dates were announced.

A1 Racing Club had a chat last night and we are prepared to take on the date and the meeting if this carries on for much longer... Our track will be brand new as that is the proposed launch date after building the new 1/10th track.

learnerdriver

30-03-2011, 05:36 PM

I appreciate your frustrations and concerns - they are same as the organisers and I have also been suffering. They have been let down badly on the initial date and unfortunately it has taken longer than anticipated to resolve. The principle aim is to still run on the 24th april, ideally at motoarena or within 5 miles of motoarena. The alternative venue exists and is available. However, the club has to confirm the date with their landlord before it can be officially announced.

It is noted that you have offered to host the meeting but also that your venue is not close to motoarena.

It would help if we could gauge interest ie expected numbers, so perhaps we could start a new thread "who is hoping to go to round 1 of the short course shootout on 24th april" giving your name and class to be raced to start with.

I hope this answers any concerns you have at present.

Frecklychimp

30-03-2011, 06:01 PM

It is noted that you have offered to host the meeting but also that your venue is not close to motoarena.

It would help if we could gauge interest ie expected numbers, so perhaps we could start a new thread "who is hoping to go to round 1 of the short course shootout on 24th april" giving your name and class to be raced to start with.

I'm not interested in Moto Arena or their organisational problems, they are obviously not taking our proposed championship seriously or it wouldn't be an issue or taken as long to be addressed :thumbdown:

all i want to do is race my trucks in this championship on the dates originally advertised, just like the majority of the drivers competing in this championship will agree...

I want to know where i will be racing that day, so i can arrange a room for a night if its a fair distance like a couple of the rounds are.

Whats more important is that the event happens and there is enough time to promote it to get the most interest... especially since sponsors are involved.

i know for a fact that online booking in and the series website is waiting on venue/date confirmation from organisers which has to come from Moto Arena before it can be launched.

The new thread is a good idea, but the driver interest should be irrelevant if the championship is already arranged, I would hope that it will be a good turn out... but being Easter may effect the turnout from family drivers.

learnerdriver

30-03-2011, 06:35 PM

I hear what you are saying but am merely trying to keep you in the loop with the information I know.

The organisers have been discussing the situation with all concerned parties for the past week and a half but were only all available last night and went to motoarena to check the track and the proposed arrangements. They then went to an alternative venue at silverstone club in the village of silverstone to talk to their committee about possibly hosting this event at their track. The talks were very productive and encouraging at silverstone, however a final decision cannot be made until the club have discussed it ultimately with their landlord.

Option 1 - the event will be held at motoarena
Option 2 - the event will be held at silverstone club
Option 3 - the event will be held at another venue

Most drivers have expressed a desire to have the event at or near to motoarena which the organisers are trying to achieve. They all work and carry out these roles voluntarily and have been trying their hardest to resolve this problem as quickly as possible.

I appreciate that an answer is needed asap in order to complete the website and online booking and that is what they are trying to achieve. I hope the additional details will allay any concerns.

Frecklychimp

30-03-2011, 07:06 PM

The organisers have been discussing the situation with all concerned parties for the past week and a half

Most drivers have expressed a desire to have the event at or near to motoarena

Are these organisers you mention, the organisers of the national short course shootout or Moto Arena event organisers?

considering A1 Racing Club have 20+ SCT's in our club and we are running a round of the championship... can't recall being asked for an opinion on venue choice?

I'm more concerned about the first round of the first proper series for SCT's in UK being a badly promoted low turnout shambles and ruining the interest and hype in the class because of a venues mistake and very slow resolution of the mistake.

I'm pretty sure that other clubs could step in to save the meeting also, but its getting short notice for spreading the word... magazine coverage needs plenty of notice and one of the sponsors have already been advertising the dates without being able to recieve the back up from the series website etc.

There are no excuses, its not hard to use a calendar or a diary... if i hadn't have noticed the date clash, how long would it have been before it was noticed?

IMO cancel/postpone the Moto Arena touring car meeting and run the SCT's as first intended, but i understand that its not as easy as that.

The drivers interested in racing in a national series shouldn't be too concerned about the locations of the series rounds, but more interested in when and where the rounds are, with enough notice and being able to book in to confirm their attendance at the event.

I'm not personally attacking you and appreciate you are communicating the info you have... sure you are as frustrated with not being able to give us some good news of a final decision... but i also have a fair few of our SCT members quizzing me on whether the meeting is on as first advertised so they can arrange travelling and work schedules etc, plus booking in!

taz5311

30-03-2011, 08:08 PM

Hi All,
As one of the organisers of the series (no I am not part of the M/A staff) I can confirm that the first round will be held on the 24th as advertised. We will be able to announce the venue for this by the end of this week and this will be pushed out to all the advertising outlets available to us.
Believe me I want to race my sc as much as anyone and that was our reason for this series, and the delays have frustrated me a great deal.

I appreciate that this has been a frustrating time and believe me I have felt the very same frustration.

Unfortunately we can not postpone the orion series that is why we have been looking at an alternative venue. As learner driver has said it is within 5 miles (ish) of M/A so there should be no need for anyone to change any travel arrangements they have made.
Please be assured we are working as hard as we can to get this series taken seriously and to use it as a platform to promote this fun and exciting class.

HarlowS

30-03-2011, 09:12 PM

With a few clubs having different tracks, can someone announce the clubs and surfaces that the meetings will be on ?? Grass, Dirt, Carpet etc. ??

learnerdriver

30-03-2011, 09:50 PM

My understanding is the following:
24th April - Moto Arena dirt or silverstone astro
15th May - Eden Park astro
26th June - NDOR astro
24th July - Adur dirt and astro
21st August - Coventry dirt
11th September - Moto Arena dirt or indoor multi surface
25th September - A1 Raceway dirt and astro ??

hopefully the respective clubs will correct as necessary ;)

telboy

04-04-2011, 09:18 PM

Freckly, I think the idea behind the changes would be to move the venue to the silverstone buggy track. This way people who have booked hotels etc. around that area, can still keep their bookings.
Thats how I would look at it anyway.

Frecklychimp

05-04-2011, 04:58 AM

Thats no problem Tel,

Have absolutely no issues with racing at Moto Arena or Silverstone buggy club, as long as the meeting happens, then i'm a happy trucker! :thumbsup:

Was more worried that there was no real positive answers to sorting the c*ck up out very quickly from organisers and don't want the championship suffering because of a poor organisational error...

One concern with the delays on announcements was that we all know about the championship and dates being Ooplers....

does everyone else that doesn't use this forum or even internet but still race SCT's and read magazines, rely on word of mouth, their club members etc?

telboy

05-04-2011, 01:13 PM

:)

The only thing that concerns me is the fact that theres only 3 weeks before the beginning of a national (technically) series and theres no booking in. lol
:eh?:

Surely the booking in can be sorted for 'round 1' rather than specifically moto arena.? that way we all know we're in?
then the drivers list can just be passed onto the relavent club?

taz5311

05-04-2011, 02:48 PM

Freckly, as one of the organisers I can assure you that we have been working hard to resolve this clash since we were made aware of it.
We have had to speak to a number of people and ensure that we could get the change done with as little hassle as possible.
I do not have the computer skills to be able to set up a web-site myself but someone is in the process of finishing this off, the delay has been to try to ensure we have everything as right as possible. I will speak to him and get the web-site live ASAP.
The series will be going ahead and hope that ooplers as you call yourselves will help spread the word, but we will be pushing this as hard as we can to all available media outlets.

Fast Eddie

05-04-2011, 10:24 PM

quick change of subject:)

just fitted a 5.5 to my scrt10..... its fast, very fast :woot::woot:

see you all at the first meeting:thumbsup::thumbsup:

telboy

06-04-2011, 10:32 AM

Am I right in saying that this is the series being part organised by RRCi?:eh?:

Who is the actual organising team behind the series?

mk2kompressor

06-04-2011, 12:01 PM

Frecklychimp

06-04-2011, 01:34 PM

can someone get Stef to call me regarding this event?
As far as Moto-Arena is concerned the first round is still a go, the track is being prepared and finished off for what will be an awsome event:thumbsup:

Are there any pics of the track so far?

What surface is it?

do you know what tyres will work on it, since most of us will need to sort out buying tyres ?

Will it be available on the Saturday for practice/set up?

graveltrap

06-04-2011, 04:44 PM

Am I right in saying that this is the series being part organised by RRCi?:eh?:

Who is the actual organising team behind the series?

RRCi was initially involved, but they have taken a major back seat. All the organisation has been done by Paul D and Stef (Taz5311).

They have taken this onboard as they want to race trucks with like minded individuals, any help offered from any quarter would no doubt be gladly excepted!!

panch

06-04-2011, 08:14 PM

Are there any pics of the track so far?

What surface is it?

do you know what tyres will work on it, since most of us will need to sort out buying tyres ?

Will it be available on the Saturday for practice/set up?

According to Learnerdriver above it is going to be run on the Dirt track at Moto arena..

Tyre wise these all work very well on dirt depending on the weather conditions I used a mixture of these...

http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/catalogue.php?brand=HB&pg=W10SC

Hope that helps :thumbsup:

learnerdriver

06-04-2011, 09:11 PM

According to Learnerdriver above it is going to be run on the Dirt track at Moto arena..

Tyre wise these all work very well on dirt depending on the weather conditions I used a mixture of these...

http://www.hpiracing.co.uk/catalogue.php?brand=HB&pg=W10SC

Hope that helps :thumbsup:

PLEASE DONT MIS-QUOTE ME :(

24th April - Moto Arena dirt or silverstone astro

IS ACTUALLY WHAT I SAID ;)

Frecklychimp

06-04-2011, 09:15 PM

Cheers Panch,

At £15 a pair and running 4WD (so same tyres all round) i want to make sure i'm buying something useful if needed.

Have got a set of J Concepts subcultures available to use and there should be a fair few sets of Blitz kit tyres available as our lot just use spikes indoors and outdoors.

The kit Losi 4x4 SCT tyres look and feel nice but whether the pattern works is something else...

This is why i wanted to know if practice was available day before first round to get a base set up.

haven't got any local dirt tracks to try and there will be differences in grip with dirt at different tracks... we have very thick clay at our track which when dry gives awesome grip with most soft pin type tyres as you get a blue groove.

Ignore the last bit though when choosing tyres for A1 Racing Club track.. because it has been covered in Astroturf for last 2 years, so a set of Koarse Kings and you are dialled! Bullseyes are very good but won't last long on Astro looking at wear rate after one 5 minute run... maybe better on grass.

panch

07-04-2011, 07:00 AM

PLEASE DONT MIS-QUOTE ME :(

IS ACTUALLY WHAT I SAID ;)

Hi Learner, It wasn't intentional, There was a quote from M2kompressor saying Moto Arena was still a go, the question was...what surface will be ran on?

So I said moto arena will be ran on dirt as you said above, which you did !

Anyway..no probs :thumbsup:

taz5311

10-04-2011, 05:15 PM

Hi ALL,
Just to clear up any confusion, round 1 will be held at silverstone buggy club located in the village.
If you go to www.ukshortcourse.com (http://www.ukshortcourse.com) Which is now live you can get all the details from there.:thumbsup:
Please encourage as many club members to book in for the series as possible, lets make this a really successful new series for an excellent class.