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millzy
18-01-2011, 11:51 PM
hey guys,

few of you have asked for an indoor set up for the x2c, try this and let me know how you get on, any questions please ask

front
Oil 35w
Spring AE Blue
Piston 3 hole taper drilled to 1.2 all round
Shock set to 78.5 over all length
2mm external limiter
Middle shock pick up on tower
Outer shock pick up on Bone

Camber link, Outside on Tower Inside on Hub, 2 washers under ball stud ( on tower)
25 front hubs ** trimmed 2mm and set backward on wishbone.
Axel set to low ** trimmed 1mm to lower

**Ackerman bar flipped and lower 2mm

Front wing fitted

camber -1

Toe in/out 0

Rear

25w
Spring AE sliver
Piston 3 hole taper drilled to 1.2 all round
Shocks set to 90.5 over all length
4 internal spacers and 4mm external limiter
**New Inner hole drilled on shock tower
**New inner hole drilled on wishbone
Wishbone set backward * trimmed
Hubs set forward ** trimmed for shorter wheel base
**Rear roll bar fitted bar at 0.90.
Camber link set at Inside low on Hub
Camber link set to outside high on tower ** new hole pick up bracket moving pick up 3mm shorter
No Gurney on wing, but wing set forward

Camber -2
Anti squat 3 deg
Toe in 4 deg

40g lead under servo
60 G of lead in speedo. receiver tray
21g in each of the small pockets at rear of chassis next to motor
Crush tubes fitted all round in hubs
Wide rear wheels and narrow front wheel fitted on high grip tracks
Inserts from inside line racing - Donutz Blue all round
Tyres Schumacher mini pins all round, no rows cut
budgio
18-01-2011, 11:59 PM
Nice one millzy.
Still yet to give mine a proper run ... its been a donor car for others.:)
timmy121
19-01-2011, 09:43 AM
What doe's flipping the Ackerman bar do
millzy
19-01-2011, 05:07 PM
It gives more steering , and by lowering it you get more bump steer
JezT
19-01-2011, 10:34 PM
What do you use for crush tubes in the front hubs. I have used 5x7x? spacers in the rear hubs but there is so little space in the fronts with the "down pivot" close to the axle.
millzy
20-01-2011, 09:39 AM
Center of old bearings, filed down to fit
JezT
20-01-2011, 11:06 AM
Cheers - hadn't thought of that - will try that tonight.
millzy
20-01-2011, 12:53 PM
it was a tip from one of the other drivers, and a good one too.
OneKiwi
20-01-2011, 02:27 PM
MOre steering? Don't the steering hubs touch the caster hubs?

pics please if you can
millzy
21-01-2011, 07:55 AM
Yes they do, but on full lock you sterring should not touch the caster block bump stops. you can allways sand down the caster blocks or steering arms if on full lock you fell your still not hitting 100% of the servo throw

its more to do with the angle the wheels sit on that the lock you get.

pic will be next week , racing this weekend
Jaune
26-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks Millzy,

I will try a simillar setup tonight. The car was okay but wasn't good in tight turns. The shorter wheelbase might help.
4_cell_racer
26-01-2011, 11:38 PM
Axel set to low ** trimmed 1mm to lower

**Ackerman bar flipped and lower 2mm


Stupid questions :blush:

Axle set to low.....what do you mean??

Ackerman bar flipped.....where is this??

Sorry for the above questions :blush:
OneKiwi
27-01-2011, 06:19 AM
Stupid questions :blush:

Axle set to low.....what do you mean??

Ackerman bar flipped.....where is this??

Sorry for the above questions :blush:

ackerman bar item no. 125000423
I don' t know how to lower it tho
millzy
27-01-2011, 08:11 AM
Hi Guys, Ackerman flipped: This is at the front behind the bulkhead , its the bar that your steering turnbuckles pick up form to your starring arms, its lowed by placing shimz between the bar and the servo saver pick ups.

Axel low: the axel that the front wheel sits on, the steering arm is skimmed so that when sat in the caster block it’s at its lowest setting, its then shimed to stay low
millzy
27-01-2011, 08:13 AM
Thanks Millzy,

I will try a simillar setup tonight. The car was okay but wasn't good in tight turns. The shorter wheelbase might help.

what toe in are you runnig? i find the 4 deg is good if there is a lot of polish, but you will suffer a little on any carpet 180 bends, try going back to 3deg toe in on the rear

Im sstill playing with the rear camber link pick up right now- will report back on that
OneKiwi
27-01-2011, 08:22 AM
Hi Guys, Ackerman flipped: This is at the front behind the bulkhead , its the bar that your steering turnbuckles pick up form to your starring arms, its lowed by placing shimz between the bar and the servo saver pick ups.

Axel low: the axel that the front wheel sits on, the steering arm is skimmed so that when sat in the caster block it’s at its lowest setting, its then shimed to stay low


how many shims you put in there? and longer screws as well might me needed

axel low so the shims are put at the top. that can't be a big difference right?

What setup equiptment are you using?
millzy
27-01-2011, 11:19 AM
Just two wheelbase shims on both ( i belive the kit has one shim on the axel height- you will need to skim the bottom of the sterring arm to lower the axel) the bar and the axel , and no you don’t need longer screws.

lowering the axel will keep the front wheel closer/or pushed to the ground when the car is leaning over in a bend, but it also lowers the bumps steer, lowering the Ackerman bar resets the bump steer back to kit.

Hope this helps