THEwait - is over

[jimmy]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/jqreleased.png


JQproducst much anticipated 'theCAR' 1/8th buggy is finally released around the world this week. JQ have just released some build tips and information on their website to ensure racers get the best experience from theBUILD.

Check out the JQ website by following theLINK: http://jq-products.com/the-news

[c0sie]

*like*

[stegger]

GREAT video at the bottom of the page, love that when you see the suspension loading up like that, ace camera angles :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[RogerM]

damn this company for being stuck in the IE6 dark ages, page won't load ... Just being nosey really though.

[paulc]

Never heard of JQProducts but the video is good though

[andys]

4 year in the making !

It does look a bit old skool though, never heard of JQ, is it supposed to be any good ?

[jimmy]

You'll see how good it is when I kick your ass with it at MMRX sometime Andy :thumbsup:


p.s. - When you've built up your 408, can I nick it to take some photos? :)

[andys]

Hi Jimmy.

No worries, i'll pop round with it after Chrimbles, then you can take a piccy before it gets muddy - might even get your pred back to you :0

That JQ buggy does look a bit retro though, interesting, but is it too little too late considering the new cars that are out now ?

[showtime]

yeah i guess being the first (& only at the moment) car on the market where you can adjust the position of the engine backwards & forwards must be too little too late :eh?:

think of it more as a refinement on what we already know works rather than something like the Team Tragic that tried too hard & failed miserably ;)

at fisrt glance things on this car do appear to look similar to other cars but if you get into the detail of them they are quite different :)

[birdy]

Got mine on Thursday, the build was really good, the car is a very good design.

[Holeshot]

4 year in the making !

It does look a bit old skool though, never heard of JQ, is it supposed to be any good ?

Same with the O'Donnell Buggy, took so many years to come out. Parts on the kit are probably outdated now as buggies have changed over the last 4 years :lol:

[c0sie]

You guys need to read the JQ press release parts (theres loads of em).

I dont do RX anymore, but I doff my cap to JQ for all the effort and theory he has put into what he is doing.

People like him are very brave taking on such projects and respect is due.

[showtime]

Same with the O'Donnell Buggy, took so many years to come out. Parts on the kit are probably outdated now as buggies have changed over the last 4 years :lol:

kinda missing the point a bit :eh?:

4 years ago he designed his first buggy, spent nearly 3 years working with third party companies to try & get it produced which never happened.obviously the design was evolving/being updated during this time & has continued to be updated right up til now!

a year or so ago he took the brave decision of going "all in", drew up a business plan, went to the bank, got some funding, went on a mega worldwide testing/development program & arranged production & international distribution! the first consignments of THE car having reached the shops last week!

you can read all about it in THE story here http://jq-products.com/the-reports/the-story-intro

never before has a maker given you so much information on how & why things were done or certain decisions were made :)
have a good read & tell us if you still think its an out of date design :)

[GRIFF55]

The proto (i think it was anyhow) one i saw of these at slough this year looked an amazing bit of kit, and if the production cars are better then roll on!!!
Nice Job JQ!

might have to see what comes for my birthday:D

[showtime]

yeah it would have been one of the 3 pre production prototype/test cars that were there, plus the unused show car.

the first production kits used were built up just before the Worlds in Pattaya & had their shakedown runs on probably the most brutal track in recent years :)

[DaveG28]

might have to see what comes for my birthday:D

Bloody hell, as if Rheinard and Wagner weren't enough, he thinks he's Jesus now... To the rest of us it's Christmas, to him it's his birthday! :lol:

[andys]

http://jq-products.com/the-reports/the-story-intro[/URL]


Cheers for the info, i'll be sure to read the info as it sure looks interesting. I wasn't being negative about the car, just thought it looked a bit odd. Maybe that's good - odd...

Anyway, respect to the guy for getting it made, doesn't mean it will be any good, and the point I questioned, was if it took so long to get it into customers hands, would it be too late and outdated as there's some very nice current kit on the market right now.

[jamiekerr14]

The buggy has been in development.. for a long time granted-BUT.. its always been changed and improved. Its a fresh and new as it get tbh. Yes, it may not be the most futuristic buggy. But all of the ideas and features are really good, im sure there will be 1 or 2 spots that may need working on. But all new buggy have 1 or 2 issues. I got to see JQ and co run it at Proline at Slough.. and man that thing had some grip!.. Even Adam made it looks good :p

Read all the info-and it will make more sense... tbh.. for me the DNX408.. looks almost to technical for it's own good.. but the JQ is a very nice buggy. And I think the fact thats its the 3rd most popular buggy in the Neo 2011 Entry list.. and it wasn't even out when entries opened... That in itself tells you something.. as well as the most brough buggy on A Main...

That good enough? :D

[mof]

as well as the most brough buggy on A Main...

Which it has been for a couple of months already :drool:

[Lonestar]

A main is the US distro if I'm not mistaken.

I don't want to be negative about this car, but THEhype is getting on my nerves a bit... "all" JQ did is release a car that was thouroughly tested and that he dumped a lot of (his personal) cash in...

... which is pretty much the way all "solid" contenders in RC do it when they release a new car. R&D, testing, more R&D, more testing, R&D finalization, manufacturing, then distribution...

I don't say his car is better or worst than any other, but I just don't understand what makes it so different than the other "good" buggies on the market today, besides the (smart) guerilla marketing and the fact that the guy is taking a huge personal risk. He sure deserves credit for that, but I don't really see how it can make the car that much better than the other well thought-out designs on the market today...

Paul

[jamiekerr14]

I understand that.. but that can be said with loads of things.. the DEX410 over the B44.1 or something. Its, been developed by a RACER.. tested by Racers and
he's documented everything.. you don't see any other Company.. letting club driver's test a port car do you? No.. not very often if at all.. so that in its self gives racers even more confidence. Specially when all the feedback is good. I understand what your saying, but the same principal can be said about anything.. why do people buy new golf clubs for instance.. there will be very minimal performance increase.. but people still do.

either way Joseph deserve's everything he gets, as its a stunning buggy.. and so far.. has had some fantastic results and feedback... !

[Jan Larsen]

Good marketing sells. JQ's marketing campaign just confirmes this. New company, no history, no racing credentials and still it sells as hot bread. Other manufactures could learn from this.

[mof]

"THE Car" has sold more units in the last week than ANY other brand of race level kit we stock has sold in the last YEAR.

-Kendall Bennett, A Main Hobbies CEO

[Lonestar]

Good marketing sells. JQ's marketing campaign just confirmes this. New company, no history, no racing credentials and still it sells as hot bread. Other manufactures could learn from this.

Ha - thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one to perceive it this way.

I am NOT saying his car isn't as good as any other. I'm just saying that, so far, I don't see no reason why it'd be any better...

The 'Rango/B44.1 examples don't hold true, especially not the AE one... we're talking about a company who's done nothing but gaining world titles for the past 30 years...

It'd take a serious mechanical genius to suddenly, out of private funds with no top-notch car full-time tester/developper team, come out with a car that's soooo much better than the rest of the competition, when the competition includes such big names who's been doing nothing but developing racecars for the past 20yrs such as J. Hudy (XRay), K. Sanada (Mugen), C. Lett (AE), J. Johnson and G. Losi (Kyosho), J. Steenari (Losi) and so on so forth.

I do reckon J. Quagraine sure is a good pilot, probably a good engineer too, maybe a good businessman (time will tell) but CERTAINLY a fantastic marketeer. This is probably the highest ROI campaign in RC ever, as he's managed to make people believe that different go-to-market strategy can only mean his car is better ;)

I'll watch and see how the car performs both in future club races as well as national and international events...

Paul

[jamiekerr14]

Yeah I agree.. but Losi and AE.. always have 2-3 new projects on the go at 1 time.. where as the car is 1 thats it. Granted its JQ and a few other's and losi will have heaps of people but so far the car looks bloody good too as well as the amazing marketing..

Once you see it in person and driven.. you will understand even more why it's a good car.. yes it wont be 7 seconds faster than any other's but I can garuntee it will be one of the contenders for nationals and so on


Ha - thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one to perceive it this way.

I am NOT saying his car isn't as good as any other. I'm just saying that, so far, I don't see no reason why it'd be any better...

The 'Rango/B44.1 examples don't hold true, especially not the AE one... we're talking about a company who's done nothing but gaining world titles for the past 30 years...

It'd take a serious mechanical genius to suddenly, out of private funds with no top-notch car full-time tester/developper team, come out with a car that's soooo much better than the rest of the competition, when the competition includes such big names who's been doing nothing but developing racecars for the past 20yrs such as J. Hudy (XRay), K. Sanada (Mugen), C. Lett (AE), J. Johnson and G. Losi (Kyosho), J. Steenari (Losi) and so on so forth.

I do reckon J. Quagraine sure is a good pilot, probably a good engineer too, maybe a good businessman (time will tell) but CERTAINLY a fantastic marketeer. This is probably the highest ROI campaign in RC ever, as he's managed to make people believe that different go-to-market strategy can only mean his car is better ;)

I'll watch and see how the car performs both in future club races as well as national and international events...

Paul

["JQ"]

Well, this is the thing, I don't think I have been doing such a great job at marketing, I think the competition hasn't been doing a very good job for marketing. They all did it the same, not really saying anything interesting. I never even studied marketing! If everyone did what I do, then I would have done an ok job, normal. Do you think 1 person can do better than a company with a separate marketing department? I don't think so!

BUT, somehow I managed to do a good job, call it luck, good friends, or a clever few months in my life where I made the right choices, the most important thing is the product itself. Yes it became successful now, but no amount of quality marketing will save me if the product doesn't live up to the expectations.

And that my friends, is why I designed so it would. It's not the same as the other cars, and when more people get to drive it, they will see what I mean. Some may not think its anything special, some may not like it, but I think most who drive it will agree that it has potential to be a great car in anyone's hands.

A second important factor is support, THE Support is something that I hope will be second to none with this product, and whatever help or support someone needs, it will be made available.

[showtime]

This is probably the highest ROI campaign in RC ever, as he's managed to make people believe that different go-to-market strategy can only mean his car is better ;)

Paul

i'm pretty sure there's been no smoke & mirrors, hypnotism or even Jedi mind tricks to fool anybody into thinking THE car is anything it isn't :eh?:

what you have had is a never seen before transparency. with information about why certain design elements of THE car have been done in a certain way, or not. plus some insight into the thought processes behind those decisions.
you interpret that information as you see it based on your thinking & then YOU decide yourself if you want to buy into the concept :)

if anything you'd be making an "informed" decision based on real technical information rather than just believing traditional marketing hype with slogans like "aerospace alloy chassis" or "new & improved geometry" & phrases like "fast enough to win the world championship" etc :lol:


oh one last thing.........This is THE car you are looking for...
http://www.tgdaily.com/sites/default/files/stock/article_images/misc/jedimindtrickbenkenobi.jpg

[Lonestar]

JQ - you're a natural-born marketeer. The name of the car, with caps letters and all, with that trick coming over and over again all over the internet and being rehashed to death, is a stroke of genius that built crazy awareness. The few months before the release saw the best guerilla-marketing campaing in RC ever, a real 2.0 campaign. Your thread on RCtech received an absolutely insane amount of followers and you animated it nicely. Your well-publicized trips to the US gained you instant visibility on the US market, which is key to success ("THEpunt" thing was awesome). The product teasing was perfectly executed. Teaming with Amain for US distribution was again pure genius as they're the only who can give you such reach from scratch (then again Bennet is likely not leaving you with much left, financially speaking - distribution has a cost...). What you've achieved, commercially, is unbelievable... you deserve massive success for that, no doubt. It took almost 10yrs to Strenge to do what you've done in one.

Now, again, I don't want to be seen as the party-pooper who bashes the product, because this isn't my intent... but I am still failing to see how it can handle that differently from the other top-contenders, as, well, it uses the same technical choices and architecture that have been the rules in the hobby for about 15 years now, and that top-level companies have spent ages refining and fine-tuning. People now have very high expectations about your product based on the pre-launch marketing - we'll judge it on the track :)

I wish you a genuine Good luck,
Paul

["JQ"]

It handles differently mainly because the geometry is so different.

Thank you

[mof]

it uses the same technical choices and architecture that have been the rules in the hobby for about 15 years now


Like the short A arms? :woot:

[showtime]

well.........

THE wait is over for me! just had a knock at the door :thumbsup:



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looks like we know where number 39 is :woot: my old Motocross number :thumbsup:

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[jamiekerr14]

Good lord! Adam.. you have all 4! I envy you if so :thumbsup:

1 for Rob?

[showtime]

2 each :thumbsup:

just to cover any spares we might need before THE spares order arrives!
although looking at the weather they wont be seeing any action for a few weeks yet.
winter hibernation all round :)

[Chris Doughty]

who got #46?

[jamiekerr14]

Very nice! Yeah I know.. sucks bawlz.. weather is not playing ball thats for sure! At this rate you both will have your's built before Grant does :D

[showtime]

who got #46?

THE man himself :woot:

[Chris Doughty]

JQ or actual Rossi?

I didn't see anything on Neo about Rossi signing for JQ though...

[showtime]

sshhh its supposed to be a secret. big christmas day headline!


have to think of something else now :eh?:

anyone got Daniel Craigs number? i got chassis 007 going begging here :woot:

[Chris Doughty]

oh bugger, ive let the cat out of the bag now :S

[MHeadling]

Good job Showtime! :thumbsup: Can we have some nice build pics dude, car looks ace btw! Been keeping an eye on this one!

[showtime]

i know that Steve & Scott Bass (GB modelsport, UK distributor) are doing a detailed build with pics already :)

[MHeadling]

Sweet, I'll go and track down their website and have a look! :D

Enjoy THE build!

[steelie600]

Its not up yet Mark as Steve is busy filling all the orders at the minute!! THE car and THE spares are flying out of the door!!

But keep your eyes peeled it will get done over the next few days!! The only reason I didnt do a Maxbashing one is because of THE official build feature!!

[MHeadling]

Ok no worries, I will keep an eye on the website

[showtime]

i bet you had a .28 engine dusted off & ready LOL :woot:

[showtime]

just noticed the small print on the box :thumbsup:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj269/peitsamo/JQpaketti3.jpg

[jamiekerr14]

haha brilliant! thats priceless:woot:

[steelie600]

i bet you had a .28 engine dusted off & ready LOL :woot:

No mate Im sticking a Nosram 30 evo monster in there!!!:p:p:p

[t8rtot]

When is the review coming jimmy?

[Holeshot]

From JQ Products

We received reports that some main gears have been breaking, and as we had not broken a single gear during the development of THECar we knew something wasn't right. And as it turns out, we made a mistake. As you can see in the image below, the production gear on the left doesn't have enough material below the teeth. The pre-production gear on the right does. We are currently producing new gears which should be done by the end of the month.

So what now? Well if you have been running THECar without problems, you will probably not break the gear, as it seems to break immediately, or not at all. If you do break the gear, and do not want to try another one, you can run a Losi 45t gear, and use the JQ gasket, along with a Losi gasket, and it will work as a temporary fix.



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