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jimmy
06-02-2008, 04:33 PM
REDRC.NET once more got a great scoop - the new Schumacher CAT 4WD buggy, the so-called CAT SX was at last confirmed at the Nuremberg Toyfair today, a poster was all that could be seen, but at least things are definite.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/cat_sx_banner1.jpg


http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/schumachercatsx-lr.jpg

The new car isn't to be shown in public just yet and distributors will be the only ones to see the pre-production car at the show according to recrc.net. We have heard some rumours of what's under that dark sleek silhouette:
Triple belt drive
Losi wheel fitment
Super narrow chassis
4+2 cell arrangementThe car should be unveiled properly later this month - on the track, where it belongs.

original REDRC.NET article is here:
http://www.redrc.net/2008/02/toy-fair-schumacher-racing/

Bathy
06-02-2008, 04:46 PM
Wow lots of new 4wd cars, hope we get a good mix of different cars in the A finals this year/next.

xx4-nutter
06-02-2008, 04:48 PM
Slim / Narrow cars seem to be the future !

DCM
06-02-2008, 04:51 PM
someone sneak in and take pics!!!

ashleyb4
06-02-2008, 04:57 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

A

Welshy40
06-02-2008, 05:18 PM
Cooool!!!! Lets hope they have finally designed something good that can take over from the XLS, and Boss Cat. I cant wait to see the pics and if its better than the tamiya then im buying one.

jimmy
06-02-2008, 05:27 PM
After the Pro Cat the first Schumacher cars I saw were after I started racing in 2002, and they all looked slightly unappealing to me.
This one will hopefully look like SeX tho!

Chrislong
06-02-2008, 05:39 PM
ha ha, a few of us discovered the name of this a couple of weeks ago. We had a few suggestions incase it was not certain, seems that it was.

jimmy
06-02-2008, 06:00 PM
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/cat_sx_banner2.jpg

Cockerill
06-02-2008, 06:02 PM
ha ha, a few of us discovered the name of this a couple of weeks ago. We had a few suggestions incase it was not certain, seems that it was.

I still think CAT BQ was the best suggestion :woot:

erkan
06-02-2008, 06:03 PM
bah why hold on the good stuff?! give us pics!! :)

im so wondering about that 3 belt system..

strobe
06-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Who are test/factory drivers for this new 4wd car?

racingdwarf
06-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Cat......serpent......oh sod it the credit card is going to get a good a savaging at some point:woot::drool:

jimmy
06-02-2008, 06:16 PM
Who are test/factory drivers for this new 4wd car?


Simon Moss has been involved in testing

racingdwarf
06-02-2008, 06:25 PM
The thing that used to be good about cars like the cat was they were tested in the uk thus we got a car built for grass/astro grip tracks. Other cars were nearly all tested on dirt/blue groove tracks in the us or Japan. I soooo hope this is a great car:thumbsup::thumbsup:

dallasv8
06-02-2008, 06:25 PM
the side pic does look nice and sleek

HKP
06-02-2008, 07:13 PM
The CAT is finally back! odd looking little bugger isn't it? i see they are still using the Wing Mounts first seen on the Cougar!

MattW
06-02-2008, 07:15 PM
The concept of the spring back wing mounts was first used on the top cat i think in about 1989. :woot:

DCM
06-02-2008, 07:20 PM
those wing mounts were crap then...... lol, I do hope there has been significant investment in NEW parts for this car and not a parts bin special......

Is it a belt drive AE B44 AC Conversion then lol

MattW
06-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Oh i can assure you, you will not find previous cat major parts on this car.

jcb
06-02-2008, 07:25 PM
Cat......serpent......oh sod it the credit card is going to get a good a savaging at some point:woot::drool:


My S4 :thumbsup: ;)


Seriously though it's great to see so much choice in off road at the moment.

Chrislong
06-02-2008, 07:43 PM
:thumbsup: & crashback front arms, they're the Daddy!!

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 07:46 PM
rubber band wing mounts
crash back
one way rollers on the drive shafts
wheel hub disks
sealed belts
all would be nice to see again
but god hope the shocks are better than they were

racingdwarf
06-02-2008, 07:54 PM
rubber band wing mounts
crash back
one way rollers on the drive shafts
wheel hub disks
sealed belts
all would be nice to see again
but god hope the shocks are better than they were


:DYep they were... well a bit made in GT britain

GRIFF55
06-02-2008, 08:05 PM
I think it's got rubber band wing mounts from looking at the pic, crashback arms again would save a few quid:)

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 08:28 PM
:DYep they were... well a bit made in GT Britain

don't know about made in britian more made in British leyland lmao
sound weird bit I'm really looking forward to seeing what schuy can do again
back in the day if you didn't have schuy you weren't competitive

Southwell
06-02-2008, 08:33 PM
I think it's got rubber band wing mounts from looking at the pic, crashback arms again would save a few quid:)

Yep i saw them, they were awful!

Micha_MX4
06-02-2008, 08:33 PM
4+2 battery layout means: never lipo in this car :confused:

showtime
06-02-2008, 08:54 PM
maybe not but the car will be designed to have the weight of NiMh's where they are fitted ;)

i know you can add ballast etc but with more & more narrower chassis appearing there is less & less space to put it :eh?:

Chris Ashton
06-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Nice to see so much interest in our new car...you don't know how hard it's been to keep some of the features/spec under raps!!!

Looking forward to releasing more info shortly to see some more reaction.

Micha_MX4
06-02-2008, 09:09 PM
maybe not but the car will be designed to have the weight of NiMh's where they are fitted ;)

i know you can add ballast etc but with more & more narrower chassis appearing there is less & less space to put it :eh?:

but it IS a disadvantage, sorry but you can buy lipos that have the same weight as NiMh (maxamps 6000 mAh saddle f.e.) and you have the comfort of
using one pack over a racing weekend or - together with brushless motors -
endless running time...

I know you guys are crazy over every british car, I just wanted to say
that for a firm that actually wants to make money with selling these cars
(not "just" enthusiasts) and that means selling them to "bashers" too,
it's surprising for me that they go for such an layout.

I will never buy this car if I cannot run lipos in it, it's simple as this.
(I cannot run the 6000 maxamps saddle in my Yok BXF, not enough
space between topdeck and chassis and that sucks...)

BUT I'm really hoping that the amount of new 4wd buggies will push
4wd electric offroad in Germany...

showtime
06-02-2008, 09:24 PM
hey i'm not blindly patriotic at all (even tho my 4wd is a Pred :rolleyes:)
i like any company that can build a good car & will take an interest in their products. i like cars that are a little different/innovative etc & would like to see what they can come up with :)
my comments about the Lipos are relevant to any car thats been designed with saddle packs in mind.
maybe when cars are designed purely for Lipo's & possibly even for a lighter lower weight limit then that will be the way to go but for most of the cars we have now the addition of ballast could be problematic & certainly isn't ideal!
i dunno where you'd add weight into a Pred! not really enough room as it is :eh?:

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 09:26 PM
but it IS a disadvantage, sorry but you can buy lipos that have the same weight as NiMh (maxamps 6000 mAh saddle f.e.) and you have the comfort of
using one pack over a racing weekend or - together with brushless motors -
endless running time...

I know you guys are crazy over every british car, I just wanted to say
that for a firm that actually wants to make money with selling these cars
(not "just" enthusiasts) and that means selling them to "bashers" too,
it's surprising for me that they go for such an layout.

I will never buy this car if I cannot run lipos in it, it's simple as this.
(I cannot run the 6000 maxamps saddle in my Yok BXF, not enough
space between topdeck and chassis and that sucks...)

BUT I'm really hoping that the amount of new 4wd buggies will push
4wd electric offroad in Germany...

i think ull find the 2x3 layout is to gain maximum balance in a small area
not aimed at fun but serious racers that will run any layout as long as it better faster

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 09:27 PM
hey i'm not blindly patriotic at all (even tho my 4wd is a Pred )
hehe
you would have to be lol

showtime
06-02-2008, 09:34 PM
at least i owned up LOL :)


the time has long since passed when you would be proud to buy british:thumbdown:

(thats not just RC but most things in general)

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 09:41 PM
true, wonder why??
lets hope schuy are up to it then
if past history is owt to go buy they should kick ass

Micha_MX4
06-02-2008, 09:55 PM
i think ull find the 2x3 layout is to gain maximum balance in a small area
not aimed at fun but serious racers that will run any layout as long as it better faster

you didn't understand what I wrote... don't you know that the BX ist a saddle pack car? and I can put in saddle lipos...

But I don't want to argue with you, for me it's an disadvantage not to
be able to put lipos in it... if you think it's an advantage, that's fine.

still I'm eager to see pics of the car and I'm happy that there are so many new 4WD cars

some years ago there were hardly cars available

Lee
06-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Schumacher know that they will sell 95% of their cars in the UK so it is in their interest to build for the uk market. Lipos are not legal here for another 12mths minimum and schumacher also distribute lipos now so im sure they could have some made to fit if they really wanted too;)

MattW
06-02-2008, 11:00 PM
Don't assume anything!!! Have you seen it confirmed that it is 4+2 NiMh only and LiPo can't be fitted??

I'm not going to confirm any details either way, as like Chris has said details are being kept under wraps. Wait till things are announced, then all should become clear.:woot:

Anything is possible, there are people that have put stick pack LiPo's in xx4!!!

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 11:13 PM
true owww come on guys show us more we want more info
johny five needs info INFO
CANT WAIT TO SEE YOUR NEW CAR

jimmy
06-02-2008, 11:17 PM
As I said of course:
"We have heard some rumours of what's under that dark sleek silhouette:"

;)

MattW
06-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Absolutely Jimmy, guess everyone has to be patient!!!

I just find it funny when people make decisions and statements on un-confirmed info!!!

_JP_
06-02-2008, 11:21 PM
I spent many happy days racing a Cat XLS and Parma wide body Cat.

Cant wait to see the new car go.

Narrow now wide in 88/89? WHY?

Alfonzo
06-02-2008, 11:29 PM
Serpent & Schumacher in the same week! To quote the old Ferrero Roche tv advert - 'Ambassador, you are spoiling us!'

My guess is a double layshaft with the 'main belt' running way off the center line. Well done to all those at Schumacher for making this happen, as a designer myself I know how much hard work is involved, so congrats.

:thumbsup::)

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 11:31 PM
use to love ma cats back in the day

DaveG28
06-02-2008, 11:36 PM
Are they talking about a release in Mayish?

jimmy
06-02-2008, 11:39 PM
That's what they told Eoghain at redrc yeah

Lee
06-02-2008, 11:43 PM
Yes, may is correct, when i spoke to chris back in november about the car they had the CAD drawing all drawn up and they were getting prototypes together, now they obviously have a car and are testing it, once the design is finalised and weak parts identified things can be made fairly quickly and the only thing that holds up the company is other people who the work has been outsourced too.

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 11:44 PM
god may is leaving it close for us all to dig in for the out door season

jimmy
06-02-2008, 11:45 PM
better late than never though, and who'd have thought they would make a return at all.

DCM
06-02-2008, 11:48 PM
all I hope is they haven't just mde a twin deck XX4 or they haven't gone for a wild and whacky design either.

Just a nice simple design and one that will sty the same for 12 months lol.

DCM
06-02-2008, 11:48 PM
better late than never though, and who'd have thought they would make a return at all.

when does your Review one come then Jimmy?

jimmy
06-02-2008, 11:53 PM
hahahaha

ashleyb4
06-02-2008, 11:55 PM
Looks good even if it is a double decked xx4 it will be a winner :p

A

bigred5765
06-02-2008, 11:55 PM
ill buy the test bed of u when ur done jimmy

jimmy
06-02-2008, 11:57 PM
I'd better start saving I guess:lol:

Alfonzo
07-02-2008, 08:16 AM
Yeah, I better go and have a word with my bank manager, sorry - wife..;)

Lee
07-02-2008, 09:33 AM
Looks good even if it is a double decked xx4 it will be a winner :p

A


Are you sure its a double decked xx4?

It could be a tub or a have a chassis like the axis 2 :eh?:

Twister
07-02-2008, 09:53 AM
I love it! Enough said:wub

ashleyb4
07-02-2008, 10:03 AM
all I hope is they haven't just mde a twin deck XX4 or they haven't gone for a wild and whacky design either.

Just a nice simple design and one that will sty the same for 12 months lol.

I was just replying to DCM's post god knows what it is.

A

burgie
07-02-2008, 11:29 AM
available Spring 2008 on the schumacher website....i know of at least one Lazer that will for sale if the new cat accepts Lipos......

andys
07-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Fantastic news.

Can't wait to see it, who do i make the cheque payable to ?

gps3300
07-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Arrgggh, I hate the "crashback" Schumacher wing mounts. A wing costs, what 2 from J Concepts? Replacement O-rings cost that much alone and always break in the middle of a race so your wing flaps around.

What's the point ? :confused: I ended up bolting the wing on the in end.

BORMAC
08-02-2008, 09:15 AM
Finaly the almighty Schumacher makes a return (even though the worlds have been and gone-:confused:). Who doesn't have some kind of history with this company? I raced the CAT XLS back in its day and the car was just soo smooth to drive on my home track. It almost made it easy winning to be honest. Many people have been awaiting this cars arrival,with many also giving up on any hope of its return.Schumacher have been doing a great job on keeping this one under wraps too.
Ive bought,sold and traded a heap of the old cars now but still own more than 20 of the older cars.They really were top cars i there day with a definate racing pedigree about them.Even though I like my 501X I may have to grab one of the new cars regardless of its battery layout.Its funy how you hear racers who squable over cell layout.With lipo's still not legal here,Im happy to arrange my cells however the platform requires.Im sure during R&D the guys behind this car have developed this car to the best of its potential.Schumacher have had the 'rumoured' CAT 4000 under development for some time now,Im sure they have gotten it right rather than just dropping another car prematurely before the recent world's.

bondy
08-02-2008, 11:08 AM
Its completely different from the Cat4000! SO I have heard :eh?:

Finaly the almighty Schumacher makes a return (even though the worlds have been and gone-:confused:). Who doesn't have some kind of history with this company? I raced the CAT XLS back in its day and the car was just soo smooth to drive on my home track. It almost made it easy winning to be honest. Many people have been awaiting this cars arrival,with many also giving up on any hope of its return.Schumacher have been doing a great job on keeping this one under wraps too.
Ive bought,sold and traded a heap of the old cars now but still own more than 20 of the older cars.They really were top cars i there day with a definate racing pedigree about them.Even though I like my 501X I may have to grab one of the new cars regardless of its battery layout.Its funy how you hear racers who squable over cell layout.With lipo's still not legal here,Im happy to arrange my cells however the platform requires.Im sure during R&D the guys behind this car have developed this car to the best of its potential.Schumacher have had the 'rumoured' CAT 4000 under development for some time now,Im sure they have gotten it right rather than just dropping another car prematurely before the recent world's.

BORMAC
08-02-2008, 11:55 AM
The rumoured CAT4000 was a name people on the Schumacher forum had coined for the up and coming CAT a couple of years ago.Spy shots of what looked more like a CAT 2000 style chassis were floating about.The 4000 term was what enthusiasts were calling what could be the new car to come.

Mash Potato
08-02-2008, 12:16 PM
The rumoured CAT4000 was a name people on the Schumacher forum had coined for the up and coming CAT a couple of years ago.Spy shots of what looked more like a CAT 2000 style chassis were floating about.The 4000 term was what enthusiasts were calling what could be the new car to come.

The CAT 4000 was a prototype car, it was named the CAT 4000 by Schumacher. Although it didn't make it into production prototypes have been shown/raced.

Bluelock1
08-02-2008, 01:15 PM
Any pics of the car yet???

jbsmith1
08-02-2008, 08:14 PM
only this from rc-junkies...:lol:

mr. ed
09-02-2008, 03:51 PM
The CAT 4000 was a prototype car, it was named the CAT 4000 by Schumacher. Although it didn't make it into production prototypes have been shown/raced.
Just out of curiosity, are any pics of that online?

ben
09-02-2008, 03:56 PM
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cat4000/ hope this helps

mr. ed
10-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Thanks, Was that a new body on the S4000? I kinda like the old body style better than what can be awaited from that SX profile picture.

terry.sc
10-02-2008, 01:21 PM
No, the body on the CAT 4000 is the old CAT 2000 body. I suppose that makes it old style:lol:

mr. ed
11-02-2008, 01:29 AM
No, the body on the CAT 4000 is the old CAT 2000 body. I suppose that makes it old style:lol:

With 'old-style' I was referring to 'shumachers old style of buggy shells'.
The later ones like the firebkade were so cool.
I wonder if the shell designer is still the same person?

J_WOODY
11-02-2008, 08:32 AM
<hr style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> the new cat sx is listed on apex models website .... 350 or 332.50 with online discount.

Numbers are limited from the first batch, pre-order to secure your car. 50 deposit will be charged.

• All new unique drive system where the spur rotates in the same direction as the tyres.
• Three belt transmission, with adjustable internal ratio.
• 4/2 cell or one side LiPo battery configuration.
• Upright shock design.
• Pin drive Rev Lite wheels front and rear, with hex adapters for fitment of Losi style front wheels.
• All new design and parts throughout, only ball links and the wing mount remain the same.

bender
11-02-2008, 12:08 PM
• All new unique drive system where the spur rotates in the same direction as the tyres.


:eh?: Isn't that the same for all belt drive 4wds?

jimmy
11-02-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm trying to think of one that doesn't :eh?: hmm.
Is this schumacher blurb or shop words?

J_WOODY
11-02-2008, 12:23 PM
I'm trying to think of one that doesn't :eh?: hmm.
Is this schumacher blurb or shop words?
i got that info off apex's website, it doesn't sound right to me either, all my cars spur gears rotate in the same direction as the wheels,

bigred5765
11-02-2008, 12:27 PM
unless its a stab at shaft drives of course
this interests me
Three belt transmission, with adjustable internal ratio.

jimmy
11-02-2008, 12:32 PM
ah, bit of a funny way of saying they believe belts are better

Northy
11-02-2008, 12:35 PM
this interests me
Three belt transmission, with adjustable internal ratio.

Like you X-5 Carl? That you can change the belts/pullies on? :confused:

The Spur rotates the same direction as the tyres on my ProCat, so do the wheels! :lol:

G

Oliv996
11-02-2008, 12:36 PM
I heard about a secret varibelt system ??!???!????

Mooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahah ahahahahahaha !!!

minimini
27-02-2008, 04:20 PM
really wanna know if the drive-train is sealed or not.........

jimmy
27-02-2008, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't have thought so, I'd guess it would have an undertray etc - but not a fully enclosed drivetrain.

Cruise
27-02-2008, 04:57 PM
really wanna know if the drive chain is sealed or not.........


Answer Tommorrow.:D

Cruise

bigred5765
27-02-2008, 05:00 PM
why tomorrow
whats wrong with NOW

Cruise
27-02-2008, 05:02 PM
Less fun:p

Oliv996
27-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Yes, with Cruise we used to have one day one clue !!!

DCM
27-02-2008, 06:51 PM
if they had the motor turning in the same direction of the wheels, that might do something funky to the handling, as the rotation would oppose the squatting motion but that would need a layshaft driving a pair of idler gears (wtf....) or is this schumacher trying to re-invent the wheel?

Body Paint
27-02-2008, 07:26 PM
I heard about a secret varibelt system ??!???!????

Mooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahah ahahahahahaha !!!

Like the Trabant... that would make me PMSL

Oliv996
27-02-2008, 07:30 PM
Like the Trabant... that would make me PMSL

Yes Craig !!! and like moped also....

What do you mean with PMSL (sorry for my poor English understanding) ?

Olivier

bigred5765
27-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Piss My Self Laughing

elvo
27-02-2008, 08:13 PM
Like the Trabant... that would make me PMSL


Oy! No making fun of the Trabi please. It's the only car that's as fast in reverse as it is in forward gear. They used to race these on an oval ... .. .backwards! :woot:

Besides, I believe Audi revived the vari-push-belt technology and use it on their excellent line of automatic gearboxes....

Body Paint
27-02-2008, 08:17 PM
The Fireblade was known as the "Allegro" (crap English car)... surely the Cat SX wont end up being called the "Trabant" I just refuse to beleive it

elvo
27-02-2008, 08:35 PM
(crap English car)...

:confused: Well that's not very specific is it... :eh?:

Body Paint
27-02-2008, 11:46 PM
http://www.slowcarclub.com/santapod-07/mini-allegro.jpg
The AUSTIN ALLEGRO

This image was taken from www.slowcarclub.com (http://www.slowcarclub.com) says it all really, LOL

jimmy
28-02-2008, 12:24 AM
we had a brown allegro with gold twin stripes down the side too - mad

big air
28-02-2008, 12:38 AM
cool cars are not always fast, dont nok em!!!:thumbdown:, 60's 70's 80's and some 90's cars are the nuts :thumbsup:

rcracer
28-02-2008, 12:39 AM
i had a allegro and hand painted it black :D it was pretty fast and kept up with all the mk1 escorts :thumbsup:

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 05:48 AM
Oy! No making fun of the Trabi please. It's the only car that's as fast in reverse as it is in forward gear. They used to race these on an oval ... .. .backwards! :woot:

Besides, I believe Audi revived the vari-push-belt technology and use it on their excellent line of automatic gearboxes....

That was the DAF with the belt gearbox. You just changed the size of the pulleys to change gear with a sliding lever. Intensely cool to be able to do 100kmh in reverse (theoretically :woot:)
Trabbis were just nasty two-strokes without a fuel gauge. You have to measure how much petrol you still have with a stick...

Here's how the DAF box worked http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/DAF_Hinterachsantrieb.jpg

What a suave car for the discerning gentleman

http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2006/11/dafs.jpg


Sorry, just noticed this was violently off-topic but I was half-asleep when I read DAF somewhere :blush:

Richard Lowe
28-02-2008, 09:02 AM
if they had the motor turning in the same direction of the wheels, that might do something funky to the handling, as the rotation would oppose the squatting motion
No it'd do the opposite, same as the 4 gear gearbox in the mid-motor 2wd's it would increase the effect ;)

elvo
28-02-2008, 09:40 AM
Sh!t, you're right Sparrow. My apologies for mixing up these two icons of German transportation...

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 09:55 AM
Sh!t, you're right Sparrow. My apologies for mixing up these two icons of German transportation...


No offence taken ;) It takes a belgian to want to race one backwards though :woot:

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 07:15 PM
No offence taken ;) It takes a belgian to want to race one backwards though :woot:

That was my fault, I steered Elvo down the wrong road... ooops!

Mr Sparrow, you are spot on, Daf 55. I am a master of taking thread way off topic, it's what comes from random thoughts :lol:

elvo
28-02-2008, 08:59 PM
That was my fault, I steered Elvo down the wrong road... ooops!

Mr Sparrow, you are spot on, Daf 55. I am a master of taking thread way off topic, it's what comes from random thoughts :lol:


I couldn't find the backwards oval racing, but here is a clip of the Trabi versus the DAF backwards :woot::woot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgT2hnxDH4&feature=related (4:20)


Hijacking threads and random posting are both fine arts of the digital age :lol:

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 09:11 PM
I couldn't find the backwards oval racing, but here is a clip of the Trabi versus the DAF backwards :woot::woot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgT2hnxDH4&feature=related (4:20)


Hijacking threads and random posting are both fine arts of the digital age :lol:

now that is random LMFAO

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 09:45 PM
That is actually a very popular TV show here in Germany about four brothers who own and run a scrapyard....

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 09:49 PM
They look very excitable:lol:

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 09:55 PM
seriously, they are a good example for why inbreeding isn't a good idea...

If they were in the UK they'd be welsh :woot:

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 10:01 PM
OK, that does it, I'm going to open my book of German insults now :p

GRIFF55
28-02-2008, 10:15 PM
Get in line mate!!:o:p

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 10:18 PM
Am I glad to be British at times :p

Well, half :)

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 10:32 PM
In that case I choose this one "Deine mutter hat haarige arschbacken" hehehe

GRIFF55
28-02-2008, 10:40 PM
best not

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 10:40 PM
In that case I choose this one "Deine mutter hat haarige arschbacken" hehehe


Gross but funny :lol:

let's not start yo momma jokes... This thread is really deteriorating :woot:

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 10:42 PM
Anyways, back to Cat SX's

Cruise knows more than he's letting on in the other thread...

Body Paint
28-02-2008, 10:43 PM
LOL, OK, just don't dis the motherland :thumbsup::lol:

GRIFF55
28-02-2008, 10:45 PM
Public of course!!:lol:
Now then what's this cat like??:wub

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 10:48 PM
LOL, OK, just don't dis the motherland :thumbsup::lol:


Course not! I'm just sort of stuck over here... Racings fun though :lol:

mes
29-02-2008, 01:38 PM
Let me throw in a bit I read in another forum:

rear motor

jimmy
29-02-2008, 01:41 PM
I think that other forum might be a crack smoking forum? :lol:

Southwell
29-02-2008, 01:43 PM
catsoncrack.com?

mes
29-02-2008, 05:33 PM
No, honestly!
In the (Austrian?) forum www.offroad-cult.org (http://www.offroad-cult.org) somebody who claimed to have seen the Cat and talked to the Schumacher guys at the Toy Fair mentioned that the motor was "in the rear" ; maybe it just means that it is behind the battery...:eh?:

He also claimed that the chassis was a modular type and that no option parts whatsoever were needed...

? One-way in the box ?

DCM
29-02-2008, 06:04 PM
from the pics, the motor looks to be in the same place as the 501X, or they have just put a misleading bodyshell on it.

MattW
29-02-2008, 06:17 PM
The body shell seen in the siloette pics is the one currently running on the car.

HVAC25000
29-02-2008, 08:34 PM
So did we rule out the same design as the Team Magic E4 or is that still a possible config? 3 belts, rear motor, the 4x2 pack doesn't seem right but stick would. :confused:

RogerM
01-03-2008, 10:01 AM
Motor in the rear .... interesting ..... where it should be IMHO

elvo
01-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Motor in the rear .... interesting ..... where it should be IMHO
if it's spinning the same way as the wheels: indeed.

I do wonder what a 2.2:1 internal ratio is good for...

Chrislong
01-03-2008, 12:01 PM
[QUOTE=Oliv996;92991]I heard about a secret varibelt system ??!???!????

QUOTE]

My Pillardrill has this...

bigred5765
01-03-2008, 03:28 PM
[QUOTE=Oliv996;92991]I heard about a secret varibelt system ??!???!????

QUOTE]

My Pillardrill has this...

So was the daf variamatic

Welshy40
01-03-2008, 06:50 PM
Motor in the rear .... interesting ..... where it should be IMHO

Well the procats had the motor in the rear, and those cars won the major events, so lets hope they design another good car. Pity they havent posted a picture, as if they did I might have bought it if it looked the business, but as they havent and decided to do a stupid marketing tactic I have gone and bought something else.

minimini
01-03-2008, 06:55 PM
I think Schumacher always like to play this "secret tricks".........still remember at the time of the TopCat released........same story........using a cloth to cover up almost 80% of the car........can see the rear part only........:D......keep secret always......