Which 1/10th Electric 4WD Buggy???

[AdznKi]

Hi Everyone

I'm new to the forum.

I'm after a new electric 4WD 1/10th Electric Buggy but can't decide which one to buy.

The choice so far is between several:-

J Concepts BJ4 World Edition
Kyosho Lazer ZX5
Losi XX4 WE
Losi XXX4 G+
Team Associated B44
Yokomo BCX Factory Competition.

I'm after a buggy thats got out and out speed, is robust and has parts which are readily available. I'm just getting back in to RC racing, so the car must be competitive, although at the moment its mainly for a bit of fun with a view to getting serious in the near future!

Any advice on which electric motor to go for, anything up to £70/£80 or so.

Any comments would be appreciated. I just don't know which one to go for!!! :confused:

Thanks

AdznKi

[bert digler]

Hi Everyone

I'm new to the forum.

I'm after a new electric 4WD 1/10th Electric Buggy but can't decide which one to buy.

The choice so far is between several:-

J Concepts BJ4 World Edition
Kyosho Lazer ZX5
Losi XX4 WE
Losi XXX4 G+
Team Associated B44
Yokomo BCX Factory Competition.

I'm after a buggy thats got out and out speed, is robust and has parts which are readily available. I'm just getting back in to RC racing, so the car must be competitive, although at the moment its mainly for a bit of fun with a view to getting serious in the near future!

Any advice on which electric motor to go for, anything up to £70/£80 or so.

Any comments would be appreciated. I just don't know which one to go for!!! :confused:

Thanks

AdznKi

hi mate ive run lots of different cars and found the bj4 the most forgiving so either bj4 or b44 mate:D

[Fiddybux]

Hi mate,

You'll never get a proper answer on this...all those cars you mentioned are winners in the right hands.

I suppose what really counts is whether you can get spares easily.

I run a XX4 converted into an X-Factory X-5 and I get most of my parts from the states as a result...but I tent to buy in bulk so I can afford to wait a while. Lovely over bumps and very very fast due to the low internal ratio.

With Lazers you will be breaking pivot clamps all the time - this is a known weakness - but you need these weak spots or otherwise something more critical breaks. You could get aluminium ones though. Otherwise the Lazer is a great car too. Parts are really cheap for Kyosho's...but availaility??? Dunno.

No doubt the B44 will be a winner when in circulation....and Associated are always well supported in the shops...but there will be millions of these everywhere and I'd prefer something a little less conventional. I mean, if you look at any club count how many B4's there are....it's just boring!

The one thing I would steer clear of is the XXX-4....not as good over the bumps as a XX4, fut technically faster due to the belt arrangement. If you want to go the Losi route, do what I did and convert a XX-4 into an X-5.

Anyway, anything you buy from your list will be good enough and competitive when tuned properly. That is the tricky part.

[bigred5765]

you missed out the most obvious choice the x factory x5 its ace

[Spencer Mulcahy]

There is also the Hotbodies D4 parts are cheep and good availability the setup advise on the website is second to none and there are some very good drivers running them this year as well. (I dont include myself in that last statment:D)

[chrispattinson]

There is also the Tamiya TRF501X.

Bulletproof construction, and very fast (European Champion Car).

Spares need to be ordered on ebay though, as not available at your LHS.

[AdznKi]

Thanks for you replies!

Has anyone any comments on the Yokomo MR-4BX?

[footey]

ive run most 4wd cars and ive found the bj4 car the best for me its strong and goes well im not a sponcered driver saying by this or that car so my advice would be a bj4we or a b44 as same car but possibly will be easyer to get parts as for the yokomo i think u have to do alot to get the best out of the car

[rcracer]

ive run most 4wd cars

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[Lee Martin]

B44's an improvement on the Bj4 i must say.

and at a really good price!

[RogerM]

Pidge, in what way is the B44 an improvment over the BJ4WE???

Curious.

[xx4-nutter]

B44's an improvement on the Bj4 i must say.

and at a really good price!


if anything its a cheaper version of the bj4, only upside i see is not having to Feck around with ajusting a slipper clutch by removving the centre spur and what not

and the rear tower mounts made from plastic...

.. best thing id say to do is buy a ( bling ) worlds edition bj4 and buy the AE slipper system

[Lee Martin]

the rear kick up is a big improvement!

plastic steering reduces alot of slop. make it feel more reactive!

having a slipper that works is awesome! u will love it! big improvement!!!!

front hubs are alot better and feel more stable due to material.

rear hubs have big bearings for consistentcy and durability.

you can use same wing on B4 and B44 as holes in same place.!

[Richard Lowe]

Bah, cheap plastic copy :p

Haha :)

[AndyM]

haha...you sticking with the BJ4 rich??

[Lee Martin]

the BJ4 is awesome........but even awesome can be improved

[PTRU]

as mentioned all the cars are quick but the D4 hot bodys is the most robust

[Lee Martin]

hahahaha.........u wished!!!!

slipper/diff boy!

[Richard Lowe]

Haha :D

[ashleyb4]

May i recomend the xx4

Robust very very easy to drive and and very simple to setup. What else would you want.

A

[Richard Lowe]

May i recomend the xx4... Robust

Hahahahahahaha x2 :p

[ashleyb4]

ASH - Stop swearing please

[AndyM]

i know a few people, racing BJ4's, that have been thru no center drive shafts this season, you have been thru 2 belts. ;)

doesnt mean anything ash...he was only having a joke.

[Richard Lowe]

Sweary
I was only messing Ash :)

[danDanEFC]

Doesnt look like there is much between them

Maybe look at what others are using at your local track

[Lee Martin]

xx4...robust..................

its a damn easter egg!!!!!

a kid could snapped and eat the thing.

[ashleyb4]

OK how much exsperiance have you lto had drving the xx4.


A????

[Lee Martin]

made a europeon A final with one............................

have you?

[modelimages]

lee, calm down take a deep breath and count to ten.

then rip him a new one:)

often heard it said that lee martin could be quite good once he has had some experience

[modelimages]

made a europeon A final with one............................

have you?

is that all, bloody hell come back when you know what your talking about

[Nick Goodall]

lee, calm down take a deep breath and count to ten.

then rip him a new one:)

often heard it said that lee martin could be quite good once he has had some experience

Funnily enough that is true - i remember always saying he would be good :D

[Lee Martin]

heheheheeh

[modelimages]

Funnily enough that is true - i remember always saying he would be good :D

no you said he would be good for nothing:)

[ashleyb4]

Just the one

A

[modelimages]

OK how much exsperiance have you lto had drving the xx4.


A????

i am thinking of starting a new thread entitled

"posts i wish i had not made"

[Lee Martin]

only drove xx4 for one euros....would fall aprt the other times!

made 7 euro A's now though if you wanan add them up...........

how many regional A's you made???? ahem

[ashleyb4]

Im not to far off.

A:D

[Lee Martin]

what like 7 off?

[jimmy]

this thread seems to have turned into the XX4-hate thread! Please move your love / disgust for that car over there! :)

It's funny tho, hehe.

[ashleyb4]

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finals not places lol

A

[Northy]

Get a room you two! It's a full on flirt-fest! :p:p:p:p:p:p

G

[Lee Martin]

shut it ho.

hahahah

[Spencer Mulcahy]

made a europeon A final with one............................

have you?

So Ner ner ner.:D.

One day your boat will come Ash when you have a track in you back garden to practice on. :D:D

[Nick Goodall]

Ash you should look at buying a Losi JRX2 or possibly XX - You'd love them.... Retro racing is the future i'm told, certainly seems the XX4 fits that too as i remember it's debut in 1996 - Can't believe it's still running really!

[MK999]

This thread delivers. *stamp of approval*

[Lee Martin]

So Ner ner ner.:D.

One day your boat will come Ash when you have a track in you back garden to practice on. :D:D

think you will find i made 5 euro A's with no track to praccie on.....

[Kopite]

think you will find i made 5 euro A's with no track to praccie on.....


can't drink for shit though

[Cockerill]

OK how much exsperiance have you lto had drving the xx4.


A????

made a europeon A final with one............................

have you?

Post of the year!

[ashleyb4]

I put my foot in it didnt i lol

A

[Nick Goodall]

I put my foot in it didnt i lol

A

No more then usual :D

[modelimages]

I put my foot in it didnt i lol

A
no you put both of them in

[Northy]

shut it ho.

hahahah

:eh?::p:p:p:p:p

[Kopite]

probably not the best place to put this, but does anyone wanna buy my xx-4???? :D

Pidge???

[Nick Goodall]

Stan, you fed up with it already??????? :D:D

[ashleyb4]

I dont understand why everyone hates the xx4 its still a very qcik car quicker than stuff liek the x11, lazer zx5, bj4, x5 and BX. I cant seem to understand why you guys hate it. So its a little old but it shows it is an amazing car. Show me another car that it 11 years old and can still win nationals.

A

[ashleyb4]

No but if you dont want you losi sponsership ill have it lol

A
probably not the best place to put this, but does anyone wanna buy my xx-4???? :D

Pidge???

[AndyM]

...very qcik car quicker than stuff liek...

...quick....like...
:p

[Kopite]

got a different car now Nick, fancy buying my xx-4 off me? Sure your future wife will be most pleased!!

[millzy]

you got an academy off helgar

[ashleyb4]

Mark Academy Stanley:D:D

A

[jimmy]

I dont understand why everyone hates the xx4 its still a very qcik car quicker than stuff liek the x11, lazer zx5, bj4, x5 and BX. I cant seem to understand why you guys hate it. So its a little old but it shows it is an amazing car. Show me another car that it 11 years old and can still win nationals.

A


The origin of the thread might be slightly lost, but it was actually - "new electric 4WD 1/10th Electric Buggy" - the XX4 is not new and it's no longer produced - nor ever will be.

[David Church]

You tell him J man, appreciation day for you!!!!!!!!:D

[Nick Goodall]

got a different car now Nick, fancy buying my xx-4 off me? Sure your future wife will be most pleased!!

Not a XXX? ;-)

I'll have to pass i'm afraid mate, think i'd best stick to 2wd - I'm pushing it enough with that alone :D When you going to get your ass down to Lee's??

[modelimages]

no one hates the car, it has like all cars some issues, the original thread starter asked for advice on which 4wd to go for, this is a difficult question as you asking for an opinion and everyone has one, from a shop point of view i dont care i sell most of them so which ever one he chooses suits me.

i do have some experience of all the cars except the tamiya, joe has driven most of them in the last 18mths, people take the piss a bit out of him turning up with new cars every couple of months but this is deliberate he is an average club driver, has made the odd A at regional level, so he is a good judge of how a car is to work on, support etc and it helps me to decide what spares to get for all the new cars.

he is currently sticking with the yokomo. spares are reasonably easy to get although a bit pricey and works on all tracks to a certain degree, his predator is very good on certain tracks but appalling on others, dan on the other hand has only had 2 4wd cars a CAT 3000 and the xx4, next year he will be changing to the B44, reasons the xx4 does brake easily (wishbones,belts and shock towers) it is a git to work on, dan is very aggresive in his driving style and he will either finish first or not at all at the juniors in round one he tq'd the whole meeting including all the f2's then broke in rd2 and 3, he then had to finish rd4 which he did in the 4th best time overall in that round to give him pole but he was close to not finishing at all, at the nationals this year he finished a lot lower than the previous year for the same reason he would do a D final time in round 1 and then fail to back it up with anything due to the car breaking. on an individual run the xx4 is quick but fragile, so we needed a car that was stronger, joe had a bj4 and converted it to bj4we and i knew the car was strong, the b44 is classed as a cheap bj4, i prefer the opposite that the bj4 is an expensive b44, realistically at a street price of 210-250 with titanium , screw collar shocks etc nothing else comes close in terms of performance for money.

[losixxx]

- nor ever will be.


never say never!! you never know!:D

[DanW]

Without doubt the B44 is going to be the best value for money, and will have the best spare parts availibilty - once the car hits the shops in volume that is

Yokomo spares aren't too hard to get hold of because there also imported by CML, but from past experience I would say the spares are very expensive.

The kyosho is well supported for spares and the prices are very reasonable. In the right hands its a very quick car, needs a few extra hop-up parts to make it realy duarble... Titanium turnbuckles, alu front brace and rear UJ's (UJ's are included if you buy the Special UK edition car). Although there are rumours abound of an updated car maybe in 2008.

X5 seems to handle really well, but an expensive route - you need a doner car and buy a conversion kit on top. You would have to talk to an X5 owner to get detail on spares and availibilty.

BJ4 - as previous poster has said, very simililar to B44 but a bigger price tag. I think the BJ4's will be a popular secondhand buy, but I can't see them selling many new cars when the B44 is out.

Depends if you want to buy now or if you wait till closer to the outdoor season - All sorts of new cars might be coming out - Serpents, Aeros, Schumachers?

For club level racing you might want to buy whatever everbody else is running so you have oppertunity to beg/buy/borrow/steal/swop spare parts and set-up advice.

[losixxx]

(b44, realistically at a street price of 210-250 with titanium , screw collar shocks etc nothing else comes close in terms of performance for money.
hell of a statement when there's probably only a few in the uk! think theres a few chassis's that come to mind in that catagory

[xx4-nutter]

I put my foot in it didnt i lol

A

good bye mr A !

u thought u had all the answers ! :P

[Lee Martin]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Wraggy]

Ash whats the sig all about

"THE BAD BOY OF RC - DONT MESS WITH ME OR ELSE!!!!!!"




WTF !!!

[ashleyb4]

it all started since paul rotherum editited one of my posts as a said f*ck and he sais i was avery bad boy as i swore. so i decided to put it in my sig lol.
I dont like it much any mroe though.

A

[Lee Martin]

camp bad boy maybe.......

[jimmy]

Paul didn't edit your filthy-mouthed post, but I did.:rolleyes:

[Chrislong]

As bad as Zig and Zag, but more annoying.

[ashleyb4]

Oh sorry it was jimmy it was jimmy.

A

[Kopite]

How did a topic of which 4wd car to buy deteriorate into Ashley's sexual orientation?

[Wraggy]

How did a topic of which 4wd car to buy deteriorate into Ashley's sexual orientation?
we can start one for you if you want Stan ??? :D

[Lee Martin]

stan curious as he wants a bit

[Kopite]

i'm too much man for the pair of you

[Wraggy]

i'm too much man for the pair of you

in u r Dreamz Gay Boy !!!!!:p

[Col]

it all started since paul rotherum editited one of my posts as a said f*ck and he sais i was avery bad boy as i swore. so i decided to put it in my sig lol.
I dont like it much any mroe though.

A

Translation anyone?:wtf:

[the wheel]

Hey guys all the 4wd cars listed are winners ,but you guys have left one out the MRC Academy sbv2 4wd car is very racey and durable car it is by far the most versitile of all in the 4wd scene right now hands down and box stock it is a winner and I have proved that and I know a lot of others that have proved it as well.The SBV2 ACADEMY is a pro level car at at very cheap price ,to me it was built with 8th scale in mind it is very beefy,well designed and constructed:rolleyes: