Kyosho mp9E,Associated Rc8.2E,Losi 8ight 2.0E or Xray 808E

[Nas]

Hi guys i have a choice between:
Kyosho mp9e
Associated Rc8.2e
Losi 8ight 2.0e
and the Xray 808e.

I want one which is good for racing.What do you recommend? ( for the slough track) rwmcc.

I will be using a MMM combo on 4s.

Thanks.

[eyeayen]

You've had an Xray before so surely that would be the logical choice.

Out of interest why is the Serpent Cobra 811be not on the list for consideration ?

It's designed to be an electric 8th not a converted nitro. The lipo's disribute the weight better being either side at the rear and with Serpent's race pedigree I'd say that's the best car, and to my knowledge cheaper than the Kyosho too.

[Nas]

You've had an Xray before so surely that would be the logical choice.

Out of interest why is the Serpent Cobra 811be not on the list for consideration ?

It's designed to be an electric 8th not a converted nitro. The lipo's disribute the weight better being either side at the rear and with Serpent's race pedigree I'd say that's the best car, and to my knowledge cheaper than the Kyosho too.

Honestly mate. I have only heard of Serpent once. I want to go for a company which is more popular because i know them better. Buying the serpent is a bit of a risk for me.

[shortcoursegoat]

What about the mugen eco? its a really good car. The hyper 9e or star e not bad either, i run one atm with a nitrohouse chassis. Personally im waiting for the dex408, like my desc410r so much i have to try it.

[eyeayen]

They're newer to the off road scene but they've been around making on road cars for years. Check out the blog thread on Max Bashing. One of the members has made a blog on his nitro truggy ( Serpent ), look at the quality he talks about ! Fantastic kits.

Also you have mentioned the Mugen Eco buggy which is electric. Again another superb car.

However if you want to go with something you know I would stick with the Xray, you can more than likely use some of your spares stock on it too.

I've seen an RC8 at the club I used to go to, weather it was poorly maintained or what I don't know but constant problems with steering and things coming off.

Losi, fantastic, widely used in nitro, easy to get bits for.

Kyosho, hugely strong, quite expensive though.

Xray - you know all about them already. What are people racing at your local track ? Go along and drive one, there is a huge difference to the way a nitro one handles, that's why I said the Serpent because it's set up to be an electric car, that's how it was designed so it's perfectly balanced. You need to see if you can blag a drive on each different kit, then you can decide. It's difficult going on what people on here or any other forum says because everyone will rave about their specific car being the best. And everyone's preferences are different so the way I like a car to drive will be different to how you like it. As well as how they're set up so you could even get as far as having a drive with another car and finding it's awful but it's down to how the owner has it set up.

Your choice at the end of the day. Keep us posted, I'll be interested to see what you get and how you get on with it compared to your old nitro one.

[Nas]

Hello all.

I have come to a conclusion to get the Associatad rc8.2e

why?

Because associated have got over 40 years of racing experience and the rc8 has oready won some championships in the hand of Ryan Cavalieri.
and Reece sawyer a good friend of mine changed from Team Xray to Associated rc8.2 he saying the associated was more consistent etc...

Any suggestions/help would be appreciated.

Thanks

[RudeTony]

As a matter of interest - Kyosho have won more 1/8th World Championships than ALL the other manufacturers put together.
Some room for thought eh!!

Good luck with your choice

[Nas]

As a matter of interest - Kyosho have won more 1/8th World Championships than ALL the other manufacturers put together.
Some room for thought eh!!

Good luck with your choice

Correct, but the Kyosho is a Very expensive car and i am getting bored of its design.

Thanks:thumbsup:

[eyeayen]

Correct, but the Kyosho is a Very expensive car and i am getting bored of its design

But you currently race an Xray ? How are you getting bored of a car you don't own ? I don't understand that comment.

Good luck with Associated though. Keep us posted on here how it all goes and what results you're getting !

[Nas]

But you currently race an Xray ? How are you getting bored of a car you don't own ? I don't understand that comment.

Good luck with Associated though. Keep us posted on here how it all goes and what results you're getting !

I said i am getting bored of its design. I have had 1 before. Awesome car dont get me wrong. But its too expensive,and the design never seems to change....

Will keep you guys posted.

[JonyNitro]

Try a Truggy,instead of a buggy

[Nas]

Try a Truggy,instead of a buggy

I would love to . But i cant. My local track ( slough ) does not allow truggies,

[JonyNitro]

I would love to . But i cant. My local track ( slough ) does not allow truggies,

shame they are very good

[Nas]

shame they are very good

Yea ive always liked truggies.

[captainlip]

Honestly mate. I have only heard of Serpent once. I want to go for a company which is more popular because i know them better. Buying the serpent is a bit of a risk for me.

exactly why I avoided serpent, but after much research and reading about companys I went for serpent over durango, and im a huge durango fan.

imo serpent should be top of your list!


mines being delivered tomorrow :thumbsup:

[captainlip]

Hello all.

I have come to a conclusion to get the Associatad rc8.2e

why?

Because associated have got over 40 years of racing experience and the rc8 has oready won some championships in the hand of Ryan Cavalieri.
and Reece sawyer a good friend of mine changed from Team Xray to Associated rc8.2 he saying the associated was more consistent etc...

Any suggestions/help would be appreciated.

Thanks


your give these top guys any buggy they will win with it. :lol:

[Nas]

exactly why I avoided serpent, but after much research and reading about companys I went for serpent over durango, and im a huge durango fan.

imo serpent shold be top of your list!


mines being delivered tomorrow :thumbsup:

Again. I cant afford to spend a couple of £££ on a risky job.. i am not hardcore like you :lol:

Keep us updated on your serpent...

Thanks.

[captainlip]

Again. I cant afford to spend a couple of £££ on a risky job.. i am not hardcore like you :lol:

Keep us updated on your serpent...

Thanks.

explain what part you mean about it being risky? its an EXTREMELY well thoughy out and machined buggy

check out the product page and the endless list of specs and features

[Nas]

explain what part you mean about it being risky? its an EXTREMELY well thoughy out and machined buggy

check out the product page and the endless list of specs and features

Risky as in the way of i have never seen it in flesh,tried it out etc... All the other cars i have seen in flesh and tried them out.

With the serpent its a bit of a gamble (personally speaking)

Thanks

[captainlip]

honestly I totally disregarded the serpent until i spent along time browsing for info on the dex408 and read about peoples experiance with the serpent, the more I looked the more I realised this was the choice to get!

with myself and a fellow member getting one you could be the 3rd on here and we can try setups

seriously read every word on this page and look at how well designed it is

http://www.serpent.com/product/600004

enjoy.....

[captainlip]

Risky as in the way of i have never seen it in flesh,tried it out etc... All the other cars i have seen in flesh and tried them out.

With the serpent its a bit of a gamble (personally speaking)

Thanks


there is a huge thread on RC tech

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric-off-road/517713-official-serpent-811e-buggy-thread.html

secondly im going to be posting a build thread blog as its one of the most unheard of 8th EP buggys and peeps are missing out.

[Nas]

honestly I totally disregarded the serpent until i spent along time browsing for info on the dex408 and read about peoples experiance with the serpent, the more I looked the more I realised this was the choice to get!

with myself and a fellow member getting one you could be the 3rd on here and we can try setups

seriously read every word on this page and look at how well designed it is

http://www.serpent.com/product/600004

enjoy.....

I was reading this and i found 1 massive problem. BATTERY TRAYS i only use 1 battery (4s) quicker to charge than 2 especially in a race track

[captainlip]

I was reading this and i found 1 massive problem. BATTERY TRAYS i only use 1 battery (4s) quicker to charge than 2 especially in a race track


I have two 2cell lipos in series and charge them as a single 4cell lipo, so long as they are balanced first and then kept together and not mix them with other sets you will be fine.

secondly there is your first MAJOR flaw, 1 huge lipo = 1 very unbalanced buggy and wont corner/jump consistent.

i heard someone put a serpent on the scales and all 4 corners all had the same weight on them.....perfectly balanced means massively consistent steering and jumping.

[Nas]

I have two 2cell lipos in series and charge them as a single 4cell lipo, so long as they are balanced first and then kept together and not mix them with other sets you will be fine.

secondly there is your first MAJOR flaw, 1 huge lipo = 1 very unbalanced buggy and wont corner/jump consistent.

i heard someone put a serpent on the scales and all 4 corners all had the same weight on them.....perfectly balanced means massively consistent steering and jumping.

send me a link to were i can buy one from please. ( just to have a look)

[captainlip]

heres the link to the page.....

http://www.serpent.com/product/600004

have a major look at it and look at the detailed pics up close.

have a good think about it, im not trying to twist your arm, if you do get another my 2nd choice would be the mp9e. honesly ive looked at AAAALLLL the 8th EP buggies available even the budget ones compared them all the the serpent always shined above them all, I even tried to convince myself to ignore it and get the durango but I was just kidding myself when I could see the serpent is the best...

but have a good look and decide wisely.

[Nas]

heres the link to the page.....

http://www.serpent.com/product/600004

have a major look at it and look at the detailed pics up close.

have a good think about it, im not trying to twist your arm, if you do get another my 2nd choice would be the mp9e. honesly ive looked at AAAALLLL the 8th EP buggies available even the budget ones compared them all the the serpent always shined above them all, I even tried to convince myself to ignore it and get the durango but I was just kidding myself when I could see the serpent is the best...

but have a good look and decide wisely.

No i meant link to a shop were i can buy the serpent from ( just to have a look at the price etc..)

Thanks.

[captainlip]

https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=cs&pn=SER600004

works out about £350 plus customs of £55ish

Uk Price is £500 if you want to support those prices.

[Nas]

https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=cs&pn=SER600004

works out about £350 plus customs of £55ish

Uk Price is £500 if you want to support those prices.

Well that's a clear no!. I need one by next week.

Uk price of £500.00 is to much for a company i have no idea about.

and i am not going through all that customs hazzle!

Sorry and thanks for your support.

[captainlip]

Well that's a clear no!. I need one by next week.

Uk price of £500.00 is to much for a company i have no idea about.

and i am not going through all that customs hazzle!

Sorry and thanks for your support.


why for next week? customs is no hassle. mine came into country monday, paid customs today and its booked for delivery tomorrow.

[Nas]

why for next week? customs is no hassle. mine came into country monday, paid customs today and its booked for delivery tomorrow.

hmmmm. I think i'll have to see yours first and your opinions after the run etc..

[captainlip]

hmmmm. I think i'll have to see yours first and your opinions after the run etc..


theres bags of feedback in the rc tech thread.

[eyeayen]

Future World Models don't have them on their site but they're a Serpent Dealer, price is £485 and they'll get one for you if you call or email Russ he can give you the details you need.

http://www.futureworldmodels.com/index.html

[Nas]

What are all your opinions on the Losi 8ight 2.0E and the AE rc8.2E?

Thanks

[eyeayen]

I've mentioned about the AE previously, not sure on the Losi, the Losi truggy is good, very strong so I'd say with the pedigree of the Losi Nitro buggy and the truggy the E would be good, no personal experience with it though. It's not balanced like the Serpent / Durango layout and I don't like that. I think it's going to mess the handling up completely.

Lip has a thread about building his Serpent in the specific Serpent section and they're available from Elite for £435 in case you were still considering it ?

[Nas]

I've mentioned about the AE previously, not sure on the Losi, the Losi truggy is good, very strong so I'd say with the pedigree of the Losi Nitro buggy and the truggy the E would be good, no personal experience with it though. It's not balanced like the Serpent / Durango layout and I don't like that. I think it's going to mess the handling up completely.

Lip has a thread about building his Serpent in the specific Serpent section and they're available from Elite for £435 in case you were still considering it ?

Tbh im going towards the AE.Ive spoken to a few team drivers etc and i got some positive feedback.

[captainlip]

you NEED a serpent in your life :woot:

[Nas]

you NEED a serpent in your life :woot:

Stop bullying my!!!:cry::cry::cry:

lol.

I also need a AE in my life ...

[captainlip]

Stop bullying my!!!:cry::cry::cry:

lol.

I also need a AE in my life ...

have a serpent and all will be jealous and checking it out, its new and totally dedicated for ep racing at its best. :thumbsup:

build quality is excellent and it looks a total beast!

[Nas]

have a serpent and all will be jealous and checking it out, its new and totally dedicated for ep racing at its best. :thumbsup:

build quality is excellent and it looks a total beast!

What joy does it bring to you to see jealous people LOL :lol::lol::lol:

Tbh as i say. AE have been in the game for many years winning many championships.

Serpent?

[captainlip]

What joy does it bring to you to see jealous people LOL :lol::lol::lol:

Tbh as i say. AE have been in the game for many years winning many championships.

Serpent?

serpent have been in the game years, massive in america, just not as popular over here, well when a few see the quality of these new kits things will change....

[Nas]

serpent have been in the game years, massive in america, just not as popular over here, well when a few see the quality of these new kits things will change....

Go away and build your Serpent :lol::lol:

I also do not like Snakes lol ( and they have a snake logo) :lol::lol:

[eyeayen]

Serpent have been multiple winning champions in the on road 8th scene for many years (clicky) (http://www.serpent.com/company/). They have a race pedigree and I'm sure they wouldn't have rushed and released a car unless it was going to take podiums for them.

Let us know how you get on with the AE though.

[Nas]

Are Serpent in a relationship with Hudy? It just seems like there stuff if made from Hudy.

[Neil Skull]

Are Serpent in a relationship with Hudy? It just seems like there stuff if made from Hudy.

:woot:

If you know the story of Xray and Serpent like i do that's a very funny statement.

[Nas]

:woot:

If you know the story of Xray and Serpent like i do that's a very funny statement.

I dont know the story of Xray and Serpent. ( just found out about serpent not so long ago)

so whats the story then?

[Ian F]

I would have ordered my kit today but the idiot who was meant to pay me for my Xray has decided to ignore me and stay offline :mad::mad:[/QUOTE]

Not the right way to write about a fellow racer, maybe he is on holiday nasir?

[Nas]

REMOVED

[Neil Skull]

I dont know the story of Xray and Serpent. ( just found out about serpent not so long ago)

so whats the story then?

I dont want to get involved in any mud slinging.
As for they Serpent they have been around for many many years, longer than x-ray.
Do some research and you will find the history of these 2 companies.

[Nas]

I dont want to get involved in any mud slinging.
As for they Serpent they have been around for many many years, longer than x-ray.
Do some research and you will find the history of these 2 companies.

kk Thanks :)

[bigdave.1826]

Sorry all got wrong end off the stick with the comments made thanks David

[Nas]

l

WRONG PERSON NOT YOU!!!! lol pm send!!!!!

[Nas]

Guys!! AE has been ordered :woot::woot::woot::woot:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=590332#post590332

Thanks

[jasonwipf]

I'm loving my serpent. ran mugen for years and I thought that thing was tough. The 811E seems bullet proof.

Kyosho is a great car but drive train wears quickly,

Associated also great car, people love or hate them, the haters say the didn't like the plastics and screws quality,

Losi Awesome,

Xray Awesome,

I got the serpent cuz it felt like a Losi and Xray hybrid with some more Durango in the middle.

[eyeayen]

I'm loving my serpent. ran mugen for years and I thought that thing was tough. The 811E seems bullet proof.

You know now you've said that the next time you go out with it you're sure to break something....

[Nas]

ENOUGH i am NOT NOT NOT getting a Serpent....

[eyeayen]

ENOUGH i am NOT NOT NOT getting a Serpent....

That's what you say now... :lol: :woot: :p

[Nas]

That's what you say now... :lol: :woot: :p

SERPENT :bored:

AE :wub:wub:wub:woot::woot:

:p:p

[Johnny Wheels of Steel]

MP9e all day long, Bit expensive compared to the others but by far the best ( in my opinion) :)

[Nas]

Its a bit late for that, got my rc8.2e now :thumbsup:

[lashy]

Correct, but the Kyosho is a Very expensive car and i am getting bored of its design

The 8.2 is based on and designed around the MP9......sorry to disapoint! difference being that the Kyosho dont break! 8.2????? unproven!!!

[Nas]

I'm not dissapointed, i just wanted a new car. The mp9e is not new. Its like 4 years old now or something,still one of the bests.
I wanted something new like the rc8.2e, and its based around the mp9 as you say.
Successful all around :thumbsup:

I also fined you a bit biased.

'kyosho never break' not true at all. Ive seen some big breaks on the mp9 over the years. Tki2 seems to be stronger though and i havent seen any damages to that yet in my local track.The guys who run the rc8.2 down the track seem very happy with it and haven't reported any breakages.