NE Regionals?

[jimarea51]

Hi all,,,,

Any news on the regional dates????

Just thourght i'd start off a thread for it!!!:thumbsup:

I'm trying to compose a calendar for this years activities:woot:

Laters

JIm

[Lee]

Where is the regional rep when you need one?

[Northy]

Sssshhhhh, I'm sleeping...... :yawn:

G

[Chequered Flag Racing]

:thumbdown: for the 6th April for the 1st round.

I'm away playing 8th Nitro :thumbsup:

[Northy]

The dates are being worked on as I type......

If you are involved in the running of one of the clubs in the NE you should have an email about the dates. If not pm me and I will forward it to you.

Cheers,

G

[telboy]

Any news yet?

Getting close.:p

[LEGEND]

I believe the teesside regional is on the 9th and 10th of August, well that is what it said on the website when i checked.:)

[Northy]

Cheers Leg-End :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

The meeting is this coming Monday night to sort out the dates. NOTHING is confirmed until then (what ever other websites say).

Everyone is welcome to attend.
Tanglewood, A64, 8pm.

G

[mark christopher]

Mr region rep.....................................can we use lipo please mr rep?

[LEGEND]

Sorry if i wasn't supposed to tell.

[josh_smaxx]

Cheers Leg-End :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

G

Well it is posted on the TRCC site, he wasnt to know.

[Richard Lowe]

Mr region rep.....................................can we use lipo please mr rep?
Not in the NE this year I'm afraid :(

[jimarea51]

:p

Northy will be allowing any cell types:thumbsup:

Duracell.
Eveready
Ect...


:woot:JIm:woot:

[LEGEND]

Yeah as my cells start to die, the more i need duracell. They will surely give me that winning edge.:thumbsup::lol::p

[Lee]

Will there be pies at the regionals this year.

I like Pie!!:p

[Richard Lowe]

:p

Northy will be allowing any cell types:thumbsup:

Duracell.
Eveready
Ect...


:woot:JIm:woot:
Are Energizer Lithium legal?!

[Cockerill]

Not in the NE this year I'm afraid :(

Is that confirmed Rich? As far as I am aware some regions are planning to use it this year. If that is the case I think the NE should, as it is very likely that LIPO wil be legal at nationals next year, so why not get the practice while we can?

[jimarea51]

Tom,

I agree, we should get a head start on the other regions:thumbsup:

JIm:p

[Richard Lowe]

I'm pretty sure G said to everyone at the York indoor regional we were'nt going to run them this outdoor season.

[Lee]

G said at york that lipo will not be legal for nats or regionals. from PW;)

[ben]

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.:thumbdown:

[josh_smaxx]

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.:thumbdown:

Thats a good point i had never thought of, even though only one lipo is actually needed thats still minimum of £50, plus probably £200+ for cells for nationals its getting pricey, i say when LiPo is legal for national use then we can use it in regionals, lets just hope this happens sooner than later as i for one cant wait to move to this new technology.

[bigred5765]

but if you can and would like to then why not

[ben]

well maybe they might have a leading edge over the cells we are using?:confused:
Then that would make it unfair?

[bigred5765]

but then shouldn't we all run same motors, as our 5.5 is quicker than your 6.5 isn't that just as unfair

[LEGEND]

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.

[ben]

but wouldnt they lipo cells have to be tested with PW. Would they be ready in time. Just think how long it took for the national cell lists to be released?:o

[mark christopher]

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.:thumbdown:

Thats a good point i had never thought of, even though only one lipo is actually needed thats still minimum of £50, plus probably £200+ for cells for nationals its getting pricey, i say when LiPo is legal for national use then we can use it in regionals, lets just hope this happens sooner than later as i for one cant wait to move to this new technology.

so what about those who dont have legal cells for nationals? or who just wantto do regionals NE would have at least 4 new racers i know of if lipo was allowed, 3 of which are members of the new UK Dremel team!!

the idea of regionals is to build up to nationals, so why not encourage new comers to do them with what thay have or a cheaper solution, ben correct me but you have beat me every round running nimh while i have run lipo at worksop
so you can use your national cells at regional and still beat me.

besides it aint going to happen this year in any regionals, non can run lipo unless the driver does not wantto score points/F grading and run in a seperate final

[ben]

:plol. Ive never been to worksop:lol: i want to though. sorry for the confusion

[josh_smaxx]

but then shouldn't we all run same motors, as our 5.5 is quicker than your 6.5 isn't that just as unfair

I see where your coming from, a 5.5 novak motor is faster than a 6.5 navak motor, but there the same price near enough. Now take LEGEND in his previous post, say he was an F3 and got into all the nationals, he now has to work his socks off on his paper round to get the money for a minimum of 3 sets of cells for the nationals. He also uses a CE pitbul X3 charger that doesnt charge LiPo, so he needs a LiPo which could set him back £50, then around £100 for a LiPo compatible charger, thats £150 just so he can stay competative at regionals, bit much i think. Im aware that most people are adults, do have jobs and can afford this but it will still be a blow to most wallets it could have done without. Im all for new technology and would love to run LiPo but just looking out for other people who are doing both regional and nationals who cant really afford the extra LiPo.

Hope i made some sense there lol.

P.S. Sorry LEGEND for using you as an example :thumbsup: i'll pick on someone else next time.

EDIT: there has been a couple of posts while i was typing this, sorry if topics hav already been covered.

[mark christopher]

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.

why do they need lipo? nimh thay have got that they use at nationals would be fine
but wouldnt they lipo cells have to be tested with PW. Would they be ready in time. Just think how long it took for the national cell lists to be released?:o
there in for testing ;) the sticks have allready passed and on the list!

:plol. Ive never been to worksop:lol: i want to though. sorry for the confusion
doh. maybe we can get to race some where then :thumbsup:

[Cockerill]

Does anyone honestly believe that their laptimes would improve in performance by making their car quicker? If so why are you not running 3.5 Brushless motors?

Lipo does not offer a performance advantage that cannot already be achieved with NiMH. If allowed I'm sure they would still run to the same weight limits so theres no advantage there.

The advantage of running Lipo is that it allows us to practice for when they become legal at nationals (IF it gets proposed and passed at the AGM). It also gives for a much more relaxed days racing in my experience. It also means that people who use Lipo can save there NiMH batteries for national events only, so they will be in better condition for the most important meetings.

I was under the impression that it could not be run under BRCA rules, but after hearing that other regions are planning on allowing it why shouldn't?

[Lee]

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.:D

[ben]

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4 :woot:

[josh_smaxx]

Tom, that made alot of sense in terms of weight limits, relaxed racing and using LiPo to save your best NiMhs for nats, im ight have to change my tune shortly :p and then i'll look like a 'tard.

[mark christopher]

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.
then let them run thier national cells!!

[josh_smaxx]

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4 :woot:

You have a soldering iron......... do it yourself :woot::thumbsup:

[Cockerill]

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.:D

Practice for nationals if they get approved.

More relaxed days racing, in my experience

People can save there NiMH for nationals so they perform at their best.

Does anyone have an argument for not allowing them, other than BRCA rules?

[mark christopher]

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.:D
see toms reply

no balancing,equalizing full charging just top up, no need for gennerators (less noise) and your only topping up a 12 volt can cope easier
more time to whatch racing talk to mates ( if you have any)
can do a day on one pack, ask tom!

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4 :woot:
atomic know the dimension, expect a poss chassis for lipo is my guess

Tom, that made alot of sense in terms of weight limits, relaxed racing and using LiPo to save your best NiMhs for nats, im ight have to change my tune shortly :p and then i'll look like a 'tard.


not a tard, just a slow learner :lol:

[mark christopher]

right i will say that NO regional can run lipo for 2008, clubs can as they wish,well to be exact they can run them BUT the driver will need to run a seperate final and wont score points/F grading
this comes to me from PW,

[Northy]

God, you fall asleep on the sofa for a while and you lot go off your tits and talk a load of crap! :woot::woot::woot:

No Lipo, it came from PW so it is the law. Well, unless you want to run in a separate final and not score points.

G

[Northy]

Sorry if i wasn't supposed to tell.

Well it is posted on the TRCC site, he wasnt to know.

Not your faults, but I'll be having a word with Teesside.

This is how confusion happens, people see dates and they become gospel. :thumbdown:

G

[bigred5765]

at Ben and josh
just because lipos are allowed doesn't mean you have to run them
and if you believe theres that much performance difference your sadly ill informed
just makes things easyer for those that has em

[Richard Lowe]

Fully agree Carl (!), it's like brushless in 2wd over brushed - there's no real performance advantage (if anything brushed is better suited to 2wd than brushless) but it's just easier. From my experiments with 5 cells this year I could run 5 cells and say a 5.5 or even 4.5, performance would be on a par with Lipo/6.5 and the car would be more or less at minimum weight so there's no advantage there.

I can't wait for Lipo as it will be much cheaper in the long run than NiMh as well as easier. Currently I buy 8 packs of cells at the beginning of every season, assuming £35 a pack thats £280 per year. With Lipo if I could get away with 1 pack per car and they last me 2 years, thats £70 a year or so. Even with the expense of a Lipo charger it's more than payed for itself in the first year, you could get 2 chargers and still be up on NiMh :)

I'm not too fussed about running them this year, just like when brushless started to be widely used it's changing all the time and as soon as you buy somthing it's obsolete. I would like to give one a try (Mark!! :woot: ) but for the moment I'll happily let everyone else beta test them for me before I part with any cash :lol:

[bigred5765]

Fully agree Carl (!), it's like brushless in 2wd over brushed - there's no real performance advantage (if anything brushed is better suited to 2wd than brushless) but it's just easier. From my experiments with 5 cells this year I could run 5 cells and say a 5.5 or even 4.5, performance would be on a par with Lipo/6.5 and the car would be more or less at minimum weight so there's no advantage there.

I can't wait for Lipo as it will be much cheaper in the long run than NiMh as well as easier. Currently I buy 8 packs of cells at the beginning of every season, assuming £35 a pack thats £280 per year. With Lipo if I could get away with 1 pack per car and they last me 2 years, thats £70 a year or so. Even with the expense of a Lipo charger it's more than payed for itself in the first year, you could get 2 chargers and still be up on NiMh :)

I'm not too fussed about running them this year, just like when brushless started to be widely used it's changing all the time and as soon as you buy somthing it's obsolete. I would like to give one a try (Mark!! :woot: ) but for the moment I'll happily let everyone else beta test them for me before I part with any cash :lol:

fully agree rich and yeh mark were's are try of a lipo

[johnboy]

after watching people run lipos iam looking to invest in a pack its like brushless hassle free and you dont need to carry a case full of nimh its makes racing cheaper in the long term and how mamy times have we seen 4200 nmih go bang ive not seen lipo's go pop yet.

[mark christopher]

richard ill prob have an uncased lipo at worksop next meeting if you want that, ive run it all rounds and a charger you can use
karl can lend you a stick lipo for the same meeting if your doing 2wd?
drop me a pm both

[Antony]

Was this thread started so the dates of the outdoor regionals could be posted or so that we could explore the use of Lipo's??
I've just read three pages of moaning!

Dates please G! (after 'The Meeting)

[Lee]

I think it was for the lipo lovers:p

G is away so i think its only fair to make up some unconfirmed dates.

first one is 2wd durham sat 6th April and 4wd sunday 7th:)

[chrispattinson]

Lee, if by Durham you mean NERCR, I hope we aren't holding a regional on 6th and 7th April, just incase anyone is making arrangements.

I have provisionally booked our venue, and its not for then!!!

Isn't the first weekend in Aprl the interclub??

[Lee]

Chris that was just me srarting rumours like the lipo lovers whilst G is away.:D

[chrispattinson]

Ok, thats alright, I was starting to flap there.

The regional is actually on wednesday 9th April and Thursday the 10th April. :0)

[Northy]

I'm Back! :p

Meeting tonight. Bring money to buy me a stick to beat stu the cock with :thumbsup:

G

[super__dan]

So any dates, the Mrs has me quite booked up for the summer now as I couldn't say no. Hope I can still complete a series in at least one class.

[rcracer]

any idea if you can camp at nercr ? i know somthing was said about changing venues

Neil

[Northy]

Camping is fine at NERCR :thumbsup:

G

[chrispattinson]

Yes, you can camp over at the NERCR regional on both the Friday and Sat nights, though you wont be permitted to use BBQs or anything that will ignite the grass.

[rcracer]

cheers guys ...:thumbsup: