View Full Version : Short course trucks, Why dont Shumacher make one?
TARTMAN
18-12-2011, 08:06 PM
Just curious why schumy dont make one?
I guess as not that popular its a no go.........
But was curious, as i run a cougar and sx3, and want a SC for some fun to, would love a sc schumy........... but alas, its not gona happen......:cry:
Stretch
18-12-2011, 08:10 PM
In what way will a SCT provide you with fun that your existing cars won't?
TARTMAN
18-12-2011, 08:15 PM
they look like fun, i love what i drive now, but we want to run a heat in our club and would like to give it a go, You cant have to much fun.......
a few people have them and i want to try.............
so was wondering why Schumy dont make one, thats all..........
not a thread about fun, its about why schumacher dont make one.........
as stated, curious............................:D
In what way will a SCT provide you with fun that your existing cars won't?
Origineelreclamebord
18-12-2011, 08:37 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Schumacher's main market is GB and in a way western Europe - at least not worldwide like some other brands.
As the SCs have become so popular in such a short time, it's hard to judge for a brand whether it's going to be around for another few years - aka, whether it's worth developing it. As a smaller brand you can't risk investing in the development of a car that won't be popular anymore by the time it's ready to put on the shelves of the hobby stores :p
That said, I haven't driven my (Kyosho Ultima) SC on a track yet, but it's a lot of fun bashing with it! It's back end is really loose (though with a less agressive driving style it goes pretty well), yet in a predictable and balanced way - it's easily the best car+kit setup for drifting I've driven so far :lol: It could be down to the mild brushless system though that I don't spin out, and the hard compound tires do help to keep the back end spinning! :thumbsup:
TARTMAN
18-12-2011, 08:41 PM
Schumacher is a world wide brand...............:D
spud31
18-12-2011, 08:52 PM
im sure one exists in development as they make the tyres now.
CS electronic do a conversion for the cougar to make into a stadium truck so wouldnt be too hard
TARTMAN
18-12-2011, 08:55 PM
I see they do the tyres..... hence my question with a little substance lol...
I will look for this conversion as i have almost a cougar in parts now, but really after a 4wd SC ideally..... there slippy enough as they are, 2wd would make them worse surely.....:cry:
im sure one exists in development as they make the tyres now.
CS electronic do a conversion for the cougar to make into a stadium truck so wouldnt be too hard
Stretch
18-12-2011, 09:00 PM
I think you answered you own question? Hence the curiosity about how a buggy with a different body and tyres is going to be more fun than a buggy. :)
In the past I've watched people switch formula in order to 'win', or buy another car so they can get more races per club meeting. Both of these approaches increased the enjoyment they were getting out of racing so no problem there. The only worry is that it might reduce the ability of new drivers to improve as graded heats and finals disappear to be replaced by a single heat of 2WD, one of 4WD, one of 18th, one of SCT etc.
Stretch
18-12-2011, 09:01 PM
????
spud31
18-12-2011, 09:02 PM
a mid motor 2wd sc will be a killer
TARTMAN
18-12-2011, 09:07 PM
Not at all. 1 heat of SC will not effect the overall day at our club. Its only 15 mins or so added plus a couple mins inbetween........... then a final..... really in the grand scheme of things, thats not alot for the extra fun to be had.
again, this post is NOT about that. Its about why shumacher dont make a SC truck............... Please stick to the actual post questions, not a discussion about of there fun or not, if there is time for them.....
thanks muchly............ Fun is fun whatever ya racing........ and rubin.......:drool::D
I think you answered you own question? Hence the curiosity about how a buggy with a different body and tyres is going to be more fun than a buggy. :)
In the past I've watched people switch formula in order to 'win', or buy another car so they can get more races per club meeting. Both of these approaches increased the enjoyment they were getting out of racing so no problem there. The only worry is that it might reduce the ability of new drivers to improve as graded heats and finals disappear to be replaced by a single heat of 2WD, one of 4WD, one of 18th, one of SCT etc.
Darren Boyle
18-12-2011, 11:50 PM
a mid motor 2wd sc will be a killer
It has already been done.....and is killer!!
DaveG28
19-12-2011, 02:42 AM
It has already been done.....and is killer!!
3 hours before you replied... You must be having a good Christmas in the shop for it to take that long :p
The X Factory one does look nice...for Schu...the main market for Short Course is still the US, do Schu have a big enough presence here?
Darren Boyle
19-12-2011, 11:48 AM
3 hours before you replied... You must be having a good Christmas in the shop for it to take that long :p
The X Factory one does look nice...for Schu...the main market for Short Course is still the US, do Schu have a big enough presence here?
LOL Dave... it was a sunday! :wub
SC is groing everywhere, the UK included, but the massive market and alwasy will be, is the US. History has alwasy shown that it can be very hard fro a non-US brand to be a huge success in the US, even the mighty Tamiya, Kyosho and Yokomo are not "massive" out there, whereas AE and Losi dominate...
Stretch
19-12-2011, 01:09 PM
"Please stick to the actual post questions, not a discussion about of there fun or not"
Understanding why people would want one is an important element in determining the potential size of a market, and hence whether to enter. :)
HTH.
Robbiejuk
19-12-2011, 01:14 PM
There was a prototype schumacher at worksop last year. Was an extended cougar.
Whether it will ever see production or not is another matter.
mikeyscott
19-12-2011, 01:30 PM
Purely cause it's not big enough in the UK in my view, unlike in the USA.
Why would a company change it's R&D focus to something that isn't their main market.
Americans are quite patriotic with their own brands, be nice to see short course grow in the UK though.
Surely if people went out and bought a truck then raced it regularly then every manufacturer will want a slice of cake. :P
mikeyscott
19-12-2011, 02:18 PM
Americans are quite patriotic with their own brands, be nice to see short course grow in the UK though.
Surely if people went out and bought a truck then raced it regularly then every manufacturer will want a slice of cake. :P
Not on my list to spend money on. Happy to watch and accomadate them at TORCH, which I plan to do, but I won't be spending any money on them.
ray carey
19-12-2011, 02:45 PM
Ive just spoke to Schumacher, they are saying its a possability, but not definate. Shame as im a fan of Schumacher and have a cougar and sx3.
Also i have an sc10 by AE. would deffinatly buy one of Shumacher. Merry xmas
h0m3sy
19-12-2011, 03:27 PM
Purely cause it's not big enough in the UK in my view, unlike in the USA.
Why would a company change it's R&D focus to something that isn't their main market.
This is exactly right
TARTMAN
19-12-2011, 07:41 PM
Ive just spoke to Schumacher, they are saying its a possability, but not definate. Shame as im a fan of Schumacher and have a cougar and sx3.
Also i have an sc10 by AE. would deffinatly buy one of Shumacher. Merry xmas
I would much prefer a schumy one if there was the option...........
Oh well, Times may change............... For the better............:woot:
ASKay
22-12-2011, 12:27 AM
Purely cause it's not big enough in the UK in my view, unlike in the USA.
Why would a company change it's R&D focus to something that isn't their main market.
spot on..... Its a major investment for just tooling for wishbones, for a cheap injection moulding tool you are looking at $20K, and you would need several for a new car....
As a customer I would rather they concentrate on good buisness rather than make a mistake that dents them does not off ROI, so they stay healthy for many many years to come.
TARTMAN
22-12-2011, 12:30 AM
point taken, but, IF they make one, please add me to the " i will buy one"...
As i now habe to buy an inferior make.............................:thumbdown::thumb down::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
spot on..... Its a major investment for just tooling for wishbones, for a cheap injection moulding tool you are looking at $20K, and you would need several for a new car....
As a customer I would rather they concentrate on good buisness rather than make a mistake that dents them does not off ROI, so they stay healthy for many many years to come.
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