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GRIFF55
29-01-2008, 09:52 PM
Has anybody upgraded the screw set on their B44 yet, to ti or stainless.
If you have, which kit did you get and would you recommend it?
Also, where did you get it (in the uk preferably)?
Many thanks

Mike Hudson
29-01-2008, 10:06 PM
I know quite a few people who have bought stainless steel screw kits for the b44 not sure i'd recommend ti screws though, but they currently from what havn't come out as a set for the b44 people have bought the different sizes seperately

jimarea51
31-01-2008, 10:09 AM
Hi there,

I now that Nortech are working on a 'Bling' kit for the B44 as we speak....

Details are a bit scetchy at the moment but the kit will include Blue alloy light weight cap head screws for the non-stressed areas, this will save those Grams.... Also in the kit will be alloy cone style washers, these help distribute the force/load evenly across the mounting area... And they're in the cool 'Bling Blue' also.....:thumbsup:

Keep your eyes open for this kit and many more @ http://www.nortechracing.co.uk/

Later JIm:woot:

Northy
31-01-2008, 10:31 AM
Thanks for the plug Jim! :thumbsup:

Jim is actually helping me develop this kit, and as one of the best mechanics/engineers (working on rally cars for a living - cool job) I know then I just know that whatever he says will be correct! :)

I will have a kit together very soon for Jim to test on his B44.

To be honest, I dislike stainless, as it is actually softer than hi tensile steel, and not great for many places on out cars. The hex heads strip out much easier than hi tensile steel fasteners.

However if people do want a stainless screw kit, I could put one together. ;)

Just let me know what you guys want.

Cheers,

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 10:50 AM
do I get a kit G? ;)

Northy
31-01-2008, 10:56 AM
do I get a kit G? ;)

Maybe :D

Some stuff will be going in the post for you today.

I have already talked to Jonathan about an S44 - or 'B44 with AC upgrades' (as you guys like to call it ;) ) kit :thumbsup:

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 10:59 AM
no idea what an S44 is, is Jonathan working on another new car? :confused:

good stuff about the stuff :thumbsup:

I can't wait to build my shocks and get them super-dialled-smooth

MattADH
31-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Graham - did you get my PM? LMK if you are interested...

Chris - are you drilling the cap for a bleed screw?
Have ordered some spare caps and the Dremel is waiting?

Northy
31-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Matt, no pm :(

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Im going stock shocks, no drilling, just some whities in there - thats it.

MattADH
31-01-2008, 01:24 PM
From what Special Agent said and the benefits, I really should try this mod as I struggle to get the shocks consistent...

Sorry for high-jacking the B44 screw thread!

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 01:38 PM
well its still a screw in the bleed hole... :eh?:

let me know how it goes though Matt :thumbsup:

Northy
31-01-2008, 02:06 PM
My bleed hole screws are bling blue ones :wub:wub:wub

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 02:07 PM
I might have to make some bleed holes then...

MattADH
31-01-2008, 02:10 PM
G - Better add some of them to my order please!!!

Northy
31-01-2008, 02:10 PM
I find building AE shocks with the bleed hole MUCH easier, and both sides are the same at first attempt :thumbsup:

Anyway, back to screw kits, what do people want? :confused:

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 02:12 PM
bleed hole screws could be thrown in there.

GRIFF55
31-01-2008, 02:39 PM
I'm up for a screw kit. if the discount is right:thumbsup::D:lol:

Northy
31-01-2008, 02:43 PM
But what type of screw kit? :D

GRIFF55
31-01-2008, 02:47 PM
S4 and a b4 then a hb 2wd kit when she's out!

Northy
31-01-2008, 02:54 PM
I am currently working on:

B44
B44 with Atomic Carbon upgrades
BJ4

There already is:

B4 ;)

Check out the shop. Although, this might get tweaked when I get round to putting it on my car! Need more time :(

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 04:30 PM
still have no idea what an S44 is?? :confused:

Northy
31-01-2008, 04:41 PM
Above edited to make it easier for you Chris ;)

G

Chris Doughty
31-01-2008, 05:28 PM
oh... THATS what you mean.. I see now :thumbsup:

Tom3012
31-01-2008, 05:29 PM
i wouldnt mind some bling bling shiny ones to go with the washers northy :D...

any rough guide price?

Northy
31-01-2008, 06:26 PM
I'll look into a stainless kit tomorrow then, we are talking for the FULL car I guess?

Do you want ali for the none load-bearing areas, and stainless for the other areas? Or full stainless?

Cheers,

G

Tom3012
31-01-2008, 07:33 PM
what would be better? i only one them as an asthetic touch;) so wouldnt need them all over.. jus shock towers, top decks thats bout it?

Mike Hudson
31-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Which would be best for outdoors when wet?

Northy
31-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Well:

Stainless doesn't rust
Ali doesn't rust

If you racing in the wet I'd say a full stainless kit with no load-bearing screws in blue Ali. Best of both worlds, no rust AND bling :thumbsup:

G

Mike Hudson
31-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Could you make up a screw set like this for me? Would it also be posible if you could make up an X6 screw kit also?

Northy
31-01-2008, 08:16 PM
Mike,

I'll price them up for you and let you know the score :thumbsup:

G

Mike Hudson
31-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Mike,

I'll price them up for you and let you know the score :thumbsup:

G

Cheers G:D

Chris Doughty
01-02-2008, 11:22 AM
I got some whities and some blue bling in the post today, good stuff :thumbsup:

Northy
01-02-2008, 12:13 PM
Can the people that are interested in a mixed screw kit for the B44 please pm me.

It will include:

* Blue aluminum screws for the low load bearing areas

* All other fasteners in stainless steel (apart from diff bolts etc)

* Blue countersunk washers to spread the load in strategic areas

* Lots of blue aluminium nuts to replace the nuts throughout the car (wow - theres a lot on it isn't there!)

Thanks,

G

Tom3012
01-02-2008, 04:06 PM
hi northy,.... id want all stainless, and blue countersunk washers on the top decks and the shock towers.. plus i may be running double front shock towers, so would need longer screw there.. am i being awkward? :(

Northy
01-02-2008, 04:28 PM
hi northy,.... id want all stainless, and blue countersunk washers on the top decks and the shock towers.. plus i may be running double front shock towers, so would need longer screw there.. am i being awkward? :(

Tom,

I can sort anything out you want, given enough time! :)

Do you really want countersunk screws and blue washers to replace all the screws on the top deck (where the carbon fibre is countersunk)?

Cheers,

G

jimarea51
01-02-2008, 06:45 PM
just wondered are the nortech thongs only available in white or do you have other colours available ??:drool:

MK999
01-02-2008, 07:12 PM
quick slightly off topic question, what are the B4 screw kits made out of? I'm desperately trying to justify putting blue stuff on my car and so far i only came up with "i'll have loads of spare screws" :woot:

Tom3012
01-02-2008, 11:55 PM
Tom,

I can sort anything out you want, given enough time! :)

Do you really want countersunk screws and blue washers to replace all the screws on the top deck (where the carbon fibre is countersunk)?

Cheers,

G


hmmm.... good point G (if i can call you that?:))......

ill let you know in a few days :thumbsup:

ashleyb4
02-02-2008, 12:35 AM
What about a cr and xx4 stainless screw kit i would be interested :)

A

RogerM
02-02-2008, 10:08 AM
Pardon my ignorance but isn't the B44 metric? If so does that mean you do now have coloured metric fasteners? Any colour other than blue?

Northy
02-02-2008, 10:30 AM
No Rog, the B44 is imperial.

G

Northy
02-02-2008, 10:31 AM
quick slightly off topic question, what are the B4 screw kits made out of? I'm desperately trying to justify putting blue stuff on my car and so far i only came up with "i'll have loads of spare screws" :woot:

I must try and take a picture of the kit this weekend, that might help you decide :thumbsup:

G

MK999
02-02-2008, 12:38 PM
I must try and take a picture of the kit this weekend, that might help you decide :thumbsup:

G

My wallet will hate you for it but the B4 will love you, tough call :lol: another thing i noticed actually is it mentions 25 screws for the kit... on a quick count up i got about 35. Is it a typo, a kit for everything that 'shows' or the fact that i can't count? :confused:

edit: just reread the thing about them on the nortech site and it implies they're made of ali/steel as mentioned before in this thread, so that answers that :thumbsup:

Northy
02-02-2008, 12:44 PM
The current B4 kit in the shop isn't a 'full' kit, it is simple a kit to replace some of the lower load bearing screws with blue ali ones, and add some other bling in other areas.

I'll take some pictures :thumbsup: I need to fit it to my B4 :o never enough time.... Paul Rotherham has had it on his B4 for over a month now and hasn't broken an ali screws, and I think he's given it a good beating !!!

G

MK999
02-02-2008, 10:21 PM
Got some pics off rothers and it does look rather good, only downside is he's turning me towards white jconcept ball cups too :thumbsup: wallet hates me this month :eh?:

RoadRunner122
04-02-2008, 03:21 PM
Hello,

I'm just wondering if there is a screw set for B44 in metric system. I live in Greece (where we use the metric system) and I'm facing problem in finding screws in inches (or even allen keys in inches). I'd bought my B44 through tower hobbies (america) and I don't know if a metric edition exists.

And something more: is there a tip in order to unscrew screws more easily? I'm trying to unscrew the top plate and the screws on the front gearbox (screwed in plastic=no screw cement) are unable to turn! I've already broken 2 1/16" allen keys and still nothing!:(

Thanks in advance for your help

RoadRunner122
05-02-2008, 08:42 AM
Hello,

I'm just wondering if there is a screw set for B44 in metric system. I live in Greece (where we use the metric system) and I'm facing problem in finding screws in inches (or even allen keys in inches). I'd bought my B44 through tower hobbies (america) and I don't know if a metric edition exists.

And something more: is there a tip in order to unscrew screws more easily? I'm trying to unscrew the top plate and the screws on the front gearbox (screwed in plastic=no screw cement) are unable to turn! I've already broken 2 1/16" allen keys and still nothing!:(

Thanks in advance for your help

I've just found a solution for easier unscrewing. I put the soldering iron on the head of the screw for aprox. 10secs! Then the screw unscrews much much more easily without damaging the allen key!;)

Mike Hudson
05-02-2008, 10:29 AM
would'nt that damage the thread in the plastic part, never heard of this method before:eh?:

LEGEND
05-02-2008, 10:51 AM
I am sure i have just seen a screw set for a B44 on ebay. I will try to find that link and add it.:)

Here it is Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RC-Screwz-Associated-B44-Screw-Set_W0QQitemZ170184762473QQihZ007QQcategoryZ34063Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQc mdZViewItem)

RoadRunner122
05-02-2008, 11:15 AM
would'nt that damage the thread in the plastic part, never heard of this method before:eh?:

Nope, for only 10secs (maybe less) the plastic is ok! But, believe me, I've done this because it was reeeealy impossible to unscrew with an L shape allen key!

I'm about to order hex screwdrivers in inches from towerhobbies in order to screw & unscrew more easily;)

As I understand there is no way to use metric screws on this kit, right?

federico1974
05-02-2008, 05:53 PM
Hello,

I'm just wondering if there is a screw set for B44 in metric system. I live in Greece (where we use the metric system) and I'm facing problem in finding screws in inches (or even allen keys in inches). I'd bought my B44 through tower hobbies (america) and I don't know if a metric edition exists.


You've got a PM ;)

B44_2008
08-02-2008, 06:25 AM
Hi,


I found this blue kit for B44 on Ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/KIT-VISSERIE-ALUMINIUM-TEAM-ASSOCIATED-B44-BJ4_W0QQitemZ130196539335QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1200QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I bought one, good quality and all the screws are Imperial

Northy
08-02-2008, 08:45 AM
It looks like that kit has some screws in ali that you wouldn't want in ali :thumbdown:

G

delanobe
08-02-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm also interested in a "bling" kit for my B44 but it has to be durable and not soft as butter like a lot of the blue alloy are... ;)

When will this kit be ready to ship?

Thanks

Northy
08-02-2008, 09:41 AM
Sorry for the delay, I am still working on it.

But what you say is correct. Ali screws can not be used throughout the entire car, only in low load-bearing areas.

The Nor-Tech kit will only use ali screws in areas where they can take the stress, and will be tested before release too. Other areas of the car should use steel or stainless steel screws.

Regards,

Graham

font9a
16-02-2008, 05:55 AM
make it a Ti screw kit and I will buy if it's less than $50.

cheers,

font9a

delanobe
19-02-2008, 01:03 PM
ANy update? :confused:

Northy
19-02-2008, 02:11 PM
The stainless screws are ordered but my supplier has been having problems. I should have them in a week or so hopefully.

All the ali screws are here and will be tested at Worksop this Sunday :thumbsup:

G

delanobe
19-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Perfect, please let me know when you have a full kit available.

Thanks

Northy
19-02-2008, 02:24 PM
I will post in here when they are ready :)

G