round 2 at Caldi

[millzy]

Thought id post this as a thread instead of a PM to Pet and crew, that way every one will know the score once some one from the club has replied and confirmed .

What time will doors be opening?

Are there mains power points available?

Will you be using the whole hall for the track?

where are we pitting?, If no to the question above are we able to pit next to the track

will there be the magic penny hotdogs and other good food?

What type of surface are we running on...mixed all carpet? flat ,jumps??

and my last question what type of rostrum are you using.

Its been a while so id like some clarification on the above.

[peetbee]

Blimey Chris, what a lot of questions!
Some of them are in the process of being answered so will update this thread as soon as I have them.

There is mains power, but bring an extension lead as you may not be able to pit right next to the socket!

There will be some pitting in the same hall as the track, other pitting available just outside in one of the other rooms.

Talking of pitting, please bring your own tables and chairs.

Track design not finalised yet but should be multi-surface. Tyres most commonly used at club are Schumacher yellow mini-pins & mini-spikes.

More details to follow

[DCM]

Will time stand still?

What way does the water swirl down the drain?

Will Pete be clean shaven (them whiskers are alive I tell you!!)

:thumbsup:

[millzy]

doors opening time is what i really wanted to know.

should be good fun no matter what

[blue_pinky]

We haven't thought about a precise timetable yet, and will confirm after Friday night when we'll put the final plan in place!

As a guess, I'd imagine it will be about 9am start...though we will confirm this nearer the time. Format is 1 practice round, 4 qualifiers and 1 final, as per WRCA 2011 rules.

Our usual multi-surface (mixture of carpet, polish and wood), multi-level offroad track will already be laid by then, and if the hangover from my work xmas do doesn't get the better of me the day before, we should have a new rostrum built for it too. Much the same as the current wooden blocks one, but a little higher and longer to better suit the micro national venue spec that we're prepping for in January.

We've had to give the hot food a miss this year I'm affraid, mainly due to lack of someone to cook and serve it, but we will have the usual range of snacks and drinks available.

And since it's practically christmas...and our Christamas bash...there will be some Christmas cheer, prizes and stuff to celebrate that on the day!

If your not already...get booked in people...it all helps us get racing quicker on the day! :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

Will Pete be clean shaven (them whiskers are alive I tell you!!)

Nope, I won't be. It's winter now, the beard helps me stay warm!

[Jonesy]

Andy 'J-Dog' Jones is thinking of rocking up to this one! Get some Micro National Practise, it's the way I role!

I'll get the details emailed later!

[peetbee]

Update:
Doors will open at 8am with Practice starting at 9am. Can't tell you what time we will aim to be finished by as that will depend on entries.

Talking of which, anyone entering after 16th December will be added to one of the lower heats.
As happened at Swansea, subject to numbers, we will be running a 'junior' heat (for those who have recently started out). Let me know if you want to run in that when entering.

Entry fees
Senior - £7 first class £3 for second class entered
Junior (Under 16's) - £3 per class

[peetbee]

Over 30 entries so far, please keep them coming as I need to sort the heats out by Friday. :thumbsup:

[DCM]

is that 30 individuals, or where people have done two classes or more, either way... excellent, can't wait!

[c0sie]

Pete, is there any chance you could PM/email me the names of the micro entries?

[axeman]

Entry fees
Senior - £7 first class £3 for second class entered
Junior (Under 16's) - £3 per class

juniors up to the age of 14 race for free in any wrca round as long as they have full paying parent with them.
If not 1/2 price, and between the age of 14-16, or in full time education pay 1/2 price.

this did get voted in at the WRCA AGM

[c0sie]

So anyone in full time education pays half right Axe?

My life just got 50% cheaper :)

[peetbee]

Well I have to admit that I got the prices off the Cobra forum, as the WRCA haven't told anyone what they are, so I didn't know the detail about the under 14's, under 16s, etc.

Only a handful of entries are doing 2 classes Steve.

But come on everyone get your entries in!

[Jamie.T]

Just need to find my P.T number and I'll e-mail my entry tomorrow Pete.

I'll be running just micro 4wd.

[Roy]

We will have to get clarification from "H" but as Steve has said there was a vote on 14year olds, but it had already been voted 15 to 9 that the junior age was under 16 so in normal circumstances that should stand.

If the 14 year limit was prefered it should have been voted as an amendment first.

The plot thickens :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[c0sie]

Are there any minutes from your meetings?

I had a look on the WRCA site but most of it seems to be from 2008? lol

I wanna know what your rules state about people in full time education (other than that we are lazy tax dodgers!)

[Dyna]

What are the entries per class atm Pete, as an interest ?

[DCM]

Well I have to admit that I got the prices off the Cobra forum, as the WRCA haven't told anyone what they are, so I didn't know the detail about the under 14's, under 16s, etc.

Only a handful of entries are doing 2 classes Steve.

But come on everyone get your entries in!

I know nooooothing.... (sits back, arms crossed and feet up!)

[axeman]

best we get the minutes off H.....

Ahh the joys of the WRCA:lol:

[peetbee]

What are the entries per class atm Pete, as an interest ?

Current Entries are
10th 2wd = 11
10th 4wd = 8
16th 2wd = 4
16th 4wd = 8
Truck = 1 (better be a few more for this to run!)

Lets all refrain from further comment regarding entry fees until we hear from H. Thanks.

[millzy]

Well thats me bq in 2wd then :):)

[peetbee]

Well thats me bq in 2wd then :):)
I think I'll be fighting you for that honour!

[c0sie]

There are a few things in life that confuse me...and one of them is why Caldicot RC Club, as one of the best indoor venues for tracks in the country for its size (UK, let alone in the Wales/South West region) isnt better supported at events like these!

:confused:

[millzy]

I think I'll be fighting you for that honour!

Its your track!!!

bq is all mine

[peetbee]

We'll have to see about that!

[millzy]

no professional DNFs now to make sure its yours.

[Dyna]

There are a few things in life that confuse me...and one of them is why Caldicot RC Club, as one of the best indoor venues for tracks in the country for its size (UK, let alone in the Wales/South West region) isnt better supported at events like these!

:confused:


I think its a combination of a lot of things tbh Cris - the main one is that most people seem to think its miles away from anywhere in deepest darkest Wales and hard to get to, but in reality its just off the M4 over the Severn bridge... :confused:

Plus of course youll get conflict of other indoor series like The Ardent series, which are pretty much on exactly the same dates as ours. I think once the WRCA is back to its best we'll see a lot more people come our way :)

And I wouldnt worry too much about the regional, i have a sneaky feeling there will be a lot more entries by the weekend :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

Hope so Matt, can I put you down for 2wd & 4wd then? :lol:

Who know's Cris, one of life's mysteries, but I've had another 6 entries so far today. :thumbsup:

It's almost impossible to schedule meetings that don't clash with other events, no matter what you do. Even if you don't clash you're still in the position of people not being able to commit to racing every weekend.

[blue_pinky]

And it's amazing who turns up from nowhere on the day as well...don't worry about the entry levels Cris...numbers are looking plenty good enough to be honest!

We probably couldn't cope if 100 people turned up anyway :blush:

[Dyna]

Hopefully i can do the event, as long as work dosent get in the way.... and if i do ill probably do both 2 & 4wd.

Ill let you know by Thursday night, as ive a meeting on Thursday which will decide whether i'm working or not over the weekend :rolleyes:

[peetbee]

Sounds like fun Matt. :bored:
And as Andy says, we're not after 100s of entries!

[DCM]

only a few years back, we were down to 20 or so racers, things are getting better in Sunny South Wales!

[millzy]

Ture, I remeber going to swansea and there was only 4 of in 4wd, Me ,spooner ,slik, and one of the DC racing drivers.

but......there was loads of touring car drivers

[peetbee]

Well over 40 entries now :thumbsup:

Please note for parking:
We do not have enough room to park all the cars outside the hall, so there will be an overflow carpark in operation.
You will be able to use the the club carpark as a drop-off area but then will have to park in the RAF base!

Directions:
1/ Turn into Dinham Road from the A48 and take the 2nd right into Lawrence Crescent
2/ You will see a gravel carpark on the right hand side. Park here to get your gear into the venue.
3/ Go back out Lawrence Crescent, turn right and go through the big Army gates.
4/ Park in the car park on the left hand side.
5/ Walk back to the venue (it's not as far as it looks!)

Hopefully you can see what I mean from the attached map:

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3632/indexjy.png

Sorry about this but the Caldicot venue is slap bang in the middle of a residential estate so we have to keep the streets clear for the resident's parking and access. Please please keep the volume down and drive sensibly too!!

Many thanks

[millzy]

H has to walk....gr8 pit man in a bad mood befor the meeting starts lol

[c0sie]

Need a shuttle bus for the chubbier racers amoungst us lol

[millzy]

What Class you runnig Mr Ox? are you doing the wee williy winker racing

[c0sie]

16th 4WD and 10th 2WD :)

[millzy]

Wicked , Bill.i.am comnig with you?

who else is runnig 2wd then..hands up

I know you me and Pete are - who are the other 8+

[DCM]

I am running 2+4wd, I won't say I am racing though.....

[c0sie]

Bill-i-ams missus wouldnt allow such weekend activities so he aint going to be gracing us with his presence :)

Would presume 2WD would include Stants, Harris, Bavid, Owen, Andy and Pete N??

[millzy]

I am running 2+4wd, I won't say I am racing though.....

now now I said runnig not racing, so we are in the same boat :)




Bill-i-ams missus wouldnt allow such weekend activities so he aint going to be gracing us with his presence :)

Would presume 2WD would include Stants, Harris, Bavid, Owen, Andy and Pete N??

No Griff?
Stants as in Gaz stanton??

[peetbee]

No Griff, Stants or Belsten.
Andy & Owen are 4wd, but yes to me & Pete N in 2wd.
And if I don't pull my finger out I'll be running my RC10 as my B4 is sans electrics!

[Body Paint]

+1 :-)

[markwilliamson2001]

See you Sunday Craig ;-)

[peetbee]

+1 :-)

Oh go on give me a bit of a clue as to what classes I'm booking you in for!:bored:

[peetbee]

Over 50 entries now :thumbsup:

And a moan from me. About 20 of the entries don't know what their PT number is. It all adds to the time it takes to sort out the heats before we can start :(

[Dyna]

Well i'm now in on both 2 & 4wd - looking forward to it :)

[peetbee]

Current split of entries is:
10th 2wd = 15
10th 4wd = 21
16th 2wd = 4
16th 4wd = 12
Truck = 2
:thumbsup:

[Jamie.T]

Will you be running 10 car heats and finals Pete?

[Belsten]

add at least 1 more to the list :thumbsup:

[Dyna]

add at least 1 more to the list :thumbsup:

You coming now Dave ? I thought you were racing away this weekend ? Nice if you are - i want to see that 502x of yours in action... :thumbsup:

[Belsten]

I was due to be but the 6 hour round trip and forecast of max temp for the day of 0 has kind of persuaded me :woot:

[Jamie.T]

I'll be running my 502x as well Matt, so youll be spoilt. Lol

[blue_pinky]

Well...this turn out looks great! Couple of busy looking heats too...should be ace :thumbsup:

10 car finals has been talked about, but we need to make a final call on it. 10 x 10th cars on track at Caldi is a little cosy...and could be a little messy for finals...but...it is obviously preffered to stick to the norm and to run 10 car finals, so we might take that chance yet! We'll let you know for sure on the once we've made our minds up.

[peetbee]

Added you on Dave (I'm guessing you want to run 4wd then!)
I've just finished some new speaker wiring and am off to create the meeting on the laptop now. :bored:

[millzy]

errrr im a little bit snowed in at the mo...lets hope it melts befor sunday

[peetbee]

Weather report from near the track......

This morning there was snow.

Snow looks like someone ran around with a bag of icing sugar sprinkling a very light coating everywhere.

Snow on roads melted at the sight of cars.

We all lived happily ever after and went car racing!

I am driving around in my land rover today so that the global warming spewing from it will melt all the snow for you all.

[Jamie.T]

Nice one Pete, im sure David cameron would be proud of you. LOL

[big dave]

Well, got the cars ready last night, and it looks like i wont be going anywhere this weekend. just checked the weather and heavy snow for sunday. will see what its like, but we were only suppose to have a small bit of snow last night, and its 4 inches thick.

was looking forward to this round, been 2 a caldi crimbo bash before and had a good time, lap dancers were the best.

[peetbee]

Nice one Pete, im sure David cameron would be proud of you. LOL

I do hope so. It's no good just thinking of yourself you know, that's what the big society is all about, helping each other.

Sounds bad Dave, lets keep our fingers crossed and I'll have the heater turned up full blast for everyone!

[blue_pinky]

was looking forward to this round, been 2 a caldi crimbo bash before and had a good time, lap dancers were the best.

You did book the lap dancers didn't you Pete?

[peetbee]

Did I forget to say that we need to fit some scaffold poles in the venue to enable their act to work properly?!;)

[peetbee]

And on a serious note, we've sorted out someone to do Teas, Coffees & Pot Noodles.

There will also be crisps, chocolates and soft drinks available, possibly hotdogs at lunchtime too!

[Jamie.T]

Whats the latest weather from Caldicot? Ive seen on traffic Wales that all the major roads are clear, but what are the other roads like from the M4 to Caldi?

[markwilliamson2001]

Iwas going to ask the same thing, but coming from the north of caldi.
We had some decent snow last night, and know that the Bristol, and Newport area has had some snow the last day or so...

Any news would be great...:thumbsup:

[DCM]

I don't think I will be able to get there, where I am the council hasn't gritted the main roads and my road has about 8 inches of snow on it and currently impassable to anything other than 4x4's grrr

[JACKOR33]

Use a spade steve its a wonderful invention....

[DCM]

Dug as far as the road, I even found me car in the snow!! lol

[blue_pinky]

I'm heading over in a bit, the main road that goes past the entrance to the estate is usually kept pretty clear, will only be the road within the estate that should cause any concern...will report back when I see it! :thumbsup:

[markwilliamson2001]

Cheers Andy!

[Robwest]

im stuck right in more snow overnight means that im now 2foot deep gona try to dig out the car but. more snow on the way dosent look good. pete get your landy out to all so we can race :thumbsup:.

[axeman]

seen a pic of the hall from 6am this morning...mmmmm

main roads are clear in caldicot / chepstow

estates aint good my friends.

I think if we can't hold the WRCA event due to people not being able to make it.:thumbdown:

The christmass bash must still happen for those who can!!!!:thumbsup:

[big dave]

Well it looks like a few of us from swansea and maybe pembroke will be making the trip. at the moment its snow around, but the sun's melting it fast and checked the weather for swansea and newport and its showing clear for the rest of the day and tomorrow. so we going to make a trip up providing the meeting is still on.

[DCM]

This is what I woke to this morning, and the council are nowhere to be seen on the main raods!!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j271/DCM71/Dec%202010%20snow/IMG_1346.jpg

[Jamie.T]

Whats the latest on the smaller rounds getting into Caldicot, dont want to travel 99% of the way there only to find the roads in the estate are not passable?

Axeman, any chance you can share your pic of the roads?

[Dyna]

Yup im in the same boat up here in Brecon - heavy snow even this morning when i was walking the dog, but it has been clear the last few hours. Again the roads are still bad, but the estates not having been touched at all by gritters and snowploughs and its a good 7-8 inches deep. Only things getting in and out around my way are 4wds.... A470 to Cardif was shut this morning and the A40 Brecon to Abergavenny was very,very dodgy according to a friend of mine.

I'd appreciate any road/travel info tonight from people around the Abergavenny to Newport area as thats the way i'd be coming.

But if it freezes overnight im not going to risk it....

[DCM]

I just watched a car rock back and forth for 10 mins at the bottom of my street before being pushed back to the kerb..... I am gonna commit to saying that I WON'T be making the event now.... there is no way the snow is going to be cleared off the roads today, let alone be safe to get to the main roads at stupid o'clock tomorrow.

[welsh wizad]

i would like to make it but if snow does not melt i cant its got to be 10 inches it is up to the top of the wheel so i cant see it unless i can borrow a helicopter haha

[Robwest]

18 inches .no joke
ive made it in to town to get fuel so i will make it to caldi:thumbsup:
made way for the car so looking good .
as many of you have pointed out. if the estate into the club is not clear there is no point in going so keep us updated.
chears.

[chris-on-wheels]

too risky for me :thumbdown:

[axeman]

just got back from caldicot club. A48 is clear and road to the hall is a little slippy but no problem....

Happy days

[FARLEY]

Is Parking still in the airbase for tomorrow .

[axeman]

as far as I'm aware yes

[peetbee]

Lets see how much parking we need first!
But yes the base is available to us should we need it.

If you are definitely not coming please let me know and I'll get the heat list updated!!
Good luck everyone and see you tomorrow.

[Dyna]

Sorry Pete, ill say now that i wont be coming tomorrow... its now -5 and the roads are still just too bad for me to risk it that early in the morning :(

But have a good day to all of you who do go, make it a good one :)

[chris-on-wheels]

I'll be back in january

have a good day all

[Jamie.T]

Will the little roads into the Caldicot estate be ok in the morning, or is the frost gonna make it a no-go zone?

Dont want to travel 1.5 hours to get stuck at the last few yards. Maybe you should have your spades at the ready to help dig us in. LOL

[markwilliamson2001]

Well i just tested the water a few minutes ago...
The road from Ledbury to Ross was clear as anything.
I just dont know which route to take tommorow?
Any suggestions as to which might be easier/less trouble. I usually come south from monmouth alongside the river, but it is very hilly and windy coming into chepstow..

Is the A40 and A449 towards newport then back east on the A48 worth a shot? I have never come that way.

Of course there is always the motorway! LOL

[Belsten]

I dont imagine the estate roads will be impassable at all

I would go for the 40 & 449 route mark, probably quicker too

[markwilliamson2001]

Cheers Dave...isnt there a mcdonalds on the junction where the A449, a48 and m4 meet?

[Belsten]

sure is, left at that roundabout, all the way around the next one and back on yourself if you want to get in there

[blue_pinky]

Well I know this might be a little late...arrived at the hall at about 2pm, got into the estate and car park no probs. Bit slippy if your stupid, but fine if your careful.

Left at about 10pm, drive straight out, again slippy, but fine! There will be plenty if people around to help if you need a shove any way :thumbsup:

Hopefully see you tomorrow if it's all ok at your end too!!!

[chris.c]

Sorry for the late notice but I aint gonna make it...the car was all packed up ready to go but where I live Crynant and Seven Sisters is totally inpassible because of overnight ice, none of the roads have been gritted/cleared so I cant get to the m-way. :(

[welsh wizad]

cant make it stuck it should have been re shedueled as a lot of people r snowed in http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif

[millzy]

im still snowed in at llanelli- sorry its a later notice but cant maek it sorry

[hywel]

i cant make it either took 3 hours yesterday to dig drive way out to road no gritting around by us so far have fun guys
:(:(

[markwilliamson2001]

Excellent meeting today fellas! Enjoyed the track, once I got into the groove. Grip seemed to come up nicely in last two qualifiers, which was nice.

Might see some of you at Hereford in Jan for the 10th Off-Road Meeting....who knows.

[markwilliamson2001]

My B44 Setup from today for anyone that wants it..

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=443719#post443719

Cheers
Mark

[Dyna]

So...... who won what then ? :)

Top 3 from each class - any suprises ?

[c0sie]

10th 2WD - Harris, TomG, me
10th 4WD - Bobby West, Belsten, ???
16th 4WD - no idea :(
16th 2WD - no idea :(

lol

[markwilliamson2001]

I was 3rd in 10th 4wd..:D

[Dyna]

So there was only three drivers entered in 2wd was there Cris... ?? :p

I thought you would be up there somewhere Mark, good result that as Dave & Rob are locals...

[c0sie]

I just went to make the numbers up :D

[c0sie]

Shame there were no trophies though. You Welsh lot have some weird rules and procedures....not that you can actually find any rules or procedures anywhere on the interwebs?!

[Jonesy]

1/16th 4wd
Bish
Me
Dan O

[Jamie.T]

Full results and times will be available to view online tomorrow. I would have done it tonight, but after a 5.30am start and 2 hour trip each way, I could barely move off the couch. LOL.

Top day tho, thanks to everyone at Caldicott for a great track, warm venue, tea and coffee and Pete belsten for running race control.

[peetbee]

Thanks Everyone, it was great to see you all there and a fantastic turnout (only 6 people couldn't make it in the end). With over 50 runners it was a busy day!

I hope everyone enjoyed themselves and yes trophies would have been nice, but a bit too costly for us this time. We're always looking for ways to improve things tho!

See you all at Cobra next month :)

(BTW Jamie, who's Pete Broaden?!)

[ant west 71]

well gutted, couldn't make it as i was snowed in with around 12 inches of snow in my street and living on the side of a mountain does not help. to be honest i think it should have been cancelled and run on another date for safety reasons, as its a welsh regional and wales being battered with snow. oh well no indoor championship for me as i couldnt make swansea, snowed in for caldicot and now pointless doing cobra as 2 rounds is needed.

[DCM]

Not pointless Ant, be a good day!! Woot Woot!

[Jamie.T]

(BTW Jamie, who's Pete Broaden?!)

I was typing on my iPhone and the auto speller was on.lol

My thanks was, and is again to you Pete for running race control, and the guys who braved the weather to build a fantastic track on the Saturday.

Looking forward to COBRA now, just hope they can find some jumps :p

[JACKOR33]

Great event guys with an interesting track and also the day was run super smooth at race control!
Don't worry Jamie Cobra will have plenty of bumpy things to go over for our WRCA round :D

[Jamie.T]

Results are now up from yesterdays Caldicot round.

They can be found at the bottom of the page under WRCA Results. Click here http://www.swansearc.co.uk/results.html

[ant west 71]

like i said steve, pointless. it would be just like a club day as ive no rounds in the pocket. no indoor championship points for me. oh well, as they say, shit happens. lol

[DCM]

It is a days racing, I have long stopped racing cause of championships, makes it far more enjoyable!!

[Jamie.T]

like i said steve, pointless. it would be just like a club day as ive no rounds in the pocket. no indoor championship points for me. oh well, as they say, shit happens. lol

Pretty big club day tho. Its definitely still worth doing as its more racing experience under your belt.

I still cant believe we had people attend yesterday from all over the country despite a bit of white stuff. Dave came from Tenby area, and Andy Jones came from Ellesmere port Nr Manchester.

I know the weather is frustrating and it meant some couldn't attend, but the meeting wasn't going to be canceled just because 6 people in total couldn't make it. That just wouldn't be fair on the people who did make an effort to get there.

[DCM]

I thought about that it should be cancelled, but then most could get there, it would be unfair to them.

Attendance would of been higher for some 'pre-micro national' practice!! :lol:

[c0sie]

The more people that attend for the fun of it, the better.

[DCM]

Most definitely Chris. When it is serious racing, people get all touchy :(

[peetbee]

Attendance would of been higher for some 'pre-micro national' practice!! :lol:
True, both the nationals drivers seemed to enjoy their day!

[peetbee]

I was typing on my iPhone and the auto speller was on.lol
Thanks Jamie, I've seen spellcheckers come up with worse!
I was just glad my car ran faultlessly all day

I would like to add my thanks to Andy and everyone who did such a fantastic job on Saturday so that the Sunday ran so well.

[markwilliamson2001]

Thanks Peter and Andy, and trackbuilders for a great day, you even made sure the weather held off for me!!! :lol::lol:

[c0sie]

True, both the nationals drivers seemed to enjoy their day!

Both? I can think of at least 9 :D

[Jonesy]

I loved it yesterday it's fair to say and I would have hated it to have been called off!! Less of the Manchester as well Jamie, nr. Chester, it sounds more classy!! Although I am only 35 miles West of Manchester, I'm closer to Wrexham.

I think Pete may have been refering to me and Bish as random non-locals that made the journey for National Practise.

It did all seem to be getting a little bit to friendly for my liking at times, then again I was pitting with Belsten so what do you expect!

[Jamie.T]

Less of the Manchester as well Jamie, nr. Chester, it sounds more classy!! Although I am only 35 miles West of Manchester, I'm closer to Wrexham.

My apologies Andy, and your right, Chester does have a nicer ring to it. And its closer to the Hollyoaks babes LOL

Cant wait for the National round in January now, im sure the track will be even better (if thats possible).

[peetbee]

Both? I can think of at least 9 :D
I wasn't counting the ones who turn up on a normal club night!!

[peetbee]

I think Pete may have been refering to me and Bish as random non-locals that made the journey for National Practise.:thumbsup:

It did all seem to be getting a little bit to friendly for my liking at times, then again I was pitting with Belsten so what do you expect!
Well, if that's the worst criticism we get, then I'm happy!
(You can't blame me for my brother tho!)