www.voodoocells.com

[DR VOODOO]

Hello gentlemen and ladies, my name is David Wert, owner of voodoo cells based in the US. I'd like to take this time to answer any questions you might have of my company. We are a very aggressive fulltime business in the USA, we do one thing batteries and we are currently looking for dist and hobbyshops to help us move products. We are also acepting resumes at this time for euro team drivers. Please send resumes to doctor@voodoocells.com thanks!!!!


www.voodoocells.com (http://www.voodoocells.com)

[jimmy]

Hi, Normally I wouldn't allow advertising just to keep things in order, but since you are looking for distros and drivers in europe then its all cool.
Good luck! :)

[DR VOODOO]

Sorry Sir Dont Want To Cause Trouble Sccoter At Tekin Suggested I Come On Here He And I Go Back Almost 20 Years Thanks!

[DR VOODOO]

Sir Could I Please Have Some Ad Rates Please Thanks Great Site By The Way!

[jimmy]

Thanks for the kind comments, :p I just want to keep things in order - not a free-for-all like you see on some sites.
I sent you a PM.
cheers, Jimmy


p.s. Welcome!

[DCM]

Jim, I can vouch for Dave Wert, he is a busy guy selling cells state side, he is also a part of the Team Tekin driver scheme.

Welcome aboard Deave, hope James Rodriguez Turbo Matchers worked, lol.

[DR VOODOO]

Jim, I can vouch for Dave Wert, he is a busy guy selling cells state side, he is also a part of the Team Tekin driver scheme.

Welcome aboard Deave, hope James Rodriguez Turbo Matchers worked, lol.



thanks dcm we try i get much enjoyment watching people come off thr driversstand going WOW!!!!!!!:smile:

[Chrislong]

The company image you have created is very cool, great logo!

[DR VOODOO]

The company image you have created is very cool, great logo!




THANKS CHRIS THAT LOGO WAS DONE BY Dusty kemp here state side very talented my site was designed by one of my drivers Nick leone if i can be of asst in any way or answer any? please ask!

[jimmy]

Yea I like it too, mainly because I like orange! hehe. Did he do the logo for "Custom Works" too ? I just ask because its the same colours, perhaps he has favourites like me ? :)

[bigred5765]

ok so who emailed him

[TeamVoodoo Vice President]

Hello everyone over on the other side of the world. My name is Joe and im Sr. Vice President for Voodoo. I just wanna take some time to say hello and to say thanks for all the interest in our company. We have many goals for team Voodoo. the obvious first goal is to produce and distribute the absolute best cells for the RC racing market. thats what every company wants. what sets us apart from the compitition is the fact that we have plans already setforth into operation for making Voodoo your #1 choice! sadly i can not go very deep into details but trust me you will start seeing more and more Voodoo cells at your big races and even at the local level. secondly we have many other goals. one that im very proud of and excited about is our goal of bringing back RC into mainstream media! making our "sport/hobby" into a highly marketed, multi-facilitated, and most importantly very profitable sport. we are already have talk with local and foriegn organizations, and in due time there will be some very interesting news to come as far as, Rc being on tv and marketing this fine sport of ours like other sports do. i would love to go more into this right now with everyone but this is getting a little longer then i wanted it to be for right now.

ok as i said earlier. thank everyone very much for all the support of Voodoo and trust me this is only the very begining. 1 last bit of advice though. its alot easier to get in Voodoo on the ground floor, so why wait? lol :)

[PaulRotheram]

ok so who emailed him

Ive contacted them.. hope to hear back soon :)

[DR VOODOO]

Hi guys i believe i responded to every ones e mails looking forward to getting everyone started! thanks

[DR VOODOO]

Wow have I had a lot of replies for guys to try Voodoo!!! Well we have selected a few drivers and we will post in a few days. Still working out the logistics of a UK web site and I have 2 people lined up to dist so far. Thanks!!!

[BenG]

Yeah, these cells are going to be AMAZING. Just check the specs!! ;)

[BenG]

I am now the UK distributor for these cells, so PM me, and we will sort out some cells for you, at a SUPER DUPER price!!!:o:D

[Bathy]

Hi, I like my cells to be pre-built because I’m lazy and useless… Do you build cells as well or just sell them separately?

[jimmy]

haha bathy!!

[DCM]

I can build them for a small fee..... heehee

[emzy]

... me too!

[BenG]

Hi, I like my cells to be pre-built because I’m lazy and useless… Do you build cells as well or just sell them separately?

Hi, the cells are supplied un-assembled, but if you contact David, he may be able to solder them up for you, or you could use the services of some of the members who have generoulsy offered to buidl them;)

[DCM]

I have ubber hot iron, flux and a build jig, heehee

[emzy]

I have an uber hot iron, flux, a (PURPLE) build jig, solder (might be useful)... AND... I'm a girl...!

[jimmy]

Have you ever used a soldering iron emzy ?:jimmeh

[BenG]

LOL, :o That is sexist, :Dshe is a girl, so what. I bet she is a neat solderer;)

[DCM]

Battery pack pics at dawn, roflol....

[PaulRotheram]

should be ordering mi self some packs soon :)

[Chrislong]

should be ordering mi self some packs soon :)

What of? Ice packs? :jimmeh

[emzy]

Have you ever used a soldering iron emzy ?:jimmeh

Yes I have! And I'm geet mint at it! Best in my class I was! I've even soldered my own motors before! Check me out!

LOL, :o That is sexist, :Dshe is a girl, so what. I bet she is a neat solderer;)

Damn right! :D

[BenG]

Yes I have! And I'm geet mint at it! Best in my class I was! I've even soldered my own motors before! Check me out!



Damn right! :D

LOL, Ok;)

[DR VOODOO]

Hi guys, I'm pleased to announce our first UK driver Dan Greenwood from West Yorkshire. Dan will be running our 4200 shv ib cells at the nats next week. Thanks Dan!!!!!!

[DCM]

Nice one DAN!!!!

Talking of soldering, when I was an aerospace aprentice, we had to do a section on electronics, more familiarisation with circuits, we had to make a Maplin kit, the instructor was a former RAF Avionics sargeant, who, rather embarassed, asked me how to solder components, knowing I had come from an electronics diploma, roflol, needless to say, I passed.

[DR VOODOO]

good morning mates hows everyone today !!! everyone getting ready for the euros do you have your stuff ready?

[Chrislong]

good morning mates hows everyone today !!! everyone getting ready for the euros do you have your stuff ready?

Not yet, but feel free to help if you want! ;) Looking forward to it big time.

[jimmy]

I have 3 B4's in parts in the cellar - trying to make one super duper one out of them all! Got a new shell painted up and even some shiney MIP cvd's:)

[DR VOODOO]

WELL AS WE SAY IN THE STATES GIT ER DONE!!!!:o

[DR VOODOO]

Good Luck To All At The Euro S !!!!!

[jimmy]

Haha, cheers!, I know I'll need all the luck I can get. Currently attempting to arrange my racing stuff into the hauler I borrowed, it looked so big until I tried putting stuff in it. :p

[Chrislong]

Perhaps we need more luck getting to the Euros than we do at them! Anyway, im still looking forward to it, im sure as im driving that we won't have a problem - but must be prepared anyway.

[super__dan]

Hi guys, I'm pleased to announce our first UK driver Dan Greenwood from West Yorkshire. Dan will be running our 4200 shv ib cells at the nats next week. Thanks Dan!!!!!!

I've just got my first batch of cells through from the Doctor (latest spec 4200 SHV's), the figures are nuts!

Half of me is looking forward to running them and the other half a little scared. The extra voltage will be like dropping a wind at least!!!

Just got to track down some battery bars tomorrow and build at the track, anyway must get packing.

Dan

[DR VOODOO]

Good Luck Dan And Be Safe In Travels Dont Forget That Little Speed Secret !

[winehundred]

Hi,

I'd like to know the right cut-off voltage to discharge the IB 4200 SHV's, I read here and there 1,1v, 0,9v, 0,6v, 0,5v,...,...
So, please share your experience, thanks!;):thumleft:

[DR VOODOO]

0.9 PER CELL THATS IT!:flower:

[winehundred]

Thanks, Doc!:D

[DR VOODOO]

You're welcome Sir, cheers!

[DR VOODOO]

hey guys be on the look out for something very special from voodoo in the next couple weeks hope all is well with friends and family over the big pond! cheers

[bigred5765]

I've just got my first batch of cells through from the Doctor (latest spec 4200 SHV's), the figures are nuts!

Half of me is looking forward to running them and the other half a little scared. The extra voltage will be like dropping a wind at least!!!

Just got to track down some battery bars tomorrow and build at the track, anyway must get packing.

Dan
So how were they then dan, did they live upto ther figures

[DR VOODOO]

Hey Guys Look For Big News From Voodoo Sept 15 Th Is Gonna Be Big!!!!!

[BenG]

yeah, you lot will love this news;)

[jimmy]

:eek::eek::eek::o

[bert digler]

:jimmeh :jimmeh :jimmeh wapan

[super__dan]

So how were they then dan, did they live upto ther figures

Defo, ran them today at Batley, ran a 11*2 checkpoint with tiny brushess and car was fast as anything. Quicker than Tom's 10*2 he was running.

Very pleased and would confidently recommend to anyone. Email Dave, he's very helpfull indeed!

Dan

[bigred5765]

nice one dan cheers for the info, looking to completly upgrade all are cells toward the end of the year, may be for first out doors next year

[jimmy]

Do people equalize a lot with these cells then ? I really must confess to never doing anything but charging my cells. I neve discharge (unless its by accident and I press the wrong button)

I am finding I am going soft (oooerr) toward the end (oooerr) of my runs (oooerr - enough), at the moment in 4wd. I think I have 1 or more cells in my packs which are dying prematurely like after 4/4.5 mins. I noticed it in a couple of packs last weekend.

[losixxx]

i discharge and equalize my cells directly before i charge them

[DCM]

Jim, you would definately bennefit from equalising before use, but to get the best advantage out of it, before your next run, drop your cells down, tray them, charge, discharge to give them a cycle, then just slap them in the tray an hour or so before charging, should give you better punch through the run, and not going soft at the climax (ooooerrrr)

[super__dan]

Yeah after advice from Dave I'm going to stop discharging after a run and actually put some back in if I think they are very low, then discharge and equalise before use, maybe not every time due to logistics but when I can.

Rich Lowe is very confident that these cells self discharge more than any others previous. If he discharges and smart trays them after a race, then he can often get false peaks when charging next time on almost new cells.

[jimmy]

I could do with a decent equalizer me thinks, I have the orion thing but it takes about 7 years to discharge - bah, I will have to think about it next year when I have some dosh

[bigred5765]

thought your only suppose to discharge and equalise just before recharge

[Col]

So, lets start from the begining. The only discharger that I own is part of the charger and only discharges at 3amps. I charge my cells at 5amps before each race and usually discharge them either straight after on Daz's pro peak at 30amp discharge or later at home at 3amps (discharge to .9volts per cell). They then sit there for up too 2weeks before getting another charge. What am I doing wrong here? (I have no equiliser either...):)

[bigred5765]

everything, charge them between 5 and 6 amps then run them put them away with what ever is left in them, this next part is just my personnel pref, i discharge them, from that straight to the equaliser tray, then straight on the charger for the next run, at the next meeting

[Col]

i discharge them, from that straight to the equaliser tray, then straight on the charger for the next run, at the next meeting

so your batteries are kept in a charged state while not in use (i.e. all week?) or do you mean that they are discharged and equalised at the meeting, stored "flat" and then charged for the next race?

Cheers big red!!

[DR VOODOO]

I RUN A LOT OF OVAL RACING WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR VERY LITTLE CHANGES ALL TOGHTER TO MAKE A BIG ONE i charge the new cells including the one coming on the 15th t at a 6amp charge to a temp abought 53c depending on temp outside after a run i pull the pack to abought 1 volt per cell and let it sit untill next run i love the ctd x discharge tray by much more the new trinity tray works well to for the money you may ask away at any time im sending some samples of test stuff over there soon for approval hope to get good feed back thanks and watch the site for the big announcement 9/15/2006

[bigred5765]

so your batteries are kept in a charged state while not in use (i.e. all week?) or do you mean that they are discharged and equalised at the meeting, stored "flat" and then charged for the next race?

Cheers big red!!

yes just put them away with what ever is left in them after use, if ur leaving them for any amount of time partialy charge them, say 15-20 %

[losixxx]

Hey Guys Look For Big News From Voodoo Sept 15 Th Is Gonna Be Big!!!!!


whats the news then ??

[Chris Doughty]

whats the news then ??

BK running voodoo?

[jimmy]

maybe its not the 15th in USA-land yet ? nah, should be! perhaps they are still in beddy-byes though ?


:)

[losixxx]

perhaps there going to do a BOGOF offer for us lot :D

[DR VOODOO]

Hi Guys Voodoo Has 2 Announcements


1 The Ib World Champ Cell Is Finished And Ready To Ship Same Cell Outside Diffrent Inside The Cell Has Great Voltage And More Runtime 430to 460 At 35 Amps With Voltage In The 1.235+ At 35 Amps With Air At 1.3 To 1.5 !!!!!!! Will Have Care And Use On The Site This Week


2 Former Ifmar World Champ Chris Doseck Is Now Are New Factory Ace And Will Be Running In Vegas Next Week For Us We Are Very Happy To Have Him Thanks Guys Any ? Just Ask

[BenG]

good stuff

[andys]

yeah, you lot will love this news;)


Hi Guys Voodoo Has 2 Announcements


1 The Ib World Champ Cell Is Finished And Ready To Ship Same Cell Outside Diffrent Inside The Cell Has Great Voltage And More Runtime 430to 460 At 35 Amps With Voltage In The 1.235+ At 35 Amps With Air At 1.3 To 1.5 !!!!!!! Will Have Care And Use On The Site This Week


2 Former Ifmar World Champ Chris Doseck Is Now Are New Factory Ace And Will Be Running In Vegas Next Week For Us We Are Very Happy To Have Him Thanks Guys Any ? Just Ask



Is that the BIG news ?????? I hope not.

[jimmy]

We'll be running 5 cells soon if these volts keep getting better :o

[BenG]

its possible to do so now, they did at the last worlds didnt they?>

[DCM]

its possible to do so now, they did at the last worlds didnt they?>

That was done due to the track being so slick and rutted....

Might see people moving up the winds from a 10 to maybe a 11 or 12 in 2wd.... 4wd WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ashleyb4]

DR voodoo are your cells BRCA legal or not.

A

[jimmy]

Yes they are.

[super__dan]

They are indeed as they are available in the already passed blue/silver heatshrink. They are also well worth if if you're looking at getting some new cells!

[Chrislong]

DR voodoo are your cells BRCA legal or not.

A

Hey Ash,
It is the cell which is approved by the BRCA, not the matchers label. The cell being matched by Voodoo is a BRCA approved cell.

[super__dan]

Hey Ash,
It is the cell which is approved by the BRCA, not the matchers label. The cell being matched by Voodoo is a BRCA approved cell.

You're right Chris, but this has been blurred over the last couple of years by LRP, Nosram and as we well know EPIC, all of which as IB cells in a matchers heatshrink.

Voodoo use the cells in their original heatshrink so they are fine!

[DR VOODOO]

Hi Dan
How are things? We have been a little crazy here getting ready for the big Vegas race. Hope things are well over there. Stay safe! :bom:

[super__dan]

All good mate, will drop you an email on my lunch!

[DR VOODOO]

Thanks Dan, just finishing up from sending the boys to Vegas. Had a great showing - both guys made the A in their classes!

[DR VOODOO]

Hey Mates How Are Thing Wc Cells Are Finished And Ready To Ship We Just Had Some Great Results In Testing Of This Cell 450+ Runtime 1.235+ Voltage At 35 Amps Hope To Speak With You Soon Thanks!!!

[DR VOODOO]

Ttt Thanks Guys Hope Things Are Well

[DR VOODOO]

Hi Guys How Are Things?

[BenG]

Hi Dave, just wanted to say I got my packs, and well :eek: WOW, the cells are ace, and they are packaged well, you rock mate:D

[DR VOODOO]

CONGRATS MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS LEAVE CHARGE IN THE CELL PAST ONE DAY OF USE THEY SELF DISCHARGE QUITE FAST!!! :smile:

[DR VOODOO]

Hi Mates Hope Things Are Well The Newest Batch Of 4200 S Are Finished And Quite Impressive!

[BenG]

tried my Voodoo batteries at my local club on Saturday, wow....... Amazing, run time is imense, punch is superb, great cells, and great price too, I'll be getting more for my buggy;)

[DR VOODOO]

Glad You Liked Them We Try!

[DR VOODOO]

Howdy Boys How Are We !:d

[Southwell]

Drunk? :D

[bert digler]

Drunk? :D

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss:o

[andy reeves]

Are these BRCA legal? I am in the market for some new cells for next season.

[DR VOODOO]

YES THEY ARE LEGAL :eek:

[BenG]

sweet, I think I am gonna order 5 more packs, they are amazing;)

[DR VOODOO]

I Know This Does Not Count Here To Most But Happy Thanksgiving Guys!:)

[andy reeves]

I Know This Does Not Count Here To Most But Happy Thanksgiving Guys!:)

Did you get my PM ?

PS Happy Thanksgiving

[B&H Racing]

8 Packs of 6 pack World Cells ordered at the begining of the week.

Hope there as good as everyone says they are :)

[BenG]

8 Packs of 6 pack World Cells ordered at the begining of the week.

Hope there as good as everyone says they are :)

their better :p

[DR VOODOO]

8 Packs of 6 pack World Cells ordered at the begining of the week.

Hope there as good as everyone says they are :)


B&H YOU PACKS ARE ON THE WAY IM HAVING MY CHINA DIST SEND THEM TO YOU THEY HAVE GREAT STICKSW IN STOCK YOU WONT BE DISAPOINTED! ;)

[footey]

how much r these packs as im going to get some new batts soon

[super__dan]

Contact Dave directly, you won't be dissapointed!!!

[BenG]

Yeah, contact Dave, he'll sort you out

Contact Dave directly, you won't be dissapointed!!!
BTW, these cells got me back into my first A final in 2 years ( im chuffed, thanks Dave):D

[DR VOODOO]

Yeah, contact Dave, he'll sort you out


BTW, these cells got me back into my first A final in 2 years ( im chuffed, thanks Dave):D


YOUL HAVE TO EXUSE ME MY ENGLISH IS BAD I KNOW IM ANERICAN I GUESS CHUFFED IS HAPPY LOL !!! :D

[BenG]

YOUL HAVE TO EXUSE ME MY ENGLISH IS BAD I KNOW IM ANERICAN I GUESS CHUFFED IS HAPPY LOL !!! :D

LOL, yeah is it is, well better than happy, exstatic:D

[DR VOODOO]

Got Cha Well We Just Sent A Bunch Of Killers Over Seas Will See If The World Tilts On Its Axis Over The Extra Voltage Over There Now!:)

[DR VOODOO]

TTT BOYS HOW IS THE WEATHER!:cool:

[Oscar]

Cold wet and windy, ... ask again in about 4 months :rolleyes:

[BenG]

the answer will be the same though:D

I got my second A final in 2 years, BTw, great cells, gonna try em with a brushless and a B4 at Batley:D

[DR VOODOO]

AWESOME JOB YOU GUYS GETTING READY FOR CHRISTMAS ?:cool:

[B&H Racing]

Hi Dr Voodoo,

Can you tell me if and when the replacement cell has been sent, to replace the one lost in transit.

We were waiting for that last cell before building up all of the packs.
But we are racing on the 3rd January so need to build up all of the packs during xmas.

Cheers

[DR VOODOO]

CANT APOLOGIZE ENOUGH FOR THE LOST CELL DHL HAS A HABIT OF OPENING ALOT OF BOXES FOR CUSTOMES I HAD A DIST IN CHINA BREAK OPEN A MATCHING PACK AND HE HAS TOLD ME ITS SHIPPED I WILL GET A TRACKING NUMBER FOR YOU ASAP :wtf: THANKS

[DR VOODOO]

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN PLEASE TO MAKE SURE I HAVE RIGHT CUSTOMER I HAVE A CUSTOMER IN THE NEATHERLANDS TOO THAT HAD A CELL LOST OUT OF BOX AS WELL WHANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON RIGHT PAGE AGAIN SORRY FOR PROBLEM :(

[B&H Racing]

Many Thanks for the quick response.

PM sent !

Merry Xmas :)

[DR VOODOO]

merry christmas my friends!!!!!

[DR VOODOO]

OKAY GUYS WHAT ARE WE DRINKING TODAY?:D

[FifteenthNeo]

Strongbow :p :eh?: :o :wtf: :rolleyes: ;)

[Northy]

OKAY GUYS WHAT ARE WE DRINKING TODAY?:D

Anything? :confused:

G

[dave g]

vodka at the moment..and stuffing my face with chocolate and mince pies :)

[Northy]

Maybe a few pints of Black Sheep thinking about it...... :)

G

[Spencer Mulcahy]

The Cream of Manchester for me (Thats Boddingtons made famouse by Joey on Freinds Mr Voodoo).

[DR VOODOO]

The Cream of Manchester for me (Thats Boddingtons made famouse by Joey on Freinds Mr Voodoo).



HMMM NEVER HEARD OF IT IL HAVE TO GOOGLE CHEERS!


COORS LIGHT FOR ME AND CROWN ROYAL! :wtf:

[andy reeves]

Batteries arrived yesterday :) i am looking forward to building them and testing them this weekend at the cov test day :)

[max_crox]

Just wanted to say that I purchased some cells off david last night and I've very rarly had such a good level of customer service :).

Cant wait to get the batteries!!! Bring on the Coventry MAM I say!!

Cheers,
Mark

[super__dan]

Defo,

Dave is a very hellpfull guy selling a great product at very competetive prices. My cells are still going great :)

Dan

[DR VOODOO]

glad to help guys !!!!!! happy new year!!!;)

[strobe]

Ordered 3 sets before Crimbo. Just waiting for them to arrive in the post?

[DR VOODOO]

Ordered 3 sets before Crimbo. Just waiting for them to arrive in the post?



hi mark your cells will ship tuesday the latest batch from ib did not meat are standards so they were scrapped new batch is being worked on and is quite better sorry for delay but i wont put it out if its no good .:cool:

[strobe]

hi mark your cells will ship tuesday the latest batch from ib did not meat are standards so they were scrapped new batch is being worked on and is quite better sorry for delay but i wont put it out if its no good .:cool:

Hi Dr Voodoo
No worries. Hope to have them by sunday.
Mark

[max_crox]

hi mark your cells will ship tuesday the latest batch from ib did not meat are standards so they were scrapped new batch is being worked on and is quite better sorry for delay but i wont put it out if its no good .:cool:

Hi Dave,
Is this the same for my 4 packs, battery bars and sticker set that I ordered on the 27th Dec?
Cheers
Mark Croxford

[DR VOODOO]

Hi Dave,
Is this the same for my 4 packs, battery bars and sticker set that I ordered on the 27th Dec?
Cheers
Mark Croxford



YEP I GAVE TO MAIL STICKERS THOUGH SEPERATE WE WERE OUT THEY WILL LEAVE THURSDAY MATE:cool:

[DR VOODOO]

WHAT UP GUYS

[BenG]

Just to let you know, tyhe Uk distribtuion side of Voodoo Cells are now open to all.


http://www.tyrc-racing.com/rcshop

Thanks,

Ben

[DR VOODOO]

LOOKS AWESOME NOW I DONT HAVE TO SWIM OVER EVERYTIME SOMEONE WANTS A PACK LOL:D

[max_crox]

Just to let you know that the cells arrive and they are awsome!! just need the stickers to cover the body with now!!! :D
Cheers...

[BenG]

Just to let you know that the cells arrive and they are awsome!! just need the stickers to cover the body with now!!! :D
Cheers...

Hi, can I please just ask all Voodoo Customers, do they mind me using their posts as testimonials?

Thanks for the help,

Ben

[Hog]

I shall be ordering some cells soon.

Feel free to play with my testimonials :o

[Elliott Hopkins]

Just ordered. Let's see what these are like then.

When can I expect them?

Elliott.

[BenG]

As per e-mail 7-10 days ;)

[DR VOODOO]

WHATS GOING ON BOYz!

[PaulRotheram]

WAZUP DAWG

[andy reeves]

Hey Doc.

The cells are great. I am really happy with them you guy's are doing a great job. I will be ordering some more from you before the start of the national series. I will also quite happily recomend them to anyone that asks.

[Hog]

Dr. Voodoo - can we have your thoughts on the claims that IB cells don't last anything like as long as GP's, and are more fragile, as mentioned here:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2050

Thanks! ;)

[DR VOODOO]

HOG the ib cell is more fragile than the gp 4300 it does not like to go below 1 volt . But it also can be used manytimes in the same day as long as it has time to cool down to room temp THE CELLS PRODUCE ALOT OF POWER OVER THE GP some folks dont notice it in offroad because of low grip but on high bite surfaces they rock!!!!! i do have packs with 20 plus runs on them with no problem. would i rather have a gp cell that last longer yes but thats like asking a race car driver if they want a 4 cylinder that will last long or an turbo charged v 8 that will last the lengh of the race. what do you think they will choose?

[Elliott Hopkins]

So we shouldn't discharge packs to 5.4V or 0.9V per cell?

Are you suggesting we dicharge to 1V per cell?

Elliott.
p.s. I have some of your cells coming to me from TYRC.

[Hog]

thats like asking a race car driver if they want a 4 cylinder that will last long or an turbo charged v 8 that will last the lengh of the race. what do you think they will choose?

It depends if the driver is paying for the V8 out of his own pocket.........

Surely there would be no issue of a GP4300 lasting the duration of a race? What chance would an IB4200 have? In theory the GP should have greater capacity?

I'm not flaming anyone - I just think that consideration should be given to the average guy in the street who has to finance his racing out of his own pocket as well as balance a mortgage, kids, car etc etc. Claims of massive power are very enticing, but not if they leave Joe Average struggling because the cells need replacing every 4 months or so......

You say you have cells with 20 runs on them with no problem. Wow!:o My Orion GP3700's are 21 months old and just losing their edge now (well over 100 cycles each). I was all for IB4200's but I'm pretty certain (as I race offroad) I'll be heading back to GP4300 or even GP4600 if they are out by the time I get the money together.

Thanks for your answer anyway Doc.

[Chris Doughty]

a common miss-conception is that the GP4300 is a 4300mAh cell, ITS NOT, its a 4100mAh cell called a '4300'... read the small print on the cell...

[BenG]

a common miss-conception is that the GP4300 is a 4300mAh cell, ITS NOT, its a 4100mAh cell called a '4300'... read the small print on the cell...

Thats really dumb lol, I thought they were actually 4300's, obviously not lol.

Glad I only buy, and sell Voodoo IB's.

;)

Also, I would just like to point out ,I am a privateer, and have found Voodoo Cells to be awesome. If I didn't find them good value for money, and great in performance terms, do you think I would really sell them?

;)

[Chris Doughty]

to be honest, its far from Dumb, its very clever of GP, they basically 'beat' IB by releasing a lesser (capacity wise) product and calling it a different 'name'

[andys]

It depends if the driver is paying for the V8 out of his own pocket.........

I'm not flaming anyone - I just think that consideration should be given to the average guy in the street who has to finance his racing out of his own pocket as well as balance a mortgage, kids, car etc etc. Claims of massive power are very enticing, but not if they leave Joe Average struggling because the cells need replacing every 4 months or so......
Thanks for your answer anyway Doc.

Hell, it's nice to see someone else on this forum who thinks like I do !
I nearly bought some IB's and would have gone through with it had Dr Voodoo's site worked properly on the day. Alas for whatever reason it didn't so my order never went through. I'm a bit of an impulse purchaser, and when you see claims of this and that on oople, you think, yes, i'll have a bit of that. Thankfully I did some research, read some more, spoke to people and then drew my own conclusions. As I do have to dig into my hard earned pocket for cells, I won't be buying IB's from any supplier. I'll wait and get some trusty GP's.

So what if they aren't quite there in terms of raw performance, a number of people on oople repeatedly claim they can get there cars going 'far' faster than they actually need to for a race, such is the excess power we have today, they even have to drop the odd wind or 2 ! Well I don't suffer from this terrible problem, but hopefully with the introduction of brushless and some nice new cheap unmatched GP's i'll be sort of on the pace and I won't have to worry about mishandling them, or them blowing up and such like, or hopefully break the bank.

[BenG]

Obviously then these cells are for people who want to have more power, and WIN.

These cells are cheaper than the GP's, they are on offer in the tyrc shop this week at £35 per pack.

For the price, I cannot argue with my 5 packs, and will be buying more soon ;)

http://www.tyrc.co.uk/images/tyrc_racing_forums.gif
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[andys]

I agree that the cells from Voodoo are very well priced, my point old lad is simply that i'd rather my £35 on cells that don't go off after a few meetings.

The last sets of GP 3700's I bought this time last year were bang on £30 and are still well decent, in fact if I can't get anymore i'll run these this year. If money were no object then yes i'd buy a set for each meeting, or whatever, you get the picture, but I work and have a family, so I like to buy stuff that lasts a while. Anyhow, bring on Lipo, that's the future for me.

[BenG]

I agree that the cells from Voodoo are very well priced, my point old lad is simply that i'd rather my £35 on cells that don't go off after a few meetings.

The last sets of GP 3700's I bought this time last year were bang on £30 and are still well decent, in fact if I can't get anymore i'll run these this year. If money were no object then yes i'd buy a set for each meeting, or whatever, you get the picture, but I work and have a family, so I like to but stuff that lasts a while. Anyhow, bring on Lipo, that's the future for me.

My Voodoos are still getting me into the A final after 5-6 months :o

[bigred5765]

for me its not the added performance ibs give, we changed from 3300/3700 to 4300 this year, we can now run 11 or 12 turn motors were the year before we were running 10s, and have seen no real loss in performance or speed, gps just last 3-4 times longer than ibs and thats what counts for me, i don't wanna be buying 2-3 sets of cells every year.

[andys]

My Voodoos are still getting me into the A final after 5-6 months :o

Well done, is that running the Aero 2 or the Aero 4 :)

[super__dan]

I agree that the cells from Voodoo are very well priced, my point old lad is simply that i'd rather my £35 on cells that don't go off after a few meetings.

Andy, you're believeing too much negative hype if you think these cells go off noticably after a few meetings. I've had mine since the summer and they are still great.

[BenG]

Well done, is that running the Aero 2 or the Aero 4 :)

Bope, Xray T2;)

[ryan]

I have had my ib4200 since september and i abolutely abuse them it is still going strong and i find has more punch than my new GP4300. :o Only 1 set of my cells died on me this year and that was the GP!!!
Ryan

[ashleyb4]

Thats not that cheap i can get matched gp4300 for cheaper. And i dont like 4200 i have seen to much go wrong with them i dont like IB's point blank to tell youthe trueth.

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Obviously then these cells are for people who want to have more power, and WIN.

These cells are cheaper than the GP's, they are on offer in the tyrc shop this week at £35 per pack.

For the price, I cannot argue with my 5 packs, and will be buying more soon ;)

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[Northy]

I'm with Dan here, too much hype.

I've been running unmatched IB4200's for a year, the cells are still great. For this next year I will run them in 2wd (due to needing a funny layout) and get some new unmatched 4200's for 4wd.

I can not say that I have come away from a meeting this last year thinking "I'd have done better if I'd had better cells" :cool:

G

[DCM]

No matter which cell you get, IB, GP, EP, they will all let you down if you don't look after yours properly.

As for performance, I have some unmatched (ish) IB42SHV's that hold their own with Inpole and the major brands, and running 19t Tourer, it is like running Stock buggy in the mid 90's, if you don't have the volts, you don't have the speed. The IB42 has plenty of power, but, I don't think that there is a major advantage over matched and unmatched, although, compared to my GP3700 cells, the GP's are paper weights now.

[PaulRotheram]

Got to say the East Power is bloody amazing, i've ran a pack over the past two months and the power and duration is unreal!

I'm with EP for 2007 unless some one can convice me otherwise :cool:

(they are now legal, check BRCA homoglation list)

[Hog]

Obviously then these cells are for people who want to have more power, and WIN.

Hmmm. So a well sorted chassis setup, good tyre choice, and most importantly a consistent and level headed drive under pressure keeping fast but steady lap times counts for nothing as long as you have great gobs of power :confused:

Don't want to be the one to teach you to suck eggs mate, but just because you have the fastest car in a straight line does NOT mean you are going to beat me.


AndyS - glad to have been the one who raised the point for you!

[BenG]

I know that, but are you telling me if you stole Andy Moores touring car, paid him to set-it-up, then stick 1200 nicds in it, you are going to win? Not at any competitive meeting I've been to. Likewise if you gave that car to Andy, I doubt what he can acomplish if underpowered.

Racing is all about packages, I.e
good set-up
Good battries/ motor condition
Good driver
Reliability e.t.c
Voodoo cells complete that package, giving you longer run times, more power when you need it, and give you the power to be consistent.

If you consistently turned over 3 minute laps it doesn't make you fast, you need power to achieve lower times.

And Ashley. You won't get any cells this good , legally, as cheap here. You are talking about tax dodging from Hong Kong mate, so support your LHS. As has already been said, these cells will last if you care for them properly, and I'd check your charging/ dischargung routine mate.

Eggs sucked.

[ashleyb4]

They are not from hong kong they are from britain stormforceracing neil's matching is pretty amazing he prints discharge charts for each pack he sells and all the lines on my chart sit on top of each other. ;)

I have scanned it in, sorry its not very good quality scan but the paper has been folded so it has crease marks.

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[ashleyb4]

If you ask me i dont think any other matcher offers that service and matches cells as well.

A

[Oscar]

And Ashley. You won't get any cells this good , legally, as cheap here. You are talking about tax dodging from Hong Kong mate, so support your LHS. As has already been said, these cells will last if you care for them properly, and I'd check your charging/ dischargung routine mate.

Eggs sucked.

Sorry, I cant help but respond here. Comments as above, should not be taken as gospel truth, especially when the author is a distributor for the product.
Cells "this good" can be bought here, as cheap or even cheaper, quite legally without the "tax dodging" , FACT. I could name names and promote suppliers, but thats not what this site is about, try unbiased impartial advice, for the general benefit of all. Am I close to the principle aim of oOple here Jimmy????
As for the longevity of IB if "you care for them properly", I'd have to say not always correct. I have a pack which is only 7 or 8 charges old and already has blown 2 cells. I have been involved with Rc on and off for over 20yrs and use top quality equipment to care for my cells the correct way (I do have to pay for them out of my own pocket), yet still the failures.
I'm not one for 100% censorship, but perhaps TYRC you could consider the bigger picture before submitting posts?

[BenG]

Sorry Oscar. I apologise.

I would like it if this thread could be closed.

I will some it up like this.

End of the day, life is about competition, and I am not afraid of GP as a competitor to Voodoo.

Nuff said lol.

[losixxx]

[quote=

And Ashley. You won't get any cells this good , legally, as cheap here. You are talking about tax dodging from Hong Kong mate, so support your LHS. As has already been said, these cells will last if you care for them properly, and I'd check your charging/ dischargung routine mate.

Eggs sucked.[/quote]

are you really sure that statements true! i know its not, there's top matchers out there selling as good and better spec cells for similar money you just need to know were to look. im sure you pay full import/vat/handling charges and still sell them for the price you are?!

[andys]

Oscar.

Couldn't have put it better myself !

Drop me a PM with some info on those GP suppliers, our old favorite only has IB's and some 'fire-crackers' in stock at the moment.

Cheers. Andy.

[JCJC]

Looks like just shades of grey to me, GP and IB's, 4300's and 4200's - both super cells and we would be happy to run any of em. Seems the pricing is within a few pounds of each other, and we have had no problem with IB's this last year, not worth getting my nickers in a twist over.:mad: :mad: :mad:

[ashleyb4]

Also ben your telling me to suport my LHS when your the one buying your cells from the states.


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[Oscar]

Oscar.

Couldn't have put it better myself !

Drop me a PM with some info on those GP suppliers, our old favorite only has IB's and some 'fire-crackers' in stock at the moment.

Cheers. Andy.
The fire crackers are suposed to be very good. Ask Paul Rotherham, he's been trialling them for a while now.

[Northy]

I've got some 'fire crackers' on the way for this next season :)

G

[andys]

I know nothing at all about these 'fire-crackers' !

Are they similar to GP's or IB's, or are they different again ?

Basically I want some decent cells, that last a good while and won't go BANG if i'm unlucky.

Andy.

[Northy]

I 'believe' they are re-badged IB's, but at a very good price. :)

I've had no trouble with my IB's at all, so I'm going to try them :cool:

G

[sosidge]

The "Firecracker" is an EastPower cell. As far as I know they are not the same as the IB4200.

[PaulRotheram]

The firecracker is a top notch cell, i've had mine through it's paces now for near 3 months and they still perform like they did on their first run. For the price and what you get it's simply amazing, great cells matched, built to a configuration of your chosing and posted for just over £30 ALL IN THE UK!!

They look and feel smaller than the IB's i've not got a set of calipers so i can't give an accurate reading im afraid. Defiantly lighter though.

The East Power cell will by my choice for 2007 :)

Back on subject though - Voodoo cells

If any more cell questioning is needed, please some one make a thread in the electric section.

[neiloliver]

I may have said this stuff before, but here goes again... The East Power, GP, IB etc etc cells are all pushing the boundaries of capacity for SC sized cells. They are designed to burn bright, but not for long. They are also made by Chinese manufacturers, not Japanese ones so their build quality is not as good as Panasonic, Sanyo etc. Cells from Chinese manufacturers are prone to premature mortality (internal shorts, major variations in capacity etc). I work for a Chinese cell manufacturer so have a little experience in this area). If you want a cell that will do hundreds of cycles then you need to go to the lower capacity Sanyo/Panasonic/Saft etc cells (~3000mAh) which are designed for Power Tools.

The matching process offered by myself, Dr V and many others does a couple of good things (1) it ensures the cells have not died early in their transit box and (2) It ensures the cells are matched when the customer first uses them. Any amount of Zapping/Selecting/magic fairy dust is just bull..

It is vital that you look after your cells, Charging at 6A is not a good thing. 4A is OK but I would not go higher. Use a low -dV threshold and only charge cells that are at room temperature. Equalizing does also help but if you get a cell that decides to go internal short circuit then there is little you can do about it.

I personally think the 4000mAh+ capacity thing is a shame. There some really strong, very reliable Japanese cells on the market which offer superior cost/performance, but we don’t use them because we want the ultimate capacity and voltage profile at the expense of life.

Why don’t Sanyo or Panasonic make a 4000mAh+ cell? My opinion is that they are too worried about one going bang.. shareholders don’t like such things. Also, our 'toy/hobby' market is too small for them to be bothered with really... they are too busy courting Makita/Bosch/Nokia/Dell :)

Rant over... :)

[super__dan]

Defiantly lighter though.


LOL

Are they stamping their feet and saying, 'I don't care how much capacity you have, I'm lighter than you!'

:D

[xx4-nutter]

wow didnt realise how heated this thread had got ! lol

[super__dan]

Paul,

If my last post came across like that I apologise, was purely meant as good banter!

[PaulRotheram]

lol, don't worry, no offence taken at all :D They just feel lighter to hand thasall.

[Hog]

Been moving house over the weekend so I had no connection - apologies for the lack of input from me after throwing the proverbial spanner in the works.........

I didn't intend for this thread to become a flame war against anyone. All I was asking for was Dr V's opinion on how IB's compare to GP's in terms of longevity for those of us on a budget. If money was no object and I could afford to replace cells whenever required no matter how regular that might be then I would probably go the IB4200 route as they do seem to give more outright power.

However, I have children, a house, a car, bills and numerous other things that require full attention from my salary before we get to spending money on racing. As I mentioned at the start of this post I've just moved house which has been expensive enough - I also need new cells to be able to compete on a reasonable level at the South East regional championships this year - hence the tentative toe in the water before committing to buy new cells.

I was also trying to highlight the fact that outright power alone does not win races. I know that as a supplier, you www.tyrc.co.uk (http://www.tyrc.co.uk) are going to plug your business at every given opportunity (who wouldn't?) but just a little more factual information would earn you more credibility in my eyes as the paying customer. All it takes is "IB cells do provide unrivalled power, but possibly at the cost of their overall lifespan".

Those with the £ to spend on the hobby who want "unrivalled power" at all costs can see to choose the IB route. Those of us who have to be a little more careful with our hard earned cash then also have the information to hand to decide which route we wish to take.

There - wasn't too hard was it?

[Hog]

I know that, but are you telling me if you stole Andy Moores touring car, paid him to set-it-up, then stick 1200 nicds in it, you are going to win?

PS - we are talking about comparing IB4200 against GP4300 - not 20 year old NiCad technology. I thought you would give me a little more credit than that. :eh?:

[ashleyb4]

I know that, but are you telling me if you stole Andy Moores touring car, paid him to set-it-up, then stick 1200 nicds in it, you are going to win?


I know someone who can run old 1900 nicads and still win a club night.

[Hog]

I know someone who can run old 1900 nicads and still win a club night.

Same here - but the level that Andy Moore races at was being used as the example.

[BenG]

Ok first off.

My Apologies.

I just want people to try these cells, because, I am so happy with them. I know people expect me to say that, but even before I started to sell these, (you can check back in this thread) I wanted people to know these were good. To me longevity is not as important. I have just come off a 2 year span of having Nosram Cells which I felt lacked any real power, and all the packs eventually packed in after 2 years.

Secondly, what would you like me to put mate? I am more than happy for you to give me the wording for a disclaimer e.t.c ;)

Thanks, I think everyone has now cooled off(mostly me :D), and this can be a thread again lol;):D

[Hog]

I don't think you need to apologise at all - you have your opinion, and I have mine. That's what makes these forums constructive in the long run. Eventually (hopefully) everyone finds an answer to their problem.

As for a disclaimer - I'd rather throw that open to general opinion!

Normal service continues..........

[xx4-nutter]

:p aint it been windy latley :confused:

[BenG]

yeh lol

[DCM]

I like expensive ice-cream and IB cels (currently)...

[BenG]

I like expensive ice-cream and IB cels (currently)...

Haggen Daaz? :D

[DCM]

bless you, nasty cold you got!!!

[Glenn Atterton]

They look and feel smaller than the IB's i've not got a set of calipers so i can't give an accurate reading im afraid. Defiantly lighter though.


Check the positve button and the shape of the case @ the positve button end.
Both cells may be different there.

[DR VOODOO]

WOW THANKS FOR UPING MY POST COUNT JUST CHECKED THIS WAS ON HOLIDAY FOR A FEW DAYS i appreciate all of everyones concernes sp sorry in the us where we do alot of touring cars and pancars nascar racing so forth there is no gp cells running or winning. in offroad your right gp can hang with an ib loose track conditions and such the snowbirds in the us is next week you will not find a gp cell in any a main period. and im sure at a large offroad event you will be hard pressed to find a gp. the great man behind orion oscar jansen beat the gp drum for abought a year what do all his drivers run now yep :rolleyes:


thanks too all who have bought voodoo so far and for in the future thanks

[Hog]

WOW THANKS FOR UPING MY POST COUNT JUST CHECKED THIS WAS ON HOLIDAY FOR A FEW DAYS i appreciate all of everyones concernes sp sorry in the us where we do alot of touring cars and pancars nascar racing so forth there is no gp cells running or winning. in offroad your right gp can hang with an ib loose track conditions and such the snowbirds in the us is next week you will not find a gp cell in any a main period. and im sure at a large offroad event you will be hard pressed to find a gp. the great man behind orion oscar jansen beat the gp drum for abought a year what do all his drivers run now yep :rolleyes:


thanks too all who have bought voodoo so far and for in the future thanks

Again Doc you are referring to all these top-flight events where money is no object compared to outright speed :rolleyes: .

What are people using at club and regional level where there are more people in the same boat as me?

[BenG]

Its like a 50/50 split, I know plenty of people who use IB's, and some who use Gp's.;)

[xx4-nutter]

Its like a 50/50 split, I know plenty of people who use IB's, and some who use Gp's.;)

also changing the subject, my boss is using dylithiam crystals :confused: :confused: lollololololololol mi2 goes like shiz of a stick

YES THE DYLITHIAM CRYSTALS CAN TAKE IT !!! WOOO *streaks *


:D :D :D :D

[Hog]

Its like a 50/50 split, I know plenty of people who use IB's, and some who use Gp's.;)

Thank you!

[DCM]

hmmm, TC country down here, and those who run IB are fast, those who run GP prop up the leader board, I have both and only use IB, they do give a fair advantage running 19t in TC, in mod buggy I would go back to GP37's in 2wd, 4wd would be IB42's

[DR VOODOO]

Again Doc you are referring to all these top-flight events where money is no object compared to outright speed :rolleyes: .

What are people using at club and regional level where there are more people in the same boat as me?




OKAY LETS FACE IT IF YOU GO TO A RACE AND THATS WHAT WE DO you race if you are involved in competive racing the ib is the cell .If not the gp is great too :cool: and buy the way im married with kids i know what being on a budget is like trust me

[DR VOODOO]

whats up boys how are we !:)

[Hog]

http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27232

Makes for interesting reading. Especially post number #31, 2nd paragraph...........

My apologies to the moderators if I'm not allowed to post a link to another forum, but in this instance and considering the safety aspect I should hope you will allow it to stand as it concerns us all. :o

[DCM]

Nick from Demon is right though, people DO get hysterical, once cell goes bang and they are ALL faulty, careless of the thousands of cells in current use. I have raced on and off since 1989 and not had a single cell explode, had quite a few vent and some leak, but that is it, nothing more.

[BenG]

My apologies to the moderators if I'm not allowed to post a link to another forum, but in this instance and considering the safety aspect I should hope you will allow it to stand as it concerns us all. :o

The only reading I found ws that it wad the operators fault

reason for any NiMH cell doing this is that the vent has been blocked when the cells were soldered. It doesn't have to be the visible hole o AS for why the cells went bang, I would say they were probably overcharged. - reasons for this could be as follows:

1) faulty charger
2) wrong charger settings. (e.g peak lockout time set too high / wrong delta peak,)
3) pack charged to start with / equalizer didn't work / wrong pack put on charger - if a pack is part charged to start with, the peak lockout designed to stop the pack from false peaking at the start of the charge will cause the battery to overcharge.So, in summary, the instructions the manufacturer gives were ignored in two key areas (soldering and supervision) and this happened. And, because the materials in the cells are basically inert, there were no subsequent fires, etc.

No faluty packs, just bad operators.

[DCM]

Jimmy: sorted.

[Hog]

Quote #31 paragraph 2 does actually refer back to my original point raised on here regarding the question of cell longevity between IB's and GP's.

The question of safety was more of an aside to the whole debate. I have seen cells of all types go bang - and in virtually every instance it was either down to overcharging, or physical damage to the cell itself, or shorting out.

[strobe]

Dr VooDoo
Cells arrived this morning. Eventually got it sorted thanks to Customs.

Mark

[Hog]

I see Dr Voodoo has currently stopped trading. Hope those of you with cells on order get yours.

Me - I'm off to source some GP4300's.

[BenG]

I see Dr Voodoo has currently stopped trading. Hope those of you with cells on order get yours.

Me - I'm off to source some GP4300's.

All people who have ordered cells please contact me if you haven't yet received them

teamyorkshireRC@googlemail.com

;)

[losixxx]

anyone know whats happened to dr voodoo and his cells:D

[jimmy]

Since mr.VooDoo is taking a break I will close this thread until he says otherwise to cut down on any speculation etc..

[DR VOODOO]

HI GUYS MY THREAD IS CLOSED ? WHile I HAVE SLOWED DOWN US SALES IM STILL here checking in im on a bit of a vacation my wife is battling cancer and we have decided to park the bussiness a little while while we sort this out im still doing orders in small batches 4 packs at a time for orders over seas il be around thanks guys

[DCM]

Now Jim knows you are still about, I am sure your thread will be re-opened Dave.

I hope your wife gets clear of cancer soon.

[BenG]

Me too Dave

[losixxx]

so why the e-mail sent out saying your closing?

[shinytopman]

Sorry to hear it Doc, Hope all goes well your end.

Take it easy

[DR VOODOO]

GGOD QUESTION IM REALLY NOT INTO DEALING WITH THE WEBSITE SPONSORED DRIVERS AND SUCH ANYMORE BUD I STILL HAVE MY DIST IN CHINA AND AUS AND UK IL KEEP IT SMALL AND MANAGABLE MY US MARKET IS VERY LARGE AND I JUST DONT WANT TO MAKE PROMICES I CANT KEEP