what airbrush

[grimidol]

Hi guys i have had a few cheap one and they are ok but dont last long. What is a good priced one what is goign to last longer ?

[gingapaint]

Personally I'm using an iwata eclipse, which I love. Previoualy had the cheaper revolution, which was an awesome brush for the money!

[bigred5765]

+1 on the iwata cs for me though

[gingapaint]

Aye, think it's an HP-CS eclipse off top of my head. Hard to go wrong with them :D

[bigred5765]

your right , dam fine airbrush to
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Iwata-HP-CS-Eclipse-airbrush-/220875007522?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item336d2d2622
one of these

[U1timate PigDog]

Another +1 for the Iwata eclipse, however its a touch on the expensive side and you dont really need anything quite as good as this, if I were you I'd go for the Iwata revolution (gravity fed version) and it will produce super results.

:thumbsup:

[gingapaint]

The revolution is cracking, used one up to fairly recently. Just be carefull with the nozzle, I managed to break the threaded part off inside the body and it was more sense, economically to replace the brush.

[grimidol]

Intresting no one has said aztek ?
Starting to look over the next few days for good deals on iwata me think

[D20MCK]

I have the aztek airbrush and it's really not very nice to use, best thing about it is the wooden box it comes in, I'm looking at a new brush also and I keep coming back to the iwata eclipse.

This is the Aztek kit I've got http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/aztek-wooden-airbrush-set-with-case/ total waste of money if I'm honest.

[eyeayen]

I've got the original Aztek in the little space age grey case, it's an alright airbrush, give me a shout if you're looking to buy one of them.

I use an Iwata HP-B, had it about 22 years, replaced the air valve once and the nozzle a couple of times but can't fault it. If you can afford one I'd go for an Iwata, they're all good. You do get what you pay for though !

[DCM]

I use Iwata HP-CR as it comes with a 0.5mm tip.

[Mike Parker]

+1 on Iwatas, always used Badger Cresendos in the past but swapped over to a Kustom CS and really impressed with it :thumbsup:

[westers]

How often will you be spraying?

[grimidol]

Just mine and my sons shells ever couple of months

[gingapaint]

If it for limited, personal use then the iwata revolution will be just perfect. I've seen them for under £80 and capable of anything you could throw at them.
It does sound like we're battering on about them, but they're cracking!
I've read very mixed things about the budget NEO range though.

[westers]

Ebay is your friend http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRBRUSH-double-action-AIR-BRUSH-KIT-COMPRESSOR-11p-/290601752621?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item43a936d82d

£23 - range of nozzle and needle sizes, hoses.

I bought one - it works great, and as I'm only likely to spray one, maybe two, shells a year then it's perfect for me.

[grimidol]

What sbout one of these ?
https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?products_id=21056&osCsid=9f67efab7f46d600f649adc6c4a2b544

[U1timate PigDog]

I personally think it sounds pretty good to me, decent price and being a iwata you can pretty much guarentee it will be quality. :thumbsup:

[gingapaint]

I was looking into the NEO range a while ago, as a cheap back up brush, but I read nothing positive. They're apparently just badged iwata, rather than designed and built by iwata.
For £20 extra, I'd buy a revolution every time.
If you do go that way, I'd be interested in hearing how it goes.

[U1timate PigDog]

I was looking into the NEO range a while ago, as a cheap back up brush, but I read nothing positive. They're apparently just badged iwata, rather than designed and built by iwata.
For £20 extra, I'd buy a revolution every time.
If you do go that way, I'd be interested in hearing how it goes.

I'm very disappointed, it did sound really good for the price, Iwata rebadging someone elses stuff is just not right (if true I should add) :thumbdown:.

Like gingapaint says it maybe worth spending a extra £20 but I wouldn't mind hearing how it goes if you do get one of these.

[gingapaint]

It was from a airbrush artist forum, that I read the review. Can't remember which one, I just googled it at the time. Could be wrong, I guess, but they seemed to know more than me (not difficult I suspect!!)

[andys]

Good info on this thread :)

If I were to upgrade my £10 airbrush - which I'd like to do, is there a good value brush & compressor set I should look at ?

Also, what's the best value compressor out there - do you need one that's runs all the time, or one with an air 'tank' ?

Cheers guys.

[U1timate PigDog]

A tank is a must in my opinion, the thing to remember is that the bigger the tank the less noise you will have whilst working as it will need replace the air less.

I think mine cost around £75 a few years back, its now about £125 or something but I'd put a wanted up in the trade section here and also keep a eye on ebay for a good deal.

There is a similar discussion on airbrushes in one of the other threads and the feeling I get is everyone agrees on Iwata as the best and if your looking for something quality thats what you want.

The Iwata revolution is what I would put my money on but is around £75 on ebay so depends how far you want to dip into pockets.

[eyeayen]

Compressor wise Bambi do an economy type range, top stuff ! It works essentially on a fridge motor so is as noisy as your fridge. I think the one you'd need from them is about £370. Depends what you want to spend though ?

http://www.everythingairbrush.com/acatalog/Bambi_Budget_Silent_Air_Compressors.html

The advantage of having a tank or 'receiver' is when doing fine lines or shadows if you don't have a tank it pulses, this is the piston pushing the air through, so on the up stroke you get a fat line and on the down stroke you get a thin line, so I'd go for the one with a tank.

Airbrush, Iwata, they rock. No contest ! I think Jon's selling them now ? Not sure ?

[gingapaint]

Is Jon doing Iwata now? Wish I knew that, only changed brush at the start of the month....

As for compressor, I'm using a £50 B&Q special with an inline moisture trap. Noisy as hell, but my neighbours already hate me, so meh...... :D

[RichyUK]

i made my compressor, i call it FrankenPressor :D:D

[eyeayen]

The pump part of your Frankenpressor is the same as mine, they're a generic one, I bet it's quiet. Make some plans, get them up on here with instructions how people can build there own :)

[RichyUK]

The pump part of your Frankenpressor is the same as mine, they're a generic one, I bet it's quiet. Make some plans, get them up on here with instructions how people can build there own :)

yeah, its just s fridge motor/compressor linked into a small camping gas bottle :) the only mildly difficult/expensive thing to buy is the proper compressor on/off pressure switch.

Makes for a cheap, very quiet (as noisy as a fridge!) compressor :D

[eyeayen]

It's good to be able to hear what the airbrush is doing which is why I love having a quiet compressor as opposed to using the machine gun sounding one I had previously ?

[RichyUK]

It's good to be able to hear what the airbrush is doing which is why I love having a quiet compressor as opposed to using the machine gun sounding one I had previously ?

tell me about it! i previously had a small 'normal' compressor, and as i spray in my dining room it was a bit much :eh?:

[Northy]

yeah, its just s fridge motor/compressor linked into a small camping gas bottle :) the only mildly difficult/expensive thing to buy is the proper compressor on/off pressure switch.

Makes for a cheap, very quiet (as noisy as a fridge!) compressor :D

Richy,

Can you give us a few more details on how to make one? :confused:

G

[RichyUK]

Richy,

Can you give us a few more details on how to make one? :confused:

G

Hi G, best thing to do is a google search for home made compressors.

But i made mine like this:
Obtained a working fridge motor/compressor from an old fridge, a small Calor gas bottle, an on/off pressure switch from an old compressor (these are available new for little money), and a water trap.

I cut 2 lengths of some steel section i had kicking about and welded the gas bottle to them and then bolted the compressor on behind it. You need to power up the compressor and find out which pipe is the outlet, and run a rubber pipe to the inlet of the gas bottle (i screwed a tail barb into the non return valve in the top of the bottle).

Drilled and tapped a hole in the top of the gas bottle to fit the pressure on/off switch and fitted that, and this allows you to set the cut off point for the pressure.

Added a water trap from the outlet of the pressure switch, and voila! :D

one thing to note is the non return valve in the top of the gas bottle must be retained to stop prevent there being pressure in the pipe from the compressor to the tank, or the compressor wont retart when tank pressure drops.