Vintage Pred drivers/paint schemes??

[MHeadling]

Hi Guys, Just had a thought about who used to race the Pred back in the day??

I seem to remember Kinwald, Richmond Rogers, Kevin Moore (cool triangle paint scheme) + many more...............

Also any pics of the old Pred race cars/paint schemes or Mag scans??

Had a look on the-pred.co.uk but not much there.....

Please feel free to add what you want about the Pred (apart from moaning about the old noisy gearbox's lol! )

[MHeadling]

Found this, Kevin Moore replica,

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=101835&sid=7800

[Tom3012]

Pretty sure ive seen cragg with one in an old magazine, paint was white and blue kind of like the damon hill williams? I could be mistaken though?

[Rebelrc]

Hi mark
Why don't you have alook through those rc mags in my garage

[RudeTony]

Here you go.
Taken at the anual LRP challange in Germany.
Kevin won that meeting like he was winning most at the time

Forgive me Kev - LOL


http://www.rudebits.co.uk/images/myphotos/old6.jpg

And the man himself
Forgive me Richard

http://www.rudebits.co.uk/images/myphotos/old.jpg

[MHeadling]

Cheers Tony for posting up the pics!

William Mitcham drove for TTech too, yes Cragg too.

Any other drivers??

Was Kev Moore the most succesful Pred driver of that era??

Why did it win so much?? Was it due to the amount of high grip grass tracks in the 90's?

[isobarik]

Cheers Tony for posting up the pics!

William Mitcham drove for TTech too, yes Cragg too.

Any other drivers??

Was Kev Moore the most succesful Pred driver of that era??

Why did it win so much?? Was it due to the amount of high grip grass tracks in the 90's?

Derek Furutani was also driving it back in the 90´s

[MHeadling]

I'm sorry but never heard of Derek Furutani??

I'll have a google, where did he race?? Did he win much with the Pred??

[MHeadling]

loads of good info I'v found here:

http://www.vintage-rc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16

[MHeadling]

Bit of Pred/Kinwald info:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9835

[MHeadling]

Some old school vids here! RRci live 97 video:

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGHULSF9_ec

Part 2: Pred in here at the test track! lol and Cml's Jason Varley in there,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMaGA16kbZA&feature=related

Part 3:

Richmond Rogers! + Schumacher info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkBa00ZhxAQ&feature=related

Part 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU9c96q5byY&feature=related

[MHeadling]

Kinwald won the Winter Nats 96 with a Pred, any videos anywhere?? Had a quick look on youtube but couldnt see anything?

If any one has a old VHS copy let us know........

[Dyna]

Peter Ellis was/is putting a large resource of Tenth Technology info together -

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72801&highlight=predator

I'm sure he would have a good idea of top drivers who used to drive the older models. Ive got lots of info on them but Peters probably got all that and a lot more. Im sure if you PM'd him he would be able to help you out ?

Also, half the 'more experienced' racers on o0ple probable drove a 'Legacy' Predator at some time in their career :lol: Just in my region Dave Belsten, Chris Mills, Russel Williams and Craig Harris used to run XK98's/ETQ's/P8's at some point, and they are all current or ex F1's & 2's so pretty good drivers themselves.... :)

[isobarik]

I'm sorry but never heard of Derek Furutani??

I'll have a google, where did he race?? Did he win much with the Pred??

Derek an american drove the famous stealth RC10 in 91 wc

A-finalist in England Basildon 93 with an yokomo WCS
A-finalist in Yataba Arena in 95 driving Kyosho Lazer ZXS

After that he drove the pred in nats or something like that

Dont remeber more but i have the magazin at my parents house shall dig it and take an scan when i go there.

mvh Isobarik

I looked at the mag it was in the same race/ issue as kinwald won the nats with the XX4 in its first outing.

Derek qualified 5 finnished 8 running maxtec batts/motors and losi tires.

[MHeadling]

Cheers for the info Dyna/isobarik.

Shame all the old info from the-pred.co.uk is not available, lets hope chris burgess can get all the info back up line at some point.

[rowanp25]

Peter Ellis was/is putting a large resource of Tenth Technology info together -

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72801&highlight=predator

I'm sure he would have a good idea of top drivers who used to drive the older models. Ive got lots of info on them but Peters probably got all that and a lot more. Im sure if you PM'd him he would be able to help you out ?

Also, half the 'more experienced' racers on o0ple probable drove a 'Legacy' Predator at some time in their career :lol: Just in my region Dave Belsten, Chris Mills, Russel Williams and Craig Harris used to run XK98's/ETQ's/P8's at some point, and they are all current or ex F1's & 2's so pretty good drivers themselves.... :)
with what you bought off me a way back you should have a bradders paint scheme!

[Bungleaio]

I had my x11 sprayed to match the kevin moore scheme.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/Bungleaio/x11/130320091217.jpg

[franki]

I had my x11 sprayed to match the kevin moore scheme.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/Bungleaio/x11/130320091217.jpg



Omg sell me that car lol!!!! Sexy as!!!!

[Bungleaio]

ha ha I sold it a long time ago, I got fed up of the woeful support from xtreme. Fantastic car but it took a lot of maintenance and waiting weeks on end for xtreme to post things out took the piss.

[MHeadling]

That's one uber cool Pred! Loving the paint job!

I'm thinking of a vintage scheme on my X11, the shells sat here ready to go to Blitz, just need to decide what to go for....

[Dyna]

with what you bought off me a way back you should have a bradders paint scheme!

Was that Bradders old shell on your car then Pete or one that you copied ?

Mark, Neil Crags old ' Evil Knievel ' paint scheme suited the car nicely, try that... cant lay a hand on a picture of it atm but will see if i can find one. He also used it on his B3.

[ben]

Mark, Neil Crags old ' Evil Knievel ' paint scheme suited the car nicely, try that... cant lay a hand on a picture of it atm but will see if i can find one. He also used it on his B3.

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4570

The "original" Neil Cragg colour scheme on bradders car before it was stolen :thumbsup:

[aeb4]

Was that Bradders old shell on your car then Pete or one that you copied ?

Mark, Neil Crags old ' Evil Knievel ' paint scheme suited the car nicely, try that... cant lay a hand on a picture of it atm but will see if i can find one. He also used it on his B3.
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/jaffa2694/NeilCraggPredator.jpg

Taken from May 2002 Racer magazine.

[MHeadling]

Thats a great idea for the paint job! Thanks Ben,AeB4.

I'll have to e-mail Matt so see if he has a copy of this May 2002 Racer Mag.

[MHeadling]

This maybe of interest, 96 Winter Nats where Kinwald won with the Pred

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=23733

[isobarik]

This maybe of interest, 96 Winter Nats where Kinwald won with the Pred

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=23733

and Derek was third with an pred..

mvh Isobarik

[MHeadling]

Thanks to Racer magazines back order service I have a fresh new copy with Craggs Pred, thanks Matt :thumbsup:

Here is a link to an early proto Pred at the 93 Worlds:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=18803

[Dynamite Arrows]

A friend of mine has done a basic website for me to start with, to do a TTech website, especially of the early stuff and on road stuff too. I still need to get this underway.

The colour schemes of the top drivers sometimes transferred with them from team to team, Kevin's, Richmond's and William's scheme's were also seen on their earlier and later cars. Mostly what I have are from magazines.

Tony's brillaint pics here are great, I'm guessing this is Kevin's Predator International from January 1996 ? I don't recall a report from that meeting so they're nice pics to see!

Predators won all the BRCA 4WD National titles from 1994 to 2001 except 1995. Of those, the scores were Neil Cragg 3, Kevin Moore 2, William Mitcham 1, Jamie Booth 1.

From memory I believe Derek Furitani won the ROAR or NORRCA? Nationals in 1996 ? (The equivalent in America to our 4WD National title) however I think , unlike ours , it was a one off event.

Why did it win? because it was a brilliant design, easy to work on and maintain like a full size racecar & supreme talent behind the stick or wheel radio.

From 2002 to present I don't have so much info, Kevin Lee gave the car a win in 2010 with the Team Xtreme Predator X11'08 proving the cars still got it ! I'm hoping to fill in the gaps with the results of Paul Robinson's BRCA results and the few that stuck it out until TTech returned in 2006 with Tom Yardy.

It's just got something the other's haven't and the earliest cars are just amazing looking :thumbsup:

[rowanp25]

Was that Bradders old shell on your car then Pete or one that you copied ?

Mark, Neil Crags old ' Evil Knievel ' paint scheme suited the car nicely, try that... cant lay a hand on a picture of it atm but will see if i can find one. He also used it on his B3.
As far as i know it was... i bought it off his dad and never painted my own scheme apart from a full black one :thumbsup: i think i had a cragg original shell too but lost that ages ago

[MHeadling]

Here we are guys, my Cragg replica! :thumbsup:

Big thanks to Andy Johnson for the paint, its spot on!

Just going to go through my decals and see what old school ones I can find to get it looking the same.

Shame I cant drive like Cragg! :lol:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/cragg2.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/cragg.jpg

[isobarik]

nice paint ....and since you have the winning paint just go out and win .....:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

[styleone]

Looks well Mark!! Im back in the family as just got my grubby mitts on an X10 to refurb...anybody who has x10 spares to donate to a good cause let me know ;) :thumbsup:....having worked on the car last night it reminds me that I was a complete fool to sell my X11-O8 last year...DOH!!

Here we are guys, my Cragg replica! :thumbsup:

Big thanks to Andy Johnson for the paint, its spot on!

Just going to go through my decals and see what old school ones I can find to get it looking the same.

Shame I cant drive like Cragg! :lol:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/cragg2.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/cragg.jpg

[Randall34]

Stuart, if you wanted it, you can own it again. I'm going to put it up for sale. As i don't get much chance to race any more.

[styleone]

Stuart, if you wanted it, you can own it again. I'm going to put it up for sale. As i don't get much chance to race any more.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: PM sent mate :woot:

[MOmo]

I remember seeing Kinwalds Predator, but tried searching Google images for it and came up with 0.



MOmo