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c0sie
18-02-2008, 01:47 PM
Ive killed a set of Schumacher yellow mini pins after 2 meetings indoors.
Admittedly, my heavy throttle finger doesnt help matters...but can anyone recommend any Schumacher or Ballistic Buggy tyres that will work well indoors on mixed surface but that will also offer a decent wear rate?

Thanks in advance :)

ashleyb4
18-02-2008, 01:50 PM
There arent many tyres that will offer a much higher wear rate you could try schuamcher mini spikes they would proberly last slightly longer but there a bit slower. Yellow pins are the best all rounders for performance and wear rate.

A

_sleigh_
18-02-2008, 01:52 PM
Depending on the surface you've been running on, I'd say that 2 meetings worth of wear is pretty good. Normally with Mini-Pins on a multi surface (Wood/Carpet/Jumps/Mats) one meeting from a set is par for the course.

It's unlikely you'll get the same consistent levels of grip from any other tyre, apart from maybe a Sch. Yellow Mini-spike on a mostly carpet track. But again these will have a similar wear level.

dan_kitty
18-02-2008, 01:56 PM
has anyone tried the grp spikes for indoor? what are they like?

also i noticed balistic buggy do a blue compound, are these of any use over here?

ta

jim76
18-02-2008, 02:30 PM
i used the BB blue spike on a local astro track and they were awesome. THat was a fairly long pile astro though, bit longer than most that we come across.

Kecky
18-02-2008, 02:37 PM
I've just completed the Southport GP (carpet & tarpauling), Durham Regional (carpet, gym mats and wooden floor) & the Bately Supercup (carpet, gym mats and wooden floor), on one set of shumacher mini pins on a B4.

The rears were fairly well worn by the 3rd round of qualifying, but lasted out ok. The fronts obviously have planty left on them.

As these were my first indoor meetings, it was a bit of a learning curve as to how long they would last.

I think in future i will change the rears every 2 meetings and the fronts maybe every 4.

I am a little heavy on the throttle at the moment, so that may have contributed to the wear rate too.

c0sie
18-02-2008, 02:39 PM
Which are the softer BB compound? Pink or green?

Lee
18-02-2008, 02:41 PM
Pink, they feel very rubbery too:eh?:

Chris Green
18-02-2008, 02:59 PM
I've just completed the Southport GP (carpet & tarpauling), Durham Regional (carpet, gym mats and wooden floor) & the Bately Supercup (carpet, gym mats and wooden floor), on one set of shumacher mini pins on a B4.

The rears were fairly well worn by the 3rd round of qualifying, but lasted out ok. The fronts obviously have planty left on them.

As these were my first indoor meetings, it was a bit of a learning curve as to how long they would last.

I think in future i will change the rears every 2 meetings and the fronts maybe every 4.

I am a little heavy on the throttle at the moment, so that may have contributed to the wear rate too.

What motor were you running Kecky?

I'm ran my B4 for about 5 or 6 meetings now, and my yellow mini pins still have loads of life left in them.

however, that was with a 10.5. Which has now been swapped for a 6.5L! wahey!
But I don't expect the tyres to wear quite so well.

markwilliamson2001
18-02-2008, 03:33 PM
I found tyre wear was very dependant on track surface and carpet age/type. At newbury, my tyres wore much quicker than at Dudley for example. Also polished/slippery sections are also different. Polished wood is very easy on tyres, but others wear tyres quickly. I still think that yellow minipins are very good tyres, and last well!

Kecky
18-02-2008, 03:36 PM
Chris
One meeting was with a Reedy Ti 12x3 and two meetings with an axiom 19T.
The pins must be 3/4 worn down.
I think one problem may be a couple of my packs of batteries seem a lot 'punchier' than a couple of others, so i've sort of compromised with the adjustment of my slipper, plus the southport GP was mainly carpet.

How far do you let the pins wear down before changing them?

markwilliamson2001
18-02-2008, 03:38 PM
I let them become flat 'bumps' but still a pattern on the tyre then change them. You will still have reasonable grip on carpet with them, because the compound works rather than the tread pattern.

Kecky
18-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Right, so as long as there is a texture so to speak on the tyre it is still useable (within reason), that should give me another meeting or too then.
They did still have a point to them before the supercup, so i rotated them, to try and even out the wear.
Cheers.

xx4-nutter
18-02-2008, 04:14 PM
i run Shuey micro spikes at the supercup they was ace ! :D

b4rs
18-02-2008, 04:18 PM
i jus run mine till they stop gripping or til they are bare. you will have at least another couple of meetings left in em!

Nick Goodall
18-02-2008, 04:51 PM
The worn ones do start to go off a tad when you're on a lot of Carpet, but as myself, Paul and Lloyd found at the last Newbury meet that new ones can be AWFUL on the slippery stuff, they seem to bed in after about 4 mins but we all pretty much wrote that run off as soon as we tried the cars in practise - it was like ice skating on the slippery bits, while good fun it doesn't really get you anywhere :lol:

telboy
18-02-2008, 05:00 PM
What about Schu mini pins but in a green compound? do they do one?

Same tyre, just a little harder if its mainly carpet.

RogerM
18-02-2008, 05:07 PM
Chris, 2 meetings out of a set of pins is good going to be honest.

super__dan
18-02-2008, 05:15 PM
Greens will likely wear faster on carpet than yellows like they do on tarmac/concrete IMHO. Oh and be rubbish.

As said before wear rates can be massivly different indoors and tyres can still give good grip when visually worn i.e. york you want near spankers, Worksop they can be literally slick and still work. Change when you feel they go off.

telboy
18-02-2008, 05:32 PM
Realy?:o Blimey. Is that because they will slide around more? and not have the same physical grip of the yellows?

JCJC
18-02-2008, 05:42 PM
I believe the Shui Greens & Yellows are of a different rubber compound, green may be harder but yellow last longer :confused:.

markwilliamson2001
18-02-2008, 07:28 PM
Green are a natural rubber compound, yellow is synthetic. I always found schumey green's to be a slightly odd compound, and have a very narrow window of use. In this window however, nothing can touch them!

M

super__dan
18-02-2008, 07:35 PM
Agree with Mark, they are different, it's not like a sliding scale. Personally on Grass I prefer a BB most of the time, but on a multisurface track the Schumacher greens often work much better (for one run on the rears :( )

Lindsay
18-02-2008, 08:03 PM
What about Schu mini pins but in a green compound? do they do one?

Same tyre, just a little harder if its mainly carpet.

Telboy,
If you fancy giving Green Mini Pins a run on Sunday I will fetch you a set as I have a Box Full.

telboy
18-02-2008, 10:18 PM
Haha.....erm, no.:lol:

Then again, I think thats what I used to run at worksop all those years ago......maybe thats why I didn't do so well.:eh?:



Thanks for the offer though.:thumbsup::lol:

ashleyb4
18-02-2008, 10:48 PM
I ran schumacher greens in the rear of my cr a sits the only one si could find with yellow fronts and my fronts are wrecked by the rears are not as bad as the fronts. And they gave me good grip to.

A