View Full Version : Cogging? LRP Sphere 007 + 6,5t
dewil
31-10-2007, 01:47 PM
Hello guys!
I recently bought a Lrp sphere 007 with an Lrp 6,5t motor to use in my Lazer ZX-5. I have noticed that it hesitates a little when giving full throttle from a stand still and a guy at the club said it was cogging.
How can that be? it is geared 17 / 78 wich should be pretty low and I use standard settings and a team orion carbon lipo battery.
Is my gearing too high or is something wrong with my system or settings?:wtf:
Really would epreciate any help.
Best regards
/Will
GRIFF55
31-10-2007, 03:15 PM
Are you using ko radio with spektrum? I had this problem until i put the big spektrum cap on.
dewil
31-10-2007, 03:28 PM
noop, not using spectrum. just an ordniary fm 40 mhz hitec lynx 3d. There are however no glitches or anything, just that cogging when taking off.:confused:
ashleyb4
31-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Check your sensor lead.
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tyreman
31-10-2007, 04:57 PM
Check your sensor lead.
A
Get in there lad, Ashleys finally given some good advice;)
Northy
31-10-2007, 05:07 PM
When I forgot to plug in my sensor lead it wouldn't run at all.
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Kopite
31-10-2007, 05:08 PM
me too. Morale of the story here is....always use the sensor lead
..and don't eat yellow snow :)
grindog
31-10-2007, 05:13 PM
When I forgot to plug in my sensor lead it wouldn't run at all.
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Does this kill anything or is it just a no runner until plugged in?
ashleyb4
31-10-2007, 05:13 PM
hehe
There may just be one faulty wire in there which would cause the cogging but still allow the motor to work.
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Kopite
31-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Does this kill anything or is it just a no runner until plugged in?
The latter is what happened to me. It just sort of grumbled angrily at me until i plugged it in. No damage to the gear though
mark christopher
31-10-2007, 06:21 PM
take it off lipo mode!
dewil
31-10-2007, 08:05 PM
take it off lipo mode!
Why will that make it run better? Feels kind of nice to have the lipo mode on so I donīt discharge the pack too much.
I will order a new sesor lead or atleast inspect the current one.
Everyone agrees that the car isnīt overgeared?
Thanks for all the help by the way!:)
ashleyb4
31-10-2007, 08:10 PM
There is a good chance that is why you have your problem it only takes 30 seconds to try its worth it if it saves yo buying a new sensor lead.
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josh_smaxx
31-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Make sure the sensor lead is fully plugged in, mine was cogging tonight then i pushed the sorsor wire right in and it was perfect. Does the specktrum power cap get rid of the anoying pause before you get throttle?
burgie
31-10-2007, 09:43 PM
take it off lipo mode!
aye, this indeed is the solution the problem. It cured my sphere "stutter" straightaway, using the original comp version and team orion lipos.
if you got it on lipo mode, the esc might be cutting out momentarirly, also, check all your connections are in good order.
mark christopher
01-11-2007, 09:18 AM
Why will that make it run better? Feels kind of nice to have the lipo mode on so I donīt discharge the pack too much.
I will order a new sesor lead or atleast inspect the current one.
Everyone agrees that the car isnīt overgeared?
Thanks for all the help by the way!:)
simple when u give it full throttle your cells are dropping below the cut off point for lipo and the speedo cuts, then comes back when the load is off, trust me and try it. i found out by the same method!!:cool:
think on this, how did i know you had it on lipo mode when you have not said???
dewil
01-11-2007, 10:10 AM
simple when u give it full throttle your cells are dropping below the cut off point for lipo and the speedo cuts, then comes back when the load is off, trust me and try it. i found out by the same method!!:cool:
think on this, how did i know you had it on lipo mode when you have not said???
Sounds logical! Ill try that the next time im on the track! thanks a bunch for all the good help guys!:D
ginger fixit
01-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Hello guys!
I recently bought a Lrp sphere 007 with an Lrp 6,5t motor to use in my Lazer ZX-5. I have noticed that it hesitates a little when giving full throttle from a stand still and a guy at the club said it was cogging.
How can that be? it is geared 17 / 78 wich should be pretty low and I use standard settings and a team orion carbon lipo battery.
Is my gearing too high or is something wrong with my system or settings?:wtf:
Really would epreciate any help.
Best regards
/Will
cogging in a brushless system is caused mainly in 2 ways.
1 is as posted a sudden drop in power in when you give the gas, this from what i can gather happens more with lipos than nimh`s.
the other cause is when a sensor wire is old they seem to be less tolerante to heat than when new so when the motor is warm not hot then you give beans from the line it sees loads of power that it thinks might cause it damage so it hesitates or cogs
a new lead will sort the problem i would also check the winds in side to make sure they havnt got to hot and the laquer started to burn off.
i hope that helps i too have had a coging motor which was solved with a new sensor wire i think they start to blacken inside causing resistance which causes the problem.
Andy Bell
mark christopher
01-11-2007, 01:15 PM
its more to do with the voltage dropping on any pack not just lipo, a good lipo pack will be ok, my problem was not with my trakpower lipo but with some NIMH cells
dewil
03-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Mark C you were absolutely right. I tried taking it off the lipo-mode and now it runs super-smooth. Thanks for the help everyone!
/Will
B3buggy
26-11-2007, 02:22 PM
Hi guys,
thought i would post my question here rather than start a new thread.
I have a Sphere TC, and have been running an orion 13.5t for a few weeks without any problems. I decided to try a 'cheap' lrp eraser 10.5t to see how it went, and I had terrible cogging out of the slower corners.
It is running in nimh racing mode and is using the same sensor wire as with the orion. In the end i had to switch back to the orion, and all was fine.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks
Ross
B3buggy
03-12-2007, 06:43 PM
No one :yawn:?
I had a friend try this motor with a nosram matrix, and again had that same cogging problem. I also spoke to another competitor and he had the exact same problem with the nosram Dragon motor. Seems like the sport lrp/nosram motors dont like working with the competition speedo's:confused:
Thanks
Ross
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