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losichris
27-10-2007, 10:22 AM
it says on the site if ppl can get together and arrange something then we can run a meeting over the winter just let roger know.
does anyone fancy this next week or week after if weathers ok?

Can we address the commitee members to attend or help setup a meeting as the amount of interest in the club is decenting.
thank you
chris

losichris
27-10-2007, 02:40 PM
rubish

losichris
27-10-2007, 06:17 PM
Just thort id add to the thread as there has been 60 views and not one reply.
ive been racing at bury metro now since the late 90's and the amount of ppl attending club meetings the second half of this year is a complete joke!!
There are 2 clubs in the northwest and people would rather travel hundreds of miles to a track consisting of man-made obsticals when theres a purpose built track thats always well maintained and in great shape right on their doorstep.

COMMON PPL SUPORT YOUR LOCAL CLUB

MikePimlott
27-10-2007, 06:48 PM
Definitely, I love "racing" at bury, Not practicing with 3 other people.

If we could sort a winter series out with other clubs maybe this would spark some interest and get numbers up. (maybe a bit late now)

mattym0310
27-10-2007, 06:59 PM
although this is not my local club [i come from york] i wud love to get down there at some point during the winter. or try atleast

losichris
27-10-2007, 07:27 PM
exactly mike, im totally sick of going down every sunday and following myself around the track with 2 or 3 other people, frankly its getting boring.
The club needs some organization and help, it seems the only interest is when a national or regional meeting is held.
if we can get a few date over the winter, maybe in december or january then thats better than nothing.
at them moment tho its looking very bleak :mad:

RobHatcliffe
27-10-2007, 08:28 PM
Chris

You asked to address the committee members - well I am one, and here I am.

I can't make tomorrow or next Sunday due to other stuff with the family. How about a push towards arranging a meeting on Sunday November 11th, subject to Roger's agreement.

I am willing to get there early, open up, and build a track.

Let's get some names on this thread for those who WILL attend, here's the first one - Curtis Hatcliffe.

I'll speak to Roger about fixing some winter dates, maybe one Sunday per month avoiding the big indoor meetings. We tried this a couple of years ago and it was quite successful, although the weather spoiled a few Sundays (I remember me & Woody stood debating whether we could race in 3 inches of snow :D)

Rob

losichris
27-10-2007, 08:45 PM
cheers for replying Rob.
its not just winter racing or lack of as the case my be, its throughout the summer as well,people just arnt bothering.
we need as many names as possible and we can get a mini series going or something.

RobHatcliffe
28-10-2007, 11:39 AM
I understand your point Chris, but let's go one step at a time eh?

Let's try to get some names down for a meeting on 11th November before we start worrying about anything else.

Anyone else coming??

losichris
28-10-2007, 12:08 PM
cool
maybe we could get a sticky on this forum, maybe give us an idea on numbers?
dont see why the NW lads cant come down for a club meeting outdoors instead of going elsewhere.

PaulRotheram
28-10-2007, 07:36 PM
11th November is a Batley indoors meet.. not a good idea to clash with them if you want to get a good turn out.

losichris
28-10-2007, 08:06 PM
ye i was going to suggest the 18th unless somewhere else is running..weather permitting

RobHatcliffe
28-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Thanks Paul, I didn't realise that.

18th November then, any takers? I know it's a few weeks away but we can at least set the ball rolling.

MikePimlott
29-10-2007, 07:48 AM
ME. Ill be there 18th November. Speak to Roger and lets open a new thread, Bury metro winter series round 1.

Whens Kiddy regional on ????

Chrislong
29-10-2007, 11:09 AM
I live 2 miles away, but if Bury don't want a national for 2008 there is no point in me going. I need to get results and to do that I need to practice on the tracks that are going to hold them.

There are many other racers like this, lots infact. The trouble is now there is not enough 'new blood' to build the core of the racing loyalty, there is no structured club series, and there is no shop in Bury selling kits to introduce new comers like Ste Glover used to.

Id like Bury to survive, but it needs a core loyalty like Southport have, as it can't rely on the racers who have no loyalty and will basically go where the biggest race will be, or where the practice will be useful for a national.

Chris

RobHatcliffe
29-10-2007, 12:09 PM
I live 2 miles away, but if Bury don't want a national for 2008 there is no point in me going.

Id like Bury to survive, but it needs a core loyalty like Southport have, as it can't rely on the racers who have no loyalty Chris

Chris, you have been a Bury member for a long time, and as you say, you live just 2 miles away.

Should it not be a case of seeing what you can do for the club, rather than what the club can do for you and your racing ambitions??

Back to the thread...........anyone else able to commit themselves to racing on the 18th November??

Chrislong
29-10-2007, 12:21 PM
Rob :), long before you got involved with your token effort, Me and my parents took control of the club when Ste Glover left it to fall by the wayside, and the club never shut, it changed its name from Bury Model Shop Buggy Club to Bury Metro Radio Car Club. We got the rent reduced from an astronomical figure.

SO don't pull that card out, it doesn't go down well with me, especially when you put no prep work into the track for the national - yes, I WAS there for that along with the Woody's, Stu Hurley, several members...

If I was still racing at just regional and club level, then I certainly would commit myself to helping Roger & Stu, as I see it, the real committee is mainly just father & son and they don't get the help required which is a shame, so when the national and NE regional comes around, it goes back to my dad, John O'Connor and volunteers to assist Roger & Stu, they end up frustrated and unappreciated and national doesn't get applied for.

RobHatcliffe
29-10-2007, 12:47 PM
SO don't pull that card out, it doesn't go down well with me, especially when you put no prep work into the track for the national - yes, I WAS there for that along with the Woody's, Stu Hurley, several members...


One of those "several members" was actually me Chris. We chatted for a while whilst painting kerbs red & white. I gave Stu Hurley a lift.

Not going to argue with you on here, I just want to help the club with my "token efforts".

woOdy
29-10-2007, 12:56 PM
Well! this is whats going to happen. IF nobody comes racing then WE dont put in for a big meeting. When the committee dont even help most of the time, WHATS the point. MY Dad( Roger ) has kept this club open for TOO long with only a handfull of people turning up every week and even they are now going else where. Just think about it? Who is going to do it if Roger just decides not to come anymore? NO ONE. It will close and there is not going to be a club. WE do have a GREAT oppotunity right now as the Counsil have offered to make us a new track! I dont know how far this is off but it is there. If no body races, then whats the point of a new track? This is a club members club and if there is no members then there is no club. Get It!!!!!!!!!!!! IF you want the club to stay then please come to the meeting.

Chrislong
29-10-2007, 01:21 PM
One of those "several members" was actually me Chris. We chatted for a while whilst painting kerbs red & white. I gave Stu Hurley a lift.


My bad, sorry Rob.

Anyway, the 18th suits me, weather permitting I will be there.... and will try to persuade some of the York lads to come too.

Good news on the tracks Stu. If it does go ahead, then count me in for helping out on Saturdays and evenings on weekdays.

bigred5765
29-10-2007, 02:58 PM
i think it may be a idea to do a poll, or something like that and ask what would bring in more drivers/races, or ask why people have stopped coming, whats keeping them away.

sime46
29-10-2007, 05:48 PM
Me and half a dozen of the lads from mansfield were on about doing bury in the not too distant future so I'll talk to them and if weather is reasonable I cant see why we wouldn't give it a go.

The race controller
29-10-2007, 06:06 PM
I live 2 miles away, but if Bury don't want a national for 2008 there is no point in me going. I need to get results and to do that I need to practice on the tracks that are going to hold them.

There are many other racers like this, lots infact. The trouble is now there is not enough 'new blood' to build the core of the racing loyalty, there is no structured club series, and there is no shop in Bury selling kits to introduce new comers like Ste Glover used to.

Id like Bury to survive, but it needs a core loyalty like Southport have, as it can't rely on the racers who have no loyalty and will basically go where the biggest race will be, or where the practice will be useful for a national.

Chris

I can't count on your "loyalty" then can I Chris ??

The race controller
29-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Rob :), long before you got involved with your token effort, Me and my parents took control of the club when Ste Glover left it to fall by the wayside, and the club never shut, it changed its name from Bury Model Shop Buggy Club to Bury Metro Radio Car Club. We got the rent reduced from an astronomical figure.

SO don't pull that card out, it doesn't go down well with me, especially when you put no prep work into the track for the national - yes, I WAS there for that along with the Woody's, Stu Hurley, several members...

If I was still racing at just regional and club level, then I certainly would commit myself to helping Roger & Stu, as I see it, the real committee is mainly just father & son and they don't get the help required which is a shame, so when the national and NE regional comes around, it goes back to my dad, John O'Connor and volunteers to assist Roger & Stu, they end up frustrated and unappreciated and national doesn't get applied for.

You can't do the track up to National standard with ONE days work.
Even grass grows 24/7/365

Chrislong
29-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Have you ever?
But if I can get the lads from York over and the weather in our favour, I am very likely to be there.

The race controller
29-10-2007, 06:15 PM
Well! this is whats going to happen. IF nobody comes racing then WE dont put in for a big meeting. When the committee dont even help most of the time, WHATS the point. MY Dad( Roger ) has kept this club open for TOO long with only a handfull of people turning up every week and even they are now going else where. Just think about it? Who is going to do it if Roger just decides not to come anymore? NO ONE. It will close and there is not going to be a club. WE do have a GREAT oppotunity right now as the Counsil have offered to make us a new track! I dont know how far this is off but it is there. If no body races, then whats the point of a new track? This is a club members club and if there is no members then there is no club. Get It!!!!!!!!!!!! IF you want the club to stay then please come to the meeting.

Wrong there Stu. The new track will only happen IF the Gymnastics club get a new building.

The race controller
29-10-2007, 06:16 PM
My bad, sorry Rob.

Anyway, the 18th suits me, weather permitting I will be there.... and will try to persuade some of the York lads to come too.

Good news on the tracks Stu. If it does go ahead, then count me in for helping out on Saturdays and evenings on weekdays.

What will you do Chris ? come and watch the paint dry ?

Chrislong
29-10-2007, 06:29 PM
What will you do Chris ? come and watch the paint dry ?

Nah, you've just changed my mind, but thanks for the offer. :rolleyes:

losichris
29-10-2007, 08:33 PM
this thread has totally lost me :eh?:
alot of ppl came down for the week prior to the national (me included) thats why it looked so amazing.
anyways, im alwayz availible for trackwork sat/sun you just need to let me know stu/roger
so lets get some dates set and race again its a shame because its such a great track!

bigred5765
29-10-2007, 11:34 PM
wtf ?

I'm not taking sides, and its not my place to, but comments made are hardly ore inspiring, i thought were trying to get people to come not scare them off,

thats just about flattened that one

MikePimlott
30-10-2007, 12:09 AM
i thought were trying to get people to come not scare them off,

thats just about flattened that one

I agree i think this thread is harming the club rather than supporting it.

bigred5765
30-10-2007, 12:19 AM
ok lets see if we can get this one back on track,

my thoughts and no finger pointing here,
what puts me and matty of from coming,
bury track has become and has got, such a reputation for being a car breaker, it puts me of,matty wants to race not drive over obsticles,
and comments like well if you dont like it dont come, dont help guys,but may be comments like well if you dont like it we can have a track fixing day, and post on here when its happening may do, and then may be the guys will come over to sort it out,
hopefully, bury is were i spent all my early days racing, it was and still could be one of the top uk tracks.

mole2k
30-10-2007, 11:04 AM
As a complete outsider the comments in this thread certainly wouldnt inspire me to go the track was In over in England looking to race...

losichris
30-10-2007, 11:20 AM
I do agree with you here carl, but i dont think a track can ever be perfect, and everyone has an opinion on whats right or wrong with a track.
Bury has always been a true offroad track, and has had parts of the track added to keep the racing interesting and challenging.
at the end of the day theres no point in keeping people happy with track changes and maintainance if people wont turn up, i think thats why roger/stu are so angry.theres not enough loyalty within the club

This thread was never intended to create an argument, just to try and get a few meetings over the winter.

ok lets see if we can get this one back on track,

my thoughts and no finger pointing here,
what puts me and matty of from coming,
bury track has become and has got, such a reputation for being a car breaker, it puts me of,matty wants to race not drive over obsticles,
and comments like well if you dont like it dont come, dont help guys,but may be comments like well if you dont like it we can have a track fixing day, and post on here when its happening may do, and then may be the guys will come over to sort it out,
hopefully, bury is were i spent all my early days racing, it was and still could be one of the top uk tracks.

rallymadryan
23-03-2008, 03:06 PM
well ill do watever it takes to get people to come back to bury,,this year is meant to be my first season and id like to be racing at bury with lots of other people in competetive racing :confused: will that happen tho :confused: