Tamiya Mini M03/M05

[mattJT]

Hi all

Just picked up one of these from an oopler and was surfing the old www to find some pics of electric installs, however couldn't seem to find an awful lot of them.

If any of you have an M03, could you post us a pic of your install to give me some ideas.

Many Thanks
Matt

[Dombrasky]

Hi ,
Is this any help
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:FOJDvT5jmWwJ:www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcmanual/m03.pdf+tamiya+mo3+parts+manual&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgkIPtvm7BukQwBA2AW4ImnwNN8fwSlW8i0Vag9 aXJfGg_wLfADI_tJyQ3cJseI_xefgr6131oSu3zHJDETdsgnKL Bf0Q7ITGHyNVf13hFZphjYl959145i3omLgcXO3s6r550q&sig=AHIEtbQKfoEp1BbdmTXIL937brjQ1EHYrg

[shawn]

Here you go, try this.
The Bible of Mini racing http://www.rc-mini.net/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44&Itemid=60

I have 3 of them and all are similar to the build shown with receiver in the rear with the esc up top.
Also each of mine have the openings in the rear part of the chassis taped up for both waterproofing and general keeping the crud out.

If you want a photo I can do but I think the link should answer your question.

[Mank]

I don't have any pics to post but if you have the stock M03 Tamiya TEU101BK ESC or smaller you can fit it inside the rear of the chassis,If not there's a nice space behind the servo which will easily fit any larger style ESC like the LRP super reverse..

Hope that helps

Mank

[mattJT]

Hi ,
Is this any help
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:FOJDvT5jmWwJ:www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcmanual/m03.pdf+tamiya+mo3+parts+manual&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgkIPtvm7BukQwBA2AW4ImnwNN8fwSlW8i0Vag9 aXJfGg_wLfADI_tJyQ3cJseI_xefgr6131oSu3zHJDETdsgnKL Bf0Q7ITGHyNVf13hFZphjYl959145i3omLgcXO3s6r550q&sig=AHIEtbQKfoEp1BbdmTXIL937brjQ1EHYrg

nice one mate :thumbsup: didn't get a manual with the car, this is very useful regardless :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[mattJT]

Here you go, try this.
The Bible of Mini racing http://www.rc-mini.net/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44&Itemid=60

I have 3 of them and all are similar to the build shown with receiver in the rear with the esc up top.
Also each of mine have the openings in the rear part of the chassis taped up for both waterproofing and general keeping the crud out.

If you want a photo I can do but I think the link should answer your question.

Glad I posted something here, that's a 2nd fantastic link :thumbsup:

I'm up to two mini's now, got the M05 pro too last week, saw the M03 on oople over the weekend and couldn't resist the price :thumbsup:

Interesting the difference between the two cars tho.

[mattJT]

I don't have any pics to post but if you have the stock M03 Tamiya TEU101BK ESC or smaller you can fit it inside the rear of the chassis,If not there's a nice space behind the servo which will easily fit any larger style ESC like the LRP super reverse..

Hope that helps

Mank


Tis funny, when first looked at the chassis, and saw that hole, thought that something was missing :lol:

Not too sure yet what I'm going to put in the car yet, have a spare mtroniks and 15t motor in me tool box, so may just run it on this for a while.

Cheers

[shawn]

They certainly are different and the M05 with it's more balanced look appears as though it should be faster, but having used both back to back for some time at my club (Eastbourne) we've found the '03 to be quicker on the tarmac.
Quite why we don't know but the '05 just has moments of too much understeer, but dial in some steering and all it does is give it a large amount of oversteer.
Where as the M03 tends to be more sure whatever the surface, whatever the conditions, often with a near box standard setup.

Overtime everyone that had the M05 at Eastbourne have slowly gone back to their old cars
On carpet however it seems to be down to personal preference.

Read through the the pages of info on Mini.net and you will have yourself a fast car.
If you allowed to, run it with no extra weight and very little ride height. It makes a vast difference ;)

[mattJT]

They certainly are different and the M05 with it's more balanced look appears as though it should be faster, but having used both back to back for some time at my club (Eastbourne) we've found the '03 to be quicker on the tarmac.
Quite why we don't know but the '05 just has moments of too much understeer, but dial in some steering and all it does is give it a large amount of oversteer.
Where as the M03 tends to be more sure whatever the surface, whatever the conditions, often with a near box standard setup.

Overtime everyone that had the M05 at Eastbourne have slowly gone back to their old cars
On carpet however it seems to be down to personal preference.

Read through the the pages of info on Mini.net and you will have yourself a fast car.
If you allowed to, run it with no extra weight and very little ride height. It makes a vast difference ;)

Going to be taking them both down to Medway Maritime in the new year, to start my indoor racing, tis carpet, so will be interesting to see how they both fair.

Not too sure what club rules are with regards to weights, not seen anything so far....think the ride height has to be 5mm, or nothing less than

[AdamBurgess]

As mentioned if your electrics are small enough you can fit the esc, receiver and PT inside the rear of the chassis. Then you can drill a hole just behind the servo and one next to the motor and run the wires inside the chassis. This way its looks nice and neat, plus keeps the weight down low and everything nicely protected from damage.
Pic of my m03, sorry about the very poor quality but you get the idea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/funkmonkey66/SDC11320.jpg

[shawn]

Along with most of the carpet clubs I'm sure Maritime have a minimum 5mm ride height rule and for the M03 set the rear to run the about .5mm lower than the front. Also 50wt oil in the front with blue springs and 40wt with yellows for the rear.

If you can get the TRF shocks then they will help (part no. 54000 I think) and with those use 2 hole piston all round with a black o ring inside each.

That should put you in the ball park ;)

With the M05 we were using 40wt with yellow springs all round.

If you are local to Maritime have you thought about West Kent in Tonbridge (WKRCC)?
It's another carpet club and there's a meeting this weekend.

[mattJT]

Along with most of the carpet clubs I'm sure Maritime have a minimum 5mm ride height rule and for the M03 set the rear to run the about .5mm lower than the front. Also 50wt oil in the front with blue springs and 40wt with yellows for the rear.

If you can get the TRF shocks then they will help (part no. 54000 I think) and with those use 2 hole piston all round with a black o ring inside each.

That should put you in the ball park ;)

With the M05 we were using 40wt with yellow springs all round.

If you are local to Maritime have you thought about West Kent in Tonbridge (WKRCC)?
It's another carpet club and there's a meeting this weekend.

Cheers for the info on springs, hadn't even got that far yet, been sorting out the electrics :)

Yeah the WKRCC is actually just down the road from where I work:thumbsup: had a look at it on the old www, also the sidcup club is just a close to me too.

That's defo the good thing about indoor racing....there's soooooo many tracks/clubs that I can now go to :thumbsup:

The M05 could have come with the TRF shocks, but due to funds couldn't quite afford the extra 25 would have cost, so have the clear pro shocks at the mo, read how they can be quite brittle.

[mattJT]

As mentioned if your electrics are small enough you can fit the esc, receiver and PT inside the rear of the chassis. Then you can drill a hole just behind the servo and one next to the motor and run the wires inside the chassis. This way its looks nice and neat, plus keeps the weight down low and everything nicely protected from damage.
Pic of my m03, sorry about the very poor quality but you get the idea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/funkmonkey66/SDC11320.jpg


Cool, cheers for the pic mate :thumbsup: certainly looks neat.

I have an LRP runner, which I'm certain will fit in there, and a small 2.4ghz receiver, so should be able to pull it off :)

We'll have to start a picture thread here :thumbsup:

[Mank]

I live near Sidcup but so far I've only raced at Southend mate..
On sundays at the outdoor track we're getting around 8 minis but they've just added them to the nights racing at Barleylands Farm in Basildon,indoor Prima carpet,on tuesday night..
I've wanted to try out Sidcup and Maritime but bottled out a couple of times as i'm still pretty new to racing after car park bashing for years..!

Maybe i should replace quitting smoking as a New Years resolution with more Mini Racing...:D:D:D

Mank

[mattJT]

I live near Sidcup but so far I've only raced at Southend mate..
On sundays at the outdoor track we're getting around 8 minis but they've just added them to the nights racing at Barleylands Farm in Basildon,indoor Prima carpet,on tuesday night..
I've wanted to try out Sidcup and Maritime but bottled out a couple of times as i'm still pretty new to racing after car park bashing for years..!

Maybe i should replace quitting smoking as a New Years resolution with more Mini Racing...:D:D:D

Mank

:) I haven't even bothered to say will try and quit this year, but like the idea of more racing as a resolution tho :lol:

Gonna do maritime on a saturday practice first tho me thinks to build the ol confidence up a bit.

Mind you will soon overcome my racing nerves, taking the short course over to EPR on sunday for their winter warmer, will be me first race ever :thumbsup:

[Mank]

:) I haven't even bothered to say will try and quit this year, but like the idea of more racing as a resolution tho :lol:

Gonna do maritime on a saturday practice first tho me thinks to build the ol confidence up a bit.

Mind you will soon overcome my racing nerves, taking the short course over to EPR on sunday for their winter warmer, will be me first race ever :thumbsup:

Yeah good to get a bit of practice in and find out what tyres work at Maritime before you race there,my first attempt on carpet couldn't have gone much worse due to my poor choice of tyres which made the car have less grip than it was ice..!
Good luck with your first Race on sunday and let us know how you get on..

Happy New Year

Mank

[ch!3f]

bit off subject but what tyres do people use???wanting for tarmac and probably carpet too

[Mank]

bit off subject but what tyres do people use???wanting for tarmac and probably carpet too

It depends on the track but as an example outdoor tarmac I run standard kit 60D's on the front with S Grips on the back which works well;being a front wheel drive the rears will last you ages..
The first time on carpet I used the same combination and it was pretty terrible until I changed the front to S Grips with M Grips on the rear.A couple of guys use foams at my clubs indoor track which work well and from what i've been told Sidcup racers run Sweep mini slicks..
So, I guess it's down to what suits the track and the best advice I can give is to not be afraid to ask the quick fellas what they use as the great thing about this sport/hobby is people are usually happy to help..

Good luck mate

Mank

[Dombrasky]

Im not sure about tarmac,but these work really well on carpet,cheap too
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-mini-rubber-tires-yeah-racing-wl2007-tire-4pcs-p-29679.html

[shawn]

At Eastbourne we use S Grips on the front with Either Spice 24 or 28's on the rear. Ok it doesn't "look" quite right but never the less very effective.

On the carpet at Tonbridge (WKRCC) with a long straight I generally use S Grips all round and apply superglue to the outside tread on the front's if grip roll becomes a problem.

Sidcup being a short twisty layout I believe you can can away with the Spice or sweep tyres. As you probably know they are a smaller diameter than the Tamiya's and the difference to the top end on a long straight is quite noticable.

I have been experimenting the the new Tamiya 60d Type B slicks recently a they are very good on carpet. And the bit I like is the low wear rate.

:thumbsup:

[chris_dono]

I live near Sidcup but so far I've only raced at Southend mate..
On sundays at the outdoor track we're getting around 8 minis but they've just added them to the nights racing at Barleylands Farm in Basildon,indoor Prima carpet,on tuesday night..
I've wanted to try out Sidcup and Maritime but bottled out a couple of times as i'm still pretty new to racing after car park bashing for years..!

Maybe i should replace quitting smoking as a New Years resolution with more Mini Racing...:D:D:D

Mank

Come down to Sidcup, we're a friendly bunch, we won't bite :)

It's on next Friday night if you fancy a run

[chris_dono]

At Eastbourne we use S Grips on the front with Either Spice 24 or 28's on the rear. Ok it doesn't "look" quite right but never the less very effective.

On the carpet at Tonbridge (WKRCC) with a long straight I generally use S Grips all round and apply superglue to the outside tread on the front's if grip roll becomes a problem.

Sidcup being a short twisty layout I believe you can can away with the Spice or sweep tyres. As you probably know they are a smaller diameter than the Tamiya's and the difference to the top end on a long straight is quite noticable.

I have been experimenting the the new Tamiya 60d Type B slicks recently a they are very good on carpet. And the bit I like is the low wear rate.

:thumbsup:

Big thanks to Ben for doing all the testing at Sidcup, but yes Sweep 25's work very well there :)

I'm going to try the Solaris tyres too (H front and S rear) next time out to see how they go.

[Mank]

At Eastbourne we use S Grips on the front with Either Spice 24 or 28's on the rear. Ok it doesn't "look" quite right but never the less very effective.

On the carpet at Tonbridge (WKRCC) with a long straight I generally use S Grips all round and apply superglue to the outside tread on the front's if grip roll becomes a problem.

Sidcup being a short twisty layout I believe you can can away with the Spice or sweep tyres. As you probably know they are a smaller diameter than the Tamiya's and the difference to the top end on a long straight is quite noticable.

I have been experimenting the the new Tamiya 60d Type B slicks recently a they are very good on carpet. And the bit I like is the low wear rate.

:thumbsup:

Thanks for the info Shawn,
I've got a set of the smaller Tamiya slicks but to compensate for my poor cornering I need to be quick down the straights:D so I'll try some 60D slicks..

Mank

[Mank]

Come down to Sidcup, we're a friendly bunch, we won't bite :)

It's on next Friday night if you fancy a run

Thanks Chris
The rare couple of times i've been free to come to Sidcup you've been in the middle of a championship and you can imagine the scene..
Noob with a badly set up car gets lapped,tries to get out the way,takes out front runners in a pile up,ruins the championship and has to leave via the toilet window to avoid getting lynched:D:D:D

Mank

[chris_dono]

I wouldn't worry about it, we're always in a championship :)

come by on Friday and ask for me :)

[Mank]

I wouldn't worry about it, we're always in a championship :)

come by on Friday and ask for me :)

Thanks mate,
The only problem is i'm waiting for my BRCA license to come through.I'm joining through Southend club but paid and filled in details less than two weeks ago so i'm not sure when to expect it.If I get it this week i'll do my best to get there on friday..
What motors do you run?

Mank

[chris_dono]

that's ok, you can do three meetings before your license turns up. We run stock brushed sealed can motors up to 20t.

[Mank]

Looks like i'm all out of excuses so I'll see you friday mate..:thumbsup:

Mank

[mattJT]

that's ok, you can do three meetings before your license turns up. We run stock brushed sealed can motors up to 20t.


Cool, almost same specs as maritime then....as have invested in gear to meet their specs, good to see there's somewhere else I could race the mini, without the need to buy anymore electrics :thumbsup:

[mattJT]

Good luck with your first Race on sunday and let us know how you get on..

Happy New Year

Mank


Hey Mank, first race went well, whilst only managed an overall last place in B final (only beating a dns), had a great day, and managed to not finish last in some of the pre final heats :thumbsup:

Thats the first outdoor race done......now it's time to start tinkering with the mini and get the first indoor race done (will be nice to race indoors tho....I am frooooozzzzzennnnn still).

[Mank]

Hey Mank, first race went well, whilst only managed an overall last place in B final (only beating a dns), had a great day, and managed to not finish last in some of the pre final heats :thumbsup:

Thats the first outdoor race done......now it's time to start tinkering with the mini and get the first indoor race done (will be nice to race indoors tho....I am frooooozzzzzennnnn still).

Nice one mate
you certainly did better than I did on my first meeting,I had to wait till the finals were run so I could find the rest of the pieces of my car that had fallen off during the heats..:D:D:D
Come to Sidcup on friday night cos if you're racing me i'll guarantee you won't be last..!:D

Mank

[mattJT]

Come to Sidcup on friday night cos if you're racing me i'll guarantee you won't be last..!:D

Mank


:lol: the battle for last place commences :lol:

On a different note, when running 2cell hard case lipo's, which ones do you all use in the mini and do you need to mod the battery compartment at all?

My trakpower doesn't fit and although my winforce one fits, this wouldn't be allowed as is in a soft casing.

[chris_dono]

Cool, almost same specs as maritime then....as have invested in gear to meet their specs, good to see there's somewhere else I could race the mini, without the need to buy anymore electrics :thumbsup:

Ben Ryan worked with Sidcup, Maritime and West Kent to standardise the rules, so that you can go between the three clubs and not have to worry about shells/motors etc :)

[chris_dono]

:lol: the battle for last place commences :lol:

On a different note, when running 2cell hard case lipo's, which ones do you all use in the mini and do you need to mod the battery compartment at all?

My trakpower doesn't fit and although my winforce one fits, this wouldn't be allowed as is in a soft casing.

Hey mate, I use Orion 3600's as they have rounded edges. I believe the M06 takes the square shaped ones without any mods though !

[mattJT]

Hey mate, I use Orion 3600's as they have rounded edges. I believe the M06 takes the square shaped ones without any mods though !


Cheers for info Chris, yeah had seen that the rules for all three clubs were pretty similar if not identical :thumbsup: tis a nightmare tho, wanna do all of them now, alas family commitments prevent that much investment of time :(

Cheers for info on lipos, as i've only used squared ones, have never looked for rounded ones, so just assumed i'd have to do a mod to the batt to get a squared one in, oops :blush:

[chris_dono]

If you've already done the mod, then fair enough :)

[mattJT]

If you've already done the mod, then fair enough :)

Fortunately not :thumbsup: am only at mucking about with installing electrics stage at the mo :)

[Mank]

I've got a couple of the Team Orion stick pack Lipos and even though they fit you'll have to do a simple mod on the battery chassis clips on an M03..
check out the link for a how to with pics...

www.rc-mini.net/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68:quick-fix-battery-fit&catid=51:quick-fix-battery-fit&Itemid=82

Mank

[mattJT]

cheers mank, I'm so going to have to spend tomorrow night looking at this site, looks like a real good source of info :thumbsup:

(finally got the M05 running well tonight, just need to sort the pinion out on the M03 then they'll both be ready :thumbsup:)

[mattJT]

Big thanks to Ben for doing all the testing at Sidcup, but yes Sweep 25's work very well there :)

I'm going to try the Solaris tyres too (H front and S rear) next time out to see how they go.


Gonna need to invest in some tyres soon me thinks, would these slicks be for the front only? and s's on the rear?

Took the mini down for practice at maritime today, had a good go round, not tooo bad driving considering, just needed to dodge the tourers, and those pan cars flyyyyyyyyyy......

Could anyone recommend a good place to buy mini tyres from, tried to find m and s grips, only found 1 seller through google :(

[sosidge]

Gonna need to invest in some tyres soon me thinks, would these slicks be for the front only? and s's on the rear?

Took the mini down for practice at maritime today, had a good go round, not tooo bad driving considering, just needed to dodge the tourers, and those pan cars flyyyyyyyyyy......

Could anyone recommend a good place to buy mini tyres from, tried to find m and s grips, only found 1 seller through google :(

The Tamiya tyres are quite hard to get hold of in the UK, and even if you can find them they are VERY expensive at UK retail prices.

The Sweep tyres mentioned above should be a lot easier to get hold of - they are supplied by Much More Racing UK so any one of their dealers shuld be able to get them or might already have them in stock - PM me if you need any help finding some.

I ran the Sweep 25's all round at the last round of the Chippenham CWIC series and managed to TQ (we won't mention the finals :cry:) so they are a pretty solid tyre. Superglue on the front sidewalls helps on carpet.

[mattJT]

many thanks for the info sosidge :)

will have a proper look for the sweeps.

[mattJT]

Found them at Apex, not bad full set for under 20 quid - in this instance, what does the prebuilt refer to do you think? don't appear to be any wheels in shot as well

Sweeps at Apex (http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/SWP-MN25.html)

[sosidge]

Found them at Apex, not bad full set for under 20 quid - in this instance, what does the prebuilt refer to do you think? don't appear to be any wheels in shot as well

Sweeps at Apex (http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/SWP-MN25.html)

Pre-builts come glued on the 5-spoke white wheels with pink inserts... usually. Occasionally the batches come through unglued, but with the same tyre/insert/wheel combo in the bag.

Just bear in mind that Apex are one of the shops that list everything available to them rather than everything that they have in stock... If you are struggling to find stock come Monday drop me a PM and I may be able to help you out.

[ian_r]

Try pit-bitz.co.uk (in Eastbourne) and he has in stock what he says he has stock!

[mattJT]

Try pit-bitz.co.uk (in Eastbourne) and he has in stock what he says he has stock!


done and dusted :thumbsup: got a painted shell off them to boot :thumbsup:

[mattJT]

Hi all

Had two sets of roll bars come with my second hand M05 and was thinking about fitting them to see if they make any impact on my otherwise awful driving :lol:

However have no idea how to fit them and can't find anything on google or in manual as to how and where they go :confused:

Could anyone point me towards a link etc that may help?

[mattJT]

Well guys, the sweeps did the trick as did having ally shocks, the right springs and some choice lead placement, so was well happy with last nights race.

Had last place in the b final to beat, and managed 6th out of 10 in the B, with 9 finishing - knocked 4.5 seconds off my best lap time and overall average lap was 3 seconds faster :thumbsup:

Mind you the three racing shock ends are pants, got tapped up the backside - one broke and when I looked at the other one funny that one broke too :thumbdown:

anyhow, cheers for the tips all, goes to show that set up makes a huuuuge difference.

matt

[Mank]

Hi Matt,
Good to hear you got your car hooked up and what a huge improvement to your lap times mate,looks like i'll battling for last place with myself when i finally get to race..:D:D
Work has been full on but fingers crossed i'll make it to Maritime or Sidcup by the end of the month..

Mank

[mattJT]

looks like i'll battling for last place with myself when i finally get to race..:D:D



Hi Mank

Well, maybe not, my mates coming down for the next meet on the 22nd, closest his come to driving let alone racing was a 5 minute practice run before the last race day.....he got taken out by a touring car, that broke a part, that no-one seemed to have - so he couldn't race....so.....you will have a fight on your hands....not forgetting that i'm still in the very bottom half, so i'll be there too :thumbsup:

I'm toying with the idea of sidcup still, but as now started down maritime, want to really get the hang of one track before venturing down to another.

If you do do maritime, can send you the info and set up advice that I got from here and there that when put together was just right :thumbsup:

Hopefully see you there next time round if work permits.

Matt

[Mank]

Nice one Matt,any tips to get my car set up for Maritime would be spot on mate..
Only problem is I won't be able to blame my car set up as the reason I came last..:D

Mank

[Mank]

Hello fellas
I just got a pair of 60D Type B Slicks so should I go with soft or hard inserts for running on carpet..?

Mank

[mattJT]

Just to let you all know, I bought these sweep 25degs from dinball on ebay (hk seller)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sweep-SW4-MN25-1-10-Mini-RC-Tire-25deg-/130465726274?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e605cff42

Thought that even for tyres that the price was good, however item came today - only took a week and a half to get to me. Anyway, was extremely surprised to find a complete set, wheels, sweep inserts and tyres in the package.

So that's a complete set of sweeps for less than 11 quid :thumbsup:

Checked advert and does state tyres only? Bargain tho :D

[mattJT]

Just wondering if any of you have run both these sets and if there's much difference on carpet?

Can get a full set of Tamiya slicks (new uk) off the bay for £10.


Cheers
matt