Tamiya M05 Oil dampers

[Fast Eddie]

Hi

I need some oil dampers to fit a swb tamiya mini m05.

Good condition with nice springs please:thumbsup:

[mattJT]

3 racing ones new are only 17quid now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamiya-Rover-Mini-Alloy-Oil-Shocks-NEW-3-Racing-/150557089268?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item230de6ddf4


I got these for my M05 - if you do go for these ones, recommend changing the ball cups, found them to be very brittle, however now changed them, work absolutely a ok :thumbsup:

[Fast Eddie]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3Racing-M03M-13-LB-V2-Alu-Oil-Damper-Set-M03-M04-M05-/140512300778?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item20b72f8eea

these the same thing? if so will buy them:thumbsup:

[Fast Eddie]

bought the ones you suggested, things from hong kong take ages:thumbsup:

[mattJT]

bought the ones you suggested, things from hong kong take ages:thumbsup:


Excellento :thumbsup: (as good as hk prices are, time is always a damper lol)

[DCM]

the 3Racing ones are pants, you should of bought the Tamiya ones.

[Fast Eddie]

the 3Racing ones are pants, you should of bought the Tamiya ones.

rearrange this....

horse stable bolted door :woot:

[mattJT]

the 3Racing ones are pants, you should of bought the Tamiya ones.

sides from the original ball cups that broke if you looked at them in a funny way, mine are going well now have changed them.

From what I found when I was looking, the tamiya trf dampers were literally twice the price and at that point seemed to be only available from HK.

[Fast Eddie]

price is what put me off, I only paid £55 for the kit so couldnt justify it

[DCM]

It depends on why you want the upgrade, for looks or performance, if i is performance, then you will be dissapointed in the 3Racing ones.

[Fast Eddie]

just built the car and it bounces around whilst attempting to go in a straight line
I recently upgraded the shocks on my buggy and cant believe the difference
Was hoping for an improvement in handling for under £20, do you think I will get this?

[mattJT]

I know the 3racings ain't no tamiya trf's but....I had similar problems with my mini using the standard M05 clear pro shocks - changed over to these and now don't have these problems.

Having never used the trf ones, can't vouch for difference that the extra cash gives you in performance - however, the 3racing ones have sufficed me fine on the track.

[Fast Eddie]

im sure trf's are better but the budget dictates tonight ( also bought a new speedo ) :thumbsup:

what do you mean about the ball cups and what do i replace them with?

[mattJT]

3racing shocks have a different bottom connector than the stock ones, much like the ball cups on turnbuckles - I had some spare turnbuckles in my toolbox, so took the ball cups off of them and used them on the bottom of the rear dampers.

The front ones have not busted, so haven't had to change the front ones :thumbsup:

[Fast Eddie]

3racing shocks have a different bottom connector than the stock ones, much like the ball cups on turnbuckles - I had some spare turnbuckles in my toolbox, so took the ball cups off of them and used them on the bottom of the rear dampers.

The front ones have not busted, so haven't had to change the front ones :thumbsup:

ok cheers matey, will let you know how i get on, i am a crap driver so will probably break them:cry:

[ch!3f]

if the shocks are built correctly using the same springs,oil and pistons they should perform the same so £17- £55 i know what i would be spending + i run the 3 racing shocks on my m03 and are really good value for money.

[DCM]

They will be better than the stock plastic items, but won't be as tuneable, durable or easily fixed in an accident. I have bought one set of the 3Racing ones, and 6 sets of TRF (either in kits, used or new), and the TRF's are just the best.

[mattJT]

ok cheers matey, will let you know how i get on, i am a crap driver so will probably break them:cry:

lol, me too, as I tell myself every other tuesday night tho, practice makes..................

[ch!3f]

They will be better than the stock plastic items, but won't be as tuneable, durable or easily fixed in an accident. I have bought one set of the 3Racing ones, and 6 sets of TRF (either in kits, used or new), and the TRF's are just the best.

anything is better then the stock plastic 1s why arnt they as tuneable?can change everything the same as the trf shocks,you get 3 different pistons for them can change the oil and springs what else can they do?juggle?durable never broken 1 of mine and had some really bad crashes with it and dont no about fixing as never broken mine.

[Fast Eddie]

well thanks for all your help and I hope to be running a little better soon

one more question since you have the same cars, I have way too much lock and it scrubs all the speed off in corners, any suggestions?:)

[DCM]

anything is better then the stock plastic 1s why arnt they as tuneable?can change everything the same as the trf shocks,you get 3 different pistons for them can change the oil and springs what else can they do?juggle?durable never broken 1 of mine and had some really bad crashes with it and dont no about fixing as never broken mine.

Last set I had, the pistons were to loose in the shock bores, so you ended up having to go very heavy on the shock oil to get damping, springs were also to heavy. I ended up putting Tamiya pistons in them, tamiya springs and spring cups. Then the o-rings needed changing due to them leaking, shock shafts bent to.

[mattJT]

To be fair am sure that the trf ones are better, but isn't it a bit like buying an ezrun set up over say a speed passion or novak, the ezrun does the same job, tis cheaper, but widely viewed as not being as good as the speed passion or novak etc

[ch!3f]

must have had a dodgy set then as every 1 i know who runs them never had any problems with them.fair enough you have to change the spring and oil but thats to be expected to get the car to handle haw you want it to.

[DCM]

True, just depends on what you want, I found that you get what you pay for to be fair, only thing I have replaced on the Tamiya shocks, is the o-rings due to old age.

[mattJT]

well thanks for all your help and I hope to be running a little better soon

one more question since you have the same cars, I have way too much lock and it scrubs all the speed off in corners, any suggestions?:)

erm, servo saver too long/short, or can you adjust the trim on the tx?

[Fast Eddie]

was thinking about the servo horn length so will look at that, only built it on thursday so still learning, used to driving a 2wd buggy so my thumbs are possibly some of the problem......

[bakersfields]

Just thought I would add my comment about shocks, Iv;e got and used both TRF and 3racing shocks with all sorts of oil and spring rates on my m05. Best set up I use is m03 springs, dry inside with a 2mm washer added. standard springs. If using Lipo add 40grams of weight up front and 60gramms at the back. space out the wheels 2mm. I race on carpet indoors and my m05 handles brilliantly never understeers or rolls. Just need alot more tallent. Hope this helps

[bakersfields]

Sorry forgot to answer the servo horn question, Use a short horn, lengthen the steering rod out and lock with two nuts. if you have the capability to turn down your steering rate with your transmitter, I set mine to about 65%. By the way you can run an m05 without the two top braces.

[mattJT]

space out the wheels 2mm.


ooh, how do you space out the wheels?


(won't be long till this thread gets shifted to the tamiya section me thinks - better still merged with the m03/05 thread that's already over there :thumbsup:)

[bakersfields]

Between the wheel and the black plastic hex, make sure the washer or washers are nearly the same size as the hex or if you bang the wheel while racing it will distort the wheel, RC Direct used to sell hex spacers at one time. If you can get the shallow locking wheel nuts you can space the wheels out up to 3mm whithout the nut comming off. Its not much to do this but its worth it for handling. So the m05 I have raced since they came out is just a standard kit except; blue alloy steering linkage, weights and wheel spacers. Tyres are either Yeah racing treaded (superglued edges on the front) or Yeah racing foams. Hope this all helps

[bakersfields]

Sorry mistake on my first reply. I use m03 shocks, 2mm washer on the shock shaft inside the body, adjust the rubber tubing (shorten) don't grease the rubber, standard springs. If the rear steps out too much try Tamiya 53345, I think time tunnel models sell these. Don't tighten any of the screws up too tight, Tamiya M chassis seem to work their best when they have been used for a while so everything becomes loose.