My new Ride.

[Garry Driffill]

Hiya everyone,

My new Xtreme X11 is here, None of that carboard box rubbish... Proper plastic box / carry case and full colour manual ! :lol:..

Ill get some pictures up as soon as its built !

Garry

[Northy]

Would be cool to see the manual, the car in the pictures is my X11 :lol:

G

[XTREME RC]

Hi Garry

I'm pleased to hear you like it (the box anyway). We came up with that idea so that when you have built your X11 you have a nice strong box to put your racing bits in with lots of compartments. I'm glad you like the manual too! Colour photo's to make it easy for X11 drivers worlwide. Have Fun!:thumbsup:

Yanina

[Garry Driffill]

Just got some photos take of what i have received today, I tell you what guys how many companys offer that ! . Regarding the actual Kit it looks VERY well made indeed, parts quality is fantastic and the alloy finish is super hot ! and the shell... man its out of this world !

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2854.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2853.jpg

Thanks soo much Yanina ! cant wait to get it all built !


Garry

[rcracer]

Hi Garry

I'm pleased to hear you like it (the box anyway). We came up with that idea so that when you have built your X11 you have a nice strong box to put your racing bits in with lots of compartments. I'm glad you like the manual too! Colour photo's to make it easy for X11 drivers worlwide. Have Fun!:thumbsup:

Yanina

he always liked the boxes at christmas when he was a lad :D

[dallasv8]

that does look very nice,especially the packaging, thats just awesome detail.

[ben]

The box looks awesome garry!!! :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:


Car looks ok aswell lol

[DCM]

if the car goes as good as the packaging then he is onto a winner..... roflol

[Garry Driffill]

I really dont get people like that..... :eh?:. Grow up mate..

[ben]

SOrry garry:wub atleast u will be able to follow your car with those bright orange wheels!! lol

[DCM]

I really dont get people like that..... :eh?:. Grow up mate..

hey, not insulting you or the car, just a light hearted quip about people commenting on how good the 'box' is.

Ah well, humour lost

[Garry Driffill]

Maybe i took it to heart... :lol:

sorry DCM im abit stressed ! :woot: ask my dad he will tell ya LOL

[DCM]

no worries dude, just made me giggle about the box, good idea though....

[Lee]

Very nice, ill stick a photo up of the aero box, its white with aero written on it:(

One thing i noticed garry was, they are using AERO wishbones, its in bold on the front of the manual:thumbsup::lol:

[DCM]

Garry, step away from the post button.... he didn't mean it man.... roflol

[XTREME RC]

I'm sure you were joking, but just for those who may take it seriously. They are 'aero' as in 'aerodynamic' in styling. The X11 is 110% unique and original. (or we could have used 'kit-kat':D)

[Lee]

Thanks for clearing that up, i guessed when i got down to the aero body styling bit, it looks nothing like an aero does it:o



:lol:

[Huw333]

:drool::drool::drool:

[Garry Driffill]

Got a few more snaps of the new car,

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2855.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2856.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2861.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2860.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/DSCF2862.jpg

Just need to get it all set up correctly camber / caster wise. Right now its all ski wiff ! :lol:


Garry

[Huw333]

Looks fine to me mate! :wtf: :lol:

[ben]

Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:

[Molgorain]

Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:

Maybe the shock tower is 100% symmetric, and can be turned around 180.
If it break on the side holding the shock, you can always turn it around.
Without replacing the shocktower....

Just my thought, when I saw it.

Edit! Second look, the "wall2 look to thin. So I take back my comment above.

[sparrow.2]

How would you remove the shock nut of the inside shock if that hole wasnt there :confused: Penny dropped? :D

Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:

[Lee]

It does look really nice, but to be honest i wouldn`t know what adjustment did what to begin with, its not like a conventional car:confused:

That was one thing that has put me off getting one for a while.

[Garry Driffill]

How would you remove the shock nut of the inside shock if that hole wasnt there :confused: Penny dropped? :D


That is exactly correct !

Just makes life alot easier when removing shocks, The set up for the camber and caster have all recomended starting points, so im just going to try them first i think Lee. The main reason why people say things about this car is because its not a repeated design like everything else. Its more of a "Concept Car", people may be affraid of trying somthing new like this because its soo differnt to anything else out there which is understandable and very fair.

In the back of the colour manual there is set ups offerd for differnt types of tracks, gearing and such. In there it offers some good help :)

Garry

[bigred5765]

on the adjustment thought,
is it possible to move the top link hight on the inside
i cant see it myself,?
or adjust the king pin hight on the front / rear wheels
i can only see camber and ride high adjustment
surely that not the limit of adjustment on this new car
also how do you adjust the anti squat ?

[Huw333]

In the back of the colour manual there is set ups offerd for differnt types of tracks, gearing and such. In there it offers some good help

Garry

I like the emphasis there garry - no expense spared! I've got an XK5 manual at home in black and white (and orange) :p :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

lol i missed that
show off lol

[Garry Driffill]

Carl,

The top link height on the inside ? are we taliking front or rear :)..

Regarding the king pin hight, it cant be changed i dont beleive, but if somone would like to correct this then fine.

Its awkward to say off hand, about the anti squat, just give me a min.. LOL obviously with it being new still having a good look round on curtain things but ill get back to you on that one.

ill get some pictures posted up on the areas youve said as soon as everything is finished off, not long till its all ready mate :).

Garry

[Southwell]

Looks good, allbeit looking like a blinged X10 to me....

[Garry Driffill]

Looks good, allbeit looking like a blinged X10 to me....


New matirial too ! :D, Gotta say its abit better looking that some of the chunky cars hey carl ;)

Garry

[XTREME RC]

Just to clear up any confusion, the X11 is the evoloution of the X10 they are different cars. They may look similar but aren't even wisbones are different and a whole lot more!

[Southwell]

O yes i understand that, just looks similar :)
Anyway you have done a great job with the car, i hope it goes as well as it looks.

[XTREME RC]

Thanks:)

[Richard Lowe]

It does look really nice, but to be honest i wouldn`t know what adjustment did what to begin with, its not like a conventional car:confused:
It's exactly like a conventional car, the only thing thats different is the shocks are connected to the wishbones via rockers. All the usual camberink/caster/antisquat ect adjustments still apply ;)

[RogerM]

Assuming that they still have a choice of lower hinge pin holes in the rear hubs you can adjust the roll centre that way.

Roll centre on the front can be adjusted by spacing the outer upper ball joint up or down.

The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer

To be fair for the many years I ran Preds all I felt the need to change to dial the car into various tracks was the rear roll centre, front oil & spring and rear spring. It was one of the most simple cars to set-up I have ever driven!

Good luck with it.

[Southwell]

Assuming that they still have a choice of lower hinge pin holes in the rear hubs you can adjust the roll centre that way.

Roll centre on the front can be adjusted by spacing the outer upper ball joint up or down.

The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer

I used to play with those holes all the time, i can't remember which i used now, it's been 9 years since i last drove the pred, but they are a great tuning aid for high/low grip tracks.

[Nick Goodall]

Car looks cool - i think the most important thing on the Pred was always the ride height and roll bars.

Very rarely did we ever need to adjust the Camber, Anti-Squat, Toe-in or anything, just get the shocks right and make sure it's not sat too high, then depending on how "loose" you wanted the rear end to feel just change the thickness of the roll bar - we would also run one on the front at times if it was a high bite track, but it was easy really as we rarely changed anything else!

[Richard Lowe]

The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer
On the rear it's exactly the same as moving a shock in or out on a wishbone, only you move it up and down. It's ony the front thats really any different given the progressive nature of the rockers.

To be fair for the many years I ran Preds... It was one of the most simple cars to set-up I have ever driven!
Because there was almost nothing to change on the old Preds :lol:

[Garry Driffill]

Didn't you see the anti-squat adjustment when you built the car? Or did someone else build it for you? :confused:


What cutains does it come with? I could do with some new ones in out downstairs toilet. :thumbsup:

G


I Built the car...

Ive seen some of the posts this user has done previuosly moderators... nothing going to be done ?
:thumbdown: HEY NORTHY !!!!! :thumbdown:

[rcracer]

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[Garry Driffill]

ditto...

[turbo_brick]

Didn't you see the anti-squat adjustment when you built the car? Or did someone else build it for you? :confused:

The anti-squat is changed via a plate sitting behind the spurgear.

Peter

[Northy]

Not me, I've been to B&Q with Julie this lunchtime.

G

[super__dan]

I would strongly recomend a setup station to get it bob on Gary

[jimmy]

Not me, I've been to B&Q with Julie this lunchtime.

G

certainly wasn't Northy - I know this much

[Northy]

certainly wasn't Northy - I know this much

Thanks Jimmy. Someone trying to get me in the shit I guess :thumbdown:

[Garry Driffill]

certainly wasn't Northy - I know this much


Ye ive spoken to Northy bout it. Looks like somone trying to land him in it... But all is well !

back on topic ! :).


I would strongly recomend a setup station to get it bob on Gary

Ye definatly dan, Been looking on Ebay for one :). Would be a very good tool to have !

[Northy]

The set-up stations used to be sold through the Pred forum.

G

[Lee]

:thumbsup:In the downstairs toilet:woot:

Lookin good anyway Garry, i would second Dan`s proposal about a setup station, i know G said he noticed a difference when he tried on with the pred.

Other cars im not so sure about.

Edit: Beat me to it G, i hope this wont be a reoccuring thing lol

[DCM]

one of these? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SetUp-Station-for-1-10-X10-XRS-OFF-ROAD-BUGGY-set-up_W0QQitemZ260140484286QQihZ016QQcategoryZ34063QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQc mdZViewItem

[Northy]

That's the puppy, I actually bought an on-road (spit) one and set the guy some measurements so he could make the off-road size pred one.

He kindly sent me a free wider top plate in return! :thumbsup:

Excellent service.

G

[Garry Driffill]

That looks ace that set up station, I think ill get one bought :lol:. Precision is key ! LOL cheers DCM :).

Garry

[bigred5765]

Carl,

The top link height on the inside ? are we taliking front or rear :)..

Regarding the king pin hight, it cant be changed i dont beleive, but if somone would like to correct this then fine.

Its awkward to say off hand, about the anti squat, just give me a min.. LOL obviously with it being new still having a good look round on curtain things but ill get back to you on that one.

ill get some pictures posted up on the areas youve said as soon as everything is finished off, not long till its all ready mate :).

Garry

nps
gary cool you running it at batley this weekend?

[Garry Driffill]

Carl,

As Peter said the anti squat is ajusted from behind the spur gear there is a inner pivot block that can be risen or lowerd to give anti squat levels i beleve, Ive set mine kit standard until i need to change it.

Depending on the weather mate, As you know wet sticky muddy crap isnt the best for setting a new car up. I cant see me racing Batley after talking to Dad about it, Brand new car plus snow, rain or thick mud isnt a good idea LOL...

Looks like ill be racing York on saturday night instead get a good feel of the car indoor with these new parts on and have a little play with some set-ups there. :)

Garry

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Looks very good to me Gary, I ran a pred at the end of last year if I had a bit more time and the means to purchase parts off the internet I would still be running the car now fast is not the word for the car. This one will be ten times better than the one I hade as it was a x10ish, so I hope you go well with it.

[Garry Driffill]

Thanks spencer,

Im really looking forward to it mate :), just waiting on the paint to dry for the shell and ill have some pictures for everyone to look at :thumbsup:..

Garry

[Cooper]

How would you remove the shock nut of the inside shock if that hole wasnt there :confused: Penny dropped? :D



this is 100% correct ;)

[mattym0310]

car looks great garry!
im in the midst of building my x11, so far its going really well! love the car and cannot wait to get it on the track! my first shell is going to be shocking though :(
if anyone fancys swapping some orange x11 wheels for some brand new Arctic White Pred ones, PM me :)

[Garry Driffill]

picture to follow

Garry

[Lee]

Very sleek and stealth like:thumbsup:

Shame about the pins though we want to see spikes on there!!!!

Its gonna be dry on sunday:thumbsup:

[Tom3012]

Looks sweet as!!! needs white wheels though, im not a fan of the orange! Good luck in 08, and im sure you wont be disappointed!!! :thumbsup:

also, can you take some more pics please? like the other side of the shell, front and back, without the shell, i want to see what she looks like :p

[rcracer]

i quite like the orange wheels.. there like trade mark of the X11

[looneylen]

looks very nice with orange wheels, good luck garry, go for it

[Northy]

car looks great garry!
im in the midst of building my x11, so far its going really well! love the car and cannot wait to get it on the track! my first shell is going to be shocking though :(
if anyone fancys swapping some orange x11 wheels for some brand new Arctic White Pred ones, PM me :)

I think you'll find that Xtreme will prefer you to run the orange wheels.

I always seemed to go quicker with them on, maybe my eyes are bummed :lol:

G

[GRIFF55]

looks nice! loving the orange:wub

[Lee]

So what you are saying G is Orange is faster:o

I always thought Blue is better:lol::thumbsup:

[Northy]

Nah, red and purple is better :D

G

[jimmy]

orange is ace

[josh_smaxx]

Orange is better :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

C'mon lets see the wiring :D

Looks really cool, are they doing a one way diff yet?

[mattym0310]

I think you'll find that Xtreme will prefer you to run the orange wheels.

I always seemed to go quicker with them on, maybe my eyes are bummed :lol:

G

no graham what i meant was i have bought a bulk pack of White wheels and i wanted to swap them with some1 for some orange ones cause the orange ones are very nice! :thumbsup:

[Cooper]

eeeuhhh that is pretty.... BLACK

if you'd use black wheel you'd have trouble finding your car...

[Garry Driffill]

eeeuhhh that is pretty.... BLACK

if you'd use black wheel you'd have trouble finding your car...


LOL its just Black until i get my proper shell done, only had 3 days since its been built and i dont have an airbrush kit yet LOL..

This is were Simon Major comes in :thumbsup:

Garry

[rcracer]

eeeuhhh that is pretty.... BLACK

if you'd use black wheel you'd have trouble finding your car...

The shell was sprayed just to get the car on the track this weekend .

EDIT: woops great minds think alike lol

[mattym0310]

already got my second :p
must send it to Telboy though... FAST!

[Richard Lowe]

i quite like the orange wheels..looks very nice with orange wheels,
Go wash your mouthes out :o

:p

[daz]

Orange five spokes would finish it off better:thumbsup:

[rcracer]

Go wash your mouthes out :o

:p


Lol Rich... :D

[Garry Driffill]

Orange five spokes would finish it off better:thumbsup:


Damn right Daz LOL :lol:

[showtime]

i like the orange wheels too :thumbsup:

[ben]

So then garry and andy what did you think to your cars tonight at york? Looked like you broke quite alot of bits between you.:woot:

[AndyM]

ey up ben,

really liked the car tonight!! well, from when i used it...i had a few problems through the night, but they will all be sorted by next outing.

I thought it was really great how Yanina (Team Xtreme) gave Garry a ring, to see how he was getting on with the new car; really kind :)

so yehh, enjoyed it :D

[ben]

whos yanina???? :confused:

[AndyM]

Yanina (Team Xtreme)


:thumbsup:

[Garry Driffill]

Ben,

My car got faster round by round through the night. Some parts broke i felt due to tyre choice early on which made the car very twichey indeed. plus in practice everyting needed to be punched into the handset giving a good balance on steering.

I got the call from Lewis and Yanina on anouther note but they asked how the night was going..

The car was good as i say it got faster and faster as the night went on which is definatly a good thing. I beleive that andys car broke becasue of a bad line onto the jump :D.. But earlier in the night it was flying !

Garry

[AndyM]

I beleive that andys car broke becasue of a bad line onto the jump :D


..maybee :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

The car really was flying though :D

can't wait to get a one-way in it

[mattym0310]

the cars looked very quick tonight.
i am very much looking forward to getting mine out on the track for next week! :D

[ben]

Yes. the cars looked extremely fast last night. Just ashame about the faults you had on the cars.. :o

[rcracer]

Yes. the cars looked extremely fast last night. Just ashame about the faults you had on the cars.. :o

not really faults Ben just breakages... happens to us all :)

[RogerM]

Ben, give the guys a chance ..... when I started running Preds I had all sorts of breakages but after a few meetings you get used to the driving style required, which is unlike any other car I have driven, and the breakages stop and the results come!!!

Good luck lads

[rcracer]

Ben, give the guys a chance ..... when I started running Preds I had all sorts of breakages but after a few meetings you get used to the driving style required, which is unlike any other car I have driven, and the breakages stop and the results come!!!

Good luck lads

totaly agree :thumbsup:

[AndyM]

Good luck lads

thanks mate, appreciate it.

It was the same with you when you first got your S4 ben, and the same now with all your axles snapping :rolleyes:

so just wait a week or two, and i'll be just as quick, if not quicker than i was before, and i'll leave you in the dust :thumbsup:

[ben]

ok andy we will see. Just make sure you dont break any wheels:woot: LOL.

good luck you team extreme drivers:thumbsup:

[chrispattinson]

On Tuesday, our club night, I had a quick drive of Peter Ellis' X11. It was new built, with no setup work done.

It felt very fast and aggressive. I wouldnt have felt comfortable driving for 5 minutes with it like that, but for a few laps, it was incredible.

It hasn't persuaded me to leave the Tamiya and get a Pred, but those who dismiss it so easily should drive it first.

[XTREME RC]

Hi there
Well done for having a go:) The X11 is a fast car and can be aggressive too, but with the right set-up it can be very smooth. It does keep you on your toes and after a few races you will find that you just 'drive' it. Smoothly or aggressively. :)

[Southwell]

On Tuesday, our club night, I had a quick drive of Peter Ellis' X11. It was new built, with no setup work done.

It felt very fast and aggressive. I wouldnt have felt comfortable driving for 5 minutes with it like that, but for a few laps, it was incredible.

It hasn't persuaded me to leave the Tamiya and get a Pred, but those who dismiss it so easily should drive it first.

The best way to drive a pred i found is smoothly. If you try to push it, it will get agressive. If you really concentrate on your lines and exit it will be extremelly quick around a lap.

[Garry Driffill]

On Tuesday, our club night, I had a quick drive of Peter Ellis' X11. It was new built, with no setup work done.

It felt very fast and aggressive. I wouldnt have felt comfortable driving for 5 minutes with it like that, but for a few laps, it was incredible.

It hasn't persuaded me to leave the Tamiya and get a Pred, but those who dismiss it so easily should drive it first.


Chris,

Thats ace. what was the track like you tried the car on ? was it indoor or outdoor ? :)

[chrispattinson]

Indoor (sports hall) type track, with a couple of large jumps. On power steering seemed to throw the rear out too much. Probably, as Peter said, too much antisquat on rear.

The TRF501X has a lot of on power steering ( I run with overdrive at the front), but the rear seems to be more controlled with mine than the Pred. The throttle was coming in very strongly with the Pred, that woul'dnt have helped.

Must stress though that the pred was not setup.