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IceMike
03-01-2008, 11:39 PM
As it says whos broke what so far.

As some of you might have guessed so far the time has come and i had a boo boo!! wit mine. only broke a wishbone, hing pin, and snapped the top off the shock :P

has anyone have a shock snap before(just under the top screw on the cap) or is it something with the new design

showtime
03-01-2008, 11:43 PM
i saw quite a few break at the MK GP a couple of weeks ago & they pretty much all did wishbones & shock caps!
they just broke the mounting lug off the plastic cap, you must have just been unlucky to break the shock body :(

IceMike
03-01-2008, 11:52 PM
no thats wot i meant i did. so if this a flaw with the new caps or just a design flaw wit the car???

showtime
03-01-2008, 11:59 PM
its more a flaw with the driving if you're hitting things hard enough to rip the caps off the shocks :p

i don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with the design :)

racdeaf
04-01-2008, 10:22 AM
i killed front diff as shred the gear ring last weekend
just bought a yokomo one way diff ;)

Northy
04-01-2008, 10:57 AM
I've seen BJ4's snap the top off the front shock when the wishbones gone :rolleyes:

Just think how much force is put into the shock cap when the wishbone goes, its probably the thing holding that corner on the most at that point. Things break ;)

There are some B44 spares in the for sale section :p

G

Richard Lowe
04-01-2008, 11:23 AM
I've seen BJ4's snap the top off the front shock when the wishbones gone :rolleyes:
Yeah I've seen that once too, I wonder who was driving at the time...?

/Points at G :p

I've seen a few B44's break the rear topdeck where the camber link mounts, but other than that normal stuff you might break.

Northy
04-01-2008, 11:27 AM
I think Jim was in control wasn't he? :confused::rolleyes:

G

Lee
04-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Jim said his car just kept going North:D

ashleyb4
04-01-2008, 02:04 PM
It was ace when you broke that lol also you had a pin fall out of your cvd. God and you mocked me and my cr and i beat you 2 rounds and in the final lol with a 2wd against your b44 lol

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rcracer
04-01-2008, 02:15 PM
Maybe these will help :)

http://rctopnews.net/?p=315

ben
04-01-2008, 02:24 PM
That rear top deck looks like it will be popular seeing how many have broke. Why does the rear top deck break:confused:

lil ben

AndyM
04-01-2008, 02:31 PM
the ball stud hole is too close to the edge of the top deck, so it is very weak

i think thats why anyway :D

hth

B4james
05-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Associated have mentioned on RC Tech forums that they are looking to release a better version of the top deck which should be stronger.

I had a 501X prior to the B44 and that originally had problems with the rear alloy camber link support breaking and Tamiya then released a reinforced one.

Every new car has its bugs but I am sure that Associated will iron them out with updates.

Parry
20-01-2008, 06:59 PM
for a b4 you can get a wide bumper im wondering if it would fit a b44 to protect from arm and shocks?

sly
20-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Big bumpers are for people who bat the wrong way.

Parry
20-01-2008, 07:03 PM
protects the back pocket tho!

c0sie
20-01-2008, 07:15 PM
I broke another front shock shaft today :(

grindog
20-01-2008, 08:00 PM
first run today. very happy with the handling. No breakages despite a few good attempts:rolleyes:

DaveG28
22-01-2008, 12:23 PM
Where do people get spares from, both crews and decks/arms etc?

Dave

Northy
22-01-2008, 12:29 PM
If that is supposed to say screws, click the link below ;)

G

markwilliamson2001
22-01-2008, 01:42 PM
I broke another front shock shaft today :(

Thats cos your an animal Cris :p! See you tommorow at the EGM, is it at the place we normally race?

Mark

c0sie
22-01-2008, 01:58 PM
Mark,
As you probably know at Hereford there are two big buildings...one is where we race...t'other is at the end of the complex by the other end of the astro pitch.
Go in their and ask at reception where the car club meeting is :)
There is also a bar on the first floor ;)

As far as breakages go....1 x shock cap, 5 x shock shafts, 1 x wishbone.
Flanders is using B4 Unobtanium's so im gonna get me a set of them bad boys :)

markwilliamson2001
22-01-2008, 02:02 PM
Yes, I think they are slightly longer, so you will need to put a spacer(s) under the piston to get the same downtravel on the front suspension.

CU Wednesday
Mark

c0sie
22-01-2008, 02:52 PM
I thought they were 0.74 (B4), whereas the B44 was 0.80-ish?

Confusion reigns!

Sprocket
23-01-2008, 02:31 AM
Here is how two use a b4 front shock shaft on the b44

You got it the b4 shaft is shorter but they work fine. Tighten the eyelet on all the way (so no threads are visible) then back it off approximately two full turns. Works fine.

DaveG28
31-01-2008, 08:14 PM
Does the 1.02 go on the rear? Or is it a different size again?

IceMike
31-01-2008, 10:17 PM
i broke it again!!! anyone found sumat stronger than the kit rear top deck?? cos i gotta get one now

Gaz_Stanton
31-01-2008, 10:51 PM
anyone found sumat stronger than the kit rear top deck??

Two top decks? Seriously though it might be worth doubling it up in places, i've seen how hard you hit stuff :woot:

DaveG28
31-01-2008, 10:53 PM
Mike,

I think towerhobbies has one or two in stock, I just ordered 2 off them!

markwilliamson2001
01-02-2008, 09:12 AM
Try putting a washer under the nut which holds the ball joint in place. This should help spread the load more, and reduce breakages on the rear top deck.

Chris Doughty
01-02-2008, 09:32 AM
Definately put a large outer Diam washer on the nut side and the ball side of the inner camber links on the top deck if you are breaking them frequenty.

also it might be worth a dab of blue thread-loc - I think some of the breaks on the top deck have come from the ball working loose and 'snatching' out of the top-deck.

IceMike
01-02-2008, 10:21 AM
it starts breakin when i had the ballstud in the outer hole and it started to bend it. bigger washers might work. but wont i need longer ballstuds, where can i get them from

Mike Hudson
01-02-2008, 11:22 AM
You can get long ball studs from losi

Zipper
07-02-2008, 01:08 PM
i broke it again!!! anyone found sumat stronger than the kit rear top deck?? cos i gotta get one now

My mate has these in his store; maybe better than the kit one?

http://mungomodels.com/xtreme-racing-b44-carbon-fibre-rear-top-plate-p-7.html

bigred5765
07-02-2008, 01:41 PM
i broke it again!!! anyone found sumat stronger than the kit rear top deck?? cos i gotta get one now

just face the facts mike if it was made of steel you would still break it
you animal:woot:

IceMike
07-02-2008, 02:31 PM
just face the facts mike if it was made of steel you would still break it
you animal:woot:

yer i prob would.

ashleyb4
07-02-2008, 03:54 PM
just face the facts mike if it was made of steel you would still break it
you animal:woot:


HAHA you know mike so well lol

A

ashleyb4
10-02-2008, 08:27 PM
saw 2 shock shafts go today and 2 rear decks

A

Chequered Flag Racing
10-02-2008, 08:48 PM
who broke what on the B44 @ Temple Park Leisure Centre today?

josh_smaxx
10-02-2008, 09:02 PM
who broke what on the B44 @ Temple Park Leisure Centre today?

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/josh_2k7/NERCRindoorregional20078085.jpg

Thats all i saw :thumbsup:

_JP_
11-02-2008, 12:36 PM
Well I broke a shaft at kiddy, won't break anything again

sold the car now, looks like I will run my losi for any 4wd
B44 will be replaced with an RC8 on wed :)

wezzer
11-02-2008, 02:51 PM
Well I broke a shaft at kiddy, won't break anything again

sold the car now, looks like I will run my losi for any 4wd
B44 will be replaced with an RC8 on wed :)
:o
coming back to the dark side then mr potter ?
cant believe your selling it after only breaking a couple of ball cups and a front shock shaft

Chris Doughty
11-02-2008, 03:04 PM
and then choosing a Losi because its stronger?? :confused:

xx4 has such a twig of a front-end.

ashleyb4
11-02-2008, 03:20 PM
The shock shafts on the b44 are twigs.

A

Mash Potato
11-02-2008, 03:23 PM
Since getting my B44 I've only broken two things, both front shock shafts. I don't know why, but these seem fairly easy to break. Did people have these issues with the BJ4, as I assume (having not seen a BJ4 in the flesh) the shocks are the same?

Plus the B44 front shafts seem to be like rocking horse poo at the moment. Anyone know where I can get one from, as I am now in need?

The shock shafts on the b44 are twigs.

A

ryan
11-02-2008, 03:26 PM
Havent broken one thing on my b44 yet, had some massive crashes as well. I have seen quite a few front shafts break but if replaced with the unobtanium ones (length is slightly different but nothing to to much to make a massive difference) i think it would help to solve the problem.

Mash Potato
11-02-2008, 03:29 PM
The standard ones are "unobtanium" arn't they? So the different length seems to work better?

Havent broken one thing on my b44 yet, had some massive crashes as well. I have seen quite a few front shafts break but if replaced with the unobtanium ones (length is slightly different but nothing to to much to make a massive difference) i think it would help to solve the problem.

ryan
11-02-2008, 03:43 PM
The standard shafts on the B44 are gold, not sure what they are called.
The ones that came with the "old" b4 FT are a silver/blue. The new B4 FT kit comes with gold.

I meant trying the silver/blue shafts on the b44 even though they are different lengths, cant remeber if they are longer or shorter.....

Lee Martin
11-02-2008, 03:53 PM
std shafts are steel.......

old FT shafts were unobtainuim.....they changed them because the Unob ones where losing a bit of their coating after time and could become notchy.....you can tell these ones as they have a blue shade...but they do seem to be the stronger option.....

the losi car....well i like to call it the chocolate..............cause thats what its made of! hahaha

ashleyb4
11-02-2008, 03:53 PM
b4 shafts are about 2mm shorter than std b44 shafts but 2mm is alot in shock terms.

A

Mike Hudson
11-02-2008, 04:05 PM
Not really as you just make them th same length by loosening the shockrod ends a couple of turns and they are fine or you can alternatively get longer rod ends from some other brands

Zipper
11-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Plus the B44 front shafts seem to be like rocking horse poo at the moment. Anyone know where I can get one from, as I am now in need?

http://mungomodels.com/front-shock-shaft-gold-080-p-2.html

Mash Potato
11-02-2008, 04:18 PM
http://mungomodels.com/front-shock-shaft-gold-080-p-2.html

I can't see them on there matey

ashleyb4
11-02-2008, 04:30 PM
there right infront of you

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Mash Potato
11-02-2008, 04:36 PM
there right infront of you

A

That's a bit weird, they are this time you're right. But last time it opened up their homepage, and I did a search for B44 parts but this showed no shock shafts.
All sorted now, and I hopefully have 2 on the way :-), cheers guys.

_JP_
11-02-2008, 05:40 PM
:o
coming back to the dark side then mr potter ?
cant believe your selling it after only breaking a couple of ball cups and a front shock shaft

:)

You may see me at a few meetings!
I'll only run the losi as I have it kicking about!

_JP_
11-02-2008, 05:42 PM
and then choosing a Losi because its stronger?? :confused:

xx4 has such a twig of a front-end.

who said xx4 :) lol

c0sie
11-02-2008, 06:45 PM
You sold the B44 JP?
Sucks man!

I took the B44 for a play at Craig Harris' club on Friday with a 4.5R (cos im stoopid!) and Wez' cells and had the best car orgasm ever :D :D

font9a
16-02-2008, 05:50 AM
A Main hobbies dot com.

cheers,

-- f9a

font9a
16-02-2008, 05:52 AM
don't hit stuff! ;-)

-- f9a

c0sie
16-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Or any decent UK based LHS eh ;) Like Microtech as an example :)

Mash Potato
18-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Anyone know a part number for the longer Losi studs?

You can get long ball studs from losi

zaquiz
22-02-2008, 01:58 PM
Dont know if u have allready talked about this, but just got a rear top deck from asso, and they have made some changes in the back part now! More carbon around the ballstud!

IceMike
22-02-2008, 02:00 PM
any chance of a picture of the new topdeck?