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Sumilidon
02-10-2011, 11:19 PM
Ansmann ARE-2 Review

Hello everyone,

I figured that I would write a quick review of the Ansmann ARE-2 - from the perspective of a newbie starting out. I cannot find any real reviews of the car online and hopefully anyone looking to get one will find it useful..

To give a back story, I returned to 1/10 touring cars after some 10 years. Previously I was racing casually with my bother, I drove the car, but never tweaked or set the thing up.

I am now using an MI2 mostly, with the Ansmann ARE-2 as my backup car as I have a tendancy to break parts of the cars I drive. I am still extremely new, and I am no expert in any way. I also own an Xray T2 009.

So, a quick overview:

Pros:

Cheap to buy (£35 from eBay for the kit only!)
Cheap parts
Robust - can take a good whack, nice wide bumper and built like a tank.
Comes as standard with bearings and oil filled shocks.
Shaft driven transmission and encased gears add to the robustness.


Cons:

Turning ability is limited
Gear differentials are extremely noisy (please do not under-estimate the noise they make)
Spur gear is vulnerable to low turn motors
Very little adjustment available



Opening the box:
First thing first, the instructions are horrendous! The screws are all Phillips head and if you can afford it, try and find an after market set that will utilize a hex-head instead, the screws can round off very easily!

The kit comes with the gear differentials pre-built and require very little maintenance in the long run, and although some say it will take 20 minutes, it took me 2 days to build the kit entirely.

Very important to remember that the kit comes with some brass spheres with a hole in them (they allow for adjustable arms to move and push-fit on) - however they are not all the same size - the 2 that form the rear camber links are bigger - just enough to cause a problem as you get to them last!

Setting up the electrics:
The motor is encased, and should be added as part of the assembly process above as you have to remove to top brace, battery pivot and the gear casing before you can remove the motor mount and ultimately the motor. To put this in contrast to my MI2, I put my hex driver into the side of the car, unscrew 2 bolts and the engine is loose.

This of course is not a problem unless you switch motors often, which you will probably not do.

The car does not come with a servo saver, or a bolt to connect it. Given the resistance that the steering offers, you should definitely invest in one.
The chassis provides plenty of space for the ESC, receiver and the battery holder is ideal for both NIMH and Lipo batteries. I personally use lipo saddles side by side and there is enough space for them!

Driving the car:
If you didn't believe me about the noise - now you will hear what I mean. The car sounds like it is ripping itself apart. That said, it is capable of doing a really good speed and although it's ability to turn is not ideal, the limit it has is actually beneficial to newer drivers as it allows the driver less opportunity for accidental over-steer, by the over-zealous use of the steering controls.

Again the steering causes additional problems in the fact that it can hold a certain offset. By this I mean, I turn left, the car rears left slightly when I stop turning - when turning right, the car rears right slightly when I stop turning. Keep this in mind when buying a servo as a good amount of strength would help overcome this.

Negatives aside however, the car responds well and you will quickly gain the touch on how best to drive it. The robustness that I referred to earlier will become particularly apparent here. My MI2 has a steering hub and a C-Hub, both prone to damage from a good hit. The Ansmann has a singular hub made from quite a soft piece of plastic . This is a substantial thickness and the softer nature allows it to absorb impact well.

As for adjustments, there are a few holes for the suspension, and you can adjust all the usual, but not to the level as an Xray T3 for example - but that's one of the many reasons why the Ansmann costs 8 to 10 times less.

Overall:
What can I say in summary of the car? I like it. For a person starting out, this hobby can get extremely expensive, extremely fast. Car, motor, esc, transmitter and receiver, batteries, charger, spares, tools etc - they all add up. As such, a chassis that can take a beating while you learn to drive, build your reflexes and ultimately serve as a backup car when you move on will always prove invaluable.

The steering is limited and on very tight, technical tracks, you will struggle. Everything else, the steering is sufficient.

One major recommendation from me is for the prop shaft link to the rear differential to have a very basic amendment. This is ultimately connected by a pin held in by a grub screw. This worked loose on mine after 2 races and disabled the front drive. I cut a thin strip of duct tape and wrap it around the 2 holes the pin sits between. This way if the grub screw fails, the pin will not fly free and you will not lose control.

Also make sure you limit your servo via your handset - the steering as said is limited, and if your servo is not also limited - it could cause damage to either the steering, or the servo itself.

The kit on ebay that I got did not come with wheels or a shell. From what I hear, the ARE-2 default shell is brittle, and what use are wheels if they are unsuitable for the surface you race on? Check with your local club what they use, and a flexible pre-painted shell to start with go for about £12 online and can take a beating. Do this, and you'll have a superb car to start with.

Sumilidon
16-10-2011, 01:58 PM
Just a quick update on the ARE-2.

I mentioned a lot about the steering being poor, as well as numerous threads about this online. A bit of tinkering, I found the problem.

The steering assembly has a bar at the bottom that links both sides together - if you put this on the wrong way round, it makes a big difference in the sense it causes the problems listed above.

This appears to be a common mistake, which is probably due to the horrendous manual instructions.

As such, ensure that during assembly, the plastic bar has the ounded corners facing the rear of the car, not the front.

Aidan83
21-11-2011, 04:30 PM
Hi Sumilidon,

This is a great review on the Ansmann ARE-2. Like you I'd been looking for some info on it for a while to no avail, so this is a great help. I've been looking at getting one to build up as I quite like the idea of it having all the adjustable bits on it already, as opposed to my ancient Tamiya TL01, which has cost me an arm and a leg over the years just to get it raceworthy. I do like racing with an 'underdog' car though :)

What I wanted to ask you was, does the Ansmann suffer much from grip roll on a carpet track? As far as I'm aware there are no roll bars available for this model and if its just going to flip over at the corners then I'd probably have to give it a miss. The reason I ask is my Tamiya rolled at every corner prior to installing roll bars.

The other thing was, what are the gearing options on this car and how easy (hard) is it to swap out the pinions?

Kind Regards,

Aidan

BeachBuggyPhil
21-11-2011, 05:07 PM
I found it annoying to change the pinion and the spur is a mission.
There is loads of flex where the motor mount attaches to the chassis as well so setting the mesh is hit or miss.
I cured initial grip roll by moving the shock mounts but the noise of the metal gears becomes embarrassing and sticking a big motor in stripped the cheap spur.
The pinion it came with didn't appear to be round either.
I'm now going to stick cheap rally wheels on it, a silver can motor and cheap ESC in it and let a 7 year old learn to drive round the farm with it!!
Have you looked at the maverick strada or LRP Blast?

Aidan83
22-11-2011, 06:36 PM
I actually have a Strada that I bought cheap off ebay. Again the pinion and spur are a real pain to remove. I've also had massive problems with the diffs binding and am fed up buying new parts to try and fix them.

Managed to run it round the track at my local club last week and it was actually quite nice to drive, only tested it on a silver can mind you.

I was just looking for something new to build and possibly take over as my club racer. As this kit is so cheap it fitted quite nicely in to my budget...which is not a lot lol.

Have just seen the LRP Blast and I have to say it looks very impressive for the money, good range of adjustments etc. My only qualms would be that I cant seem to find a stockist in the UK and spare parts might be difficult to come by. Are there any suppliers local to myself you are aware of?

Many thanks!

BeachBuggyPhil
22-11-2011, 11:49 PM
I've no idea at all. I'm just going to rally mine until it dies.
Lesson learned.

You might be better off buying a 2nd hand top quality car using the price of spares to decide in what to get.
I got a Corally cheap, broke it and discovered the spares are dear.
Good luck either way.

littlesten
07-03-2012, 06:31 PM
Hey i bought this car awhile ago and for me its been immense steering was great, it was cheap and it was invinsible untill my reciever broke and it went 70mph through a car park into a Gala Bingo wall :( even then all the broke was the front bumper a nice £5.99 bumper kit from ebay fixed. All in all ive spent under £200 to get it to 70+mph, which to me is great :)


the only problem i had was the shell, although it was so tuff! and i mean so tough (when i jumped it 6ft onto the air off a speed bump all that broke was 1/4 of the spoiler ... yes this was accidental) the way its made has an effect on the steering and at high speeds ... well its pretty bad, but a new £10 shell fixes that :)


just thought id give my input.

Aidan83
20-03-2012, 08:30 PM
Hey man,

Thanks for the input! I picked one up 2nd hand in the end for £17. Still finding bits and pieces to get it roadworthy, so I'm glad someone else has had good experiences with it. Its certainly a very neat looking chassis, shame its been discontinued...though I'm told by Ansmann there's a brand new chassis due out soon, if not already! This was a while ago ;)

I know there is a lot of concern surrounding the noisy gears, but to be honest, my Tamiya TL01 is pretty loud anyway. Be interesting to see what the difference is!

In the mean time I'll get the neccessary screw kits I need and finish this beast off :)