View Full Version : kubica out!?
telboy
06-02-2011, 11:35 PM
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/2/11714.html
Nasty!
Dudders
06-02-2011, 11:40 PM
http://formulaone.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/kubica-involved-in-rally-accident/?src=mv
This could see the end of his F1 career with that amount of damage to his arm.
ralphee
07-02-2011, 07:20 AM
Just woke to see this, terrible news, and one of my favorite drivers, he will be missed this season for sure.
Thing is, what were Renault thinking allowing him to compete, so close to the start of the season?
I thought most contracts, frowned on this type of activity anyway, i recall Kimi always in the hot water with Ron for his Motocross shennanigins?
lee
Bagman
07-02-2011, 07:44 AM
The best thing Renault could do now is buy out Hulkenbergs contract. Senna and the other test driver aren't up to it as it looks like being a great car.
Dazzler
07-02-2011, 07:55 AM
Seems to be worse than they first let on....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9388940.stm
ralphee
07-02-2011, 08:11 AM
It doesnt look good, the hand could be a big problem, he may not get full function back in it yet....this is awful, for such a "still" rising star.
Both test drivers arent up to it, i agree, its terrible for Kubica, but also, a big problem for Renault, i think they could have been on the up this season?
Hulkenberg, there is a thought.
lee
Bagman
07-02-2011, 08:11 AM
With the new regs and having to do more and more stuff with your hands now I can't see him coming back. He was up there in that elite group (in what is a bumper period for good drivers) and doing it in a not so good car. Very few people have done that.
telboy
07-02-2011, 03:47 PM
Its reported that he is moving his fingers after the operation. So thats a good sign.
Although not an Ideal situation having senna in the car, how eerie would it be to have the senna helmet colours in a black and gold lotus car?
Bagman
07-02-2011, 03:57 PM
Its reported that he is moving his fingers after the operation. So thats a good sign.
Although not an Ideal situation having senna in the car, how eerie would it be to have the senna helmet colours in a black and gold lotus car?
I think it would be a bit of an anticlimax with the Senna colours. Unless he proves most people wrong. Personally I think this could be the making of Petrov. This might be just what he needs to push on, he's a good racer just needs more nouse.
Legacy555
07-02-2011, 04:01 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_XbMlay4rD20/TVAWhCBZ9iI/AAAAAAAACKU/zJRH2JPDsgM/s800/untitled.JPG
Yes, thats daylight through the bulkhead....... lucky to be alive
Legacy555
07-02-2011, 04:02 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_XbMlay4rD20/TVAWfRojqqI/AAAAAAAACKQ/W6YfLstnmcQ/350348059.jpg
Prior to extraction
Matt-h
07-02-2011, 04:06 PM
Scary! no wonder it took an hour to get him out.
How the hell did that not kill him?
Legacy555
07-02-2011, 04:11 PM
Scary! no wonder it took an hour to get him out.
How the hell did that not kill him?
Dash bars strong enough the mount the column and the fact that the seating position is nearly in the back seat probably saved his life.
Bagman
07-02-2011, 04:27 PM
Blimey, looks like he almost went off a drop too.
terry.sc
08-02-2011, 12:02 AM
Armco barrier in the front..
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03JhdT284kebc/610x.jpg
...and out the rear.
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1926/kubica3.png
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c3S3CN6MQ3AM/610x.jpg
telboy
08-02-2011, 12:12 AM
HOLY SH**!!!!
Didn't realise the armco went straight though the whole car!:o
Damn lucky boy!!
So he basically went into the end of the armco, spun, and pretty much wrapped the car in the barrier!
mikerobinson83
08-02-2011, 12:24 AM
Mr Kubica please can you pick 6 numbers between 1 and 49 for me!
joking aside, he is a very lucky man and i for one hope he makes a quick recovery, he was a good driver who had potential to do very well.
sldmodels
08-02-2011, 12:59 AM
And you know what, if he could have got out the car and walked away from it, he would have done and not thought anymore of it, yet me, you and every other normal person would be cacking ourselves to even look at a car.
Can't remember his name, but he used to drive for Williams, had a major accident in Nascar, lost one or both his legs, and now he does rally or touring cars, he just needs some adaptions to the car, but it should be possible for him to come back, I just wouldn't expect too much from him this season.
Hope he does come back from it.
ralphee
08-02-2011, 07:13 AM
Alex Zanardi wasnt it?
lee
Sarah, that made me chuckle, he could have a Blue Badge on his Lotus Renault so he can park anywhere to! Shouldn't mock though.
bodgit
08-02-2011, 10:00 AM
And you know what, if he could have got out the car and walked away from it, he would have done and not thought anymore of it, yet me, you and every other normal person would be cacking ourselves to even look at a car.
Can't remember his name, but he used to drive for Williams, had a major accident in Nascar, lost one or both his legs, and now he does rally or touring cars, he just needs some adaptions to the car, but it should be possible for him to come back, I just wouldn't expect too much from him this season.
Hope he does come back from it.
Zanardi had both his legs lost in the crash before the docs even got to him. They were looking to see the damge to his legs as the front of his car got tore off when they realised his legs went with it. Not too sure but in this pic is that flesh flying through the air above the wheel? One hell of a brave man to race again.
The crash occurred while Zanardi was leading the race in the closing laps. After a late pit stop, Zanardi was attempting to merge back onto the track when he accelerated abruptly and spun into the path of Patrick Carpentire. Carpentier was able to avoid him, but Alex Tagliana was not and Zanardi's car was impacted from the side, behind the front wheel, splitting the monocoque in half. Zanardi lost both legs (one at and one above the knee) in the impact and nearly three-quarters of his blood volume, though rapid medical intervention saved his life. Further portions of his legs were amputated during three hours of surgery to clean and facilitate closing the wounds.
http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-med-9910-305207-alex-zanardi-tagliani-crash.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_l5C0ZvYVC0A/SwiE78P_TII/AAAAAAAAAKQ/Oqb50t_88e0/s1600/Alex+Zanardi-1.jpg
*brrrr*!
Yeah, I saw that accident live, horrible!!!
Kubica is a very quick driver, but he seems a bit too crazy to me! I was surprised he survived that nasty F1 crash a few years ago too! And now this... he'd better start having a 1% safety margin! Reminds me a bit of Villeneuve, which had a nasty crash at Spa some years ago. His comment afterwards was: "One of the best crashes I've ever had"... mama mia...
I'd love to see Kimi or Sato take Robert's seat while he's recovering! Imagine Sato and Kobayashi battling it out on the track! Banzai!!! :thumbsup:
Hope you have a speed recovery Robert!
sldmodels
08-02-2011, 10:51 AM
Yeah that's it, although sometimes I think they refer to him using the longer version of his name.
Swalls
08-02-2011, 11:40 AM
Yea Zanardi's crash makes me feel sick every time I see it. It was Indy or Champ cars though wasn't it?
Anyway, this whole incident still speaks volumes for the safety of these modern race cars even given Kubica's injuries. Frankly the man has no right to be alive, so the fact he is already moving his fingers is amazing.
All the best Robert, and I hope that Senna can step up and prove people wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Dave Treacy
08-02-2011, 12:15 PM
My money is on the Hulk getting a 1 year contract at Renault. The reserve drivers aren't up to it, Renult need a recognised name.
Of course, they could be really politically smart and take Nelson Piquet Jr back.... sort of bury the past...
Bagman
08-02-2011, 12:29 PM
I'm with you, Hulkenberg is the only name with real potential unless as suggested above Kimi is a possible. He would be the ultimate wild card.
Hulkenberg is good, and will become better. But he hasn't snowed anything extraordinary on a regular basis so far IMHO (except pole in last years race). Old Rubens beat him in nearly every Q and race.
Kimi would have given excellent results, and be back in F1, from where he NEVER should have left (that stupid finn!). Regrettably there were some negative talk before last season, where he was rumoured to Renault. He (again a stupidity!) said to the press they were misusing his name to get attention... had he kept his mouth shut then he could have had his big opening now! He said he'd only return to a team that was capable of winning the championship. Most drivers are happy just to be in F1, or at least that's their view when they've been close to leaving... :D
Timo Glock, Adrian Sutil or Jarno Trulli would also be very fast in a good car. And more than happy to get away from lesser teams...
OR - whip out Mika Salo or Mika Häkkinen from their stables... I'd LOVE to see Mika give Schuey a bloody good hiding!!! :thumbsup: 8th championship... yeah, right...
DaveG28
08-02-2011, 01:31 PM
What's the point of making Senna reserve driver if you don't use him when one is needed...
I still think he can do a good job!
What's the point of making Senna reserve driver if you don't use him when one is needed...
I still think he can do a good job!
Good job??? He's too lazy (or not fit enough) to even keep his head straight when driving!!! (he let it rest on the side of the cockpit) The german commentaries made fun of that last season. When interviewed about it his reply was: "It's only qualifying, I won't do it in the race"...
This isn't Ayrton, it's his lazy nephew... :D
Richard Lowe
08-02-2011, 01:49 PM
My money is on the Hulk getting a 1 year contract at Renault. The reserve drivers aren't up to it, Renult need a recognised name.
Personally I can't see Craig fitting into the car, even if he could he'd make the team paint the wheels yellow :lol:
racingdwarf
08-02-2011, 02:03 PM
Quote Not too sure but in this pic is that flesh flying through the air above the wheel
Horrible photo that, seen it before, and yes that is flesh, worse still below the right wheel is Zanardi his glove etc can be seen in other photos, got to hospital with reported 1ltr of blood left, god only knows how he survided!
But like they say, "keep knocking at hevens door,at some point it may just open"
wacattack
08-02-2011, 04:11 PM
Personally I can't see Craig fitting into the car, even if he could he'd make the team paint the wheels yellow :lol:
Haha beat me to it, although I wasnt going to be quite so subtle, the fat git
lochness42
08-02-2011, 04:58 PM
I would like to see Nick Heidfeld on grid, he didn't do that bad last season.
Richard Lowe
08-02-2011, 05:30 PM
I wasnt going to be quite so subtle, the fat git :lol: :lol: :lol:
You could wear your dress again and be his grid girl :p
DaveG28
08-02-2011, 05:55 PM
Good job??? He's too lazy (or not fit enough) to even keep his head straight when driving!!! (he let it rest on the side of the cockpit) The german commentaries made fun of that last season. When interviewed about it his reply was: "It's only qualifying, I won't do it in the race"...
This isn't Ayrton, it's his lazy nephew... :D
I remember that, I also remember in Q3 of that race in Turkey at least 2 of the top 10 doing exactly the same, but because they were "top" drivers it didn't seem so funny to the commentators!! Senna wasn't racing single seaters in 2009 and had no testing and a s**t car last year, but everyone writes him off!! His only crime was being beaten by Klein, admittedly worrying!!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89366
Renault team owner Gerard Lopez said earlier today that the team would wait until after testing before deciding on who will partner Vitaly Petrov this year - and Heidfeld's chances will depend on how he compares pace-wise against Senna.
>> classic shoot-out! :thumbsup:
Razer
10-02-2011, 01:38 PM
Senna in this car would be fantastic. I do believe he has the talent, and a Senna in his second year in F1 in a Lotus Renault? How retro is that?
@Shy: Check out Hulkenbergs earlier career. He can't be bad. Also, keep an eye on Tom Blomqvist and Carlos Sainz Jr. This is interesting talent! :)
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