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bigred5765
27-02-2008, 10:41 AM
its here yah looks the bollocks
OMG the chassis is soooooo thin

Wraggy
27-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Best give it Lee to build now!!:woot:

bigred5765
27-02-2008, 11:30 AM
on his way already lol i hadnt even finished typing lol

DaveG28
27-02-2008, 12:27 PM
Is the front of that chassis funny or is it the photo?

It doesn't look straight!?

Northy
27-02-2008, 12:33 PM
Did they only have 2D CAD? :lol::lol::lol:

G

KevLee
27-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Is the front of that chassis funny or is it the photo?

It doesn't look straight!?

I see what you mean but it is the photo giving that impression, its definately straight! The moldings are very high quality :)

bigred5765
27-02-2008, 01:38 PM
quality looks fantastic
but iguess the final word will be lee's when he has finished it all
sorry about the shity cam pics

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 12:06 AM
Hey, grateful for any pics, great to see it!

Couple of quick questions, I assume there's a shell and a set of wheels in with the kit? Also, are the instructions in English? Or big pictures so easy to follow anyway?

Lee
28-02-2008, 09:13 AM
The kit was a really good build, it really is Xray quality i am very impressed not 1 second of filing or dremelling required:thumbsup:

The only thing i would say is although the manual is written very well, they give no hints to setup, they also say stick a 1.4mm spacer under the brace for the anti squat but it does not say what a 1.4 mm spacer gives in terms of degrees. It is just small things like this but the kit is quality.

Oh and use the short cvd for the front upto the slipper it says use long for both front and rear.:confused:

Very impressed though so far:thumbsup:

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 11:24 AM
Sounds good, can't wait for mine to arrive! Is it metric or imperial by the way (I assume metric as its EU?), and does it use Allen drivers? I only have metric tools!?

Doomanic
28-02-2008, 11:47 AM
How much was it?

Lee
28-02-2008, 11:48 AM
Yes most of it is metric there is the odd imperial grub screw here and there, mainly diffs though.

The slipper is very nice!!;)

Richard Lowe
28-02-2008, 11:58 AM
Defecting Lee? :p

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 12:03 PM
Does it come with any tools at all, like I say I don't have any imperial!?

Lee
28-02-2008, 02:01 PM
It comes with small metric allen keys but you will need a 0.05" driver ( i think) Its just for the cvd`s and that;)

kykky
28-02-2008, 02:41 PM
Just received my car!
A very nice car!
:thumbsup:http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/699/img1853lv9.jpg

jimmy
28-02-2008, 02:47 PM
nice stickers!

KevLee
28-02-2008, 02:52 PM
nice stickers!

not bad are they? who did them i wonder :thumbsup:

rcracer
28-02-2008, 02:57 PM
How much was it?

yeah how much guys :thumbsup:

bigred5765
28-02-2008, 03:05 PM
529 euros plus p&p

rcracer
28-02-2008, 03:08 PM
400 notes then plus p&p in real money :lol:

Wraggy
28-02-2008, 03:10 PM
529 euros plus p&p
current exchange rates make it 402 plus P&P

damn beat me to it ..:p

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 03:41 PM
Tis nice though and compared to an s4 it's a steal :woot:

Wraggy
28-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Tis nice though and compared to an s4 it's a steal :woot:
S4 was a conversion from a BJ4 so you had to buy a BJ4 1st if you didnt have one.
the conversion its self wasnt that expensive.

anyway back to subject now ..

gramey
28-02-2008, 04:00 PM
current exchange rates make it 402 plus P&P

damn beat me to it ..:p

:(At the moment they are only set up for electronic bank transfer, no cards or paypal, so you need to allow bank charges for this on top of price, doh.:(

Northy
28-02-2008, 04:12 PM
So you'll be looking at around 450 :confused:

G

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 04:20 PM
It comes with small metric allen keys but you will need a 0.05" driver ( i think) Its just for the cvd`s and that;)

Can anyone confirm the size? I'm going to need to buy one somewhere and don't want the wrong size!

Dave

nitrokillah
28-02-2008, 04:38 PM
:(At the moment they are only set up for electronic bank transfer, no cards or paypal, so you need to allow bank charges for this on top of price, doh.:(


Surely you can do a europeen Bank transfer with the IBAN / BIC details.
It shouldn't cost you that mutch.

I know It's free in my bank. But then again I'm in "ING / Belgium"

You should check with your bank tho cause last time I sent 135 to the UK I didn't have to pay any charges at all .

stuhurley
28-02-2008, 05:12 PM
according to theraceplace.co.uk website it should be in stock 01.03.08 (saturday)

http://theraceplace.co.uk/oscommerce/product_info.php?products_id=306

Lee
28-02-2008, 05:33 PM
Wraggy is right, this car is bloody expensive for what you get, there is nothing to it:o

When building the car read the instructions 3 times and then if it doesnt make sense go your own way, especially when it comes to shimming the drive train as mine was very tight as per the instructions, but now its fine:D

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 06:01 PM
Any chance you can check the size of that Allen drive?

With shimming, is there a good way of setting this, I've only ever run belt drive before!? Is it similar to setting the pinion/spur gear position?

KevLee
28-02-2008, 06:42 PM
You'll need a 0.05" for the CVDs, and a 1/16" for the Slipper.

DaveG28
28-02-2008, 07:03 PM
Thanks mate, I'll get hold of some ASAP

Lee
28-02-2008, 07:37 PM
My new baby:::wub:wub

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/cheshiremodelcars/camera023.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/cheshiremodelcars/camera024.jpg

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Congratulations!!!

Lovely looking car! It feels just right too, doesn't it :thumbsup:

Kecky
28-02-2008, 07:42 PM
Took your time :p

Looks ace, when are you giving it a good seeing to :thumbsup:

bigred5765
28-02-2008, 08:09 PM
wait till you get to see the shell

Wraggy
28-02-2008, 08:11 PM
do you not get any tires with it ???

Lee
28-02-2008, 08:18 PM
No wraggy, or servo horns,or motor screws.

This is the first batch though i think these things will be picked up on:)

sparrow.2
28-02-2008, 08:37 PM
Get yourself an associated diff thrust spring to try in the slipper. Made a world of difference to the adjustability and being able to get it tight enough.

Garry Driffill
28-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Lee aint you driving for J-Concepts ?

Lee
28-02-2008, 10:01 PM
No, i just had "support" from them for the clash

Northy
28-02-2008, 10:18 PM
Doesn't look to have a lot of rear toe-in, or is it the angle the pic is taken at? :confused:

G

Lee
28-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Ha Ha

That`ll be the 0 degree blocks:confused:

gramey
28-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Surely you can do a europeen Bank transfer with the IBAN / BIC details.
It shouldn't cost you that mutch.

I know It's free in my bank. But then again I'm in "ING / Belgium"

You should check with your bank tho cause last time I sent 135 to the UK I didn't have to pay any charges at all .

:(In that case the woman in our local Lloyds TSB has fitted me up, I can't double check until Monday as it won't show on our account until the 1st of the next month, i.e. Saturday, but Monday is the next working day. I'll let you know.:)

bigred5765
28-02-2008, 11:26 PM
25 from all the high street banks near us
i think because were in the good old uk

DaveG28
29-02-2008, 10:51 AM
More Questions sorry:

What size diff balls does it take, and are they standard steel?

If I can get some hardened or carbide ones I'l put them in from the start, I hate doing rebuilds!

Dave

Lee
29-02-2008, 11:16 AM
Dave, sorry it doesnt say in the manual what size the balls are or if they are a carbide ball:confused:


The manual isnt great if you havent built cars before, but if you know your stuff you will be fine;)

DaveG28
29-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Hopefully I'll get through it ok, I have built a fair few but I normally do Tamiya who's instructions are very good!!

Hmm, wonder how to measure ball size, I could try and trap one in some calipers but it might ping anywhere!

Garry Driffill
29-02-2008, 01:09 PM
you recon its possible to put an order in today ?

and them have a kit ready to send out ?

Hairy Spider
29-02-2008, 01:12 PM
I've sent money to Germany (from the UK/HSBC bank) for ebay purchases a few times and its cost about 20 each a pop for the basic 5 day transfer. You can pay more to get it there quicker.

Jon.

Lee
29-02-2008, 01:14 PM
Garry, im not sure how many kits the race place are getting, i would imagine it will be some of the initial 30 that were ready. Worth a try though, they are the sex!!

Im actually making up some rear toe in blocks as we speak but i know aero will have some in the coming weeks

Dave, i think the aero uses the same balls as the bj4/s4 so i would imagine they would be the same size, but couldnt be 100% certain, it just looks familiar.;)

Garry Driffill
29-02-2008, 01:22 PM
Garry, im not sure how many kits the race place are getting, i would imagine it will be some of the initial 30 that were ready. Worth a try though, they are the sex!!

thats cool, good too know, happy with what im running at the moment, but i thought that was the situation like that with the first lot of pre-orders being sent out to the hardcore lot LOL :lol:

bigred5765
29-02-2008, 09:50 PM
lovin the new aero shell
the paint scheme he has chosen suit the car big time
http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_22.jpg

Kecky
02-03-2008, 08:56 AM
Looks very nice and original :)

Did you design the rear yellow end of the shell, for use with yellow wheels Lee??? :p

Lee
02-03-2008, 09:46 AM
No the Aero is definatley straight.

The body is like a sausage on steroids!!:lol:

Kecky
02-03-2008, 09:50 AM
:lol: Yer the photo probably doesn't do it justice, as it's probably a lot thinner than it looks :thumbsup:

Lee
02-03-2008, 10:11 AM
It is silly thin, it looks like a normal body but with no side pods:o

stegger
02-03-2008, 11:23 AM
NICE DESIGN THAT FELLA:thumbsup:

bigred5765
02-03-2008, 08:38 PM
thanks all
its just about as wide as a wing from front to back
super thin
looks like it lost ten stone in a week

stegger
03-03-2008, 08:11 PM
Spanish National Champion Alberto Garcia takes TQ in both the 4wd and 2wd classes at the first spanish national with the AERO and a cr ;)
HERE YOU GO YOU PAIR OF KNOB JOCKIES http://www.redrc.net/

super__dan
03-03-2008, 08:31 PM
TQ's 2wd with the Aero??? ;)

Lee
03-03-2008, 08:36 PM
Doesn`t look much like an aero to me? Its a bit fat:p


Is ellesmere port in wales:lol:

Southwell
03-03-2008, 08:39 PM
Team L'aero? :p

stegger
03-03-2008, 08:44 PM
Edited above:eh?:

Garry Driffill
03-03-2008, 08:55 PM
That paint job looks ace, loving the black at the back of the car :woot:

Lee
04-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Here is my aero all mounted and a few stickers.

http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_37.jpg

http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_38.jpg

Now a question where do i put the PT?

http://www.hobbytec.co.uk/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_39.jpg

I thought on the battery straps but the lead may catch on the spur at some point, i also thought about mounting it on velcro on the inside of the shell but im not sure if it sits above the speedo it could cause interference or loose its signal??

Kecky
04-03-2008, 12:46 PM
It's a bit tight for space isn't it :D

Could you not stick it on the battery strap, and hot glue the wire along the inside edge of the chassis, to keep the lead away from the spur gear, or cable tie the wire to the bottom edge of the aluminium spur gear mount;)

And you deffo need to change the white wheels to yellow to set that shell off :thumbsup:

bigred5765
04-03-2008, 12:57 PM
stand it in the gap between the Rx and the Ariel mount
double side it to the rx

KevLee
04-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Lee, i have fitted mine infront of the receiver. I just had to take a small amount of the forward corners of the PT to get it in the webbing of the chassis. Not sure what receiver you have in there though, mines the little spektrum one.

Lee
04-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Kecky, No space for the wire to go down the side of the motor and its not long enough to go the other way:confused:

I also want to be able to use this PT in the 2wd;)

Ill have a look kev and see how tight it is, i have the KO302f

Wraggy
04-03-2008, 01:03 PM
Does'nt the Aero come with a Crow Bar to help you get everthing in ?? :p

Northy
04-03-2008, 01:03 PM
Get an MRT clone Mr. Made-O-Money :thumbsup:

G

SHY
04-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Now a question where do i put the PT?

On the backside of the rear tower works just fine! (vertical) If the wires are too short it's very easy to open it and solder on some longer ones.

Fasten it with double-sided velcro and it's easy to move to another car.

Very nice paintjob! Car looks awesome!!!

Nick Goodall
04-03-2008, 01:28 PM
Have they designed their own shocks? Car looks cool by the way - nice to see some others out there now :-)

Lee
04-03-2008, 01:29 PM
Yes they have Nick, they are similar to the losi cartridge design.

Kecky
04-03-2008, 01:31 PM
Lee, it's a bit hard to see the motor side of the chassis, bit will the wire fit under the motor between it's curve, and the squared off inside corner of the chassis, or will it run too close the the pinion:confused:

Must admit, i prefer the transponder as far forward as poosible, just incase of a photo finish :woot:

Lee
04-03-2008, 01:44 PM
It would fit in the space left where the motor curves but its the motor mount which sits flush against the side of the chassis that stops me doing it, otherwise it would be ideal
;)

Northy
04-03-2008, 01:53 PM
Nice sticker. :thumbsup:

Does it own toe-in yet? :confused:

G

Lee
04-03-2008, 02:00 PM
oh yes 2.934587639 degrees (approximatley):p

Northy
04-03-2008, 02:02 PM
3.142 would be better :p

G

Lee
04-03-2008, 02:03 PM
Its hard to be so accurate with a dremel though:p

Richard Lowe
04-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Looking at the front end setup (camberlinks and springs) that will steer like a mofo :woot:

Northy
04-03-2008, 03:49 PM
Looking at the front end setup (camberlinks and springs) that will steer like a mofo :woot:

I see what you mean Rich :o

KevLee
04-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Looking at the front end setup (camberlinks and springs) that will steer like a mofo :woot:

That isn't a losi orange spring on there though.... if thats what you mean

Cockerill
04-03-2008, 04:18 PM
That isn't a losi orange spring on there though.... if thats what you mean

Could they not have picked a nicer colour :p

stegger
04-03-2008, 04:28 PM
LEE, look were garcia has his PT but he isn't using a powercap;)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a207/cheshiremodelcars/Afbeelding20071bew.jpg

bigred5765
04-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Looking at the front end setup (camberlinks and springs) that will steer like a mofo :woot:

hey rich how do you steer a mofo lol
hard and fast:lol:

Lee
04-03-2008, 04:33 PM
They aint losi springs up front;)

Edit:Missed kevs post lol

Lee
04-03-2008, 04:50 PM
Could they not have picked a nicer colour :p


Yeah they should have been beige like the X5 gear covers:p:lol:

DaveG28
04-03-2008, 05:01 PM
Hi Lee, do you have the dimensions of your rx anywhere, and how much spare space it leaves in each direction in the car (including height!), I'm trying to work out if I'll get my futaba R603FS in it, or if I'll have to swap to spectrum to use a micro one or something?

Richard Lowe
04-03-2008, 05:01 PM
Yeah they should have been beige like the X5 gear covers:p:lol:
1 - 1 :lol:

The camberlinks look like it will hook a lot mid corner looking the length of them compared to the wishbone :)

bigred5765
04-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi Lee, do you have the dimensions of your rx anywhere, and how much spare space it leaves in each direction in the car (including height!), I'm trying to work out if I'll get my futaba R603FS in it, or if I'll have to swap to spectrum to use a micro one or something?

im sure lee
will spend 2-3 hrs measuring it for you
he is such a nice man

RogerM
04-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Doesn't look too bad to me ..... similar to how I have the links on the ZX5-SP and on my previous three 4wd cars (excluding the BJ4WE) .....

Northy
04-03-2008, 05:06 PM
Sorry - Lee is currently unavailable. He is currently worrying to death about if he needs to run drilled or standard Losi pistons in his new ride.......

........please leave you question after the beep.




















BEEP

bigred5765
04-03-2008, 05:15 PM
random bod

DaveG28
04-03-2008, 05:21 PM
im sure lee
will spend 2-3 hrs measuring it for you
he is such a nice man

Or it could be written on the box, like futaba ones are...

With setups, are the team drivers running standard rear toe in, or customizing it to each persons preference using dremels etc?

elvo
04-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Looking at the front end setup (camberlinks and springs) that will steer like a mofo :woot:


Yes! A bad mofo!
(Mind you, the aero I drove did steer like a mofo - not necessarily bad)

On a totally unrelated car the front camber links seem to be mounted not on the kingpin, but on that other hole in the castor block: http://gallerie.automodelisme.com/displayimage.php?album=137&pos=37 Seems more reasonable, doesn't it?

Northy
04-03-2008, 05:23 PM
With setups, are the team drivers running standard rear toe in, or customizing it to each persons preference using dremels etc?

Or just adding 'SOME' :woot:

G

Richard Lowe
04-03-2008, 05:27 PM
Yes! A bad mofo!
(Mind you, the aero I drove did steer like a mofo - not necessarily bad)

On a totally unrelated car the front camber links seem to be mounted not on the kingpin, but on that other hole in the castor block: http://gallerie.automodelisme.com/displayimage.php?album=137&pos=37 Seems more reasonable, doesn't it?
Yep that looks much more sensible :)

Lee
04-03-2008, 05:50 PM
That was something i had planned on trying, but i thought i would build it as kit first

Dave my vital stats are 29x24x17 anything higher than 17 and it will hit the steering rack, i had to take a smidge off the front of the rx as it was as it just caught.

super__dan
04-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Just reading some posts, does the car not have any toe in as std?

Lee
04-03-2008, 08:30 PM
Erm..... It has some on the front if you want it;)

DaveG28
04-03-2008, 09:38 PM
I've never known an rc car run without rear toe in, don't they use it make the car more stable accelerating?

Is it not likely to fishtail badly without it?

bigred5765
04-03-2008, 09:50 PM
its so thin it works like a shark fin and need's no toe in
lol

DaveG28
04-03-2008, 10:42 PM
That was something i had planned on trying, but i thought i would build it as kit first

Dave my vital stats are 29x24x17 anything higher than 17 and it will hit the steering rack, i had to take a smidge off the front of the rx as it was as it just caught.

Hmm, much spare space, mine is 39x26x14? Although there's another lump on top of that, hopefully I'll find a way of gettin the higher bit out of way of the link!

Dave

RogerM
04-03-2008, 11:09 PM
Used to run very little toe in on the rear of the Pred ... about 0.5 deg per side .... agree though that it will benefit from having some toe in at the rear

Lee
04-03-2008, 11:25 PM
I think pidge actually won tiverton national with a 0 Block, i dont think he had the 3 degree one made up till a while later:)

I have made a block up to give it around 3 degrees, i got a 6x6 ali bar from b&q and got the dremel out , its pretty easy to do. But aero will have some out in the next few weeks if you dont fancy that option:thumbsup:

gramey
04-03-2008, 11:33 PM
:)I had a similar issue with my Predator when I had it and I did as you've already thought and velcroed it to the inside of the shell. It made it easy to swap between cars and saved squeezing it in somewhere and trying to shoe horn it in and out evertime you wanted to swap it over.:)

DaveG28
05-03-2008, 12:05 AM
Wonder if I could do the same with that rx....:o

DaveG28
05-03-2008, 12:53 AM
By the way, is that an S9550 I see in there Lee? If so do you know ehere you got your servo horn from, I am struggling to find one that isn;t aluminium!?

Lee
05-03-2008, 09:02 AM
Dave you could remove the casing and heatshrink the reciever if you wanted, that might help:)

Also yes it is a S9550, i just used a horn i had from a kit i hadnt used, like a b4 or a bj4.

Richard Lowe
05-03-2008, 10:14 AM
I think pidge actually won tiverton national with a 0 Block, i dont think he had the 3 degree one made up till a while later:)
:o

Legend :lol:

jimmy
05-03-2008, 10:28 AM
I don't think that's correct but I could be wrong - the toe-in was there on the early prototype but the later ones had less/none

Wraggy
05-03-2008, 10:33 AM
I don't think that's correct but I could be wrong - the toe-in was there on the early prototype but the later ones had less/none
and if i remember right it had toe out at southport.
by accident of course.

Southwell
05-03-2008, 10:39 AM
and if i remember right it had toe out at southport.
by accident of course.

I think he done the Euros with that too. :o

Lee
05-03-2008, 10:53 AM
Ha ha what a legend.

You could well be right jimmy, i just know pidge had some made up, i just thought it was after the tivvy nat.:woot:

DaveG28
06-03-2008, 09:32 PM
Just had an e-mail back from the AERO guys,

kit diff balls are carbide, and the size is 3/32. (guess the size makes sense now I remember the diff screws are imperial, so the balls would be too!).

Glad they're carbide, should last longer!

Dave

V-Rossi
06-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Are you guys happy with the Aero? I heard its balance during long jumps isn't that good. Any other stuff I should know?

Okawari
24-06-2008, 05:00 AM
Hello,everyone!

It is a contribution from Japan.
I want to buy A-One.
However, I transmitted an email to BK Racing, but there is not an answer. :eh?:
I know that The Raceplace sells it.
However, I want to buy it from them directly because I want to buy various parts and Kit.
Would you do any good advice?

Thank you.

DaveG28
24-06-2008, 07:35 AM
I assume they've been unable to answer, I ordered some parts a couple of weeks ago that haven't been processed yet. I believe they are at the UK national round next weekend though so I imagine they will be able to reply to you sometime before then, so maybe give them one more week?

V-Rossi
24-06-2008, 09:33 AM
I know, they didn't answer my mail as well, which was sent 6 weeks ago...

spenner
24-06-2008, 07:24 PM
Just so you don't think Aero are ignoring you all, Bob is currently taking exams and has been real busy with these. As they are a small company there will be delay's for this period.

I'm sure they would have posted something on here but after the abuse they took at the beginning they do not use this forum to post.

DaveG28
24-06-2008, 07:36 PM
I'm sure we can all understand exams take precedance over a hobby!

Do you know when they finish (are they about this weekend?), if they get the time might be worth them putting a quick message on their website about delays, to be fair to everyone they wouldn't know that to be the case until now?

Diesel
26-07-2008, 12:23 PM
No news to all massages.

I even sent postal mail nearly two weeks ago no answer.

I hope nothing wrong ?

V-Rossi
09-08-2008, 06:05 PM
I guess the Aero review will never come, too bad...