Speed Passion or Team Orion ESC

[carlin]

Hi Guys,

Time for new ESC for my FS2 but not sure what to go for.

I been running LRP for good few years but decided there better stuff on the market with better option settings to get smoother throttle settings on the car & using PC's

Now I have been looking at the two not sure what to go for, have few questions.

What the warranty like?
Are they reliable?
Which has better options for setup?
Anything else I should consider.

I'm running SP V3 Motor 6.5t too.

The two Speedo's looking at are

Speed Passion 2.1 Pro
Team Orion Vortex R10

Thanks

[RogerM]

Rob, that is a super easy one for you ... HobbyWing ExRun V2.1 120A .. £90 and the speedo that the Speed Passion 2.1 Pro is based on.

Follow the link in my sig, mate ... will e-mail you later!

The best brushless ESC I've ever come across (certainly now I've updated to the V3 119MMOD software!!!)

[Col]

Hmmmm. I never predicted that answer from Roger!:p

[carlin]

Yeah the Hobbywing is copy,but i just think they look bloody naff tbh.

Does the SP casing's fit the bobbywings one ???

[RogerM]

SP is the "copy" .... or at more specifically HobbyWing make the ESCs for SP as an OEM.

How do they look naff? Plain black or shiny blue (which is close to Kyosho blue mate).

I honestly can not see a way of justifying nearly 50% extra to get the Speed Passion! Even if you want to have the LCD programmer / PC interface option it's still under £120 combined for the top spec esc.

Sorry I've not mailed you yet bud, been busy but I will. Happy to let you have a trial of my ESC if that will help convince you!

[fidspeed]

i was led to belive that hobbywing made SP speedos not copies .I could of course be incorrectly informed , I currently run 3 extreme stock 60 speedos from hobbywing in touring cars and there bloody amazing try cherry at racers in exile or giant cod both are good guys to deasl with

b****r beaten by Roger

dave

[MantaMan76]

Hello,

Am looking for suggestions for a brushed ESC for my Tamiya Mud Blaster to run the Technigold RX-540VZ motor???

Thanks

[mattybucks]

Hello,

Am looking for suggestions for a brushed ESC for my Tamiya Mud Blaster to run the Technigold RX-540VZ motor???

Thanks

An Lrp quantum or mrt second hand. Overkill but awesome.

[mattybucks]

Speedpassion for me although the hobbywings are very similar looking, and are the same inside.

[carlin]

SP is the "copy" .... or at more specifically HobbyWing make the ESCs for SP as an OEM.

How do they look naff? Plain black or shiny blue (which is close to Kyosho blue mate).

I honestly can not see a way of justifying nearly 50% extra to get the Speed Passion! Even if you want to have the LCD programmer / PC interface option it's still under £120 combined for the top spec esc.

Sorry I've not mailed you yet bud, been busy but I will. Happy to let you have a trial of my ESC if that will help convince you!

Ah i didn't see the blue one now thats better...... :thumbsup:

Black one just looks cheap lol.

So you still have to buy everything etc for ESC

Anyways anyone got any feedback on the Team Orion R10 too?

[MantaMan76]

An Lrp quantum or mrt second hand. Overkill but awesome.

Nice one thanks,i was looking @ 190564831225 on ebay Nosram-what do you think?

[mattybucks]

Someone on here had an mrt for sale. I would go for that over the one shown

[MantaMan76]

Someone on here had an mrt for sale. I would go for that over the one shown

Ok,will get looking.....thanks :thumbsup:

[jpmatrix]

The best brushless ESC I've ever come across (certainly now I've updated to the V3 119MMOD software!!!)

Does this esc come with the latest software if i was to buy it now?

[The Chef]

Hello,

Am looking for suggestions for a brushed ESC for my Tamiya Mud Blaster to run the Technigold RX-540VZ motor???

Thanks

You'll need a good supply of drive shafts and hex cups at the wheel end on the rear as the droop on the original kit was too greater angle and they used to eat shafts and drive cups like marshmallows.

Sorry for the derail.:drool:

[maalcari]

Anyone using the Xerun 60A V2.1 for 13.5T Boosted in TC ?

What about the same ESC for Astro / Carpet in 2WD buggy ? Motor limit ?

[RogerM]

If you buy from Racers In Exile I am sure Stuart would (with your permission of course) open the box and check the software level, update as requested.

All you need to be FULLY adjustable is the ESC @ £90 and the LCD program box / PC interface @ £20 (which obviously you will only have to buy one of no matter how many ESCs you have).
The LCD program box lets you access all features, allows you to access 3 stored profiles (so you can change from a super punch dry set up to a super smooth wet set up in just 3 button pushes) and gives you all the descriptions so you don't have to remember what option 21 actually does!

I have run 60A ESCs in 2wd with 6.5 motors. Lasted a year until the big jumps at Ardent upset the Speed Passion motor and one phase went high resistance and killed the ESC.
I'd say there was enough safety margin to run with a 7.5 without fear at all. Obviously that is without using TURBO features at all, if you want to do that I'd keep it to 8.5 or more!

These days I just run the 120A ESC in all buggies and the Xtreme Stock in TC, both run 100% perfectly and stay super cool too.

As for the colours I deliberately went for the black ones as I think they look cleaner and smarter than the blue. I've never really been a fan of the blue that is common in RC, much prefer a classy looking black / gun-metal finish personally ... we are all different though!
(Think how cool the black will look in an FS2-SP with all that dark anodising mate ;) )

[RudeTony]

Anyways anyone got any feedback on the Team Orion R10 too?


I drove Ellis Kyosho FS2 at Oswestry National all day with the Orion R10 in It is super smooth but without loosing any of the punch and high speed - and boy does it have some high speed - I just loved it - by the way make note that most speed controllers like HobbyWing are 120A -the Orion R10 is 160A.....claasy look too in my opinion........

[carlin]

So with the Team orion do you have to buy extras like you do with the Hobby Wing & you get one with the SP motors dont you ?

[mattybucks]

If you buy from Racers In Exile I am sure Stuart would (with your permission of course) open the box and check the software level, update as requested.

You need to wire the ESC power leads to link it up to the program box. When I sell any speed passion ESC's I update the firmware trackside for people if requested, or send the program box out with the speedo on the understanding that it's returned back to me.

[jpmatrix]

If you buy from Racers In Exile I am sure Stuart would (with your permission of course) open the box and check the software level, update as requested.

All you need to be FULLY adjustable is the ESC @ £90 and the LCD program box / PC interface @ £20 (which obviously you will only have to buy one of no matter how many ESCs you have).
The LCD program box lets you access all features, allows you to access 3 stored profiles (so you can change from a super punch dry set up to a super smooth wet set up in just 3 button pushes) and gives you all the descriptions so you don't have to remember what option 21 actually does!

I have run 60A ESCs in 2wd with 6.5 motors. Lasted a year until the big jumps at Ardent upset the Speed Passion motor and one phase went high resistance and killed the ESC.
I'd say there was enough safety margin to run with a 7.5 without fear at all. Obviously that is without using TURBO features at all, if you want to do that I'd keep it to 8.5 or more!

These days I just run the 120A ESC in all buggies and the Xtreme Stock in TC, both run 100% perfectly and stay super cool too.

As for the colours I deliberately went for the black ones as I think they look cleaner and smarter than the blue. I've never really been a fan of the blue that is common in RC, much prefer a classy looking black / gun-metal finish personally ... we are all different though!
(Think how cool the black will look in an FS2-SP with all that dark anodising mate ;) )

Thanks for the info.

I currently have a 7.5t motor together with a speed passion lpf 2.0gt which has performed great in my 2wd mad monkey although it does seem to lack punch even if i turn it up to aggressive and advance the timing.

I just bought a durango DEX410r and I am not sure if my current esc would be upto the job. Plan was to get a 5.5t or 6.5t and use the lpf.

Is it capable of handling the lower turn motor together with having 4wd?

This is why I saw your link to the hobbywing 120a esc. I see there is a combo for £149 (bloody good value) so was considering getting that with a 5.5t to stick in the durango.

I also have the program box that came with the SP esc, is this compatible with the hobbywing?

Cheers

James

[MantaMan76]

You'll need a good supply of drive shafts and hex cups at the wheel end on the rear as the droop on the original kit was too greater angle and they used to eat shafts and drive cups like marshmallows.

Sorry for the derail.:drool:

Thanks for the heads up the chef, i was considering dropping her a bit by fitting shorter shocks anyways!
:)

[Moose]

@RogerM: which pinion did you use for 6.5 turns 60A Speedo?

I have the blue ones. They are Tamiya blue. Much lighter than the kyosho blue. I would prefere the black ones now. They look better in reality.

[RogerM]

The LED cards like those shipped with the Speed Passion (certainly the case last time I looked in a Speed Passion box ... might have changed now) are only capable of adjusting the settings in the ONE program the ESC is currently running, even then with the latest firmwares having so many parameters the LED cards don't always pick them up!

The LCD box is also a PC interface, will access all the programable features and lets you store 3 programs on your ESC to chose at a button push.

I believe the Speed Passion card is £40 compared to the HobbyWing (when bought through RIE) at £20.

Stuart DOESN'T wire up the ESCs to flash the firmware, he has a funky fixture to mount it on so that your new ESC arrives to you still in brand new, never solder condition even if the firmware is updated for you. That's service!

The Orion is 160A Vs the HobbyWing V2.1 120A but since lots of people (myself included) have run 6.5 motors on 60A Speed Passion LPF or HobbyWing 60A ExRun ESCs I can't see that you need more than 120 for any wind you would use in offroad ... mod touring car I am told are now dumping 6000mAh lipos in a single run so DO need the extra current capacity!

[RogerM]

Moose, I used to run Speed Passion motors when I had the 60A ESC and would have geared a 6.5 on 23/78 in the RB5 (2.6:1 internal). Would do the same with my Orion motors now.