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markymark6183
13-02-2011, 10:05 PM
hi guys need some more advice. i've got the 10.5T fusion bl system on board my mad rat BUT the pinion is the one out of the kit which is the 21tooth, is this ok to run?? what difference does it make going more teeth or less teeth ?? and which would you recomend ???

thanks in advance :D

minke
13-02-2011, 10:22 PM
I have the 13.5t fusion exceed. Went from a 21T to a 23T found it better.

jpmatrix
13-02-2011, 10:24 PM
Just for a reference, I just upgraded to brushless on my Madrat.
I have installed a sp 7.5t motor and esc gt2.0 lrp speed passion and currently using a 24t pinion.

I gave it a test run on grass for 15min and the esc was just warm to the touch. the motor was not even hot.

I think it also depends what settings you have programmed into the fine tuning of your esc.

Battle_axe
13-02-2011, 11:09 PM
with a 10.5 you want to be running a 27 or 28 :thumbsup:

OneKiwi
14-02-2011, 06:24 AM
what about a 9T and a 6.5T??
are the pinions pitch 32?
48 pitch right?

markymark6183
14-02-2011, 07:45 AM
That's brill cheers guys, I'll order up a 27 or 28t today :thumbsup:

jpmatrix
14-02-2011, 07:47 AM
with a 10.5 you want to be running a 27 or 28 :thumbsup:

Crikey, didnt know you could go that high.
As mentioned in my previous post I have a 24t pinion.
Is that about right for a 7.5t brushless?

Slightly off topic, Is it safe to run without a esc fan as my current one is dead?

Timee80
14-02-2011, 08:06 AM
23 or 24 is about right for a 7.5t. no fan should be fine in a 2wd but keep an eye on temps. i ran a 27 pinion on a 10.5t and could have gone higher, prob best to fit a smaller spur actually as the motor is hanging way out back with a 27t pinion on standard spur.

markymark6183
14-02-2011, 08:57 AM
That's brill cheers guys, I'll order up a 27 or 28t today :thumbsup:

P.s what sort of top end speed would you get with a 27-28t ?

markymark6183
16-02-2011, 10:27 PM
Anybody know where to get a 27t pinion from

damselfly
16-02-2011, 11:37 PM
I've just fitted my Fusion 10.5t and absolutely love it. Those Guys at Logic Rc are helpful and decent. Guys too. I'm currently running the stock pinion (21t) and a 6 cell NIMH pack. Would I see a noticeable increase in speed if I was to move to a 7 cell and 27t pinion?
Thanks in advance for any replies.

Cameo
17-02-2011, 03:31 AM
Anybody know where the best place to get a pinion from is as wheelspin sent me a 27t pinion for a 47t spur when on the rat they are an 80t spur so the pinion is massive :(

I don't really understand what you've said.

If you're using the stock 80t 48dp spur then you need a 27 48dp pinion.

Did they send you a 27t 32dp pinion? Like on 1:8 cars?

Cameo
17-02-2011, 03:34 AM
I've just fitted my Fusion 10.5t and absolutely love it. Those Guys at Logic Rc are helpful and decent. Guys too. I'm currently running the stock pinion (21t) and a 6 cell NIMH pack. Would I see a noticeable increase in speed if I was to move to a 7 cell and 27t pinion?
Thanks in advance for any replies.

Get a lipo 40 - 60C rating, 4000 - 5500 mAh, 2 cell (S) 7.4 volt pack.

And yes put a 27t pinion on also, then you'll be impressed :thumbsup:

damselfly
17-02-2011, 05:12 AM
Get a lipo 40 - 60C rating, 4000 - 5500 mAh, 2 cell (S) 7.4 volt pack.

And yes put a 27t pinion on also, then you'll be impressed :thumbsup:

Got a Turnigy 4000mah 2s 50c on its way from eBay so i'm looking forward to that. Also cut off the Tamiya connector and fitted a Traxxas connector. Will get myself that pinion. Have you got an Ansmann part # please? Cheers.

jpmatrix
17-02-2011, 10:30 AM
Got a Turnigy 4000mah 2s 50c on its way from eBay so i'm looking forward to that. Also cut off the Tamiya connector and fitted a Traxxas connector. Will get myself that pinion. Have you got an Ansmann part # please? Cheers.

Hi.

You can purchase different sized pinion gears from Modelsport UK.
I ordered my 24t pinion and received it the next day. Very good service.

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=36720


James

damselfly
17-02-2011, 04:02 PM
Hi.

You can purchase different sized pinion gears from Modelsport UK.
I ordered my 24t pinion and received it the next day. Very good service.

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=36720


James

Good man, thanks for the link.

Cameo
18-02-2011, 03:38 AM
Got a Turnigy 4000mah 2s 50c on its way from eBay so i'm looking forward to that. Also cut off the Tamiya connector and fitted a Traxxas connector. Will get myself that pinion. Have you got an Ansmann part # please? Cheers.

That will also help generate more power nice work. As jpmatrix said re the pinion any brand will be fine.

You need to post your top speed results once you have it all sorted :thumbsup:

damselfly
27-02-2011, 01:35 AM
That will also help generate more power nice work. As jpmatrix said re the pinion any brand will be fine.

You need to post your top speed results once you have it all sorted :thumbsup:

Ok, it's all great fun with this buggy. It can glide around corners unlike my Rustler vxl.
I bought myself a 24t and 27t pinion and kept my spur stock. With the 24t pinion and 2s Turnigy lipo i'd guess I was hitting around 35 mph. When I put the 27t on it was probably hitting around 40 mph, maybe more. It seems only marginally slower than my vxl that's geared higher. These are just rough guesses, but i'm very, very happy with these results. The esc is hitting 98.4F maximum temperature, and the motor has reached a maximum of 100.6F after about 10 mins of speedruns. Happy days.
Thanks so much for the good information & help.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Ps- it was quite windy and about 10c outside when I did this test, as it always is in Oldham. Lol

markymark6183
27-02-2011, 09:40 AM
damselfly thats awsome buddy, i got the same set up but just waiting for my battery to turn up :thumbsup:

damselfly
28-02-2011, 02:00 AM
damselfly thats awsome buddy, i got the same set up but just waiting for my battery to turn up :thumbsup:

You'll love it when the Lipo is used, you really will.
If it wasn't so windy outside when I did my tests, I reckon my motor temp' might've been around 110-115F, so there's scope to gear higher.
Anyone tried anything bigger than a 27t pinion out of interest? If so, what was the result?

4_cell_racer
28-02-2011, 02:38 PM
I tried a 27t pinion with my 10.5 running a Tekin speedo (boost etc turned up) and found the motor was getting quiet warm!

Changed to a the kit 21t and it felt slow (at Ardent yesterday) so bought a 22 & 23t pinions and the car felt more on pace....just the driver letting the car down lol, going to get some more pinions so I can test it some more on different pinions :thumbsup:

markymark6183
28-02-2011, 08:06 PM
Hey 4 cell racer let me know what your end result is :thumbsup: