Newcastle R.C. Racers @ TyneMet

[Steven Forster]

do you get many breakages with touring cars if so what parts normally break and what parts are good for spares other than tires and wheels...........:confused:

cheers :thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

do you get many breakages with touring cars if so what parts normally break and what parts are good for spares other than tires and wheels...........:confused:

cheers :thumbsup:


tbh we dont get many breakages but good spares would be hubs, uprights and suspension arms:thumbsup:

[chrispattinson]

Can someone please clarify what motor limit for tc ? I'm looking for a setup. Is 10.5 permitted?

[cheapskate]

Can someone please clarify what motor limit for tc ? I'm looking for a setup. Is 10.5 permitted?


yes 10.5 is permitted Chris :thumbsup:

i hope it is anyway as im running one:)

[MarcF]

I wasn't aware we could use 10.5t brushless motors

[cheapskate]

I wasn't aware we could use 10.5t brushless motors

Maybe Mark(lazysurfer)can clarify this.

[Ray Mac]

:p I don't give a a "flying phart" what motor anyone uses, just come and enjoy your racing!:p:p
It is only a leisure pursuit , after all it's only a game, no-one gets hurt, hopefully.:thumbsup::woot:

[cheapskate]

:p I don't give a a "flying phart" what motor anyone uses, just come and enjoy your racing!:p:p
It is only a leisure pursuit , after all it's only a game, no-one gets hurt, hopefully.:thumbsup::woot:


lol, did you get sorted with some cells Ray or have you took the plunge and bought some lipo's

[TangerineDream]

Not that I'm fussed (as I don't race TC anymore), but we had agreed that people could use 13.5 brushless or down to 19t brushed. We thought this was fair as people with 27t brushed were struggling to keep up with those with a 13.5 brushless.

Mark do you recall?

[cheapskate]

Not that I'm fussed (as I don't race TC anymore), but we had agreed that people could use 13.5 brushless or down to 19t brushed. We thought this was fair as people with 27t brushed were struggling to keep up with those with a 13.5 brushless.

Mark do you recall?

Isnt 10.5 brushless the same 19t brushed though Paul?

[Ray Mac]

lol, did you get sorted with some cells Ray or have you took the plunge and bought some lipo's

Hi Mal! I've found some old 3300's thatmight work, no! I haven't got any lipo's (yet)
As I said before, it's only a game, the only thing that depends on it is enjoying yourself, (some timesyou have a cr*p night but that's the way it goes)
Enjoy yourselves on Monday night, I've got another week to wait 'cos I'm away on holiday.:thumbsup::thumbsup::p

[TangerineDream]

Isnt 10.5 brushless the same 19t brushed though Paul?
They were meant to be but are actually a lot quicker!! Slower is faster, honest ;)

[lazysurfer]

Not that I'm fussed (as I don't race TC anymore), but we had agreed that people could use 13.5 brushless or down to 19t brushed. We thought this was fair as people with 27t brushed were struggling to keep up with those with a 13.5 brushless.

Mark do you recall?

Er not really
We only stopped 19 brushed cos of tyre wear which isn't a problem anymore. I think it was agreed 19 was ok at TyneMet or brushless equivalent. If it's supposed to be 10.5 then I guess we'll be ok with it. Like you say only makes diff on straight. Slower is faster on the windy bits for most!

[MR ANDERSON]

Er not really
We only stopped 19 brushed cos of tyre wear which isn't a problem anymore. I think it was agreed 19 was ok at TyneMet or brushless equivalent. If it's supposed to be 10.5 then I guess we'll be ok with it. Like you say only makes diff on straight. Slower is faster on the windy bits for most!

ive got a 10.5 aswell and can only use full power for a split second on the back straight, marks right, sometimes going slower gets u round the track quicker:p

[lazysurfer]

ive got a 10.5 aswell and can only use full power for a split second on the back straight, marks right, sometimes going slower gets u round the track quicker:p

Yep. Hence phil Haines getting firsts and seconds in the A when he was still on 27 brushed!

[baD]

Yep. Hence phil Haines getting firsts and seconds in the A when he was still on 27 brushed!

Yep, one of the smoothest on the track, always has been, and he's a bit smooth on the dance floor too ! ! !

[MR ANDERSON]

Yep. Hence phil Haines getting firsts and seconds in the A when he was still on 27 brushed!

i rest my case:p

[cheapskate]

i rest my case:p
does this mean your going down to a 13.5 motor pete!!!???

[MR ANDERSON]

does this mean your going down to a 13.5 motor pete!!!???

yes i would of done but since me and u have such a good race together mal, and u have just got a 10.5 motor i quess i will just have to keep to a 10.5 motor:thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

yes i would of done but since me and u have such a good race together mal, and u have just got a 10.5 motor i quess i will just have to keep to a 10.5 motor:thumbsup:

ive still got my 13.5:p
btw ive got a shell for your matthews Mi1 which i'll bring along on monday:thumbsup:

[MR ANDERSON]

ive still got my 13.5:p
btw ive got a shell for your matthews Mi1 which i'll bring along on monday:thumbsup:

:woot:cool cheers, it must be a shell u dont like, u know what matthews driving is like, nearly as bad as mine lol:thumbsup:
im looking forward to a good nights racing tomorrow night
may the best man win, and i will settle for second place:lol:

[lazysurfer]

Well a good turn out last night, 19 comprising 13 TC’s & 6 buggies including hopefully 3 new regulars - Colin Oldroyd joining us on the track again with a buggy bought specifically for racing at TyneMet and Jim Shears also on the track for the first time at TyneMet with a new buggy. Also a completely new racer, Paul Morrison joining the buggy class for his first nights racing. Hope you all enjoyed it lads.
Well done to Ian Watson on a convincing win in the A final second leg. Also a win in the buggies for Mr Hindson subject to a stewards inquiry due to using tracktight!!
Also someone remind me next week to put one of the 10.5T brushless lads in the faster qualifying heat so we can get a better comparison of the speed difference between a 10.5T & 13.5T

[MR ANDERSON]

good to be back racing after the last 2 weeks of biting my nails and watching soaps,
well done to mal for having a flying night and making the a finals for the first time ever and leaving me in the demolition derby round:thumbsup:
i hope ray can get his battery problems sorted for next week, be good to see u there next monday ray:thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

well done to mal for having a flying night and making the a finals for the first time ever and leaving me in the demolition derby round:thumbsup:

Yep just beat you into the A final by 0.03 of a second Pete:p
Mind you it was like i was standing still racing in the A final the amount of times i was getting lapped!!:lol:

I noticed as the night was going on my back diff was getting tighter than the front:confused:, anybody got any idea's what it could be?

See you's next week,
Mal

[TangerineDream]

Yep just beat you into the A final by 0.03 of a second Pete:p
Mind you it was like i was standing still racing in the A final the amount of times i was getting lapped!!:lol:

I noticed as the night was going on my back diff was getting tighter than the front:confused:, anybody got any idea's what it could be?

See you's next week,
Mal
Must be time for you to buy a Tamiya Mal :)

Never heard of that one, they sometimes slacken off, unless its full of muck?!

[lazysurfer]

Yep just beat you into the A final by 0.03 of a second Pete:p
Mind you it was like i was standing still racing in the A final the amount of times i was getting lapped!!:lol:

I noticed as the night was going on my back diff was getting tighter than the front:confused:, anybody got any idea's what it could be?

See you's next week,
Mal
Guess this proves that power isn't that useable on the floor and slower is likely to be smoother and therefore faster. Did you seem particularly faster on the straight than us 13.5s or did anyone notice if Mal seemed to have DRS & Kers on the straight?
Just interested for the 10.5/13.5 debate!

[cheapskate]

its a little faster on the straight Mark but thats the only place it can used, im pretty much on half throttle the rest of the track, might pop the 13.5 back in for next week.
Paul the Tamiyas tempting but the only thing putting me off is the availability of spares,
looks like ANOTHER strip and rebuild on a diff:thumbdown:

[FastWheels]

Ray needs to upgrade to some lipos, remember it aint just a game!!.

& you can't take it with you!!

[lazysurfer]

Well an “interesting” nights racing last night with a problem we’ve never had before….
20 racers booked in (although only 19 made it to the track) has never been an issue before as there’s never been an even split in the classes but last night we hit 10 buggies for the first time leaving a dilemma for the split.
1 - split both classes into 2 heats - everyone gets one less race AND we have to fit ANOTHER 5 min race into the time available
2 - run the usual format and split only one class running a 10 car heat in the other.
Anyway the second option was taken with the buggies in a 10 car heat and while the track should be big enough for 10 racers no problem, with the differing ability range seemed a bit chaotic.
In order to make it a bit fairer the finals were split the other way with 2 buggy finals and all the TC’s in together.
Thoughts on how we deal with this in the future appreciated - at some point it will happen again - do we all loose a race and split both classes or alternate the split between TC’s and buggies.
Although the way numbers are going I think at some point there’ll be no choice but to run 4 heats.
Anyway a good win in the buggies for Greg Williams on his first visit to the club - hope to see you back Greg although the buggy lads may not ;-)
And a well driven win for Mel in the second leg of the TC final with Peter Anderson giving me a hard time for second place.
Amy thoughts on the use of tracktight would be welcome too - is it just me or is the use of track tight making it more slippery for the rest of us?
Nice to have Jason back too after attempting to cremate himself by lighting a barbecue with nitro fuel - nice idea Jason ;-)
See you all next week
Oh BTW Chris Haves is selling up so any of you looking for stuff - Ray - here’s a link to what’s for grabs or email him direct on salmonhaves@hotmail.com

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80281 (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80281)

[MR ANDERSON]

Well an “interesting” nights racing last night with a problem we’ve never had before….
20 racers booked in (although only 19 made it to the track) has never been an issue before as there’s never been an even split in the classes but last night we hit 10 buggies for the first time leaving a dilemma for the split.
1 - split both classes into 2 heats - everyone gets one less race AND we have to fit ANOTHER 5 min race into the time available
2 - run the usual format and split only one class running a 10 car heat in the other.
Anyway the second option was taken with the buggies in a 10 car heat and while the track should be big enough for 10 racers no problem, with the differing ability range seemed a bit chaotic.
In order to make it a bit fairer the finals were split the other way with 2 buggy finals and all the TC’s in together.
Thoughts on how we deal with this in the future appreciated - at some point it will happen again - do we all loose a race and split both classes or alternate the split between TC’s and buggies.
Although the way numbers are going I think at some point there’ll be no choice but to run 4 heats.
Anyway a good win in the buggies for Greg Williams on his first visit to the club - hope to see you back Greg although the buggy lads may not ;-)
And a well driven win for Mel in the second leg of the TC final with Peter Anderson giving me a hard time for second place.
Amy thoughts on the use of tracktight would be welcome too - is it just me or is the use of track tight making it more slippery for the rest of us?
Nice to have Jason back too after attempting to cremate himself by lighting a barbecue with nitro fuel - nice idea Jason ;-)
See you all next week
Oh BTW Chris Haves is selling up so any of you looking for stuff - Ray - here’s a link to what’s for grabs or email him direct on salmonhaves@hotmail.com

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80281 (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80281)

good to see so many buggies racing last night, kept all the marshalls busy that was for sure, ive never been so busy lol, was a good tc final aswell, i tried my best to keep on your tail mark but had no chance of overtaking u, i was just glad u didnt lap me lol, hope mal gets his rear diff sorted out for next week, i knew there was something wrong when i kept lapping u, especially as u trounced me last week matey, well take care all and me and matthew will see u all next monday:thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

Good to see another good turn out last night,
Mark if the numbers stay like this i think there will no other choice but to split the classes into two heats- buggies was mental last night:woot:

[lazysurfer]

Good to see another good turn out last night,
Mark if the numbers stay like this i think there will no other choice but to split the classes into two heats- buggies was mental last night:woot:
Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.

[Steven Forster]

Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.


I thought it was a really good turn out for the buggies and a good laugh at times albeit a bit chaotic when we crashed and as said the ability of the drivers (me) arnt as good as others and sometimes found myself getting in the way of faster drivers and having to pull over when i could.............wont be back till the 26th (stupid shifts)

[beasty boys motorsport]

I thought it was a really good turn out for the buggies and a good laugh at times albeit a bit chaotic when we crashed and as said the ability of the drivers (me) arnt as good as others and sometimes found myself getting in the way of faster drivers and having to pull over when i could.............wont be back till the 26th (stupid shifts)

dont worry steve, im back on monday....so i'll hold everyone up in your absense:lol: one day i might get quick enough to complete 6 laps in a heat:thumbsup:

[TangerineDream]

Depends how many we get Mal - like I say the track is easily big enough for 10 in a heat, it's the differeing abilities which pose the issue. Paul has suggested maybe a mixed class heat for the newer drivers which would allow 3 heats in the same situation with even numbers and is probably worth a go.
We've actually run a mixed race once before and over a lap the difference between a TC and buggy in the hands of evenly matched drivers is very little if at all. Buggies blast the straight while TC's are more nimble in the corners.
I think its worth trying this in the first instance if we need to, if it doesnt work we can then look to run 4 heats, would be a shame to loose a round if we dont need to, one option to get 5 rounds of 4 heats would be to reduce the gap between races but use alternate marshalling, i.e. you will always be free the race after and before your own which should make things less hectic as both marshalls and drivers should in theory have time to be ready

[Steven Forster]

dont worry steve, im back on monday....so i'll hold everyone up in your absense:lol: one day i might get quick enough to complete 6 laps in a heat:thumbsup:

nice one paul...............:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[TangerineDream]

I think its worth trying this in the first instance if we need to, if it doesnt work we can then look to run 4 heats, would be a shame to loose a round if we dont need to, one option to get 5 rounds of 4 heats would be to reduce the gap between races but use alternate marshalling, i.e. you will always be free the race after and before your own which should make things less hectic as both marshalls and drivers should in theory have time to be ready
If we do the maths, and have 4 heats of 5 mins with 1 min gap per heat thats 24mins per round, which is the same as 3 heats of 5 mins and a 3 min gap per heat. Piece of p1ss!!

[R5 racer]

Returning from the USA next week, where about is this track? Postal addy would be good.
Thanks

Gentlemen

Well we had our first race meet at the new venue last night and it went very well!
4 of us there for doors opening at 7 with another five arriving within minutes enabled us to have the track set up by 7;30 with the first heat on the line at 7:40.
11 of us in total racing last night with a few notable absences - where were the rest of you – but on the plus side, 2 old members turned up to see what was going on and have promised to come back to race (see you next week Colin & Paul) Also a young lad who has a car and his dad who had a play with Johns old car and who seem keen to come back.

Strangely we were short of buggies for the first time in a long while, ending up running two TC heats with Mr Hindson opting to run his TC rather than buggy. He did however revert to the buggy by round 3 as he wasn’t winning resulting in a mixed heat and very good close mixed racing. Even them he had to lengthen the straight on which he had the speed advantage in order to eventually win! (any more cheating measures you could come up with for next week will NOT be welcome!)
We WILL be back to running buggy heats next week I imagine – with jumps if that’s what is preferred.

The floor was clean with a fair amount of grip and more importantly was very predictable enabling nice controlled 4 wheel drifting without nasty surprises mid corner – so who is going to be the first to try rally blocks?

The podium issue seems to have resolved it’s self with the gym’s benches being arranged to certainly provide an adequate platform although not perfect.

Last final finished by 9:30 and we were out of the hall by 9:50 so all in all a very good first nights racing there – now lets get the numbers up, we need 15 racers to cover the cost of the hall at £5 each per meet!

Ross & Dytham take note of the start & finish times for RACING – we’d rather you ducked set up or clear up than ducking racing altogether!

Gripes, suggestions and new racers are very welcome!

Hope to see more of you there next week

Mark

[FastWheels]

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Seems to be an obsession to run as many rounds as possible without regard to addressing the Leisure aspect but rather looking to an ever increasing hectic schedule as an objective, this is supposed to be enjoyable hobby where some kind of social interaction adds another dimension as against trying to emulate a chaotic sweat shop mentality.

The club may become a victim of its own success with continual badgering to increase membership to cover costs then expecting to get that proverbial quart into a pint pot, this strategy may well alienate some members especially those wishing to enjoy the night rather than be obsessed with productivity.

The not so serious bit

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds, & time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

Back to the serious bit

Alternate marshalling - it seems a struggle now to get the marshalls out and well placed on the track with a system everyone understands never mind introducing a seemingly more complicated alternative, while everyone would like a longer night with more rounds there needs to be a balance between what may be theoretically possible and what may be more comfortably achievable.

With the track being close to the The podium it's often difficult to see past other drivers as everyone leans out to gain a view of their car.
The design with the straight being up against the wall prevents any marshalls taking up position over the full length of the hall meaning a 20yard dash at times to marshall, it would be advantageous to reasses this aspect of the design (Track design & Build = Very Good Effort & Execution Bravo GuyZ).
Right lets get charging for next week!!

[FastWheels]

Returning from the USA next week, where about is this track? Postal addy would be good.
Thanks

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=tynemet+college&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=tynemet+college&hnear=0x487e65525287ead7:0x594570c53db4f5c6,Gatesh ead&cid=0,0,3372800662329034189&ei=7C9xTvPqDcWr8QOEiM2KCg&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CAQQ_BI

looking at the TyneMet location shown it's the White Building on the lower right

Tyne Metropolitan College


Battle Hill Drive
Wallsend
NE28 9NL



Follow the line of ST Focuses
hope this helps

[Ray Mac]

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Seems to be an obsession to run as many rounds as possible without regard to addressing the Leisure aspect but rather looking to an ever increasing hectic schedule as an objective, this is supposed to be enjoyable hobby where some kind of social interaction adds another dimension as against trying to emulate a chaotic sweat shop mentality.

The club may become a victim of its own success with continual badgering to increase membership to cover costs then expecting to get that proverbial quart into a pint pot, this strategy may well alienate some members especially those wishing to enjoy the night rather than be obsessed with productivity.

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

Alternate marshalling - it seems a struggle now to get the marshalls out and well placed on the track with a system everyone understands never mind introducing a seemingly more complicated alternative, while everyone would like a longer night with more rounds there needs to be a balance between what may be theoretically possible and what may be more comfortably achievable.

With the track being close to the The podium it's often difficult to see past other drivers as everyone leans out to gain a view of their car.
The design with the straight being up against the wall prevents any marshalls taking up position over the full length of the hall meaning a 20yard dash at times to marshall, it would be advantageous to reasses this aspect of the design (Track design & Build = Very Good Effort & Execution Bravo GuyZ).
Right lets get charging for next week!!


Now you know what we're all up against. It IS a game Jim.
Welcome to enjoyable aggro.

The OLD PHART.

[baD]

A probable no to mixed heats for me.

Restricting membership and enforcing a qualifying time will eliminate those problematic slow racers thus allowing time for 10 rounds time between heats for chip butties, those eliminated during qualifying can then be used to marshall,

solved!!

I read the above post with considerable interest, until I came to the bit quoted here and then couldn't decide if the whole post was just taking the piss! Eliminate the slow racers? What the h*** is that all about.

The hectic nature of racing at TM is one of the reasons I haven't been back, hardly time to alter the spring/ride height between races never mind actually fix something or change the tyres/wheels. (the other main reason is Monday is not a good day for me, but that's my problem, no one else's).
How anyone could race here themselves AND coach a kid to race is beyond me.

With the increased attendance, increased income, is it possible to extend the evening (at either end) without going over budget, to race longer and enjoy the 'leisure' activity a little more.?

[baD]

It IS a game Jim.

The OLD PHART.

No - it's life Jim, but not as we know it

[FastWheels]

I read the above post with considerable interest, until I came to the bit quoted here and then couldn't decide if the whole post was just taking the piss! Eliminate the slow racers? What the h*** is that all about.


Yeah that was a light hearted cynical throwaway. :thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

[LEFT]


Now you know what we're all up against. It IS a game Jim.
Welcome to enjoyable aggro.

The OLD PHART.

Just reporting as is no aggro just a penchant for the truth....

It is out there somewhere (so I'm told)

Must have been a good post got the oldun awake :D

Less of your LIPo ;)

[TangerineDream]

Simply offering some suggested solutions to the issue guys, we can't get into the hall earlier due to the zumba and can't leave later as the centre closes, we've already confirmed that nobody wants to loose a round of racing...... Would be helpful to the guys setting the meeting up to have a plan in place that the majority agrees with should we need it.........

[Ray Mac]

:pJim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.:p:p:woot:

[baD]

Yeah that was a light hearted cynical throwaway. :thumbsup:
cheers for that clarification - I'll always try to make sure I don't read something into posts that isn't there :)

[cheapskate]

Got to be honest i would rather drop a heat then run a mixed class.
Maybe we could run the same track layout for a set number of weeks then change it, then those that do actually turn up on time can set the track up in plenty time and know what they are doing,
maybe we could even fit extra heats in if everybody helped put the track away!!

Mal

[FastWheels]

:pJim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.:p:p:woot:

First the Pleasure then the Pain :D

[lazysurfer]

Wow the debate on numbers of rounds and heats has certainly woken you lot up. Sorry to hear the pace of the night is the reason you haven't been back Bill. The club is run for everyone so issues such as this are open to votes but last time the frantic pace was mentioned the only ones who responded were against loosing a round,it would be easier for me but I, like those who expressed a view think that if we make the effort to put the track out and away, turn up and pay to race we may as well get in as much racing as possible. As for time to relax & chat if I can fit socialising in I'm sure the rest of you can and I can honestly say I've NEVER considered racing relaxing, for that there's the old tradition of the pub afterwards which could be ressurected?
If the club as a whole wants to drop a round then fine but if people want to get in as many races as possible I think we owe it to them to do that, If anyone wants to sit out a round there's nothing stopping them.
As for preferring to drop a round than run a mixed heat I think it would be an idea to have tried before writing it off. I ve raced mixed heats with Buckle before and it was VERY close!
Were running 3 mins between heats at the moment so 4 rounds of 4 heats would need to reduce to 2 mins between rather than 1 which would be too tight. Or as mentioned, more people to set out the track to start earlier :-)
As I mentioned the club as a whole must decide but remember, slow the pace AND have to fit in 4 rounds and we go from 5 races per night to 3 and I'm sure nobody wants to loose 2 races!

[lazysurfer]

Or maybe a mixed heat of the fast drivers????
Only going to be needed when we have 10 or more in a class.
If we do need 4 heats I think dropping a round would probably be the way to go tho. Compromise - that's what its all about - will give us both hectic and relaxing noghts depending on how many turn up. Well will give you lot relaxing nights with 4 heats anyway,not me! ;-)

[TangerineDream]

Question for buggies, did people prefer having some jumps / obstacles out??
I thought the racing was still extremely close (Buckle knows what I'm on about :D) and it made things a bit more interesting.

Also if anyone has a decent camera, maybe we could get some updated pics / video links on here for the people who are showing interest.

Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

[TangerineDream]

:pJim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.:p:p:woot:
Old Raymondo, did you manage to get sorted with lipos and a charger?

[FastWheels]

Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

Pity we couldn't have the podium facing down the length of the hall rather than across it as that would give a clearer view of the track, also a more elaborate and higher podium would dramatically improve the perspective.

But to address your point, yes i think it would be worth trying the straight at the Rostrum side. :)

[MarcF]

Just my opinion but I think that will be worse having the fastest part of the track where it's harder to see and next to your feet...it's only the other week where i have found it a bit awkward (where we had a straight from bottom corner to the end of rostrum) but it just depends on the layout

[Ray Mac]

Old Raymondo, did you manage to get sorted with lipos and a charger?


Thanks for asking Paul, well! things are looking very promising at the moment. After over 30years of ni-cads and their equivalent, it's some change to li-pos and balance chargers. Let's see if this change is as good as a rest.:confused::confused: :eh?:

[lazysurfer]

we could try the opposite end to the pits although being a big hall it may be a bit too far. Agree with Marc that the straight next topodium is ten times worse. just pulling the "near" corners further into the centre helps or just take a tight line and don't run as wide into the corner of the hall where you cant see!

[Ray Mac]

Over the time I've been "racing", the type of tracks that seem cause the least bother, are quite open, and have the technical part infront of the "rostrum". The less technical track and more open, the less the marshalls should be needed, and "enjoyed" more. What do you think! That is only my oppinion, make of it what you will. :confused::eh?:

[FastWheels]

the Wisdom of Solomon still beats in your breast Ray. :thumbsup:

[MR ANDERSON]

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[MR ANDERSON]

Question for buggies, did people prefer having some jumps / obstacles out??
I thought the racing was still extremely close (Buckle knows what I'm on about :D) and it made things a bit more interesting.

Also if anyone has a decent camera, maybe we could get some updated pics / video links on here for the people who are showing interest.

Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

heres a link to some video footage incase u missed it, taken on 27-06-2011 by my brother robert anderson, enjoy:thumbsup:

http://youtu.be/wmDlj3yOQ4Q (http://youtu.be/wmDlj3yOQ4Q)

[hazzelarator]

I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a 'fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D

[Ray Mac]

OK Jim! you've just got to take the proverbial haven't you!!

[lazysurfer]

I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D
Bout time you got yourself back Hazz! Not sure fining people is a good idea mind although it is frustrating how many people arrive when the tracks half built by the same few earlybirds every week

[Steven Forster]

I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a 'fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D

Bout time you got yourself back Hazz! Not sure fining people is a good idea mind although it is frustrating how many people arrive when the tracks half built by the same few earlybirds every week


From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

[cheapskate]

From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

Helping put the track out and away is part and parcel of being a member of the club though Dexter, its the same few putting the track out and away every week, and it the same faces coming in later and standing talking instead of helping set the track up( charging for not helping with the track isnt a good idea imo).

Mr Anderson ive sent you a pm:thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

Don't worry I have no intention of fining anyone Dex. Always said anyone with a valid reason to miss either set up or clear up - I'd rather ther skip it than not race at all :-)

[FastWheels]

Altruism is the Ethos that drives TyneMet! :thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

Don't worry I have no intention of fining anyone Dex. Always said anyone with a valid reason to miss either set up or clear up - I'd rather ther skip it than not race at all :-)


I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............:blush:

[cheapskate]

I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............:blush:

thats a hell of alot more than some do dexter, didnt realise you lived so far away mate

[MR ANDERSON]

I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............:blush:

im the same, i havnt got a clue how to set the track up and feel i get in the way, once the layout is set up i try to help and tape the track together and matthew is only 7 but i send him out to collect old tape from the track so matt does his bit, especially afterward hes a great little helper by pulling the track over and bringing tyres in so i hope its ok when we turn up a bit late as we try to make up for it the rest of the night:thumbsup:

[hazzelarator]

Lol I was just joking about 'fining people' :thumbsup: See you all later

[cheapskate]

A good nights racing tonight. not as hectic as last week..... we even had a break before the finals:eh?:
Good to have Ray back racing and well done to Peter coming 2nd and 3rd in the A finals:thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

were there many buggies racing tonight ??? couldnt make it tonight as working late shift :cry::thumbdown:

[cheapskate]

were there many buggies racing tonight ??? couldnt make it tonight as working late shift :cry::thumbdown:

think there was only 4

[MR ANDERSON]

A good nights racing tonight. not as hectic as last week..... we even had a break before the finals:eh?:
Good to have Ray back racing and well done to Peter coming 2nd and 3rd in the A finals:thumbsup:

thank you thank you, does that mean the 10.5 is going back in lol,
yes good to see ray back with his kangaroo bateries (they kept jumping out lol ) was very enjoyable being in the A finals, hope i can make it in again next week.

[lazysurfer]

Well lads a bit quieter last night with only 14 racing - short of buggies down to a weekend meeting I guess.
Anyway it let us run 3 heats of no more than 5 and we even got a 10 min break before the finals to keep those of you who find the pace stressful happy.
Hopefully a few more next week - by which time I need to do some serious rebuilding of my car!!!!
With regard to track set up I find it works best if one person takes charge opf the layout and loosely throws the track into shape for others to tape, it does get confusing with a few all trying to design the track.

[beasty boys motorsport]

really enjoyed myself last night, managed 6 laps in first heat, then 9 in the second and 9 in the third:thumbsup:...in the final 10:thumbsup::thumbsup: so i am improving, then on the last heat (reverse grid) my car kept spinning left, thats because i broke the left front drive shaft...i thought it was just my driving:p

[Steven Forster]

really enjoyed myself last night, managed 6 laps in first heat, then 9 in the second and 9 in the third:thumbsup:...in the final 10:thumbsup::thumbsup: so i am improving, then on the last heat (reverse grid) my car kept spinning left, thats because i broke the left front drive shaft...i thought it was just my driving:p


Glad to see your getting better and enjoying it............did you get any wheels and tyres sorted out to fit ???

:thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

Glad to see your getting better and enjoying it............did you get any wheels and tyres sorted out to fit ???

:thumbsup:

oh yes ive got a full selection of schumacher yellows:thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

oh yes ive got a full selection of schumacher yellows:thumbsup:

gonna give these yellow full spikes ago on monday see what they are like........

[beasty boys motorsport]

i ran on mini spikes last night as my full spikes are a bit hard, cant wait to get the b44 up and running now......but then again ive just bought another b44 roller with extra bodies and wings and spares:o which one to race and which one to use a spares:lol:

[cheapskate]

thank you thank you, does that mean the 10.5 is going back in lol,
yes good to see ray back with his kangaroo bateries (they kept jumping out lol ) was very enjoyable being in the A finals, hope i can make it in again next week.

no mate going to keep the 13.5 in for now and try tweaking the setup of the car..... plus ill get more than 3 weeks out of a set of tyres!!!!!

[lazysurfer]

no mate going to keep the 13.5 in for now and try tweaking the setup of the car..... plus ill get more than 3 weeks out of a set of tyres!!!!!

3 weeks from a set of tyres - you are kidding right? I managed 9 at one point albeit in the summer when the track surface was really warm

[cheapskate]

3 weeks from a set of tyres - you are kidding right? I managed 9 at one point albeit in the summer when the track surface was really warm

Nope 3 weeks Mark:thumbdown:,
Spoke to Chris Clark on monday and he give me some help with my setup which helped loads- 10.5 motors who needs em!!:lol:

[lazysurfer]

Well 17 racing last night with 9TC’s & 8 buggies.
1 new face on the track in Ellis Carr driving not too bad for his first time - making an effort to keep out of the way of the faster buggy lads - hopefully we’ll see him back again.
Just a reminder on the subject of being lapped guys - a few comments about the buggy heat last night as it was a bit busy with 8 racing.
The numbers weren’t the problem, people being lapped and trying to race the leaders was the problem. If you’re being lapped let the lead cars through by running wide on a corner, this costs both cars the least time. Please don’t try to race cars lapping you or try to re-pass them on the straight or at the next corner - especially in the buggy class where getting it wrong is far more likely to result in breaking something.

Anyway, on a positive note, good turn out again with equal nimbers in classes and I’m expecting numbers to increase with the dark nights and bad weather coming so it’s likely at this rate we’ll be back to racing 4 heats for the first time since I can’t remember.

See you all next Monday

[FastWheels]

Well 17 racing last night with 9TC’s & 8 buggies.
1 new face on the track in Ellis Carr driving not too bad for his first time - making an effort to keep out of the way of the faster buggy lads - hopefully we’ll see him back again.

Also a mention that his Pit Crew Manager was a very enthusiastic and capable marshall :thumbsup:(take note some others)

Just a reminder on the subject of being lapped guys - a few comments about the buggy heat last night as it was a bit busy with 8 racing.
The numbers weren’t the problem, people being lapped and trying to race the leaders was the problem. If you’re being lapped let the lead cars through by running wide on a corner, this costs both cars the least time. Please don’t try to race cars lapping you or try to re-pass them on the straight or at the next corner - especially in the buggy class where getting it wrong is far more likely to result in breaking something.

But when you're racing you have to try to regain the advantage you have conceded to the extent your skill level will allow you to.;)

I noted these problems weren't witnessed in the TC as despite having only one more car there was 2 heats, allowing a split on skill differential.;)
Not having this split as seen in the buggy heat leads to damaged cars, frustration, and disenchantment for all the drivers.:cry:


At the same time the more experienced drivers need to realise there is equal right for the novice to enjoy their racing without constantly expecting to have a rear end shunt, have to constantly 'move over' or hear a grumble voiced when a mistake is made (after all where is the club without those new or novice drivers - and they have paid their money too!) so to encourage the novices, and why should the burden for the envisaged problem be placed on the shoulders of the least experienced drivers, maybe the most experienced drivers should be a little more forgiving and humble, or we could split the heat allowing the 'Elite'drivers an unrestricted Hot Race, that would put me in with the novices and I'm happy with that, the big stumbling point here would be the obsession with "loosing a round", now contrary to popular opinion it's not my platform to canvass reduce the number of races we can have, to the contrary I wish the night was longer but to balance the preference the TCs seem to have regarding the 'Skills' split with 2 heats and enhance the 'Experience' for those in the Buggy arena it would be advantageous to the buggy driver to have this heat/skill split

Another option to keep the 5 rounds would be to have the Buggy heat split and have 1 TC heat, now there's an option to try allowing both classes that wider enhanced experience.:thumbsup:

but keeping in mind

“The best laid schemes o' mice and men Gang aft a-gley; And leave us naught but grief and pain For promised joy”



Anyway, on a positive note, good turn out again with equal nimbers in classes and I’m expecting numbers to increase with the dark nights and bad weather coming so it’s likely at this rate we’ll be back to racing 4 heats for the first time since I can’t remember.
See you all next Monday

One small point a number of people have commented on is the reverse grid, this puts the slowest drivers to the fore which then in turn tends to create mayhem at the first corner, personally I would prefer to start from my grid position this would then tend to ease the mayhem.

Good effort in keeping the club running smoothly Guys!!:thumbsup:

[Ray Mac]

Jim's suggestion of alternating weeks for buggies and tc's splitting seems to be a decent option. It wouldn't hurt to try it for a couple of weeks or more. What does the rest of the gang think??:eh?::confused:

[beasty boys motorsport]

i agree with everything fastwheels has said:thumbsup: if theres enough buggy drivers split the heats into ability, that way it would be benificial to people like me who are consentrating more on trying to make the thing go around the track rather that actually race, hopefully one day i will be quick enough to race with the elite:cry:, even if its the novices only who lose a race due to time im not bothered, i'd rather have 4 heats where i can hopefully improve my driving skills than have 5 heats where im having to watch out for faster drivers and move out there way incase i hit them, if im doing that i'll never improve, last monday we had 4 buggies and my driving was a lot better, this week with 8 my driving was rubbish as i was trying to get out of peoples way, but thats only my point of view:D

[Mike West]

I hope the newer drivers aren't taken this the wrong way. The racing standard is not the issue, however a couple of occasions last night it was hard work for all too let through or get past each other. Maybe the track layout was too blame as previous weeks i don't think it has been as tough.

If we had another couple of drivers there it would have solved this, as we would have had split the heat. However everybody looses time when you tangle up. The easiest way around this is to be a little more patient passing and the lapped car getting back on the throttle (note to all not just new members).

What we need is a few more existing members turning up a little more often (i know i need to make more effort as well) an a couple of new faces in the buggy heat and not just touring cars.

Maybe an idea for the more experienced drivers to try and help the newer drivers with a few tips as long as they promise in a couple of months time not to beat us.

[hazzelarator]

How about whichever group has more cars gets the split? Seems fair to me, as you said there was only 1 car difference last night so wont be long till the split is the other way?

Personally I enjoy the reverse grids as if you have had a stinking qualifier then your still not out of the running and it also makes it a good action packed final. Maybe if you don't want to start pole then you can always opt to start at the back?

I know when I stopped racing at the start of summer there was talk of creating a 'set' of tracks? Did anyone design a few different layouts of track? I'l make some if not? What about putting two ppl in charge of track builds and they change every 2nd week? Last night took ages to get under way with everyone adding different bits to the track in different places and the result was alot of hairpins and short straights. Perhaps some time could be saved here and on pack up?

Just my two penneth :woot:

[lazysurfer]

Agree with most of the posts about heats. If there's more buggys than TC then the buggys would be split. If both classes reach 10 both will be split. I don't like running heats of 4 or less as once someone drops out there's not really much of a race left and you can spend 5 mins driving round without passing or being passed. Gonna have to have 4 heats soon anyway I reckon with increasing buggy numbers. And no it's generally not the novice drivers who are difficult to lap more the mid abilities! Maybe when the numbers are like last night split one class for heats and the other for finals? Also maybe only do reverse grid for split finals where ability will be more evenly matched? Generally it seems that most don't want to drop a round until numbers dictate we have to run 4 heats tho which I'm working on max 9 cars before splitting to 2 5s when we get 10. Until there's 10 of each we split the busiest class so long as we have min 4 max 9 in a heat. For discussion obviously but that's my suggestion

[angieamyabbie]

i dont know what everyone else thinks but would it be possible to go to a staggered start as their always seems to be a pile up on the first corner
which is easily avoided by staggering the start
anybody else have views on this topic

[gar]

i dont know what everyone else thinks but would it be possible to go to a staggered start as their always seems to be a pile up on the first corner
which is easily avoided by staggering the start
anybody else have views on this topic

Well it work,s well at the Barley Mow it,s a :thumbsup: from me

Gary:thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

Jim's suggestion of alternating weeks for buggies and tc's splitting seems to be a decent option. It wouldn't hurt to try it for a couple of weeks or more. What does the rest of the gang think??:eh?::confused:


Good to see a non partisan egalitarian view, Bravo Ray Mac :thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

running five races for 3 heats is pretty hectic.

I knew I wasn't alone :D

[FastWheels]

no matter what your experience - heats are sorted on driving ability so you'll always have someone of a similar pace to race against.

Hey Mark have you been in politics (car sales) :D;):woot:

[FastWheels]

i dont know what everyone else thinks but would it be possible to go to a staggered start as their always seems to be a pile up on the first corner
which is easily avoided by staggering the start
anybody else have views on this topic

Definitely worth a try to give a clean getaway and let some drivers settle a little before crashing! :thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

How about whichever group has more cars gets the split? Seems fair to me, as you said there was only 1 car difference last night so wont be long till the split is the other way?

Only historically the TCs have constant swell of numbers greater than the Buggies so following on with the statistics they would only have the split on a rare occasion .

Personally I enjoy the reverse grids as if you have had a stinking qualifier then your still not out of the running and it also makes it a good action packed final. Maybe if you don't want to start pole then you can always opt to start at the back?

It's always an incentive to strive for improvement and get that reward of a better start in order to try to achieve pole, but each to their preference.

I know when I stopped racing at the start of summer there was talk of creating a 'set' of tracks? Did anyone design a few different layouts of track? I'l make some if not? What about putting two ppl in charge of track builds and they change every 2nd week? Last night took ages to get under way with everyone adding different bits to the track in different places and the result was alot of hairpins and short straights. Perhaps some time could be saved here and on pack up?

This is a good idea for the track design to be printed to scale on A3 or A2 paper, but may be better extending the 2 week build to 4 week rotation, that way a little more familiarity of build skill should shave some time from the build, the plans would give further direction to those without the vision of smart design (me for 1) We run this system at the Barley Mow and it has proved successful over quite some time now, but a collective build with everyone who is interested adding their slant motivates the individual to involvement.

Just my two penneth :woot:[/QUOTE]

[FastWheels]

I hope the newer drivers aren't taken this the wrong way.

We haven't Mike :D

The racing standard is not the issue, however a couple of occasions last night it was hard work for all too let through or get past each other. Maybe the track layout was too blame as previous weeks i don't think it has been as tough.

I think the diverse range of skills was the major element in the Buggy heat the split was 3 fast - 3 mid range - 2 new novices, the reason this mix causes problems is the fast guys want to compete at full blast (naturally) then the mid range drivers with slightly less talent/skill also blasting through they then tangle with the novices who through lack of experience drive erratically, of course this leads to unusual manoeuvres (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/manoeuvres) then breakages occur, those new to the sport feel a sense of overwhelming frustration as they are constantly harrased by a continual stream of fast cars launching past and numerous collisions/nudges occurring. Never had a problem with the track (driving skills maybe, but track no)

If we had another couple of drivers there it would have solved this, as we would have had split the heat. However everybody looses time when you tangle up. The easiest way around this is to be a little more patient passing and the lapped car getting back on the throttle (note to all not just new members).

I don't see any reason why there has to be a certain number before a heat split in implemented, last night may have been better as a 6 & 2 for the buggies as it would have allowed young Ellis & beasty Boys Motorsport the opportunity to drive a clear track and have a flowing race rather than the stuttered event they had to face and give rise to improving their basic skills

What we need is a few more existing members turning up a little more often (i know i need to make more effort as well) an a couple of new faces in the buggy heat and not just touring cars.

Maybe an idea for the more experienced drivers to try and help the newer drivers with a few tips as long as they promise in a couple of months time not to beat us.:thumbsup:

Good sentiment Mike but the tight schedule almost precludes anyone having the time to give much instruction.

Never mind I'm looking forward to next weeks enjoyment already :)

[FastWheels]

Agree with most of the posts about heats.


That's great Marc glad you support the split buggy heat

If there's more buggys than TC then the buggys would be split.


Following the trend for participant numbers the buggies are way down the pecking order


If both classes reach 10 both will be split.


Even when the Tcs post less than 10 drivers - eg this week, they tend to get split! it's a Win Win


I don't like running heats of 4 or less as once someone drops out there's not really much of a race left and you can spend 5 mins driving round without passing or being passed.


Applying this logic it's not worth considering a split as there's always a chance of someone dropping out, better to have much larger heats then when a retirement occurs it's hardly noticed
it's like saying lets stay in the shelter in case they drop a bomb

Gonna have to have 4 heats soon anyway I reckon with increasing buggy numbers.


There's a real possibility of this as just recently there have been 5 new buggies Ellis, Paul, Colin, Gary, and myself, had it not been for the newbies then there may have been a heat of 2


And no it's generally not the novice drivers who are difficult to lap more the mid abilities!


But of course the mid-abilities are going to be more difficult to lap but they can usually move safely out of the way of someone lapping, at the same time they aren't just there to make the numbers up and provide a foil for the fast lads
What was noticeable was the occasional stopping for whatever reason on the straight, as one time there was a collision which resulted in car damage

Maybe when the numbers are like last night split one class for heats and the other for finals? Also maybe only do reverse grid for split finals where ability will be more evenly matched?


Maybe as Colin suggests a staggered start would generally give a cleaner getaway and you may not need to pass anyone and still win! but yes as you say Mark a reverse grid in the finals would have less impact, but I still can't see the reason for it personally.

Generally it seems that most don't want to drop a round until numbers dictate we have to run 4 heats tho which I'm working on max 9 cars before splitting to 2 5s when we get 10.


Nobody really wants to reduce the number of races for the sake of it, it's like saying I can only find 1 shoe so lets amputate my other leg! but on Mon there was 2 less cars than required for a heat split and partial mayhem and damage occurred, it's not the Numbers it's the varied driving ability in the same heat.
The biggest problem seems to be experienced by the newest novice drivers, the very people who a club would wish to attract to build for the future are having the hardest time and as a result this reduces the enjoyment they can have, and after all they have paid lots out on a new venture and are paying their weekly fees but seem to get lost in translation

Until there's 10 of each we split the busiest class so long as we have min 4 max 9 in a heat.


Unless the trend of comparable numbers reverses then the buggies are going to be marginalised with regard to heat split and the status quo will remain - comfortable easily managed TC heats - crowded difficult buggy heats

Come on Buggies I know your'e out there

If both classes post less than 9 drivers why not just have 2 heats - more rounds gained more time between for adjustments/repairs track realignment lots of marshalls for all races

For discussion obviously but that's my suggestion

:thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

Just wondered is there anyone who could lash up a basic website so maybe we could get the weekly results lap times etc uploaded with an archive to check as well, this may be of more interest when/if we move to planned named track layout as it should give some reference as to any laptime improvements allowing you to chart progress/regression.

[FastWheels]

Just remembered Mike that loud bang followed by my rather sorrowful looking car being carried on a stretcher caused by be forced off the track by the cavalier driving of one Mr Hindson, or wait a minute the Alzheimers is fading it when I moved over to allow a superior driver (PH) to overtake and misjudged my move colliding with the track overlap wiping a wishbone & shock top out - now repaired & ready for action. :wub:confused::thumbsup:

[baD]

I'm sure someone above said , just my two penneth, but I must have read at least 18/- & 6d (92.5p if you're a youngster ;) ) - all good stuff.

Wish I could have better Mondays so I could join in :thumbsup:
As suggestion, with no bias or favouritism - why not just the old choose a max per heat per class and let the software do the rest.
Set the same max for the next 4 Mondays and see how that pans out. Should be easier for Race Control as well.
If anyone bawls about being in the lower heat, set up a series, update ability from series results each week and sort heats by Ability.

e.g. if you were to choose 9 as the max
10 TC's book in - bbk will make it 5 & 4
9 Buggy - bbk will make it 1 ht of 9

So you may have 3 heats, or occasionally sometimes 2 and sometimes 4
Late arrivals just get placed where you can.

Anyone driver getting good at this game, going to competitions IS DEFINITELY going to come across slower drivers, so best learn to overtake safely now.

Everyone pays the same money to ride on a dodgem, so why should a 5 yr old get less time than a grandad? (or the other way about for that matter) :thumbsup:

just my fourpence hap'nney

[Steven Forster]

Agree with everything what FastWheels and bill (baD) have said, wise words...............:thumbsup:

Can you not place the known faster drivers in order from experienced to novice for the first qaulifying round but set the starting order so there is the 1.5 second gap between each car that way it wont be destruction derby in the first corner and will then give you an order from the position you finish in for the next qualifying rounds through to the final/s "BUT" without having the reverse order to help the first corner accidents.........???

Are all these 2 penneth's worth gonna be going towards the clubs funds ;) :woot:

[TangerineDream]

Wow, everyone has been busy! Jim, your keyboard must be worn out :p
Thanks for making me part of 'The Elite'!! And apologies for adding that viscous loop at the bottom of the straight, it got me too while I tried (and failed) to steam past Gary on the last lap (resulting in a Massa esq collision)

Some comments and thoughts should anyone like to listen:

First Corner Pile Ups
To answer Colin, we tried staggered starts a few years back and the concessus was that they were much unloved as they took out the true spirit of racing, i.e. why bother passing someone if I can just sit behind and win.....
I think the issue is the starting grid, we had gotten much better at starting a sensible distance apart but recently it has gone back to a free for all, to solve this why don't the marshalls of each heat take responsibility for the grid, set people 1.5 metres apart or so, that should help (I think it may have been worse last week as we started on the straight in each heat, which isn't normal.

Track Layouts
Mark got some good layouts laminated so we should use these if we are stuck, I agree with points raised, why don't we keep a track layout for one month then it allows more people to help with the track and not feel like they are getting in the way.
Also if we drag all of the track to one side of the hall it is much easier to come up with a layout (i.e. when you can see the floor).
I think having a gap along the straight helped with marshalling, why dont we try this each week and save the 30m dash up the straight marshalling.

Splitting Heats
As Mike says, no disrespect to the novice drivers (as we all started here - albeit some 15yrs ago :woot:), it is the mix of ability rather than no's that is our issue to contend with. We had some really close races which turned into a bit of a let down due to tangles and car breakages. As Paul says he found it less fun having to always be thinking about jumping out of peoples way rather than just improving how quick he can get around the track.
We need to have some dialog during the booking in to work out whats best for both classes each week, I think due to the varying numbers this only would work if we do this each week e.g. one week we have 8 experienced drivers, no need to split, next week we have 5 new drivers - again no need to split, week after we have a mix of both - split the heats.
I know people dont want to loose a round if possible, but I'd rather have closer racing (I'm still convinced we can still manage 5 rounds of 4 heats anyway!!)
Again on the reverse grid, this only works with similar abilities (i.e. with split heats if needed), but I think it's given some really good racing and makes it more challenging for those who qualify at the front. I remember Mel winning (or nearly) the A - Final a few weeks back, holding off the faster guys behind, surely challenging and good racing for all.

Anyway, looking forward to next week!!

[TangerineDream]

Also if anyone wants a Tamiya 416, i've reduced it to £150 quid!
It's posted in the for sale section on OOple too!

[gar]

First Corner Pile Ups
To answer Colin, we tried staggered starts a few years back and the concessus was that they were much unloved as they took out the true spirit of racing, i.e. why bother passing someone if I can just sit behind and win.....
I think the issue is the starting grid, we had gotten much better at starting a sensible distance apart but recently it has gone back to a free for all, to solve this why don't the marshalls of each heat take responsibility for the grid, set people 1.5 metres apart or so, that should help (I think it may have been worse last week as we started on the straight in each heat, which isn't normal.

Hi Paul well the staggered starts work very well at the barley Mow as the first three heats of the night should really be about qualifying.ie lap times and the amount of laps.As to gain your final grid position

Then when it comes to the finals you all start at the same time so racing will or should begin then

saves broken wishbones at the last corner lol:p:p

Gary :thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

StAggered starts def get thumbs down from me for the reason mentioned. A sensible grid and some restraint on lap 1 would solve first corner pileups. As for heats of less than 4 - fine if you're happy to have less than 4 marshals???
Also dispute the buggys being victimised and unlikely to get split because of less numbers. Buggys are increasing by the week and I'm sure will outnumber TC's very soon!
That'll mean 4 heats and solve everyone's gripes - sooner the better from my point of view. Anyone else want to stand for chairman at the next AGM???

[cheapskate]

StAggered starts def get thumbs down from me for the reason mentioned. A sensible grid and some restraint on lap 1 would solve first corner pileups. As for heats of less than 4 - fine if you're happy to have less than 4 marshals???

Thumbs down for the staggered starts for me too, i know the heats are supposed to be to get the best time for your position in the finals but theres no racing except against the clock.

A prime example of why we shouldn't have staggered starts was the tc A 3rd heat, Mark and Gary raced bumper to bumper for what must have been 6 laps and was brilliant to watch.

I think it would be a good idea to run the same track layout for 4 weeks and as was mentioned by Paul (and myself in an earlier post:rolleyes:) there is an A4 binder which has about 8 or so track layouts which we can work from.

How easy would it be to set up a site to put the results on from the nights racing? Do you just save the results on a memory stick and transfer them across to the site?
If it was easy enough to do i would do it.:thumbsup:

and finally.... where was Mr Anderson???, i sneaked into the A final again- probably cos you wern't there and Ray had a stinker:lol:

See you's mon,
Mal

[baD]

............
How easy would it be to set up a site to put the results on from the nights racing? Do you just save the results on a memory stick and transfer them across to the site?
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See you's mon,
Mal

About a 10 min job if you always do it from the same PC/Laptop, after it's been set up and done once.

[cheapskate]

About a 10 min job if you always do it from the same PC/Laptop, after it's been set up and done once.

so is it a case of me saving the results from the nights racing, taking them home and putting the results on my laptop Bill or do you have to use the laptop that has been used for the timing?

[baD]

so is it a case of me saving the results from the nights racing, taking them home and putting the results on my laptop Bill or do you have to use the laptop that has been used for the timing?

Either

The most technical part is how you actually upload the files to the net. Is there an FTP or upload facility on both, and can you connect to broadband with both? Do you have a domain you can FTP files to?

If you can do that, at home, from the club laptop, then do so as this saves the copy from one machine to the other. Like everything, there is always more than one way to skin the cat. Not a problem to copy the HTM files/folders in one go from one laptop to another.

PM me your mob number if you want a quick overview - we could have a longer run through it on a Monday night.

[hazzelarator]

If you do staggered starts then you may aswell sell your arse to the devil. Whats the point in 'racing' if you gap the starts? Major thumbs down!

I have a suggestion, Mark may not want to do it, but should we not ellect Mark as 'Head Gaffa' of the club? That way he can make all the decisions and if you don't like it you dont have to race? After all 'A camel is horse designed by a comitee'! and this horse is getting two lumpy with everyone hoying there 4 pennith in. It seems to me there are too many ppl who have ideas on the keyboard but not on the night? Mark has run this club pretty much single handedly thus far and I think hes doing a great job so why not put him in charge? His decision is final? I raced at a NITRO club that 'Phil the ear' Ran and it was the best RC club about (for a while) because it was his decision on rules etc and you had to like it or lump it. He ran it like a business rather than a Union. Just a suggestion :thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

If you do staggered starts then you may aswell sell your arse to the devil. Whats the point in 'racing' if you gap the starts? Major thumbs down!

I have a suggestion, Mark may not want to do it, but should we not ellect Mark as 'Head Gaffa' of the club? That way he can make all the decisions and if you don't like it you dont have to race? After all 'A camel is horse designed by a comitee'! and this horse is getting two lumpy with everyone hoying there 4 pennith in. It seems to me there are too many ppl who have ideas on the keyboard but not on the night? Mark has run this club pretty much single handedly thus far and I think hes doing a great job so why not put him in charge? His decision is final? I raced at a NITRO club that 'Phil the ear' Ran and it was the best RC club about (for a while) because it was his decision on rules etc and you had to like it or lump it. He ran it like a business rather than a Union. Just a suggestion :thumbsup:

Totally agree with what Harry is saying, Mark is doing a brilliant job, it gets my vote for the final word coming from Mark :thumbsup:

[angieamyabbie]

I think people have the wrong impression on what a staggered start is
Their is only seconds between racers at the start so certainly doesn't stop racing it just stops the mass pileup at the first corner I only mentioned it because I have noticed that ever buggy race I have been in I have deliberately started last and by the end of the second corner I have overtaken 3 or 4 people who have crashed at the first corner hence driving round marshals and possible damage to my car running a grid start in theory is exactly the same as a staggered start as people have further to go than other so are at a disadvantage but some tend to jump the start and get through the line as the race starts hence still being counted if you were to jump a staggered start your first lap would not count

But overall I must say I am thoroughly enjoying buggy racing and now look forward to a Monday night racing I am not really bothered about how we start as I say I am always at the back anyway due to never finishing a race, I might get round to buying a new servo one day

Keep up the good work I agree that it's good to have someone in overall charge but I also think that a club runs round it's members so discussions like this are productive.

As most of you know i also run the barley mow club and have raced at several other clubs ,teeside,jarrow,Gateshead,Washington and a been to a few nationals were staggered starts were always used I had never heard of anyone not liking them so I will now check up with my club to see if they think it's better with a normal start, so again thanks for all the comments

Unfortunately I think I will be missing on Monday but see you the week after

[gar]

Hi
AS for the idea of no say and lump it well sounds like a bad idea to me
thats not how you run a club

And as for staggered start well its just like qualifing in F1 then you could call the final the main race but as thay say no say

[Ray Mac]

If you do staggered starts then you may aswell sell your arse to the devil. Whats the point in 'racing' if you gap the starts? Major thumbs down!

I have a suggestion, Mark may not want to do it, but should we not ellect Mark as 'Head Gaffa' of the club? That way he can make all the decisions and if you don't like it you dont have to race? After all 'A camel is horse designed by a comitee'! and this horse is getting two lumpy with everyone hoying there 4 pennith in. It seems to me there are too many ppl who have ideas on the keyboard but not on the night? Mark has run this club pretty much single handedly thus far and I think hes doing a great job so why not put him in charge? His decision is final? I raced at a NITRO club that 'Phil the ear' Ran and it was the best RC club about (for a while) because it was his decision on rules etc and you had to like it or lump it. He ran it like a business rather than a Union. Just a suggestion :thumbsup:

Just to let the Tyne/Met members know that Mark R "IS" the voted and elected chairman of this club, and has been since last year. Also it was his "quest" to find a new venue so all could carry on racing. You have to admit that he, Paul, and Mike have done a "BLOODY GOOD JOB".
So, let us ALL stop this quibiling and try and "enjoy" our nights racing.

The "old man":):thumbsup:

[MarcF]

Well said ray:thumbsup:

The AGM will be coming up again in a few months, so lets have a better discussion then on posssible changes to format & discussions on heat split etc..then rather than over the forums. Lets leave the elected members to run the meetings and make desicions on the race night as required hopefully keeping the majority happy and enjoy racing!

[MR ANDERSON]

and finally.... where was Mr Anderson???, i sneaked into the A final again- probably cos you wern't there and Ray had a stinker:lol:

See you's mon,
Mal[/QUOTE]

hi bud, the wife was at work til 7pm, that meant i didnt get the car til 715pm, i could of got down for 730pm but i didnt want to get dirty looks all night by the hard working people that set the track out, also didnt fancy the 1 pound late fee:woot:, anyway i wanted to let u get in the A finals again so well done for that, i will bring camera along on monday and take some photos, will try to upload on oople if pos, better go now, nothing worse when people hog this site and go on and on and on and on and on and on and fastwheels cough cough:p

[FastWheels]

Just a suggestion :thumbsup:
Suggestion Rejected

Seig Heil :woot:

[FastWheels]

Just to let the Tyne/Met members know that Mark R "IS" the voted and elected chairman of this club, and has been since last year. Also it was his "quest" to find a new venue so all could carry on racing. You have to admit that he, Paul, and Mike have done a "BLOODY GOOD JOB".
So, let us ALL stop this quibiling and try and "enjoy" our nights racing.

The "old man":):thumbsup:

Bravo "oldun"

Let me join you in congratulating all who organise, promote, and nurture this club through their selfless efforts.

No one including me wants to detract from any of the positives I'm sure, but it would be detrimental to any club if those members who are capable of independent thought failed to exercise that function, we must all strive to meet the challenge to suggest possible improvements, after all if they had scrapped the "Wheel" at its inception this whole thread would be academic (for those who struggle to understand this concept just 'Google It'

Change is the only constant, and as the circumstance changes around you, you need to adapt ahead of time to take advantage of it.

[jackdaniels]

Bravo "oldun"

Let me join you in congratulating all who organise, promote, and nurture this club through their selfless efforts.

No one including me wants to detract from any of the positives I'm sure, but it would be detrimental to any club if those members who are capable of independent thought failed to exercise that function, we must all strive to meet the challenge to suggest possible improvements, after all if they had scrapped the "Wheel" at its inception this whole thread would be academic (for those who struggle to understand this concept just 'Google It'

Change is the only constant, and as the circumstance changes around you, you need to adapt ahead of time to take advantage of it.

Are you smoking the ganja?

[chris68nufc]

That's what I thought, elementary dear Watson!

[hazzelarator]

All plans are good and well spoken but at the end of the day I think 1 person should be in charge as I said before

There are other clubs or car parks u can runyour car round in. It takes a lot of commitment from the organisers to run this club every week and for no profit other than creating a place to race. We all want different things but at the end of the day we all want somewhere to race so its about compromise.

Mark and the guys who put themselves forward to run the club should have the last say IMO. If we all throw our 65pence pieces in over the net the club will go no-where. and if Im totally honest I think forums are bad crack as Ive seen in the past ppl just get 'bitchy' about stuff. Lets agree that Mark has final say on things and thats life? if you dont like it then put yourself forward at the AGM. I'm happy to discuss this on Mon night, infact personally I think we should have a short club meeting and miss a heat so that we can all air our views?

This is not an attack on anyone but I think we should all discuss our views on the club face to face and any views should be done in person rather than in this forum? Im personally happy with how things are but maybe im in the minority? Lets chat Monday

[baD]

Great to read that the club has Captain Mark at the helm, and with his trusty 1st Mates they are doing a great job. ( I may not be there much but I can still read :D )

Like every ship, it needs a captain who listens to his mates, who in turn take note of the seamen (no jokes please) otherwise we end up like Captain Bligh.
On the other hand, any seamen who get out of hand (no more jokes please) can be made to walk the plank.

Discourse is good - nasty petty oople disagreements are bad, practice making positive suggestions. :thumbsup:

(hope that is less than a penny worth - I have to economise these days)

By the way - any one else put the word "It" in to Google as suggested above? You get a load of rubbish - nothing about wheels, racing or anything relevant at all :(

[lazysurfer]

This is getting amusing. Been reluctant chairman for 2.5 years at next AGM. Yes I know the half is confusing but the chairman stopped racing half wH through one year. Anyone wanting to stand at the next please do, I'll vote for you! On staggered starts, yes I fully u derstand how they work, the problem is that while I spent six laps on monday virtually pushing Gary around the track I couldn't pass him. So he won the heat. Had I started. Second behind him I'd have won even tho I couldn't pass and finished behind him. It detracts from the ra ing when it's really close. And Peter, there is NO late fee???? Always said I'd rather people skip setup or tidyup when there's a genuine reason like finishing work late or leaving early for nightshift than them not race at all so get your self along next time late or not. Ok tired of typing on my phone now.
Mark (club dictator) ;-)

[gar]

Great to read that the club has Captain Mark at the helm, and with his trusty 1st Mates they are doing a great job. ( I may not be there much but I can still read :D )

Like every ship, it needs a captain who listens to his mates, who in turn take note of the seamen (no jokes please) otherwise we end up like Captain Bligh.
On the other hand, any seamen who get out of hand (no more jokes please) can be made to walk the plank.

Discourse is good - nasty petty oople disagreements are bad, practice making positive suggestions. :thumbsup:

(hope that is less than a penny worth - I have to economise these days)

By the way - any one else put the word "It" in to Google as suggested above? You get a load of rubbish - nothing about wheels, racing or anything relevant at all :(

Oh Dear

This is what Fastwheels is on about people not understanding the posts
I think you need to google (Wheel) not (it)
never mind :D:D

As Fastwheels had the idea about the walkway up the straight as for somewhere to marshell. And it worked great.

Mark and the guys who put themselves forward to run the club should have the last say IMO. If we all throw our 65pence pieces in over the net the club will go no-where. and if Im totally honest I think forums are bad crack as Ive seen in the past ppl just get 'bitchy' about stuff. Lets agree that Mark has final say on things and thats life? if you dont like it then put yourself forward at the AGM. I'm happy to discuss this on Mon night, infact personally I think we should have a short club meeting and miss a heat so that we can all air our views?



As said before in this case no one is calling Mark or his team the club runs well week to week :thumbsup::thumbsup:

What has been suggested is some small changes to try and improve the racing and enjoyment though the night manily it has started about the buggy heat where i may add some of the main club members in the buggy heat including myself would like to see two heats only if numbers on the night allow.This was to try and split the driving skill to enjoy the race better for both newbies and pro end.Or as said in one of the early posts have the touring cars all together one week and the buggys the next seems fair to me.
Or run all the buggys togther in one heat and all the touring cars in another so have two heats and we could have 6 rounds yes a extra round.:woot::woot:

One of the main reasons behind haveing two heat of buggys if number allow is for the New drivers (beginners) as its off putting for someone new to race with fast cars flying past you all the time and at the end of the day its thoses new drivers who come to the club that keep it alive



I think forums are bad crack as Ive seen in the past ppl just get 'bitchy' about stuff. Lets agree that Mark has final say on things and thats life?




Well if there was no forums now i don't think clubs would run or exsit in modern times to be honest things have moved on alot and most people now adays contact each other using the web to organise events ect

and as for The final say on things or lump it well i think thats a poor suggestion as to how a club to be run.
I no Mark from way back at longbenton long time before most tynemet racers and i don't think at all he would want that.
nobody wants the Seig Heil method lets be fair and i'll go to say that Mark won't want that to.


All in Mark is doing a good job

Roll on Monday my car is fixed and ready for action
:D:D

[baD]

Oh Dear

This is what Fastwheels is on about people not understanding the posts
I think you need to google (Wheel) not (it)
never mind :D:D

Oh dear - and another example of someone not understanding - I did wonder if someone could take my comment seriously - I do apologise for not putting a bunch of smilies at the end like these :blush: ;) :D :woot: :thumbsup: :p

Just proves everyone's sense of humour is slightly different ;)

[FastWheels]

I read the above post with considerable interest, until I came to the bit quoted here and then couldn't decide if the whole post was just taking the piss! Eliminate the slow racers? What the h*** is that all about.

The hectic nature of racing at TM is one of the reasons I haven't been back, hardly time to alter the spring/ride height between races never mind actually fix something or change the tyres/wheels. (the other main reason is Monday is not a good day for me, but that's my problem, no one else's).
How anyone could race here themselves AND coach a kid to race is beyond me.

With the increased attendance, increased income, is it possible to extend the evening (at either end) without going over budget, to race longer and enjoy the 'leisure' activity a little more.?

Exactly as you say there's always someone who doesn't seem to get the element of humour unless it's fully explained :D

[FastWheels]

(hope that is less than a penny worth - I have to economise these days)



Is that the old lsd or the new ld :D

[FastWheels]

Those old Johnny Mercer Lyrics keep on flooding back..
Take it away Bing

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium's
Liable to walk upon the scene

not wishing to be too patronising..

Great Enthusiastic Crew
Fine Venue
Week to Week Running Good
Regular Crew for Track Layout & Build
Helpful Racers
Good Natured Banter
Close Racing
Experience Car Repairs after crashing
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Was going to list the negatives but time constraints 'n' all
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

BETTER EXPLAIN THIS IS (The Negatives that is [you have to be so unequivocal] is the joke)(thoughts [ is this stony ground] ?) ;):D

[MR ANDERSON]

This is getting amusing. Been reluctant chairman for 2.5 years at next AGM. Yes I know the half is confusing but the chairman stopped racing half wH through one year. Anyone wanting to stand at the next please do, I'll vote for you! On staggered starts, yes I fully u derstand how they work, the problem is that while I spent six laps on monday virtually pushing Gary around the track I couldn't pass him. So he won the heat. Had I started. Second behind him I'd have won even tho I couldn't pass and finished behind him. It detracts from the ra ing when it's really close. And Peter, there is NO late fee???? Always said I'd rather people skip setup or tidyup when there's a genuine reason like finishing work late or leaving early for nightshift than them not race at all so get your self along next time late or not. Ok tired of typing on my phone now.
Mark (club dictator) ;-)

lol i know theres no late fee lol, last monday was a combination of wife finishing work late and myself starting work at 2am tuesday so decided a little bit of sleep was more important, i havnt been a member of club long but from what i have seen mark is an excellent chief, i also will go along with anythink mark tries at the club with no complaints from me, you cant keep everyone happy mark but u try your best mate and im very happy coming to your very well run club on mondays:thumbsup:

one more thing

will someone please take the energy drinks and pro plus from fastwheels:woot:

[baD]

one more thing

will someone please take the energy drinks and pro plus from fastwheels:woot:

I wondered where most of my old lsd went ! ! ! :woot:

[Sumilidon]

Still a 7:30 start? Thinking of bringing the touring car after work

[beasty boys motorsport]

well i had a look at my car because of the poor driving from me, looked at the manual and found that i had lost a sirclip from my servo saver:cry: no wonder i was all over the track, so hopefully i will have some better control the next time out but you can all rest.......im not back until next monday:woot::p

[Steven Forster]

well i had a look at my car because of the poor driving from me, looked at the manual and found that i had lost a sirclip from my servo saver:cry: no wonder i was all over the track, so hopefully i will have some better control the next time out but you can all rest.......im not back until next monday:woot::p

Any idea of the circlip as i have some lying around...........:thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

Still a 7:30 start? Thinking of bringing the touring car after work

The track starts getting built at 7pm depending how many people get there early to help out !!!

[beasty boys motorsport]

Any idea of the circlip as i have some lying around...........:thumbsup:

its ok i have fitted a new servo saver:o

[beasty boys motorsport]

just got all my electrics to fit to the b44, i cant even get the motor fitted:thumbdown: anyone want to put my roller together for me before i throw it out the window, new hobbyking 8.5t brushless combo (ive fitted the servo:woot:) and new transmitter/reciever

[Steven Forster]

just got all my electrics to fit to the b44, i cant even get the motor fitted:thumbdown: anyone want to put my roller together for me before i throw it out the window, new hobbyking 8.5t brushless combo (ive fitted the servo:woot:) and new transmitter/reciever


It can be a pain but there is a thread here with pics showing peoples electrics fitted, theres a few pages but you will find some pics............

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28954

:thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

its ok ive now sorted the mystery on how to fit a motor:woot:..i'll get it all finished one day:p

[FastWheels]

just got all my electrics to fit to the b44, i cant even get the motor fitted:thumbdown: anyone want to put my roller together for me before i throw it out the window, new hobbyking 8.5t brushless combo (ive fitted the servo:woot:) and new transmitter/reciever

If you need any build assistance either drop it off at TyneMet, or PM me where we can pick it up with the parts, and we will complete it for you:thumbsup:

Busy building a New Boxed B44 for another (as yet to attend) TyneMet Member, so one more will be no problem, glad to be able to offer any assistance as it can be a little bewildering even when you have been 'in the game' a while never mind when all is a new experience:thumbsup:

[angieamyabbie]

A good night racing and I even managed to finish 3 races and didn't come last
Keep up the good work and see you next week

[Sumilidon]

I finished 3 out of 4, and one of those didn't look too bad! Good night of racing, time to crack out the buggies at last

[FastWheels]

Brill to watch the 'A' in both Buggies & TC almost a Photo finish in both, racing right down to the wire sensational finishes!!

[hazzelarator]

Gutted I couldnt make it tonite. Work Shit but hey ho. Did Jeremy attend? sounds like a goods night racing. Im going to have to fix this TC 'Rocket' (loosely used) that I have built otherwise its a revert to the 1994 model lol. If ya cant master it sell it always been my motto lol

[corkyjohnson75]

Can some one start a new thread for this it really gets on my t ts every time i see it.

[lazysurfer]

Can some one start a new thread for this it really gets on my t ts every time i see it.
Rather not Nev, I thing the huge number of posts makes people look at it. We just need to stop the "chat" between members which doesn't really involve the club as a whole.
Anyway, yes a good night racing last night with 18 cars 9TC & 9 Buggy split into 4 heats, 5 & 4 for both classes with a whole bunch of new and fairly new faces :thumbsup: (4 heats Bill - 10 mins between marshalling & racing - get yourself back)
Still no staggered start tho and I aim to keep it that way as long as I can:)
3 rounds and a final for everyone. Some very close racing and less than a second between first and second in both Buggy & TC A finals, Paul Hindson winning the buggy and Nev pipping me to the TC win.
Lets get more there at 7 next week and see if we can get started racing eariler!

[gar]

Well last night was much better with two buggy heats.Racing was closer with the drivers better matched for ability.

The night went very well and very close racing in the two A finals
Watch out next week Mr Hindson lol:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

See you next Monday

Gary:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

Gotta say the Marshalling of my heat was TipTop, fast alert Marshalling, it was a treat to crash :D

Thanks GuyZ :thumbsup:

[TangerineDream]

Yes, was v close, some good action!! We just need Jonny, Buckle, Nev & Gregg to all turn up at once and it will be a cracker!!

[TangerineDream]

Can some one start a new thread for this it really gets on my t ts every time i see it.
Paul, when are you and Ellis coming to join the action?
Best racing in the NE!!

[Steven Forster]

will be there on monday...........:thumbsup:

[corkyjohnson75]

Paul, when are you and Ellis coming to join the action?
Best racing in the NE!!

Im away next week but i might come the week after .

What time does it start.

[cheapskate]

Here's the final's results from monday, ive included best and average lap too.

A FINAL TOURING CARS

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Nigel Johnson 19/ 303.71 15.98 15.36
2: Mark Richardson 19/ 304.11 16.01 14.58
3: Gary Armstrong 19/ 310.63 16.35 14.91
4: Nigel Hastie 18/ 302.38 16.80 15.43
5: Mal Richardson 17/ 317.34 18.67 17.16


B FINAL TOURING CARS

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Ray Macaulay 15/ 315.92 21.06 17.72
2: David Humble 11/ 309.97 28.18 19.62
3: James Davidson 8/ 318.37 39.80 17.71
4: Kyle DNS
5: Ellis Carr DNS


A FINAL BUGGY 4WD

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Paul Hindson 22/ 304.26 13.83 12.95
2: Gary Shears 22/ 306.31 13.92 13.16
3: Mike West 22/ 313.05 14.23 13.58
4: Johnathon Carr 19/ 302.13 15.90 14.39


B FINAL BUGGY 4WD

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Greg Williams 17/ 254.34 14.96 13.15
2: Colin Oldryd 17/ 311.24 18.31 15.61
3: Jim Shears 15/ 320.88 21.39 14.82
4: Mark Prior 11/ 281.21 25.56 16.19
5: Kieran Vasey DNS


for some reason when ive posted the results theyve all bunched together, ive tried editing it but it bunches back up!!!!

[FastWheels]

thanks Mal it's good to see the data in the flesh so as to speak :thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

Im away next week but i might come the week after .

What time does it start.

Doors open at 7:00 P.M.

[TangerineDream]

Good work Mal! Nice to see the results and laps

[Sumilidon]

I didn't do the worst! Tbh I'm surprised the Ansmann took the beating it did unscathed - only retired in the one race when the motor somehow worked itself loose.

[cheapskate]

thanks Mal it's good to see the data in the flesh so as to speak :thumbsup:

No probs Jim. The best and average times are only from the final though, you may have gotten better times earlier in the night.

[FastWheels]

While you want a good turnout thus providing funding to cover the venue overheads there lies the dreaded dilemma, there needs to be, if numbers decree, more heats, yes that could lead to the Dreaded 4 Heats :woot: or More :woot::woot: Like the dilemma of the sword of Damocles do we hope there is a smaller turnout meaning a STAGGERING 3 Heats :thumbsup: or less, :thumbsup::thumbsup: or lots of racers spoiling the evening by providing lots of lovely lucre :thumbsup: but at a cost of having more heats :thumbdown:

For anyone stressing due to a frenetic race regime, you may benefit from a course of Prozac or similar (providing your GP prescribes them), for a more holistic approach a few mantra chants will provide a soothing sonic massage (between rounds when there's time, may well suffice)

What would cicero have thought you may ask!

Reflect on a few words by Steve in his Stanford address

"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything -- all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure -- these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart."


I think he meant 3 Heats or 4 :D:D:D or :D:D:D:D

[Ray Mac]

When did you get your diploma in verbal diarrhea? Also writing it?

No offence ment:p:woot::confused::rolleyes::lol::eh?:

[FastWheels]

When did you get your diploma in verbal diarrhea? Also writing it?

No offence ment:p:woot::confused::rolleyes::lol::eh?:

HaHa you accusing me of Diatribes..

the ever so slightly iconclastically inclined......purveyor of all things truthful ;)

[nobby]

When did you get your diploma in verbal diarrhea? Also writing it?

No offence ment:p:woot::confused::rolleyes::lol::eh?:

Hahaha:thumbsup:

[baD]

HaHa .........
the ever so slightly iconclastically inclined......purveyor of all things truthful ;)

Did you perhaps mean iconOclastically ? May have been easier to spell reactionary to traditionalism, but perhaps not :)

[FastWheels]

Did you perhaps mean iconOclastically ? May have been easier to spell reactionary to traditionalism, but perhaps not :)

You you may have missed the intention, when I saw that others were using the urban dictionary, seemingly with impunity, I thought, be different go along with the majority, wrong move, but thanks will try to get a bigger & better keyboard for this mobile, then again maybe it was a yypo ypto tiptoe-.............:woot:

Thanks

[MR ANDERSON]

please stop posting garbage, my brain is melting, we are not all nuclear physicists, some of us are just wagon drivers and any words that go into double figures just hurt my brain to read, it took me 5 mins to write the word physicist for christ sake, i need a lye down now thats twice i had to spell it:confused:

[cheapskate]

please stop posting garbage, my brain is melting, we are not all nuclear physicists, some of us are just wagon drivers and any words that go into double figures just hurt my brain to read, it took me 5 mins to write the word physicist for christ sake, i need a lye down now thats twice i had to spell it:confused:

Are you gracing us with your precence this week Pete?

[lazysurfer]

please stop posting garbage, my brain is melting, we are not all nuclear physicists, some of us are just wagon drivers and any words that go into double figures just hurt my brain to read, it took me 5 mins to write the word physicist for christ sake, i need a lye down now thats twice i had to spell it:confused:

I'll second that pete if it's not relevant, don't post it. Jim, use google to find a philosophy forum somewhere!

[FastWheels]

It should add a little enlightenment to give a broader perspective to a subject, but a degree of diversity tends to help give and I quote the slightly sardonic............

stress heads a chance to relax. :eh?:

but sure Relevance will be my watchword, unless of course necessity requires me to submit a reply.

[MR ANDERSON]

Are you gracing us with your precence this week Pete?

been starting work at 2 am:( will try my best to make it tomorrow matey, will bring camera aswell so everyone put on your best shell:thumbsup:

[MR ANDERSON]

I'll second that pete if it's not relevant, don't post it. Jim, use google to find a philosophy forum somewhere!

its racing jim but not as we know it:woot:

[cheapskate]

been starting work at 2 am:( will try my best to make it tomorrow matey, will bring camera aswell so everyone put on your best shell:thumbsup:

I'll pm you my number mate, if your running a little late text me and i'll get you and Matthew booked in:thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

Is there any chance we could set up a winter championship running the same format we did in the summer- 8 rounds best 6 to count?

[MarcF]

Yeah, sounds a good idea mate

[lazysurfer]

Is there any chance we could set up a winter championship running the same format we did in the summer- 8 rounds best 6 to count?

Will be awkward until the heats issue settles down and were regularly running the same numbers :-/

[Steven Forster]

will be there tomorrow to bump the buggy numbers up ;)

:thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

will be there tomorrow to bump the buggy numbers up ;)

:thumbsup:

and i'll be there to bump into buggies:woot::woot: but not on purpose:eh?:

[hazzelarator]

It should add a little enlightenment to give a broader perspective to a subject, but a degree of diversity tends to help give and I quote the slightly sardonic............

:eh?:

but sure Relevance will be my watchword, unless of course necessity requires me to submit a reply.

Do you talk like this in day to day life Shakespeare? It reads like my A-level English Literature modules, full of big words that are totally impractical to use on a daily basis but I thought it may have impressed someone?!?! :thumbsup:

'Subsisto trying futurus quispiam vestri non' :p

[Ray Mac]

OK Harry! Wot's that aal aboot??:confused::confused::confused::eh?::eh?::eh ?:

[FastWheels]

Another great night at the norths premier Indoor Buggy Racing Club Tyne Met (we cater for those TCs as well just to make the numbers up of course) some really close racing again, great turnout, executive decision made by our chairman, unanimously supported by one & all to keep the heats & rounds smoothly running, thanks Mark :thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

Guys

Good nights racing last night with 22 racing equalling our record from the venue.
Equal numbers meant 4 heats which went rather smoothly considering it’s the first time we’ve done it.
It was decided that rather than loose a full round for everyone buggys and TC’s will alternate weeks to miss a round meaning drivers only loose a race every 2 weeks rather than every week allowing us time for 4 finals.
This is the way I intend to go from now on unless anyone comes up with a better option.
Also allows a bit chill time with tn minute breaks between marshalling & racing which even allowed me time to make some car tweaks for a change!
Quick mention on a couple of things - when you’re marshalling, please watch your area of track rather than just watching the race and be careful not to jump in front of or even onto a car when you do go to marshal someone. Also when you’re being lapped, please allow the lapping car to pass without trying to race them. If you collide with a lapping car once it’s passed you its generally your fault!
Anyway, like I say, cracking smooth nights racing and looking forward to next week

[lazysurfer]

Another great night at the norths premier Indoor Buggy Racing Club Tyne Met (we cater for those TCs as well just to make the numbers up of course) some really close racing again, great turnout, executive decision made by our chairman, unanimously supported by one & all to keep the heats & rounds smoothly running, thanks Mark :thumbsup:
Cheers Jim, nice to have your approval finally ;-)

[beasty boys motorsport]

another bad night for me, first heat circlip on servo saver came loose (again) so steering was all over (again:lol:) missed the second heat as i was still doing repairs:yawn:, third heat had new tyres on and had no grip so for final put my other tyre which have grip on and still the car was all over the place......found out i was trying to drive on 3 wheel drive again:o stripped the rear wheel:thumbdown: .....one day i hope to have a heat with no problems:lol: car ready to go again........and is up for sale RTR or as a roller with spares etc, new car coming soon:thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

Great night for me finishing 1st in all 3 heats bumping up to the A final, but also had a slight problem of my front wheel over taking my buggy on the straight due to a loose wheel nut :woot:


Only problem ive got with the extra heat situation is that i will only ever get to run 4 rounds (3 heats, 1 final) with me being on late shift every other week when the buggies would get the extra round in :cry:

overall a good nights racing again, will be back on the 24th for my next race :)

[cheapskate]

heres the results from last night;

B FINAL TC

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Ian Watson 17/ 311.79 18.34 16.62
2: Mark Fairbairn 15/ 310.52 20.70 17.96
3: James Davidson 15/ 315.05 21.00 17.87
4: Kyle DNS
5: Kieran Vasey DNS
6: Matthew DNS

A FINAL TC

POS DRIVER RESULT AV ALP BEST LAP
1: Mark Richardson 19/ 305.91 17.00 15.97
2: Gary Armstrong 19/ 310.21 17.23 15.85
3: Nigel Johnson 18/ 300.87 17.70 16.47
4: Ray Macaulay 17/ 310.93 18.29 17.66
5: Peter Anderson 16/ 313.15 19.57 16.53
6: Mal Richardson 16/ 315.01 19.69 17.81


A FINAL BUGGY

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Mike West 19/ 312.78 16.46 15.69
2: Paul Hindson 18/ 302.08 16.78 15.56
3: Gary Shears 18/ 310.08 17.23 15.21
4: Stephen Foster 8/ 157.34 19.67 18.44


Sorry no results for the B Final buggy as someone nicked the sheet:thumbdown:
Not sure if there is laps missing from the A buggy final - i thought Paul had won:confused:

[TangerineDream]

heres the results from last night;

B FINAL TC

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Ian Watson 17/ 311.79 18.34 16.62
2: Mark Fairbairn 15/ 310.52 20.70 17.96
3: James Davidson 15/ 315.05 21.00 17.87
4: Kyle DNS
5: Kieran Vasey DNS
6: Matthew DNS

A FINAL TC

POS DRIVER RESULT AV ALP BEST LAP
1: Mark Richardson 19/ 305.91 17.00 15.97
2: Gary Armstrong 19/ 310.21 17.23 15.85
3: Nigel Johnson 18/ 300.87 17.70 16.47
4: Ray Macaulay 17/ 310.93 18.29 17.66
5: Peter Anderson 16/ 313.15 19.57 16.53
6: Mal Richardson 16/ 315.01 19.69 17.81


A FINAL BUGGY

POS DRIVER RESULT AV LAP BEST LAP
1: Mike West 19/ 312.78 16.46 15.69
2: Paul Hindson 18/ 302.08 16.78 15.56
3: Gary Shears 18/ 310.08 17.23 15.21
4: Stephen Foster 8/ 157.34 19.67 18.44


Sorry no results for the B Final buggy as someone nicked the sheet:thumbdown:
Not sure if there is laps missing from the A buggy final - i thought Paul had won:confused:
Yep it missed the first lap for me and Gary. I'll change the settings next week so we don't have the problem again.
I'll also update the series results for RD1, I've set this for best 5 of 8 rounds!!

[cheapskate]

im busy building a website to post the results from, could someone cllick on the link and tell me if it works:)

http://malrich36.moonfruit.com/

[beasty boys motorsport]

im busy building a website to post the results from, could someone cllick on the link and tell me if it works:)

http://malrich36.moonfruit.com/

yep that works:)

[cheapskate]

yep that works:)

thanks:thumbsup:
its still a work in progress but hopefully i will be able to post all data from a nights racing on there for everyone to see,
if anyone has any suggestions for the site let me know.
the only down side is the site is free and im limited to 20mb

[lazysurfer]

Great night for me finishing 1st in all 3 heats bumping up to the A final, but also had a slight problem of my front wheel over taking my buggy on the straight due to a loose wheel nut :woot:


Only problem ive got with the extra heat situation is that i will only ever get to run 4 rounds (3 heats, 1 final) with me being on late shift every other week when the buggies would get the extra round in :cry:

overall a good nights racing again, will be back on the 24th for my next race :)

Don't see any reason we couldn't swap weeks if it's no problem for anyone else and you're going to be a regular every 2nd week!

[Steven Forster]

Don't see any reason we couldn't swap weeks if it's no problem for anyone else and you're going to be a regular every 2nd week!

Well since i started racing at tyne met its just keeps getting better all the time, good atmosphere, good racing, good laugh and not to mention my driving is getting better...........(when my wheel stays on :woot:)

I would race every week if i could :thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

dont know if anyone is interested but my FTX vantage buggy is on ebay (as a roller) with spares, but needs a front drive shaft

also

as my new buggy is a b44 i dont need the lipo stick, i have 3 which when charged last me a whole night, one came with the vantage is 2700mah and the other 2 are 4200, always balanced and used about 7-8 times and have deans connectors....£50 for the 3

message me if anyone is intereseted......forgive me if i have broke any rules:)

[lazysurfer]

Well another busy night with 19 on the track making 4 heats again despite the shocking weather outside.
Nice to see Phil Haines back even if he did show me up for most of the night L
Just need to get Paul Ferris and Campbell with a P back now and I'm expecting Tony Telford back from retirement any week now as he's been along watching the past 4!
Good clean racing an improved marshalling last night with some close battles throughout the night which were great to watch.
As mentioned last night, I’m going to give the buggy’s the extra heat again next week and alternate from there on which will get one regular racer who can only make it once a fortnight on the right week for 4 rounds although if we only need to run 3 heats at any point this will change the weeks again.
Hopefuly see you all back next Monday

[cheapskate]

Right ive got the results from last night on a memory stick, ive got the website, HOW THE F+@* do i get the results onto the site?:confused:
i wont let me copy and paste them:cry:

anybody got any idea??? Bill you out there:thumbsup:

[FastWheels]

no idea Mal but site layout looks good :thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

Well another busy night with 19 on the track making 4 heats again despite the shocking weather outside.
Nice to see Phil Haines back even if he did show me up for most of the night L
Just need to get Paul Ferris and Campbell with a P back now and I'm expecting Tony Telford back from retirement any week now as he's been along watching the past 4!
Good clean racing an improved marshalling last night with some close battles throughout the night which were great to watch.
As mentioned last night, I’m going to give the buggy’s the extra heat again next week and alternate from there on which will get one regular racer who can only make it once a fortnight on the right week for 4 rounds although if we only need to run 3 heats at any point this will change the weeks again.
Hopefuly see you all back next Monday

Thanks for that mark i really appreciate it, hope nobody minds.........:blush:

[baD]

anybody got any idea??? Bill you out there:thumbsup:

Don't have a clue how Moonfruit works - but your site looks a good 'un.
I'd suggest imho that you make external links open in a new tab/window as this allows users to close it when finished and easily return to viewing your site.

re results, if moonfruit accepts uploads of html files then should not be a prob with direct upload of the html created by bbk - this also saves you the effort of creating pages or links on your site as bbk does it for you.

Send me a pm with your mob no if you want to run through it. I think I said once before that I'll upload for you if someone were to send me a zip of the database each week. The first essential is to ensure every week is run as a new meeting and not over writing the previous one AND ensure that all meetings are run within the same bbk database.

P.S. - the only reason I'm not there recently is Sundays & Mondays are real busy for me of late - I'd love to be there and will be the first Monday evening I can :thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

thanks Bill, unfortunatley it doesnt seem that moonfruit accepts html which is why im having so much trouble uploading the race results,
ive tired changing the file in microsoft word and uploading it to the site but it'll only then allow to to save the file and not view it which is a bit of a chew on:thumbdown:.
If its ok with you i'll zip the files and email them to you, can you pm me your email please.
thanks for all you help mate:thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

Well another busy night last night with a nice even split of 20 drivers comprising 10 of each class. 4 heats of 5 with the buggies getting the extra round so TC's on for the 4 rounds qualifying next week.

[FastWheels]

The one thing that disappoints me every week about this RC Car club, is the way the time flies (it's sooo good), you just feel you're about to get into your stride, then that's it for another week, roll on next Monday!!!!!!!

It's just too good, keep it to yourself in case anyone else wants to attend.
;)

Newcastle R.C. Racers at TyneMet - setting the standard!:thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

your right jim the time flies over but thats what happens when your enjoying yourself:thumbsup: i now have to wait 2 weeks as im at work next week:thumbdown:

[Steven Forster]

The one thing that disappoints me every week about this RC Car club, is the way the time flies (it's sooo good), you just feel you're about to get into your stride, then that's it for another week, roll on next Monday!!!!!!!

It's just too good, keep it to yourself in case anyone else wants to attend.
;)

Newcastle R.C. Racers at TyneMet - setting the standard!:thumbsup:

your right jim the time flies over but thats what happens when your enjoying yourself:thumbsup: i now have to wait 2 weeks as im at work next week:thumbdown:


Same here for me,next time will be 2 weeks :cry:

Was a funny night for me, started off in heat 4 for qualifying.............I fealt like i went backwards as i forgotten that i had changed the ESC settings and found the buggy too fast for me. I dropped the throttle EPA down and added some drag brake on the radio which helped a bit but still found that i was under steering and running wide out of the corners !!!
(think my front diff needs a rebuild :blush: )

I dropped down to heat 3 for the B final still hanging in there only to lose a wheel nut again then watch my wheel over take my buggy :woot:

Front diff rebuild and maybe a few setup changes for next time :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

heres the series standings after 3 rounds


Buggy 4wd top 10

1: Paul Hindson 299
2: Gary Shears 294
3: Jim Shears 285
4: Colin Oldryd 283
5: Paul Morrison 278
6: Ellis Carr 277
7: Greg Williams 199
8: Nigel Johnson 195
9: Mike West 194
10: Stephen Foster 188


Touring Car top 10

1: Mark Richardson 300
2: Gary Armstrong 297
3= Mal Richardson 287
3= Ray Macaulay 287
5: Peter Anderson 189
6= Mark Fairbairn 188
6= James Davidson 188
8: Ian Watson 186
9= Nigel Hastie 98
9= Nigel Johnson 98

[lazysurfer]

The one thing that disappoints me every week about this RC Car club, is the way the time flies (it's sooo good), you just feel you're about to get into your stride, then that's it for another week, roll on next Monday!!!!!!!

It's just too good, keep it to yourself in case anyone else wants to attend.
;)

Newcastle R.C. Racers at TyneMet - setting the standard!:thumbsup:

Nice to have your comments back jimbo. Hadn't heard from you in a while. Read your opening line thinking "oh god, what now" lol ;-)

[Steven Forster]

heres the series standings after 3 rounds


Buggy 4wd top 10

1: Paul Hindson 299
2: Gary Shears 294
3: Jim Shears 285
4: Colin Oldryd 283
5: Paul Morrison 278
6: Ellis Carr 277
7: Greg Williams 199
8: Nigel Johnson 195
9: Mike West 194
10: Stephen Foster 188.............Steven Forster :D

Forgot to mention to mark that my name was spelled wrong :woot:

[cheapskate]

well my buggy is ready to go:thumbsup:
them lrp shocks are piss poor though:thumbdown:
see you's monday

[Ray Mac]

Hi Mal! how's your web-site coming on? :confused: Was Bill able to help you sort out the transfer problem? :confused: See you Monday night, all being well. :thumbsup:
Ray.

[cheapskate]

[QUOTE=Ray Mac;574130]Hi Mal! how's your web-site coming on? :confused: Was Bill able to help you sort out the transfer problem? :confused: See you Monday night, all being well. :thumbsup:
Ray.[/QUOTE

no havnt sorted the transfer problem Ray. Looks like my site doesnt support html files, so im looking into a site that supports that type of file. i might just manually input the data onto my site for the time being( which'll take bloody ages!!!)

[baD]

Here's a link for all you guys desperate to see your times etc.

Results 17 Oct 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/)

Mal needs a site where you can FTP complete web pages - I believe I could give him a folder with password in my domain which hosts the pages in the above link.

[cheapskate]

Here's a link for all you guys desperate to see your times etc.

Results 17 Oct 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/)

Mal needs a site where you can FTP complete web pages - I believe I could give him a folder with password in my domain which hosts the pages in the above link.

BILL THATS MINT:thumbsup:
ive been copying the race results to memory stick and been bringing them home each week, i could zip them and email them to you, don't feel to comfortable messing about with other peoples websites in case it goes tits up:lol: im pretty new to all this.

ive posted the finals and series standings upto rnd 4 on my site;
http://malrich36.moonfruit.com/#/home/4555864776

[lazysurfer]

Well 16 last night was a rather poor turn out by recent standards resulting in reverting to the 3 heat format - 2 TC heats of 5/6 and 1 Buggy heat of 6 - maybe the rest of you were trick or treating?
Yes I know that’s 17 but Mal ran both classes!
Anyway that puts us back in the position that the TC’s are still due the extra round the next time we need 4 heats - sorry to those who I changed it for last week but I tried!
Plenty of grip last night with the fastest lap and race time posted by a TC for a change J
As a matter if interest despite a couple of “holds” between races for people, we could’ve squeezed an extra round - guess we’re getting more efficient due to needing the 4 heats!
SO…..if we start the racing at 7:35 on auto next time we have 3 heats instead of 4 we should be able to run 5 quali and final for each heat. Do we go for that or do you all want to stick to 4 rounds and a final at the more relaxed pace.
See you all next week.

[beasty boys motorsport]

bought myself a new fastrax mega hauler for xmas (ye its a bit early) if anyone is interested i have my JCB tool chest roller for sale, almost brand new, yellow and black, can pack everything you need in it, car, radio, tools, spares, tyres etc, i used it for my buggie:thumbsup: so would fit either buggie or tourer in it....£20 and its yours:o

[Maddog39]

For sale,

Havin a clear out of surplus items which i have,


Hpi Pro4 Rolling chassis and spring kit £50
Near enough parts to build a Losi XXX cr 2wd buggy, could be good for spares £50
Set of TRF Tamiya buggy shocks, £25 with springs
Tamiya 416 Rolling chassis, with some spares £100
2x 4500, 45c saddle pack lipos £30 each

If anyones interested either leave a message for me on here or catch me at Tynemet, cheers!!
Andy Scowen

[jonesy99]

is racing on tonight?

[Steven Forster]

is racing on tonight?

Yes mate, a few of us get there before 7pm so we can get in fast and start getting the track equipment out (the faster the better)..............see you there :thumbsup:

[cheapskate]

is racing on tonight?
You coming racing tonight then Richie?

[lazysurfer]

One buggy short of being able to split the class last week. Come on buggy lads we need 8 to allow a split into 2 heats of 4. Some of you occasional racers get along on a Monday and some of you regulars, drag someone else along if you want the heats split.

BTW anyone who doesn't get the emails, PM me your email address - you don't get then cos I don't have it!

[lazysurfer]

Well a good turn out last night - 20 on the track with 4 heats of 5, the TC’s getting the extra quali so buggies due it again next time.
VERY slippy for some reason, maybe the floor being cold - not sure although apparently even the basket ball lads had complained about lack of grip!
Couple of new drivers last night with Dave (Kyle’s dad) finally joining us on the track and a return for Mr Whitehead Jr racing a vintage Bosscat with a view to coming back regularly?
Good to have Bill Allison popping in to help Mal with the results posting - unfortunately on the one night this year Mal has been missing!!
Anyway hope to see you all again next week and praying for a bit more grip.
One last point I mentioned some time back - unless you have a good reason to park outside the hall such as Ray for being very old or you have too much kit to carry in one trip, can you please all go back to parking n the main car park. We’re getting more and more outside the hall parked on the grass and signs have now appeared saying don’t park on the grass so it’s only a matter of time before we get a complaint.
If you do have reason to park at the hall please keep to the tarmac - if you get blocked in - unlucky!

Cheers

PS Bill PM me your email and i'll send over the file

Mark

[baD]

I think this looks about right.

Winter Series 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results)

Someone will let me know for sure if it isn't :thumbsup:

Looks best in IE, as all 3 colours show - other browsers only show in two colour (excluding the text link colourings) - perhaps Mr bbkRC will one day change the coding.

[Steven Forster]

I think this looks about right.

Winter Series 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results)

Someone will let me know for sure if it isn't :thumbsup:

Looks best in IE, as all 3 colours show - other browsers only show in two colour (excluding the text link colourings) - perhaps Mr bbkRC will one day change the coding.

Nice one bill, think everybody will appreciate it...........as for colour wise i prefer the white and black back ground best but not complaining as its alot better than nothing at all :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

cheers :D

[FastWheels]

Spiffing Effort Bill well appreciated, thanks

[Ray Mac]

Hi Bill! seeing the results in that format certainly brought back memories of results from our meetings at Nissan. Those were the days! what do you say Bill ?
Keep'em coming. See you soon.

The Old One

[Ray Mac]

Hi Mal! Is everything OK ? You were a big miss on Monday night I take it you've read all the results, and what went on that night. You would probably have been in the same boat as the rest of us, struggling for the elusive "GRIP", which a few of us failed to find.
So, let us know how things are, and hurry back.
Ray.

[cheapskate]

Hi Mal! Is everything OK ? You were a big miss on Monday night I take it you've read all the results, and what went on that night. You would probably have been in the same boat as the rest of us, struggling for the elusive "GRIP", which a few of us failed to find.
So, let us know how things are, and hurry back.
Ray.


nice to be missed Ray- dont know about being a Big miss though:woot:
think its the first night ive missed since april,
typical that the night i miss Bill pops along too:(
everythings fine mate just a bit skint at the minute so unfortunatley wont be racing as much as i would like,
see you's all soon

Mal

[lazysurfer]

Ok guys your weekly chase to get your sorry selves along to TyneMet on Monday to race! - extra round for the Buggy lads this week assuming we have enough for 4 heats.
Hopefully a bit more grip this week too, guess new tyres are on the list for me.
And a quick reminder “DON’T PARK ON THE GRASS!” Use the main car park unless you have a good reason not to or are as old as or older than Ray!
Thanks to Bill for posting the link to our results on oople and also a list of “WANTED MEN”
If you’re name appears below we’re wondering where you’ve disappeared to and if you’re still alive but mainly why you’re not racing - what’s put you off?

Gary Campbell
Paul Ferris
Harry Vaulkhard
Jason Seymour

Are the ones that spring to mind!

Cheers

[Ray Mac]

OK Mal! you've got what affects all of us. There's been a few who have only come to socialize, which costs nowt, you're more than welcome to do the same anytime your funds are depleted. Your company is better than a "no show".
So come along, even if just for an hour or two.
Your "old" mate Ray

[baD]

Update for 14 Nov meeting

Winter Series 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/index.htm)

[lazysurfer]

Update for 14 Nov meeting

Winter Series 2011 (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/index.htm)

Cheers Bill
Appreciated :-)

[lazysurfer]

Well a record turn out of 28 racing this week with a couple of new faces on the track and still quite a few regulars missing. No worries about only enough for one buggy heat!
Still rather slippy so I’m not sure what’s going on with the floor at the moment but judging by numbers its not putting anyone off.
A surprise visit by Dave Erhorn after 11 years away from the club - promising to be racing next week, good to see you back Dave. You hear that Gav, Erhorn’s coming back - someone for you to shout at so get yourself along sometime!
Not sure if it was the “wanted list” or less subtle way of telling you to get racing last week that increased numbers or just coincidence – so just make sure you all drag yourselves back next week J

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[kosh]

being kicked out of the house on a monday night soon by the wife to go racing! All i had to do was build a new kitchen, really it was that simple.. and looking after the second baby, and making sure wife had some nights out! and find all my rc stuff! so see you very soon.

[Ray Mac]

Hi Paul! It'll be good to see you after such a long time. You sure you can remember what to do when you get here?. Hope you are enjoying a FULL family life. Looking forward to seeing you.
Best wishes to you and your family.

Old man Ray. :thumbsup: :lol:

[lazysurfer]

being kicked out of the house on a monday night soon by the wife to go racing! All i had to do was build a new kitchen, really it was that simple.. and looking after the second baby, and making sure wife had some nights out! and find all my rc stuff! so see you very soon.
Hopefully there'll still be some spare space in one of the heats to squeeze you in ;-)

[lazysurfer]

Well another busy night this week with 23 racing, 14 TC’s & 9 buggies. Nice to see Dan back on the track after a long time although getting in from West Denton without a car must be a pain. Anyone able to offer him a lift - even from the 62 bus route along through Heaton to Four Lane Ends I’m sure he’s appreciate it!
Also Gary Campbell back although not racing yet and Dave Erhorn turning up with a few questions again, hope to see you back on the track soon.
Quick reminder although I don’t know if it was an issue last night not to park on the grass.
Also can we all enter the hall through the main entrance rather then the fire doors - just a thought that walking straight into the hall from outside will not be helping the grip!

See you all next week

[angieamyabbie]

another good nights racing shame the buggy finals were messed UP
as we could have had a cracking A final
hopefully more buggys next week and i might even set a new record of running 2 weeks without breaking something

[kosh]

Thanks for a good nights racing Mark had fun and will be back next week now my maternity leave is over!

[lazysurfer]

Another busy night with 25 on the track just when I thought it might be quietening down for xmas with parties and shopping etc.
Welcome back to Paul Ferris following his maternity leave - still no Erhorn or Andersons tho?
A bit more grip returned last night, not sure if the track was warmer or if it had anything to do with keeping the fire door shut.
Both TC & Buggy were closely contested - particularly the buggy final between Hindson & Greg and with Ian Watson giving me some pressure in the TC’s
Strangely speaking to Steve he mentioned that the cleaners are blaming US for the lack of grip due to our taping down the track “ruining” the floor!!!!
I did point out that we don’t actually tape down the track other than the loop and odd bit of hardboard but I’ll get some masking tape instead of packaging tape to stick to the floor. Steve seemed to think they may be looking to pass the blame for them not cleaning it properly.
The packaging tape does seem to leave the odd bit of adhesive when it’s lifted so may as well remove any excuse for them to blame us if we can.
See you all again next week hopefully with grip again - so if we can keep using the main door rather than the fire door and see how it goes. Also remember not to park on the grass and if you have to leave early, don’t park right next to the hall or you’ll get blocked in J!

[lazysurfer]

Don’t worry as I’ll send a reminder nearer the time but just to let you all know the only weeks we’re missing over xmas are 26th December (sorry to disappoint those of you who wanted to race Boxing Day) and 2nd Jan.
Racing IS ON on the 19th December as usual and back on the 9th January after new year.
Incidentally neither me or Paul will be there on the 9th January so someone else will have to run that meeting, hopefully Mad Dog Scowen or Westy will make it otherwise - volunteers to learn the laptop please?

[Steven Forster]

Anymore updates for the winter 2011 series, points wise ???

cheers :thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

Well as seems to be normal these days we had over 20 cars on the track in 4 heats. Another new racer with Phil Haines bringing along Amy for her first nights racing.
A slight hiccup with the laptop losing the AMB, first time in a while but a quick reboot solved that without loosing any racing.
Don’t forget next week is the last before a 2 week break for xmas so try to get along.

[lazysurfer]

Anymore updates for the winter 2011 series, points wise ???

cheers :thumbsup:
Sending the data off to Bill today so hopefully something posted somewhere soon if he has time.

[baD]

These may be what you are after .........

Same link as before just updated for the last few weeks results.

Winter 2011 series (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/)

The series format was originaly set at Best 5 from 8, but with there now being 11 meetings, including 19 Dec, I've changed to 6 from 11 - dead easy to change back if this is wrong :thumbsup:

[Steven Forster]

These may be what you are after .........

Same link as before just updated for the last few weeks results.

Winter 2011 series (http://www.pureinsite.co.uk/nrcr/results/)

The series format was originaly set at Best 5 from 8, but with there now being 11 meetings, including 19 Dec, I've changed to 6 from 11 - dead easy to change back if this is wrong :thumbsup:


Thanks for the update bill, appreciate the time you spend on it :thumbsup:

[beasty boys motorsport]

i never got any points for round 8 :woot: not that im bothered, its not as if im going to win owt:lol: i missed round 9 due to work but i was defo racing round 8.....

[baD]

i never got any points for round 8 :woot: not that im bothered, its not as if im going to win owt:lol: i missed round 9 due to work but i was defo racing round 8.....


mmmmmm ?

Are you listed under Competitors for that date?
Did you race in the final that day?
Are you one of the DNS (Did Not Start) for that day?

The current rules are set in bbkRC for points from finals (I think) and probably does not allocate points to a driver who did not start the finals.

It's always a shame if someone is wiped out in lap one and 'appears' to bbkRC to be DNS - this needs manual intervention at the end of a meeting to change DNS to something else so that the software will allocate the correct series points. This can also be done for someone who may have to go home due to time constraints (if the Race Controller has the time that is :eh?: )

Don't shoot the technician, scrag the spec controller or designer if something doesn't do what you want it to :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[lazysurfer]

Cheers Bill - much appreciated.
If you mail back the data I'll use it going forward again. And yep, time to manually adjust any results on a monday is pretty impossible?

[Ray Mac]

Regarding missed points, it seems to me that if you have a race number above 10, in the finals, you don't get any results.
Is this normal, or can it be programed out ?
I think most of BRCA races are limited to 10 competitors , does this have anything to do with Paul's problem of being missed out ?
If I'm wrong don't "take the pizz" too much. :confused: :eh?: :lol:

[beasty boys motorsport]

mmmmmm ?

Are you listed under Competitors for that date?
Did you race in the final that day?
Are you one of the DNS (Did Not Start) for that day?

The current rules are set in bbkRC for points from finals (I think) and probably does not allocate points to a driver who did not start the finals.

It's always a shame if someone is wiped out in lap one and 'appears' to bbkRC to be DNS - this needs manual intervention at the end of a meeting to change DNS to something else so that the software will allocate the correct series points. This can also be done for someone who may have to go home due to time constraints (if the Race Controller has the time that is :eh?: )

Don't shoot the technician, scrag the spec controller or designer if something doesn't do what you want it to :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

dont worry about, like i said its not as if i can even win a heat let alone a whole round:lol:, but i was just puzzled as i raced all night with no problems....well none that i can remember, see you all monday night for the last round