Schumacher Meeting Rd2 at Worksop

[muzzy]

Hi all, we once again have quite a few entries already pre booked for round 2 coming up on the 28th Oct, however as there has been these postal strikes we may not have received your entry so if you haven't had confirmation back from us but did include a sae then pm me and I can confirm if we have your entry or not. Also anyone not already pre booked, you may send me a pm over here and I shall book you in and then you can just pay on the day, please try and book in at least a day or so before the event where possible, rather than me getting lots of entries late sat night.
Hope to see you there ;)
Mark

[Danny McGee]

Who's going to this one.

I will be there with the 2wd again.

Danny

[Richard Lowe]

Probably 4wd again for me :D

[Robfo]

I'll be there, i'm aiming for 2nd Losi in 2wd again:D

[super__dan]

Hope too, if it's looking good for entries I might try to do both classes again as I enjoyed flogging myself to death all day in a perverse way. Much easier if 8 or 9 heats.

[mark christopher]

me so come get your mug shots

oh and a big thing to say, i won a 5.5 brushless motor, but was the 4th to be pulled out of the hat in the 4wd b final, those who went home missed winning it

to them i thank you

[telboy]

I'll be going and trying to get the kyosho to go well again.;)

Hopefully, I will be put in a better heat this time.....eh Muzzy!? ..nudge, nudge.;)

[Tim Ward]

Me & Steve C will be there again. If Tel goes up I'd better too! Then again - I do the entries so i may be able to swing it!! Only joking - Muzzy makes these decisions! ;)

[Chrislong]

I have just PM'd Muzzy, so will be there again - with 2wd.

McGee/Muzzy, if you need a hand on Saturday with the track building, I 'may' be able to be persuaded to lend a hand... ;)

[mark christopher]

muzzy is now "away" and has no net for 2 weeks, yes he would like a hand building the track, leon and johny ae not able to make it, providing the whole entry does not turn up, mark "muzzy" has offered those who do a free entry.
i think we now have danny chris and tel offering

[James]

I should be there as usual..:yawn:
JH

[Tim Ward]

Funny how things turn out a?

Muzzy has asked me to do the booking in while he is away. In light of Royal Mail delays you can PM your entries. Please include your name, details of ability (1 to 10, 10=Expert), Xtals (or 2.4GHz), PT No. and at least a phone number.


Cheers All! I shall now be in the top heat! NOT;)

[Northy]

Will the new Schumacher 4wd be there? :confused:

G

[telboy]

I'll be there to help build the track, so who else will there be giving us a hand?
Muzzy is going to let me know what time to be there, as soon as he does I'll let you all know.

Hey Tim, put me in a bette heat will you matey. I think muzzy was testing me last time. :)

[Northy]

How about a heat of Vintage Schumacher cars? I have the ProCat sat in front of me here :D:D:D

G

[Stu]

I'll go there, XLS.

[mark christopher]

I'll be there to help build the track, so who else will there be giving us a hand?
Muzzy is going to let me know what time to be there, as soon as he does I'll let you all know.

Hey Tim, put me in a bette heat will you matey. I think muzzy was testing me last time. :) tell post ten plus james heliwell


muzzy has told me some carpet has been purchased to help with track design and protect the mats!

[Danny McGee]

tell post ten plus james heliwell


muzzy has told me some carpet has been purchased to help with track design and protect the mats!


Winner that will come in handy when we do the Jumps this time :)

[Tim Ward]

Entry List attached :D Updated 23th Oct 07 @ 14:31

Keep them coming!!

A few entry forms have gone travelling with Muzzy - if you want to get on the list PM me - but if you sent a form don't worry you will get a place!

[Lee Martin]

As i have just been informed. this meeting can not run surely????????

BRCA rules and all????????

so im told' dnt hold me to it, as im put in the saem boat.

[Chrislong]

Pidge, Going by your update on the CML thread, its only Regionals and nationals which can't be held on BRCA AGM day - therefore both this and your series are okay to be ran as planned.. ?

[mark christopher]

As i have just been informed. this meeting can not run surely????????

BRCA rules and all????????

so im told' dnt hold me to it, as im put in the saem boat.
untrue fact
dam beat to it

[Lee Martin]

i kno...thats why i reposted.

[Danny McGee]

i kno...thats why i reposted.

Ho Mo!

[RLGfx]

Hi Tim,

Did you get the entry i sent by PM? :)

Cheers

Rob

[Tim Ward]

RLGfx - I certainly did. I have entered you on the computer thingy!

See you on the 28th

[Tim Ward]

Entry list in earlier post now updated.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=65170&postcount=19

[telboy]

Right,
Those of you that have volunteered to help with the track building next week, the centre will let us in at 5pm to get the work done. Muzzy has asked me to let you all know.

See you there.;)

[jimmy]

oops, I had it in my head it was this sunday :wtf:

[Danny McGee]

Just looked at the entry list. Im sure we can do better than that. What about Skeldin etc, Ashton, Matt White, Moss, Greenwood, Collinson's, woody, Sloppy? erm think, think, im sure we can make this a very big meeting like it should be. I'll see if tricky, cragg etc can make it too.

Any ideas who else can make an appearance.

Add ur 2 penny worth and lets get the ball rolling

Danny

[antnee]

i am :D

[Northy]

I'll be there Danny if I don't have to go to the AGM.

G

[telboy]

'twould be nice to see some bigger names there too.

I know some will not book in until on the morning.

But If you are coming let tim know then we can see the numbers growing.

[mark christopher]

Just looked at the entry list. Im sure we can do better than that. What about Skeldin etc, Ashton, Matt White, Moss, Greenwood, Collinson's, woody, Sloppy? erm think, think, im sure we can make this a very big meeting like it should be. I'll see if tricky, cragg etc can make it too.

Any ideas who else can make an appearance.

Add ur 2 penny worth and lets get the ball rolling

Danny
there was a slight error when booking the hall, and some confusion/oversight re the BRCA agm, so muzzy knew this meeting was going to be a lower than normal entry.


some good news, the ED of Radio Race Car has sent me some free subsciptions, one for each round as a prize, im open to sugestions as to how to select the winner of the sub for round 1

[Danny McGee]

Why not drop an email to Racer. may be able to help too???? Just a thought

[mark christopher]

Why not drop an email to Racer. may be able to help too???? Just a thought
Danny

cuz i write the reports and work under RRCI and they are suporting the series ;)

who is racer anyhow ???:p

[Danny McGee]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, well when the one coming out that did the last meeting. Should prob send that to mum an dad to show em im still racing lol

:)

[antnee]

there was a slight error when booking the hall, and some confusion/oversight re the BRCA agm, so muzzy knew this meeting was going to be a lower than normal entry.


some good news, the ED of Radio Race Car has sent me some free subsciptions, one for each round as a prize, im open to sugestions as to how to select the winner of the sub for round 1
Best crashes?

rob jaques should win the round one sub hands down!

[Chrislong]

Im off to York tonight, I'll see if a few of their members are coming and remind them to PM Tim Ward asap.

[wacattack]

I cant make this one unfrotunately as im taking the wife to see phantom of the opera (anyone got any good medication to stop you from falling asleep?!!?!)

Craig I also think wont be going as he said he prob isnt going to race until he gets his new car (prob a b4)!!

[Chrislong]

Don't fight it Wayne, just take a pillow, earplugs and blindfold. She'll wake you up when its over.

[wacattack]

Don't fight it Wayne, just take a pillow, earplugs and blindfold. She'll wake you up when its over.

I suppose I would need to keep the earplugs in once it had finished due to the barage of abuse being hurled at me for falling asleep!! :D

[telboy]

Mark,How about having a long jump competition.

We'll place the big jump in a 'non dangerous' possition and see who can jump the furthest.:D In between the heats and finals.

I'm being serious by the way.:rolleyes:

[RLGfx]

i am sooooo up for that!

[super__dan]

I'm coming, defo in for the jump competition

[Slimboyfat]

count me in too!

[RLGfx]

I'm coming, defo in for the jump competition

are you really that excited? :eh?:

[Tim Ward]

Im off to York tonight, I'll see if a few of their members are coming and remind them to PM Tim Ward asap.

I'm also driving to York tonight - so anyone who is there can give me their details there and then!

...but no laughing at my driving or I may sulk;)

[Chrislong]

I'm also driving to York tonight - so anyone who is there can give me their details there and then!

...but no laughing at my driving or I may sulk;)

ha ha, you'll be fine. :D honest

[Richard Lowe]

Mark,How about having a long jump competition.
It won't be a competition if Tom Cockerill turns up :p

[mark christopher]

Mark,How about having a long jump competition.

We'll place the big jump in a 'non dangerous' possition and see who can jump the furthest.:D In between the heats and finals.

I'm being serious by the way.:rolleyes:
round one has to be for round one drivers.

muzzy can choose what to do with the remaining 7 free subs as its one per round!

[telboy]

Well, sounds like a good idea then.:D

But if you win one, then win another the next month you have to give the subscription to the 2nd place man.

other wise cockers could end up with RRCi subs for then next 7 years!:D

Go on Mark, you know it makes sense.

[Danny McGee]

Can we split the jump into two section. 4wd and 2wd. oh and you have to land it and drive away unharmed. I think that will be fair dont you. If not im attaching wings and a propeller :D

[MattW]

Think i'll be at AGM.

[PaulRotheram]

Will bookings be allowed on the day? I'm considering going but waiting for the post to hurry up and deliver my shell + other parts i need.

can anyone give me a start time + entry fee also?

[antnee]

entry fee is a tenner, i think doors open at 7, racing starts at 9 i think

[PaulRotheram]

9? ooh, if im allowed to book on the day i may well come!

[Slimboyfat]

will there be any shops attending for the usual stuff like wheels/tyres etc??

[antnee]

yeah andy from phil booth's will be there

[Tim Ward]

Updated entry list on page one of this thread. Now stands at 58 total, 30 2WD, 28 4WD.

Should be a great day!

[Stu]

Tim, you have PM with a couple more entries.

I think I have PM'd the right person this time. :wtf:

[Northy]

Tim, you have Jim Dixon in 2wd, I think he is doing 4wd. I will get him to confirm with you.

G

[Danny McGee]

Not to long now :D

Im sure there are more people that are yet to bugg about going to this meeting. Anybody know if Woody is going? The collinsons? Moss? etc!

Also with regards to the track, I was thinking about making the straight a little narrower to allow more room infield, errecting the big jump so that it CAN be done every lap, without the double bounce (ending on on your roof) The carpet that they now have would be good to lay over the jumps again to make them more consistant. I know ive asked this before just getting a final check on it all really. Is there anything that people DO NOT want to see on the track (apart from a touring car) lol

Discuss!

[grindog]

Mossy isnt going, tied up at work on sundays till after christmas

[WHITTLER555]

Please could somebody put the address of the venue up?

Sorry if this has been requested before but I can't find it.:confused:

[Stu]

Yeah - good call. I can't remember where I went yesterday, never mind 5 years ago.

[antnee]

as for track, dont have the second corner how it was last time, just move it somewhere else. :)

[Danny McGee]

http://www.nnca.org.uk/

[Stu]

Grimethorpe Colliery (UK Coal) Brass Band, that sounds ace.

[wacattack]

Not to long now :D

Im sure there are more people that are yet to bugg about going to this meeting. Anybody know if Woody is going? The collinsons? Moss? etc!

Also with regards to the track, I was thinking about making the straight a little narrower to allow more room infield, errecting the big jump so that it CAN be done every lap, without the double bounce (ending on on your roof) The carpet that they now have would be good to lay over the jumps again to make them more consistant. I know ive asked this before just getting a final check on it all really. Is there anything that people DO NOT want to see on the track (apart from a touring car) lol

Discuss!

Collinsons "us" will not be going to this one. I (wayne) am in london and Craig isnt racing again apparantly until he has his new 2wd (I have no idea why!!)

[Richard Lowe]

What about his elastic band car?

[mark christopher]

can i make a request please

the winners of finals and classes/ftd men find me or hang round for me to take a mug shot please with your cars!

request by the ed!

Mark

[Chrislong]

as for track, dont have the second corner how it was last time, just move it somewhere else. :)

Yeh thats a good one, it wasn't easy to judge was it.

Well I am also going with Danny and Tom Cockerill, so there should be no oversights like this. No double bouncing. No unmashabable bits.

But do keep the idea's flowing, and we'll do the best we can without making it so tough its hard to do a clean lap.

[antnee]

can we have a bigger table top jump? and not have the infield as tight, i like fast and flowing

[telboy]

the winners of finals and classes/ftd men find me or hang round for me to take a mug shot please with your cars!


That because, at don valley at the weekend, everyone buggered off home to watch the grand prix, and there were only two winners there for photos.:rolleyes: Despite john askin twice for people to stay for presentation.

[Danny McGee]

With regards to the jump. Its going to be big! But also very " do able" and should be nice on the cars. Im thinking of having it quite high and then having a two teard downslope so you can hit either if you wanna give it a bit more beans :D

I think the track will be a lil bit different this time. I just hope everyone likes it.

AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR TIME will be fun

danny

[Northy]

Not to tight, but not a 'flat out he who pays nothing for his stuff and has the biggest balls will win' track please Danny. Something where the drivers skill is involved in what time they get :D

Cheers,

G

[Northy]

Would anyone from Schumacher like to bring me a ProCat bodyshell and undertray? :confused::confused::D

Cheers,

G

[DaveG28]

HI All,

Does anyone have any directions for wherever the worksop track is or a postcode!?

I am entered, but haven't had a confirmation letter back so no idea where it is!??

[telboy]

look at danny's post number 68 above.:)

[mark christopher]

if you carnt find it with this lot you aint going to get there

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=61939&postcount=32

[mark christopher]

oh and dont forget to alter your clocks sat night!!

[telboy]

aah, nice tip mr christohper. I'd forgotten about that.

[Swiss]

Mr Ward u have a PM, regarding booking in for Sunday...

An extra 4!

Paul

[Tim Ward]

OK everyone - as I am supposed to be away and my better half has begun to question my regular visits to the WiFi Cafe for an hour or so pre-entry now closed.

You can still enter on the day.

List now too large to post!! Sorry - everyone who has PMd is on the list - see you Sunday!

[DaveG28]

Guys,

When is booking in and when is the latest I can arrive, 7AM is bbaaadddd!!

[wacattack]

Entry List attached :D Updated 23th Oct 07 @ 14:31

Keep them coming!!

A few entry forms have gone travelling with Muzzy - if you want to get on the list PM me - but if you sent a form don't worry you will get a place!
#
jkjk

[muzzy]

Ok everyone as Tim says its been busy for us with the amount of entries we are getting for this, (especially as he is on holiday at the min) now if you aren't already booked in for tomorrow then either come and book in with us in the morning, or send me ALL your entry details through here by pm and I shall check ONCE more later on this afternoon for any more entries, and will book you in. ;)
See you there
Mark

[telboy]

Just got back from the centre. The other guys were still there when I left.
The track looks AWESOME, and it drivs well too. The big jump is freindlier to the cars. an interesting section as you come back towards the rostrum...I'll let you see it tomorow.

But its more flowing. and better to drive.

You will all enjoy yourself tomorrow I will guarauntee you that.;)

[Richard Lowe]

You havn't been getting some sneaky practice in have you Tel? :p

[antnee]

oooo, sounds good, *touchwood* wont break anything this time like i did last time

btw, is the tabletop jump bigger?

[PaulRotheram]

You havn't been getting some sneaky practice in have you Tel? :p

Track builders are allowed to, mr muzz said so :p

[matdodd]

You had a go then aswell mate? ;)

[PaulRotheram]

noo chance man, i'm still in liverpool.. with an alarm set for 5am :(. I'm looking forward to tommorrow though :)

[matdodd]

I know what you mean ive gone for 5.30 :p

[Slimboyfat]

4.30am for me.....though im not driving so not so bad.

[matdodd]

what time you getin there mate? U doin 4wd?

[antnee]

woo, im setting mine for 6, being picked up at 6.45:o

[Slimboyfat]

what time you getin there mate? U doin 4wd?


just leaving now prob be there about 7.30, yeah 4wd mate.

[James]

Last nights track building escapades, see youtube vid below...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rkpqEoLyW1g

Hope you all liked the track, any improvements please let us know..!

James

[antnee]

track was great!!

well run once again, well done muzzy, same again next time!

[mark christopher]

to be honest it was awsome, im no off road expert but was 100% good track and meeting running

well done all

[super__dan]

It was an excellent track and excellent meeting, I really look forward to Worksop now more than any other indoor venue.

My (and some others) only bug bear on the day was that some of the marshalling was dreadfull. In round 3 after waiting for 5 secs for a marshall I actually had to get off the rostrum to marshall my own car and there was a guy who seemed scared to go on track to marshall. In our own little huddle we put this down to ex touring car racers, is this fair? ;)

[Stu]

Yeah, you are right Dan - I have to add though that it's no reflection on the club, just the marshals themselves, who are after all 'us'.

Today was my first visit back to Worksop since the 'old-days', I had forgotton just how good that surface is.

Very good track layout also, easy to get round but difficult to get round fast.

[PaulRotheram]

Great day today, track was ace - do-able, but i seemed to be one of the few who found the big jump in front of the rostrum hard. I couldnt seem to judge it right.. blah.
Track was really good though, flowing and lots of opportunity to make time up.

Thanks to the organisers to bumping me up a few heats also, made the day alot better for sure!
I agree with the marsheling, quite poor really, but there's not alot that can be done.

Ace drive home too, couldnt stop laughing for most of it! Did stan beat the boy racer?

[Richard Lowe]

The track was ace today, really good fun to drive. The jumps were really flowing, when you nailed every downslope it was so satisfying :)


Has anyone ever heard of a Novak rotor's sintered magnet falling apart? I think that's what happened to my motor in the final, I havn't taken it apart yet. Bit of a shame after a clean sweep in qually :(

What the heck is it with my cars and brushless!? :mad:

2x LRP, 3x Novak dead within 6 months :o :o :o

[super__dan]

Just in case it came across that way, I too don't blame the club. The organisers seem to work VERY hard indeed on a club day to kepp us all happy. I for one am VERY pleased the indoor finals are going to be there this year!.

I do think numbered marshal points are the future though as when I had to marshal myself it was becasue the was no marshal to the right of the rostrum, and it's difficult to spot anyone that's not marshalled if people can marshal anywhere each round.

[mark christopher]

good news too is they are holding the indoor finals!

[Tim Ward]

Really glad everyone enjoyed the day. The feedback is much appreciated. Certainly Muzzy worked very hard and deserves the pat on the back you guys have just given him.

Thanks everyone for coming and making it such an awesome day!

[Chrislong]

There is soooo much work involved in running an event, Muzzy really deserves a lot of appreciation, and the rest of the committee too.

I loved the track, was soooooo flowing, and the jumps all had a 'way' to do them, and once in a rythem the laptimes plummeted - very rewarding to get right. Nothing too dificult, but nothing too easy either. The triple worked well I think.

Right then, any critism id like to hear, honestly. I'll be assisting with the track and layout again, and will take onboard any ideas... :)

[mark christopher]

The track was ace today, really good fun to drive. The jumps were really flowing, when you nailed every downslope it was so satisfying :)


Has anyone ever heard of a Novak rotor's sintered magnet falling apart? I think that's what happened to my motor in the final, I havn't taken it apart yet. Bit of a shame after a clean sweep in qually :(

What the heck is it with my cars and brushless!? :mad:

2x LRP, 3x Novak dead within 6 months :o :o :o
could be your belly flops from the jumps :D

[DaveG28]

Loved the track guys, especially having the fast long long corner at the end of the main straight! Had a great day, and thanks to everyone involved!

With the marshalling, I found it ok to be honest although I think sometimes the marshalls weren't sure when to "get involved" after the big jump as so many cars (including mine!) bounced around off the track but
then were able to rejoin without being marshalled. Plus the guy from my heat who marshalled the end of the straight was awesome, never saw such quick marshalling!

Marshalling is very up and down at meetings, but we all also need to be patient, I had a guy crash in front of me, and although I was out of the seat straight away, because I let 2 cars that were coming through go past before crossing the track the guy was shouting on the rostrum! Maybe its just me but I thought we weren't meant to run across the track if cars were crossingat that moment!?

Wow, I have gone on! One possible suggestion to improve marshalling, make one of the prizes for best marshall during the day!!??

Dave

[Chrislong]

Wow, I have gone on! One possible suggestion to improve marshalling, make one of the prizes for best marshall during the day!!??



Hmmm, good idea! Nominated by the racers?

[mark christopher]

could ask muzzy to let the prize be the 12 month subs to rrci, if its what all want to do

[jimmy]

my back and my knee were giving me a lot of pain when I was marshalling - so there should be a 'special' award for us oldies who aren't as mobile anymore :(


I wasn't enjoying the racing until rd4 when I finally got the car going well- I managed to go from 8th to 2nd in my final but wasn't quite able to take the win as I just kept making the same silly mistake and turning-in too early :rolleyes:
good track but I did prefer it on mini spikes! ;)

[PaulRotheram]

That reminds me..

How come the tyres are 'specd' to front AND rear? In BRCA nationals we only limit the rear axle don't we? I'd of thought it'd of been the same for this meeting too, as some people prefer different choices, like jimmy found minispikes on the front to work better for him.

[matdodd]

Has anyone ever heard of a Novak rotor's sintered magnet falling apart? I think that's what happened to my motor in the final, I havn't taken it apart yet. Bit of a shame after a clean sweep in qually :(


It was a shame Rich I didnt realise you broke it till after I finished, It was lookin like it could of been fun till we both crashed! you were goin for big air though when you were chasein maybe a bearing or somthing failed!

Like I said to Danny today I thought the lads did a great job wth the track & the jumps were well thought out!
The only down side was the marshalling, in round 1 my heat only had 4 marshalls :confused: Thanks to the 2wd top heat for covering after that though ;)

[bigred5765]

great day, great track, loved the whole day,
great big thumbs up to all involved

[Richard Lowe]

It was a shame Rich I didnt realise you broke it till after I finished, It was lookin like it could of been fun till we both crashed! you were goin for big air though when you were chasein maybe a bearing or somthing failed!
Yeah I tried to one-way it back onto the wheels mid-roll but then 'click' - no drive. The magnet has turned to dust inside the can, I thought these sintered rotors were indestructible?! Everything else is fine, it's just the rotor that went pop :(

Congrats on the win btw :)

[Chrislong]

Yeah I tried to one-way it back onto the wheels mid-roll but then 'click' - no drive. The magnet has turned to dust inside the can, I thought these sintered rotors were indestructible?! Everything else is fine, it's just the rotor that went pop :(

Congrats on the win btw :)

Rich, your just an animal. They are just about every-proof, bar Rich-proof. :D

[Danny McGee]

Glad to hear that everyone was happy with the layout of the track. With regards to the big jump i think next time the down slope will be better. (i.e double layered wood all the way on the down slope)

Already looking forward to the next one, especially as now the indoor nats are there. Should have more people interested :D

All good

Danny

[telboy]

my back and my knee were giving me a lot of pain when I was marshalling - so there should be a 'special' award for us oldies who aren't as mobile anymore :(

Well jimmy, funny you should say that. as soon as I hit 34 my lags have been giving me the same problems.:D.....no, seriously.:rolleyes:

I thought the track was ace...well I would do wouldn't I? But I think although it was faster than the last one, it did provide you with more overtaking opportunities, which is good. The jump in from of the rostrum was loads better to land but can still be improved on. Maybe boards to cover the whole of the downslope would be better.

Good to see the turn out too, Loads more than expected.

I had quite a good day, I managed to get the RB5 working well. mid 'c' but a mare of a final, managing to break one of the mega thick atomic carbon shock towers!:wtf:

The problem with the marshalling to the right of the rostrum, was that someone kept moving the chair that the marshal should have sat on.

We did have some numbers for the marshal chairs but never got round to putting them on. We'll make sure they're done for next time.;)

Some of the marshalls did seem a little scared of the job in hand sometimes, no fully sure why, they're only little cars after all.

But all in all, a top meeting and top track (thanks to Tom, Dan and Chris too).

[Richard Lowe]

Rich, your just an animal. They are just about every-proof, bar Rich-proof. :D
I think Novak should send me all their motors to test :D

[MattW]

So then Rich, you'll need to move on to the GM/Speed Passion/Orion motor to try and break now then!!!

[Danny McGee]

Hi folks

Can someone let me know the the final positions for both the A finals at the weekend and the cars that they were running if possible please.

I know the top 3 for 2wd and the winner for 4wd but other than that i dont know.

Would be much appreciated

Danny

[James]

2wd
I was Q5, fin 10th with 3 and a half wheels :eh?:

think Ellis had a mare in 9th?

rob fox 8th?

sure others will be on here before long so you could piece it together but tim/muzzy will be posting results on the worksop forum if you can wait..

[Robfo]

I agree with everyone on here, the track was awesome. I had problems with the main jump and ended up just hopping onto the shortest flat bit. I really liked the set of jumps in the middle.

Danny, i Q'd 6th finished 6th with the Losi, Fabien Simonini was 2nd in 4wd with a 501x.

3 and a half wheels? You dont have much luck in finals do you James :wtf:

[Northy]

Track was great, I had a great day - it brought back the great memories from days gone by :D

I qualified 6th and finished 6th in 4wd (after my rail slide along the rostrum - which I think Stan helped me to do :p) with the X11 :rolleyes:

Damian qualified 7th, finished 5th with one of those old elastic band Losi XX4 thing-a-ma bobs :eh?:

Only improvement for me would be better run practise. I don't think there was a peg board, and the general shouting out of crystals was all a bit random :(

G

[Slimboyfat]

really enjoyed the track and the racing, Sorry to Rich Lowe who i think i took out in the final after being marshalled but well done to Doddy in 4wd and Danny in 2wd who was pretty invincible.

I Qualified 5th in 4wd with the XX4 and didn't finish though not sure who, if anyone dropped out before me.

Managed to break a side belt and front belt, a front shock tower and the back of the chassis........nice.

[Kopite]

I qualified 6th and finished 6th in 4wd (after my rail slide along the rostrum - which I think Stan helped me to do :p) with the X11 :rolleyes:




Did i nail u in the final? Sorry if i did

Academy comin thru......:cool:

[Northy]

When we went up the upslope side by side I knew it would all end in tears :D:D

I ended up doing a rail slide along the front of the rostrum and then re-joined a little after you. No problem at all - a racing incident :p Just watch out next time :D:D:D Maybe your car 'flexed' into mine! :p:p:p

G

[antnee]

the way to get the best marshall is to be in the bottom heat so you get all the top 4wd guys :)

met, jim(jimarea51 i think), who used to own my losi xxx

only broke a rearshock tower in quali, but had a mare final, first corner, managed to pull a ballstud out the front bulkhead, then after 4mins clipped the track markings and broke the rear pivot block.... o well...

sweet track, hope for another one like that again

[Slimboyfat]

When we went up the upslope side by side I knew it would all end in tears :D

I ended up doing a rail slide along the front of the rostrum and then re-joined a little after you. No problem at all - a racing incident :p Just watch out next time :D:D:D Maybe your car 'flexed' into mine! :p:p:p

G

was it your car i hit just of the jump before the last corner Northy with about a minute to go?

Pred vs XX4 head on ...... er XX4 lost :(

[Chrislong]

was it your car i hit just of the jump before the last corner Northy with about a minute to go?

Pred vs XX4 head on ...... er XX4 lost :(

Wow, that was a well unfortunate accident. Northy was stuck on the pipe and not getting marshalled any time soon, so kinda driving up it, just as he hit the lip of the pipe join and car jumped about 6inches, you drove under him and his chassis snapped the tower....

[Slimboyfat]

yeah not good i made and error that put me into the pipe where the Pred was stuck......but i didn't like that shock tower anyway, lol.

I really can't believe how i haven't broken a XX4 in 4 years give or take and then have 4 problems in one meeting.

Utter poo but still thought it was a good meeting, track reminded me of the indoor finals at York a few years back.

[Stu]

Only improvement for me would be better run practise. I don't think there was a peg board, and the general shouting out of crystals was all a bit random :(

G

Yeah, a peg board would be good.

I did hear one of the organisers (Tim/Muzzy?) shouting for drivers to get off the rostrum as it was overcrowded during practice, this was a problem in the 'old days' from what I remember. The answer then was to issue practice tickets at booking in, these allow one 5 min practice slot per entry and encourage drivers to get booked in & paid up ASAP, allowing the heats to be finalised quickly

The obvious downside to this suggestion is that someone has to be available to police the rostrum; the organisers looked to me to working very hard as it was.

[Northy]

Wow, that was a well unfortunate accident. Northy was stuck on the pipe and not getting marshalled any time soon, so kinda driving up it, just as he hit the lip of the pipe join and car jumped about 6inches, you drove under him and his chassis snapped the tower....

Yeh, OJ, that was me sorry. I was doing my second rail slide along the pipe as Chris has stated, with the power on trying to get off it, and I think you were coming the other way! :(

Can I get some extra points for my tricks? :confused::eh?::p

G

[Slimboyfat]

You should ask for an extra place for 'Style'......forget overtaking its how good you look when you crash that matters, lol

[Andrew Twigger]

It was an excellent track and excellent meeting, I really look forward to Worksop now more than any other indoor venue.

My (and some others) only bug bear on the day was that some of the marshalling was dreadfull. In round 3 after waiting for 5 secs for a marshall I actually had to get off the rostrum to marshall my own car and there was a guy who seemed scared to go on track to marshall. In our own little huddle we put this down to ex touring car racers, is this fair? ;)

Hi Dan,

I don't know whether your post was aimed at my marshalling in any way, but I will apologise now for not hearing your call when you pulled up near me - I thought you had broken your car.

And for the record, I am a touring car driver but make every effort to reach the car before it has finished its 17th barrel roll and try to ensure a swift turn over so to speak. I don't think I could say the same about a few people that I saw - both buggy and TC people alike.

I do agree some of the marshalling was bad though, there were often points unmanned which meant that cars would go unnoticed for a few seconds. Personally, I would like to see marshalls be made to stay on their points until relieved like usual and actual points to be clearly marked with race numbers.

If somone wants to re-educate me on the intricacies of jumping a 4WD over that mahoosive launch pad at the next event, then I would be very grateful!

[super__dan]

Andrew,

Were you in the middle of the track, by the 3 jumps? In which case no it wasn't aimed at you at all. My run was burned and I had just pulled offline to get some clear track so I could go for that all important fastest lap time (bragging rights).

My touring car ref was more for banter than anything. I think everyone agrees that numbered marshal points though are good.

[Andrew Twigger]

That was me by the triple yes.

I've seriously been to Nationals this year in TC's and not marshalled a single car all day. Then I pick the triple to marshal by on Sunday and that was a seasons worth of marshalling in one meeting!! :p

[telboy]

well it'll keep you fit mr twigger.:D

G, ever thought of taking up skate boarding? with all those grinds.:p


I'll speak to muzzy, and see about practice. maybe start practice at say 8:00 and have someone stood timing 5 min slots with no more than 10 drivers on the rostrum?
And, like said, a peg board.

[Cockerill]

I wouldn't mind timing most of practice at the next meeting. It will help people, cos with Lipo, brushless and 2.4 people can be up there for 10/15 mins.

[Chrislong]

I wouldn't mind timing most of practice at the next meeting. It will help people, cos with Lipo, brushless and 2.4 people can be up there for 10/15 mins.

If there are a few helping, taking over, then it'll be a doddle, so I'll help you with that too Tom if Muzzy accepts the idea...

[Danny McGee]

Does anybody have any pics of my car from the weekend that i would be allowed to use for a report that im sending back to Horizon Hobby. Obviously i would give who ever took them all the credit. Its just the report looks a bit daft without a pic or two.

Many Thanks

Danny

[mark christopher]

ill find on for u may be later tonight,

[muzzy]

Hi everyone, many thanks for all your kind comments about the racing sunday, much appreciated, now regarding marshalling we have already sorted numbers to put on seats for marshall positions and the marshalls wont be able to leave their point until they are relieved or instructed to by race control, so that should make life easier.
Also regarding timing practice if Tom and Chris or anyone else are prepared to help out with that then I'm more than happy for that to happen, did look up at 1 point as some of you may remember and saw a few more than 10 practicing so had to make the announcement for only 10 on the rostrum :o Do you think we should give everybody a practice ticket so you only get the 1 practice if you hand in your ticket?
As most of you probably saw on sunday we are a little short on numbers to help with the running of practice etc while we are trying to do the booking in and sorting heats, so if people are willing to lend a hand then please shout up as all help is very much appreciated.
Thanks to everyone that entered, numbers were good and some top drivers attending once again which is really good, looks like we are starting to make steady steps forward with the club, especially as you heard on sunday when I made the announcement of us holding the Indoor Regional Finals next year, so many thanks for all your support guys, lets keep improving things where we can, and if you see somewhere that we can improve please speak up so we can try and do something about it, as we are there for you guys to have a competitive but enjoyable days racing so that you have a good time and talk about it on the way home :D
Also must say a MASSIVE thanks to Danny, Chris, Tom, James and Terry for helping with the set up sat night and designing an AWESOME track, lets hope next track is even better ;)
Mark

[telboy]

Thanks mark, I don't think we need tickets, just as long as we've got someone stood there counting 10 people on the rostrum for 5min intervals...or less. Do you need 5 min to practice?

But i think we need to get leon or someone to knock a peg board together for those that haven't caught onto spektrum yet. lol

[Chrislong]

In all honesty, I don't think it is worth doing a ticketed practice.

Some people need to go up for 2 minutes, step down to straighten the servo/set the speedcontrol/adjust car setup, then que up again. Practice is a good time to do this. but then there is no harm in people having several of them if they want..... although on the other hand, if some people are struggling to practice - it may be an idea to give tickets and then priority is given to those with tickets, those without to make up the numbers on the rostrum? I dunno... im confused now :S

So long as we can take crystals off people, and limit it to 10 (or perhaps 12 if the rostrom holds it?) and time it to 3 or 4 minutes, then it'll work fine.

We don't even need a peg board, just plenty of paper and a pen, as we can write the crystals down for the next practice while a session is running - easy - call time and then quick change.

Chris

[Slimboyfat]

you and the club and helpers did a great job Muzzy.

Definatly echo the comments about getting practice more organised. In a 2wd you could go pretty much 10mins poss more if you wanted too. It used to done with raffle tickets a few years back in the off road series there and seemed to work although there may be a big backlog of drivers wanting to practice but as chris and terry say if someone can be there to time it then it would be fine. I think you also only got one practice with your ticket anyway!

I would defo be up for the next one if i can make it and im sure with the indoor finals announced there it will continue to get better!

[jimmy]

I didn't really go with the intention of getting any photos, and to be honest I don't like taking photos in such dark conditions. But a couple of people asked so I put some photos up - not many and nothing special! forgive me! :)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/worksop281007/index.html (http://www.oople.com/forums/../rc/photos/worksop281007/index.html)

[muzzy]

Thanks for posting those pics Jimmy, I like the one showing the whole track layout just shows how awesome the track was from that view :D
Cheers
Mark

[telboy]

ooh, one more thing muzzy (or who ever needs to know)
We need more space where the loop goes to the other side of track. Cos if you came out wide off the angled tabletop you could trigger the loop and get a mega fast lap. at one point I had a faster lap time than Mr stafford :o.

just thought I'd put it on here if I forgot to say later on.

I'm up for some more track building next month if thats ok?

[bondy]

Cool Meeting ! Agree with all the other points made !

Just one more . I would like to see us start were we used to in the old days near the side door. Basically a run down the straight and a lap. I know this will mean the first lap round will not count and your time only starts when you go past race control. but it will give people a chance to settle down and wont impede anyone when someone gets it wrong on the first corner. We also used to have two lines at the start . And your pit person basicall put your car on the first line if you are off in the first 5 and on the back for the last 5. I had a run wasted due to someone setting off last sat infront off me when i tried to start !!!!:mad:

Oh and the second thing :D A tape line on the rostrum about a foot back so we all get a better view.

[super__dan]

Good points on the rostrum and the twin strips, but doing nearly a lap before you're counted sounds weird to me. If you bin it on the first lap, surely that's tough?

[bondy]

Good points on the rostrum and the twin strips, but doing nearly a lap before you're counted sounds weird to me. If you bin it on the first lap, surely that's tough?


Why tough ?:confused: --- you havent started yet !!!! just means a few get past you then when you cross the line you start and everyone is already flowing.. Having done rallycross and trugs for the last 3 years were its a rolling start with 2 min warm up I found it hard to get on the pace straight away with the elecys. Plus im getting old now and my thumbs need to warm up a bit !!! :D

[Robfo]

Just do a warm up lap old man!

[Chrislong]

I can see the point in Steve's idea, but the issue I see is that because the 5 minutes start for each car as they pass the loop for lap 1, that it takes say 20 seconds per car to make that pass - and so the last lap after the 5 minutes beep, cars will be passing the loop for a further 20 seconds before they get the finished beep....

Therefore having to extend the race end time to cope, and therefore each race could potentially be as long as 6 minutes in reality - which would make for a longer day.

What could be done, is a start line, diagonal to the track perhaps 1/4 of a lap back from the loop. This would mean all 10 cars are in 1 line, and you get a few corners to get into a rythem before passing the loop to start?

Chris

[Chrislong]

Why tough ?:confused: --- you havent started yet !!!! just means a few get past you then when you cross the line you start and everyone is already flowing.. Having done rallycross and trugs for the last 3 years were its a rolling start with 2 min warm up I found it hard to get on the pace straight away with the elecys. Plus im getting old now and my thumbs need to warm up a bit !!! :D

I can see why, if the start line is a whole lap away from the loop then its a long time to start - the a mistake may make it 25-30 seconds til the start, which could make it so that car doesn't actually finish the race, it'll time out before it makes its last lap.

[MattW]

Just start where we used to - and have 2 loops - like we used to!!!

[Danny McGee]

leave it as is in my opinion. I dont like the idea of doing almost a lap before getting going for real. I always push really really hard on the first lap to build up as much of a lead as i can. So taking that away from me just wouldnt be fair :P

lol

danny

[bondy]

I can see why, if the start line is a whole lap away from the loop then its a long time to start - the a mistake may make it 25-30 seconds til the start, which could make it so that car doesn't actually finish the race, it'll time out before it makes its last lap.


I thought the software they run only starts your individual 5 min run when you pass over the loop for the first time not when you hear your number called.. Could be wrong not sure Muzzy/Tim ?? "Think its on your number called cos when I got stuck behind someone on the start line thats why i had a 30sec 1st lap !

Sure thats how we did it in the olden days cos the first lap is were i used to and still do crash all the time ! :o

Having the start a bit further round the track would be better than full lap !

[bondy]

leave it as is in my opinion. I dont like the idea of doing almost a lap before getting going for real. I always push really really hard on the first lap to build up as much of a lead as i can. So taking that away from me just wouldnt be fair :P

lol

danny

You need to send me your setup PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!!!!:D

[James]

having a first lap to cross the loop will cause all sorts of bizarre behaviour, as dan said if you're off first you want clear track infront of you, well if we have an extra lap (and if timing is set to begin when you hit the loop (can you clarify muzzy?) just wait for all to come round then set off in front of them and there you go .. clear track .. not exactly sporting though..

Can we confirm when your time starts - on the number or hitting the loop? Need to now this first really, Thanks J

[Danny McGee]

If you would like my setup send me a PM and i'd happily send you what i used at the weekend No probs. I dont have any secrets

You need to send me your setup PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!!!!:D

[Chrislong]

The 5 minute time for each car does start when the car crosses the loop, not on number called, this is why the 10th or last car off usually waits an aditional second to get a clear run.

The 5 minute of the run, before the buzzer goes, starts from the end of the countdown - but cars don't finish until they cross the loop and the time for that car is above 300 seconds at that point.

Chris

[James]

Personal opinion is to leave it as it is then but make sure no awkward corners on the start line.. agree?

[mark christopher]

agree smokin, i found the corner onto the straight hard to judge and kept hitting the pipi on inside of corner, but im old and got bad eyes so.....................................im shafted even on an oval

[antnee]

yeah i found that corner a bit dodgey too, get it wrong and you can see your car because of the jump :(

[Chrislong]

Personal opinion is to leave it as it is then but make sure no awkward corners on the start line.. agree?

Wise ;)

[telboy]

sounds like a good idea to me. Just have a short straight before the main straight.

We could start the cars somewhere under the rostrum or something like that.

But to be honest, I prefer the straight run to the loop to start with, cos if your gonna make a mistake on your first lap, then it gonna happen anyway. I would 've thought it would mess things up doing a full lap before the loop anyway. cos you'll start in order, but if you make a mistake on your first lap, then the order is going to be different before you get to the loop. So i would've thought it'd mess thing up on the comp.?

If you get my drift.:D

[mark christopher]

terry you rekon it sould mess somin up then mate:D

[Robbiejuk]

Why can't we have the loop on the straight? The loop runs across the track and to a connection box, this is then connected to a Co-ax cable AMB box at race control which is then connected to the laptop. Now cars going over the Co-ax isn't a problem as it's sheilded so they won't trigger a count, Only time that cars will count is when they either go near the loop or cross over the loop box.

So loop on the straight, double start line next to the fire door as it used to be. :) It would have to be like that for the indoor finals anyways to meet the BRCa regs.

[mark christopher]

Why can't we have the loop on the straight? The loop runs across the track and to a connection box, this is then connected to a Co-ax cable AMB box at race control which is then connected to the laptop. Now cars going over the Co-ax isn't a problem as it's sheilded so they won't trigger a count, Only time that cars will count is when they either go near the loop or cross over the loop box.

So loop on the straight, double start line next to the fire door as it used to be. :) It would have to be like that for the indoor finals anyways to meet the BRCa regs.
to be honnest i like this one

[Chrislong]

How about, the straight on the oposite side to the doors, and the loop at the end, double start line mid way up the straight - race control where it usually is, and rostrum on the side of the hall with the doors....

The thing is with having the loop at a distance from race control, is it will weaken the signal, and it depends on the length of coaxal they have - no.1 priority for me, is to have the loop where we know it'll count most reliably.

Chris

[super__dan]

Why not just leave it as it was???

[Chrislong]

Now then Dan, I like that idea the most...

[Northy]

Was fine as it was.

Here's one for you guys: If we start where we did, and the bit of track between there and the straight is NOT a straight, try going slower if your crashing on it, thats what you have to do every other lap you come round isn't it? :confused:

Don't dumb the track down just to make the start easier :eh?:

G

[telboy]

weren't we messing around with the idea of having the rostrum at the other side chris? i'm sure we were. it could be worth trying.

we can have a mess around when we're there anyway, it'll be easier to work out when you've got everything in fornt of you.

;)

[Robfo]

Why does the rostrum need moving?
The only minor problem with the track was that the corner going on to the straight was diffficult to see if you stood to the far right of the rostrum, thats easy to fix.
The loop was fine where it was and so was the starting grid. All we need to do is inform people that they must put there cars on the correct row at the start.
No need to mess with things that work!

[James]

no chance, it'd do my head in:eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?:
keep all as was, we'll just make sure small section before the straights err straightforward...

[Northy]

It was 'straightforward' :D

How about a little dog-leg off near where we started to grid the cars up?

G

[James]

Personally I didnt have a prob to begin with, was quite happy with it ;)

[Northy]

I didn't have a problem with the track at all, but start wise I'm trying to help you get ready for the indoor finals (as a muti-time indoor track builder) :D

G

[James]

(To Mark Christopher) ... Which edition of the mags will the race report be in?

[mark christopher]

duno is the easy answer

[James]

doh no worries, thanks mark

[jamie]

hi mark
can you book me in for this sundays race please on the 27th.
my car is two wheel drive and my name is jamie brown you already have my details from the last race.
let me know if this is ok this is my email jaysb@hotmail.co.uk .thanks