Racing friday 4th

[brian s]

Who`s running what this week then ?. Vintage 4wd for me.
Pete, depending on numbers can we run our normal class as well.

[JACKOR33]

Vintage 4wd for me aswell, hopefully we can get the series started;)

[peetbee]

Yay, vintage this week, I'll be there:)

Yes, dependent on numbers you can, but we'll have to wait until everyone has booked in before we can make that decision. If you are planning on running vintage, please update the vintage topic!
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=574896#post574896

[Gaz_Stanton]

Planning to run vintage.

If I can get it running this week, if I can get there, if I can get there in time... :rolleyes:

[axeman]

yes semi-vintage 4 me and 2wd.

[hit5005]

yes semi-vintage 4 me and 2wd.
2wd????????? :o
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[hit5005]

im there 2wd and maybe micro if i can fix it in time:thumbsup:
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[acorn28]

I'm there, 4wd of the new school variety for me. Rich.

[axeman]

2wd????????? :o
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Yes I'm gunna show you how to drive!!!

On a plus point wont be able to wind you up if i'm racing :thumbdown:

[hit5005]

Yes I'm gunna show you how to drive!!!

On a plus point wont be able to wind you up if i'm racing :thumbdown:
is it a ansmann?
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[axeman]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[axeman]

sorry
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[sunbeam]

We'll be there, 2WD :thumbsup:

hope I'm not racing against a yellow Cougar ?

[Caine]

I'm there, Vintage and possibly 2wd if we're allowed :thumbsup:

[hit5005]

sorry
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
u will be with one of them:p;)
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[blue_pinky]

In terms of running more than 1 class on Vintage weeks...and generally keeping the heat numbers under control at all times....

We need to start limiting the number of heats to 6, beyond that we cannot guarantee 4 rounds of racing in the time.

Adding vintage automatically adds a heat onto the 3 classes we already run every week, so we will be keeping an eye on booking in, and limiting people to one class of racing if it helps us keep the number of heats capped at 6.

The one class only decision will work across the board for all classes of racing as well...provided it helps us keep the heat number down to 6.

If there is space within the 6 heats for people to run a 2nd class, those spaces will be filled on a first come first served basis...remembering that booking in is only done on the night at race control...anything posted on here before hand is not booked in!

We are just trying to get our heads around the numbers at the moment, it's been consistently really busy over the last few months, which is amazing...but we do want to make sure we can maximise track time in the fairest way possible, and the 1 class only idea seems like it might help with that.

We can only ask you be patient with us while we figure out the easiest and best way to manage it, but rest assured, we will manage it :thumbsup:

[sunbeam]

Can I just get this straight in my head.

2WD (for example) would have (for example) three rounds of heats, at say 7 cars each, total 21 2WD entrants. If all the 2WD runners turn up early or a 2WD driver gets there a little late or later, there is a chance with the above situation, they could not race if they only came with a 2WD car and all 21 slots were taken ??

Is that about right ?

If the above is correct, can the club have an absolute start time as well. That way everybody would know that racing starts at 'X' o'clock. I have been in the situation that I've got there at 7.30, just in time to catch 'race starts in 2 mins' when the week before, racing didn't start until 8pm. With such a wild start time, it makes it hard to book in properly unless we get there very early. Having said that, I'm trying to get there for about 7pm anyway these days :)

[peetbee]

The problem we have with start times is that it is dependant on the amount of help we get with setting out.
The less people helping means a later start time.
(please note that I do appreciate that not everyone can get there early due to other commitments)

Until we trial it I don't think we can say exactly how it will work, so please bear with us :)

[millzy]

It says 6 heats of 4 different classes (Vintage, 4wd 2wd and Micro) - My guess is the other 2 will be filled with the classes with the most drivers booked in on a first come first service basis-

Realistically with vintage Micro 4wd and 2wd all being popular we normally get 2 heats per class with out fail 42 drivers normal night / 56 drivers with the vintage class

going on 56 - first 28 (using 7 drivers per heat as number in heats from previous club nights) garneted a place in there class - After that the remaining 28 drivers will some how (I don’t envy any one taking on that) be booked into the final 14 places in the 2 remaining heats leaving 14 drivers turned away ( 14 driver using 2 heats for 4 classes)

Capping the drivers to one class would most likely free up a heat and changing the number to 49 - leaving 7 free spaces and only 7 drivers turned away However- if the number is changed from 7 drivers per heat to 8 with one heat of 9 then there is no issue- but would mean one of two mixed heats

Its just an example – but dose show that capping 2 heats per class and one class per driver and upping the number to 8 drivers per heat would let you run 6 heats.

the other option is dropping a class on the vintage night

Im not part of the club and the above is an example- its down to what the club feel is right at the end of the day

[peetbee]

This all assumes that we get as many drivers as we have been over the last few weeks!
I have spoken to most if not all vintage drivers and they understand that they are unlikely to be able to run two classes, unless numbers are down on normal. They are also aware that if only 2 or 3 vintage cars turn up then there won't be a seperate heat for them and they will be given the opportunity to reschedule.

We'll see how it goes this Friday and we'll go from there

[sunbeam]

The problem we have with start times is that it is dependant on the amount of help we get with setting out.
The less people helping means a later start time.
(please note that I do appreciate that not everyone can get there early due to other commitments)

Until we trial it I don't think we can say exactly how it will work, so please bear with us :)

I have tryed to help set up a number of times, but everything I touch is wrong, so I don't bother now.

[blue_pinky]

lol...don't stress people...and put the calculators away...I wish it was that exact a science...it'd be simple then!!! :p :lol:

But to be clear...

People might get asked to only run one class...if it helps us run the best racing on a night.

No one will get turned away from racing...we'll put 7 heats in and have less rounds before that happens...because that would be fair in that instance!

Start times are slightly varied and that will never change as Pete has already said...too many variables...including the odd early start, which we can't predict!

But we do try to start by 8pm every week these days, as from that time with 6 heats we can always fit 4 rounds of racing in!

If we get in and setup earlier (which is a rare luxury!), we might add a round in ahead of the 8pm start...so anyone arriving later will still always get the usual 4 rounds in anyway...so don't ever worry about missing an early start!

Oh and Rob...Sorry...:blush:...I do get a bit carried away sometimes...but you must know how it is...you build stuff for a living as well...just jump in and help...:thumbsup:

[danharding]

Don't worry Andy always moves everybody's stuff around, it's why we end up with the best tracks. :thumbsup:

[sunbeam]

Don't worry Andy always moves everybody's stuff around, it's why we end up with the best tracks. :thumbsup:

Yes, if left to me, we would have a full carpet oval LOL :drool:

[Gaz_Stanton]

So... just be be awkward. :blush: I was intending to bring the 2wd and vintage down this Friday.
Will I have to choose one or the other if the numbers are high?

[peetbee]

You awkward Gaz? surely not!
It is a possibility I'm afraid, bring everything and then you can choose if you have to

[brian s]

what time will the doors be open pete? anyone getting there early this week.

[sunbeam]

I'll be there a little earlyer than normal (about 6.30). Maybe I could be given something to tape up or lay on the track, don't say I didn't offer ;)

[brian s]

rob do you still need to borrow radio gear

[sunbeam]

Sorry, I forgot to get back to you :blush:

CML sent me a new set, so I'm giving that another try. This time with the RX mounted with velcro to take out some bumps, might help?

If it still plays up in time, I'll buy a Sanwa Exzes II, that'll fix it ! :thumbsup:

Thank you VERY much for the offer, but it looks like I'm OK for the moment :). If the new set plays up and the Sanwa is going to be held up, I would like to come back to you on that offer if I may.

Thanks,
Rob.

[Dyna]

This time with the RX mounted with velcro to take out some bumps, might help?

You will find Velcro is FAR superior to double-sided tape when mounting electronics Rob.... :thumbsup:

:lol:

[Balders]

You will find Velcro is FAR superior to double sided when mounting electronics Rob.... :thumbsup:

:lol:

:mad:

[peetbee]

Oh no, here we go again!


I should be there for 6.30, will try and remember the laptop!

[Balders]

Ill be there, 4wd only for me tonight please. I've got all my electrics specially double taped down and ready.

Face it matt you are wrong.. Velcro is the past, double tape is the future.. :)

[Dyna]

I've got all my electrics specially double taped down and ready.

Ahhh thats a shame Mike, ill keep my fingers crossed that you manage to finish a heat without your electronics falling out or even failing due to excess vibration from using tape instead of velcro.... :)

[sunbeam]

Oops, looks like I've started something, sorry :blush:

LOL :lol:

[blue_pinky]

Rob, it's ok...you've not not started anything...just reopened a debate...

...I'm with Matt incidentally...velcro all the way! Saves you twisting and bending the pcb's inside your expensive electrics when you try to remove it! :thumbsup:

[peetbee]

Tape FTW!

[millzy]

Can make it tonight

just as well as I wanted to race
Micro 1/14th
Micro 1/16th
Truck
SC truck
2wd
4wd
Vintage 4wd
Vintage 2wd
Vintage truck
and My best class 3wd or 2wd front diff only 4wd racing

:)

[JACKOR33]

Can make it tonight

just as well as I wanted to race
Micro 1/14th
Micro 1/16th
Truck
SC truck
2wd
4wd
Vintage 4wd
Vintage 2wd
Vintage truck
and My best class 3wd or 2wd front diff only 4wd racing

:)


PMSL U missed 4wd SC tho' ;)

[Dyna]

Can make it tonight

just as well as I wanted to race
Micro 1/14th
Micro 1/16th
Truck
SC truck
2wd
4wd
Vintage 4wd
Vintage 2wd
Vintage truck
and My best class 3wd or 2wd front diff only 4wd racing

:)


LOL nice one Chris.... :lol:

[Teaboy]

Ive been beaten by Man Flu, im not leaving the house now. Have fun tonight with the vintage, ironically the belt for the Mini Mustang arrived today aswell.

Hey Ho

Cheers

Rich

[sunbeam]

Well, what a total disaster for me tonight ! :o

WAY to tired to race, drove like a total dick head :cry:

Must go sleep !

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[axeman]

I had a great night!!!!:)

[chris-on-wheels]

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[hit5005]

top nights racing the ansmann is getting faster:thumbsup: top track once again:thumbsup:
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[Martyn Spooner]

Haven't been for a while but have to say I forgot how good Caldicot can be on a Friday. Thanks to dad for getting my car built, I'd not have made it otherwise - too lazy.

Track excellent, good standard of driving.

Amazing too to find out that Phil is also into the oldskool (and not the RC type)!

Ben should have some photos of all classes to post soon - looked very good on his camera - he also filmed a few mins too.

[axeman]

top nights racing the ansmann is getting faster:thumbsup: top track once again:thumbsup:
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Was that the B-final you were in????:p

[jaffacake]

Qualified last in the A,made up a place by the end but a cracking track yet again
Gota be said well done to Axeman,cracking driving considering 1st attempt at 2wd,thats all im saying as we had a hell of a job getting his head out of the building as it was :o

[Caine]

Haven't been for a while but have to say I forgot how good Caldicot can be on a Friday. Thanks to dad for getting my car built, I'd not have made it otherwise - too lazy.

Track excellent, good standard of driving.

Amazing too to find out that Phil is also into the oldskool (and not the RC type)!

Ben should have some photos of all classes to post soon - looked very good on his camera - he also filmed a few mins too.

Was good to see you out Martin hopefully you'll make the next round!
Cheers for the slipper as well, will sort it out when i'm down next.

I'm just glad it's best round counts as otherwise i'd be last not third from last as my driving when steadily down hill all night!:cry:

[Martyn Spooner]

No worries on the slipper - if dad ends up running my other XX and you run yours we can just share the spares. Hopefully between us we should be able to last a few rounds etc.

Not sure what the rules are on rounds and classes but I hope to run at a few more...

[Caine]

Good Good!

I've got a load of spares as well so we should have plenty to keep us going for a while!

[peetbee]

Fab track, great laugh seeing all the vintage stuff but I hate my Lazer :mad:

[brian s]

pete you should have kept the rc10

[peetbee]

Tell me about it Bri!
Still, do not fear, I will be returning with an RC10 soon:thumbsup:

[jaysllim]

Or u can buy a brand new cobra of me pete lol and join the rebelion lol

(wen i say brand new im mean never raced before not even been put together lol even comes with a slipper clutch lol)

[peetbee]

LOL, been there done that Jay and sold it before it turned a wheel!:blush:
Have got myself an RC10 graphite that was going to be a project for next year, is now a project for the next month!:thumbsup:

[jaysllim]

I can honestly say im jelous of all these rc10's on here appering but unfortunatly i cant afford one, but i want to try nd do a few vintage evenings with u guys so thats why i bought a £20 cobra of fleabay lol

[JACKOR33]

I can honestly say im jelous of all these rc10's on here appering but unfortunatly i cant afford one, but i want to try nd do a few vintage evenings with u guys so thats why i bought a £20 cobra of fleabay lol


Its more fun doing cheap/budget vintage like me jay as it tastes sweeter when you beat all the expensive new/old vintage builds ;)

I was actually 3rd on friday behind paul knight not last, as for some reason th ept wasnt being picked up :(

[peetbee]

:p
My RC10 wasn't expensive, just needs a shell, wheels n tyres and it'll be up and running

[brian s]

i`ve got some nip viper shells if your interested in one.

[peetbee]

I'll have a chat with you Bri, but Paul did say I could 'borrow' my old shell back!

[Balders]

I've got 2 protech shells nip, one is going to Pete for some paint and the other is going to Si to be moulded.. (hopefully...) :)

[Martyn Spooner]

Its more fun doing cheap/budget vintage like me jay as it tastes sweeter when you beat all the expensive new/old vintage builds ;)

I was actually 3rd on friday behind paul knight not last, as for some reason th ept wasnt being picked up :(

Completely understand what you're saying David. I think you're easily the best driver we have in Vintage at the moment (although I hear more are on their way). I have no idea how you manage to drive that old Tamiya around so fast but it must involve some sort of ritual sacrifice.

As for expensive new cars I agree with your comment. But there are some good buys out there. I won't lie, I fancy an RC10 but they're too expensive - especially for the amount of racing I do. But my brand new XX was only £120 from memory. In my book that's not bad, it's new enough to still get spares for, drives way better than I ever expected (I once owned a XXX - urgh), and the rear wheels are compatible with my SV & SX.

I did originally buy considerably cheaper XX's of the Bay but being me, the idea of stripping down several cars to make one good one in the end just seemed like too much effort..... :yawn:

[JACKOR33]

Completely understand what you're saying David. I think you're easily the best driver we have in Vintage at the moment (although I hear more are on their way). I have no idea how you manage to drive that old Tamiya around so fast but it must involve some sort of ritual sacrifice.

As for expensive new cars I agree with your comment. But there are some good buys out there. I won't lie, I fancy an RC10 but they're too expensive - especially for the amount of racing I do. But my brand new XX was only £120 from memory. In my book that's not bad, it's new enough to still get spares for, drives way better than I ever expected (I once owned a XXX - urgh), and the rear wheels are compatible with my SV & SX.

I did originally buy considerably cheaper XX's of the Bay but being me, the idea of stripping down several cars to make one good one in the end just seemed like too much effort..... :yawn:


Thanks Martyn but i think that accolade is yours, try as i might i couldnt pass your 2wd with my 4wd, i did have fun trying mind specially in round 1 with both rear shocks not attached and the car cocking its legs round every corner lol:woot:

If i wasnt pushing so hard to catch you i would have probably not binned it and remained second aaahh well thats the way racing goes:)

My 2wd racing on friday was completly screwed up after driving the vintage nevermind....

[Martyn Spooner]

You where right on my bumper until about 4mins. Ben gave me a copy of the video - it's not the whole final but I'll ask him if it's okay to post on YouTube or somewhere. I can see how careful you were not to hit my car when you got up real close. Thanks for that.

He also snapped a few pics of all races.