RC set needed.

[sunbeam]

Hi,

I've had an Etronics Pulse tx and RX for about 6 months and during the last two meetings I've started to get RC problems. In the first case the RC decided to just stop for about 30 seconds in one race and last night I had two split second black outs, one resulted in a small crash. No damage has resulted so far but what if it happens at the end of the straight :thumbdown:

So, I need to buy a new stick set. My first thought was another Futaba 3GR. I used one for a bit a few years ago, but oddly I had some black out's with that as well. That was a totally different car and set up?

I've tried to look at stick sets in the shops but I never seem to see in the shops what I see at the track. So there must be lots of other stick sets out there that I know nothing about.

Any sugestions for a reliable stick set?
Also has anybody had problems with there Etronic Pulse ?

Thanks.


Hi All,

I posted this in the main electrics section on here, but the miserable gits can't be bothered to reply :thumbdown:

So do any of my nice club members know of a GOOD TX and RX 2.4 set ?

Rob :)

[Belsten]

I run the Sanwa Exzes X that has built in 2.4
Its been very reliable for me touch wood

[mattybucks]

I responded, to be honest your heading is crap. It should of read something like "New Stick TX recommendations" or "what stick TX would you recommend"?

Anyway, what's you budget?

[sunbeam]

Thank you Mattybucks for replying, it's a pitty others didn't, crap title or not.

Daves Sanwa seems to be about £380 or more. That's a huge amount of cash to shell out for such a low channel number TX. Sanwa do a 10channel 2.4 for heli's etc for only £430, Cant see why a 2-4 channel is £380 ??

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk/p1928/Sanwa_SD-10G_2.4GHz_Radio_10ch_RX_Combo/product_info.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=xigen_shopping_feed

For flying heli's, I have a JR 9XII 2.4 9 channel. That's a TOP END TX and only cost me about £500 new ! So even half that seems steep for a 2 channel.

My budget is nothing really as I'll have to find the money form somewhere. So as the recomendations come in, I'll have to look at them one by one and see if I can get the money together. At a push, I'll strech to a new 3GR, but as I said, I've had problems with them also.

I've just looked at the Ripmax site. Why can you get about 5 6ch 2.4 TX's for about £150, yet the 3ch is over £200? Seems to be some ripping off here ??

[hit5005]

rob my recerver was playing up with my Etronics Pulse iv got the futaba t3vcs and its the dogs u could get a 2nd hand one
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[chris-on-wheels]

Rob, Steve Axeman Had his K.O 2.4 up for sale. I don't know if he's sold it yet thou?

[sunbeam]

Thanks for that Chris, Steve and I have a little deal going on at the moment, so there maybe a deal that can be done if he still has it ;)

[Jamie.T]

I have a KO esprit 3 on 2.4ghz with 2 receivers for sale. £230 delivered to Caldicott.

[chris-on-wheels]

That's good to hear Rob. Cus if you do buy Steve's K.O. It'll be a good buy as he really looks after his stuff and it'll be in good condition and plus it's got yellow stickers on it!!! And we all know you love Yellow.

[sunbeam]

Oh my Thomj316, you have a cheek :o

After the way you spoke to me on the Durango side, I'd give up RC car racing before I bought ANYTHING from you !

You will notice I made this post public, just for you !

"Sorry if i seem harsh" back at you ! :mad:

[Jamie.T]

Ok Rob, im not gonna make you buy anything. Only offering that's all.

p.s, my name is Jamie Thomas, most of the guys at Caldi know me and im tidy enough.

However i wont tolerate snotty p.m's like the one in which you sent me. I gave genuine advise in which i got a crappy response to, you admitted you'd had a stressful day searching for a 210 but venting it on me through p.m wasn't a good idea.

Im not going to hold a grudge against you, im sure ill see you at Caldicott on my next visit or perhaps you might come down to Swansea's WRCA round next month. Catch you soon anyway.

[sunbeam]

Not wanting to blow this up into a stupid forum bust up, but at no point did I say I had a stressful day. I don't get stressed about looking for a model car. Thank you for your offer anyway.

[Balders]

:wub

[GRIFF55]

I have the Sanwa like belsten, top bit of kit, very happy:D
You can't really go wrong with the ko esprit 2R or 3, futaba 3Vc/ vcs or the sanwa's;)

[axeman]

My KO 3 is not for for sale as it has andy griffs lucky man glue on it.

I have matt williams ko espirit 2 here for sale it is mint and he's after a £100 for it.

[jaffacake]

I've run a Futaba 3gr for the last three years in both 1/10th & nitro with absolutely no issues,although the receivers are a bit big if space is an issue,also the receivers are now just over £100 (in the UK) something to bare in mind if you run a 2nd car
They do come up for sale occasionally 2nd hand for around £100-£120 (handset & receiver)

[sunbeam]

It's all money money money, but I have been told I may solve my problem with a power cap. I have bought two (no need to pull yours out now Pete, thanks anyway) in the hope it fixes the brown outs.

Fingers crossed.

[millzy]

Hi Rob,

I run the same handset as you, I had the old black receiver system for over 8months and I have had two issues, the first being a black out last week as I mounted the receiver on its side in the 22 - The shock from landing the car off the cross over caused the revived to fail due to it not being well supported and being bashed ablut, The second being a glitch at Cobra club championship as i snapped the internal wire twisting the main areal like an animal.

Due two the second issue I sent it back to CML and got a replacement blue receiver unit,I think for the money its a brilliant system

James and I both run the same unit across a rang of cars and we don't run a power cap if that's any help

[sunbeam]

Thanks for that Millzy :)

I don't think it's a mounting issue as the RX is always mounted flat to the chassis. It is a bit of a pain getting the wire into the 210's arial mount, so that may have damaged the wire, BUT, I was getting the same problems in the Cougar the other week, so it can't be a damaged wire. The wire mounting in the cougar is easy, so I doubt it was damaged fitting it to the Cougar.

I just don't know. All my hopes are on this power cap, otherwise I'm buying the Sanwa Exzes X like Dave's.

It's the blue RX I've got. I know Huw and Rich have had problems with is set.

[peetbee]

My KO 3 is not for for sale as it has andy griffs lucky man glue on it.


Off topic, but eurgh, he could have cleaned it before selling it to you!

[Teaboy]

I was having the same problem, it was a bit like the old days of 27mghz interfearence where the car did its own thing. I have just bought a KO Esprit 3 with the 2.4 conversion, so i hope this solves the problems. I was using the blue recievers and the problem still remained.

Cheers

Rich

[millzy]

Thanks for that Millzy :)

I don't think it's a mounting issue as the RX is always mounted flat to the chassis. It is a bit of a pain getting the wire into the 210's arial mount, so that may have damaged the wire, BUT, I was getting the same problems in the Cougar the other week, so it can't be a damaged wire. The wire mounting in the cougar is easy, so I doubt it was damaged fitting it to the Cougar.

I just don't know. All my hopes are on this power cap, otherwise I'm buying the Sanwa Exzes X like Dave's.

It's the blue RX I've got. I know Huw and Rich have had problems with is set.

Silly question, but have you tested a diffrent recived?
and have you tried resetting the binding

[sunbeam]

I've not tried anything really :blush:

The problem with trying another RX is that I've got to buy one, or find somebody to borrow one from for a few weeks.

Rebinding would be a good idea :)

I rang CML today asking about the problem. They said they had never heard of it on this set, but they would ring me back. They did, but when I was out. I have a message to ring them tomorrow.

I'm thinking that the Sanwa is to much money. If Alisha needs a new set as well, I may have to go for two Futaba 3GR's ! Maybe Paul would do me a deal ???

[millzy]

come see me Friday, between James and I'm sure we have one you can lend for a night or so to test. just let me know what receiver you have (blue new version or black old version) and i will make sure i have it with me

I had a 3gr and had nothing but issues with it- personally i would look out for a second hand futaba 3vc with 2.4 spectrum or a second hand Sanwa Super exez with a 2.4 spectrum

[sunbeam]

Thank you for that kind offer Millzy :thumbsup:

Unfortunatly, I'll not be there this week :cry: I've got to be in Devon with a mate. But I WILL be there the week after.

Maybe I can borrow the blue RX then ?

I'll report back with what CML say tomorrow.

As for the 3GR, I to have had problems with it when I was last at Caldicot a few years ago. I hoped I was the only one. So maybe, it will have to be a new Sanwa if needed.

Good luck with the DEX210 Rich. I don't know much about the set-up yet, but mine was fantastic last week. So if you need any pointers for Friday on the way mine is set-up, catch me before 9am this Friday morning :thumbsup:

All the best. :)

[JACKOR33]

Rob,

As i said on the other thread i've percivered with the etronix

I had the later Etronix fhss setup with 3 blue receivers and tried every option to get round problems

Its definatley an issue with the radio gear as i tried:
3 different speedos
5 different motors
4 different vehicles
3 different servos
2 different power caps
earth strap in cars
different batteries

I also had a number of replacement tx and rx's from cml still eventually causing me problems

Now i'm sure that there is a link to the knocks and bangs the receivers take in off road vehicles as i had the least amount of problems with the one fitted in my touring car:thumbdown:

Now i have rock steady control with a 2nd hand £120 Futaba 3GR 2.4 Fasst and glad i made the change!!!

[sunbeam]

Thank you for that JackoR33

Spencer was over today to collect some bits and he gave me your contact here on Oople. He told me that you had had problems as well. I was going to send you a PM, but you beat me to it.

So the Etronics is crap, I would tend to agree with you.

Don't know what CML will say tomorrow ?

I can feel my bank account emptying as I type :(

Ho Hum :thumbdown:

[jaysllim]

check the voltage on ur tranny coz wen mine was low voltage it would dowhat urs soumds like its doing,wer it cuts out nd then couple of sec later comes bk but other than that i havent had n e problems even with a reciverwitch had the bockvasing broken in half wer dad was a bit hand fisted with a srew driver tryingto lever it out of his rock crawler lol

[sunbeam]

Batteries are fully charged at all times and even swapped for a fresh set of Energizer's. Same problem. I think it's just a rubbish set as others have hinted at.

[Dyna]

You want to try some 40 mhz sets Rob. Cheap as chips, huge choice, reliable, no problems and i havent changed crystals since i started back racing 3 years ago...

40 mhz - Its the way forward :lol:

[GRIFF55]

Can't really go wrong with 27 or 40 MHz now as most run 2.4 you would hardly ever clash. 2.4 does make solo racing that bit easier:thumbsup:

[sunbeam]

40 meg is tempting, but I like the idea of turning on in the pits to fiddle with my ESC :thumbsup:

I also like the piece of mind knowing I'm not going to have problems with outher drivers. We've seen it all before. A shout "Who's on ......," as their car does something it was not meant to do. With 2.4, you can ignor them :)

However, if you have 40 meg, and you find the driver that turned on, you can poke thier eyes out with the arial from 3 feet away.

So there are advantages on both sides :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

we could resurrect the peg board so you can't switch on if your frequency peg is missing!:woot:

[sunbeam]

PEG BOARD ! :o

Showing your age now Pete, LOL :p

I've just sent my set back to CML. They have said they have never heard of this problem before and need to take a look ! So I have.

To be honest, I'm going to buy a Sanwa Exzes X, I just need to find the cheapest place. Mushroom and RCmart are out of stock. Anybody know of another overseas shop where I can get it cheap (sorry Paul)

[peetbee]

so are you, as I didn't have to explain what it was!!

[sunbeam]

LOL :thumbsup:

[Pops]

You want to try some 40 mhz sets Rob. Cheap as chips, huge choice, reliable, no problems and i havent changed crystals since i started back racing 3 years ago...

40 mhz - Its the way forward :lol:

Shhhh Mat!! After nearly having a breakdown over Spectrum i bought Owen a Mint 3vc on 40 meg.. Boxed with receivers and posted for 100.. its been a year now and not even a glitch!! 4o megs the future Rob

[Pops]

[QUOTE=sunbeam;572323]40 meg is tempting, but I like the idea of turning on in the pits to fiddle with my ESC :thumbsup:

I also like the piece of mind knowing I'm not going to have problems with outher drivers. We've seen it all before. A shout "Who's on ......," as their car does something it was not meant to do. With 2.4, you can ignor them :)

However, if you have 40 meg, and you find the driver that turned on, you can poke thier eyes out with the arial from 3 feet away.

So there are advantages on both sides :thumbsup:[/QUOT
At least on 40 meg when your car smashes into a wall you know someone has switched on!( all 2 of us:woot:) unlike the 2.4 where you never seem to know why so end up changing everything!!

[Dyna]

LOL good points Dave... :woot:

Certainly ive heard of 2.4 sets causing people to do all sorts of thing to them when they go wrong... smashing the things and even jumping up and down on them... :lol: You ever heard of anyone doing that Dave ??

In all seriousness, I think the most important point is feel of the handset when your using it. I tried all sorts when i came back racing, none fitted my hands as well as the old Gemini 2, which is the main reason why im still using it. Some felt too 'sharp' in the hands, others had the sticks to far away for comfort, others felt too 'cheap & plasticy '...

Best bit of advice - try each one before you buy a radio, preferably a full clubnight if you can wrangle it. Nothing worse than spending hundreds of quid on a top notch TX then cant get used to it in the hands.

[Pops]

[QUOTE=Dyna;572539]LOL good points Dave... :woot:

Certainly ive heard of 2.4 sets causing people to do all sorts of thing to them when they go wrong... smashing the things and even jumping up and down on them... :lol: You ever heard of anyone doing that Dave ??

LOL:blush:..3 new receivers,3power caps.a new ariel,battery pack oh and spectrum unit tested resulted in 4 a final dnf's in the 2010 wrca summer champs.(never once went into failsafe at club or in qualis:confused:)that said the ninja still finished 4th and got his f2.....The really funny thing is that since i tought the thing some manners its not bothered us since:D
You coming out to pklay on fri Mat?

[millzy]

LOL good points Dave... :woot:

Certainly ive heard of 2.4 sets causing people to do all sorts of thing to them when they go wrong... smashing the things and even jumping up and down on them... :lol: You ever heard of anyone doing that Dave ??

In all seriousness, I think the most important point is feel of the handset when your using it. I tried all sorts when i came back racing, none fitted my hands as well as the old Gemini 2, which is the main reason why im still using it. Some felt too 'sharp' in the hands, others had the sticks to far away for comfort, others felt too 'cheap & plasticy '...

Best bit of advice - try each one before you buy a radio, preferably a full clubnight if you can wrangle it. Nothing worse than spending hundreds of quid on a top notch TX then cant get used to it in the hands.


I must be the odd one out, I never need to get a feel for a handset, Probably has something to do with pikey racing and having lend so many cars off people and there handsets that its now the norm to just grab a handset and drive the car.

[sunbeam]

Thank you guys for all your help here.

If CML can't sort the set for me, I'll be placing and order with Paul for a UK bassed Sanwa exzes-X :cry:

I think I will keep all my 'Oopleing' to the Caldicot section from now on.

[brian s]

rob, if your stuck for a radio for friday racing i can lend you a 40meg ko tranny/receiver and crystal (but you`ll need your own batteries)

[sunbeam]

That's a FANTASTIC offer Brian, thank you :thumbsup:

I've heard lots about how bad the Etronics set is, so to be honest, I don't think I'll be fitting it back in when I get it back from CML (unless they give me a new one)

So I would like to take you up on your kind offer until the Sanwa come's in if that's OK with you. I'll not be racing this Friday, but will be there next week.

Thanks again :thumbsup:

[brian s]

no probs, let me know whether your sorted next week.if you need a lend i`ll bring it next friday.
cheers