Vintage RACERs in 08'

[BORMAC]

Now here's an idea...I just thought we could have somewhere to put up our vintage racer's that are used on the race circuits today. Wehter you race them in competition or just take your old girl down the track for a strap i think this might be a good place to post pics .
Here's my XLS that Ive been setting up for an up and coming annual vintage meeting. For the most part this car could be considered a Procat as Im useing the alloy diffs from the Procat with front housing,uprights and rear suspension. The rest is XLS and a few mod bits too. I just had this car down the track in Sydney yesterday and had a ball. Big controlled power slides a'plenty.:thumbsup:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/CATXLS1strun.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/CATXLS1strun1.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/CATXLS1strun2.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/CATXLS1strun4.jpg

[bender]

I'd be a bit worried about scratching those chrome rims Jason ;)

Still haven't found a suitable vintage runner yet :(

[BORMAC]

Jason its great to see you around again. Mate it sounds like you could be in the market for a very nice PROCAT-:rolleyes:

[hardrider]

Aren't you gonna run your Brat? :lol:

[BORMAC]

I could run it again (its been to 2 vintage meets now) but thought I'd have a go with a CAT. I could run a pile of cool vintage buggies but need to decide on but a few for the meeting. Probably run a Topcat too-:thumbsup:

[hardrider]

Jason,

Is that the a Brat shell in your Avatar?

[BORMAC]

SURE IS! :thumbsup:

[hardrider]

SURE IS! :thumbsup:

Looking good! :D

[BORMAC]

and here's the Cougar2 works Im thinking of running with the modern day 2WD buggies-
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/Cougar2inthemud.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/Cougar2inthemud4.jpg

[B44&501xRacerEX]

If my goldpan rc10 counts I'm in!:thumbsup:

Here's an old magazine collection from the 80's also.

[Welshy40]

Well, here is my 1993/94 Lazer ZXS Evolution.

Now before anyone says "hang on, wasnt this released in 96?" this car is one of the very few prototype cars that was trialed and tested before the release. There are a few noticeable changes from the standard ZXS Evo car, its blue and has a slightly different slipper clutch, and totally diffferent diffs, as well as the UJs. Ok so only 200 (I think or was it 300) of the Evo cars were ever sold and a very few protos so a very rare bit of fun.

Anyway I have been racing this for ages and is much better than the ZX, ZXR or even my own design ZXR(S) version. Any way I have a couple of the protos so may as well use one to the full. I works fantastic on low grip surfaces, and explains why a couple made a worlds A final.

[stegger]

Welshy, thats nice that fella:thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Welshy, thats nice that fella:thumbsup:

Thanks, buts the pics dont do it any justice, as its much better when your actually looking at it.

[Welshy40]

Thanks, buts the pics dont do it any justice, as its much better when your actually looking at it.

Thanks, buts the pics dont do it any justice, as its much better when your actually looking at it.

Also worth mentioning that a few designs from this car actually appeared on several recent cars, the Tamiya TRF501x with the open plan gear boxes, and the Yokomo which has a similar three piece chassis, and of course there have been a few cars with perspex clear plastic gearbox covers as well.

Also the ZX5, and SP with the UJs, and shocks which were developed on the ZXS and the protos are part of my car. The diffs and slipper are also protos, so is not just a work of art but is the best Kyosho car I have ever driven.

[minichamps11]

Dude,

Your freaky unnatural love of ancient, average-at-best Lazer's must be confusing your memory.

The PB Ace came out many years before the Lazer ZX-S & had clear Lexan gear box covers - the Lazer isn't the huge trendsetter you so desperately want it to be. You also mean "polycarbonate" not perspex, which is inferior in terms of durability. Lexan is a trade name for polycarbonate.





Also worth mentioning that a few designs from this car actually appeared on several recent cars, the Tamiya TRF501x with the open plan gear boxes, and the Yokomo which has a similar three piece chassis, and of course there have been a few cars with perspex clear plastic gearbox covers as well.

Also the ZX5, and SP with the UJs, and shocks which were developed on the ZXS and the protos are part of my car. The diffs and slipper are also protos, so is not just a work of art but is the best Kyosho car I have ever driven.

[Welshy40]

Dude,

Your freaky unnatural love of ancient, average-at-best Lazer's must be confusing your memory.

The PB Ace came out many years before the Lazer ZX-S & had clear Lexan gear box covers - the Lazer isn't the huge trendsetter you so desperately want it to be. You also mean "polycarbonate" not perspex, which is inferior in terms of durability. Lexan is a trade name for polycarbonate.

I forgot about the PB Ace, yup you are correct and I know there may be another but am uncertain at the mo which manufacturer.

I didnt say it was a trend setter, but its funny that things re appear on other manufacturers cars when they were originally developed by another company (Kyosho included), and a lot of the designs now are actually inferior to the original.

I am now going to drive the Tamiya which is a work of art but until we manage to get the gearbox covers which havent been finished yet the car is staying unused, as it does get well dirty, unlike the ZXS which I havent had to rebuild once this year, or come to think of it last year either. I think Yokomo have the same problem as well. Anyway back to the oldies

The cars I own are prototypes so of course they are (not always) better than the standard kit, and as its rare as rare can be (only 300 were made for the public and then the team protos), but its far superior to the ZXR, ZXRR series without a doubt. I am gonna keep running it, and hopefully sometime soon if allowed will run it at the vinatge race, if they change the rule to 93-93 then I will be there, even if I come last due to my terrible driving.

Itll be fun as the old cars are what I competed with, at the nats etc.

[HKP]

Well... the US vintage NATS say anything built up to and including 1994 - so that includes your car :)

[Lee]

[quote=Welshy40;117773]

, and as its rare as rare can be (only 300 were made for the public and then the team protos)[quote]


Id say the aero is more rare than that. i think there are no more than 10 in the uk:thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

[quote=Welshy40;117773]

, and as its rare as rare can be (only 300 were made for the public and then the team protos)[quote]


Id say the aero is more rare than that. i think there are no more than 10 in the uk:thumbsup:

HKP - pity I live in the UK, as the rules at the mo are up to 1990.

Aero, so how many in the world? I mean I have two of most probably 10 in the world, and one has never been used. But the Aero will be produced so then there will be more than 300, hopefully mass produced as its obviously a good car.

[tymill]

Got my old gold pan RC10 from my youth back on the road - drives so smoothly. Love it.

http://tiyen.com/box/DSC00134 (Medium).jpg
It'd been in storage with my parents back in California for the best part of 20 years, and I brought it back over to London last year. It's been great to drive it at EPR on practice days, and I aim to actually race it soon...:D

I remember spending so much time planning and prepping the Parma "Eagle" body to accomplish the flamed paintjob when I was back in high school. I think one of my mom's aluminium baking sheets might have met its demise to become that wing too... But hey, I still think it looks pretty cool.:thumbsup:

I've re-kitted out all of the electics with modern gear (won't really miss that old Futaba mc112b speedo with the blown reverse!), and have been experimenting with ways to get modern 2.2 inch rims mounted. Fronts should be easy, but the rears are a bit trickier... B2 rims and a little work with a hobby knife seem to work fine though. All good...

I run it almost every weekend, so it's deffo no shelf queen!

Anyone else still running old RC10s?

[stulec52]

Is there a world wide standard for what is vintage in race terms?
I read 1990 and 1994 here, and really as soon as you put modern electronics in it anyway it rather defeats the point of rules?
I like Jasons style of running old school with the current racers.
I'll be running my old CAT2k soon, I know not vintage, but old school ish !

[BORMAC]

I think the best part of coming back into the racing scene now days is the advent of more modern electrics. Setting up an old chassis with modern electrics is a must if you want to prove the chassis is capabable of competing with modern cars. It seems in Japan they are running anything pre 90's as we are here in Australia. If you run any later years people just wont show up with some of the cooler old stuff and that really defeats the purpose. I have thought in the past that they should cater to 2 different time zones. Pre 90's and pre 94'. This would allow for both era's of vehicle to be competitive in its own right.
As for what electrics to run,I dont think it needs to be a battle of power supply or ESC technology but rather the car itself. I think if most people took out their 'as run' pre 90's cars and put them on the track with their original electrics you'll find many of them feeling disheartened when they just refuse to make the end of the race.
There's no doubt that some of the electrics from way back when just dont stack up when it comes to reliability. Im sure someone out there may prove me wrong but for the majority most wont have old gear that will do the job.
As for what year or vintage car to run,I dont think it needs to be the most competitive but rather the old cars that hold some sentimental value. Sometimes I like to run cars I know just keep up with the top gun's of the day but thats what makes it fun.
I started out with the Optima back in the mid 80's and after all these years I finaly got another one together and raced it this past weekend amongst some of the modern cars. The car didnt miss a beat and went brillantly all day long.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/Vintage-racemeet057.jpg

[bender]

Jase,

Seriously, how many cars have you got now??

[BORMAC]

Too many! :lol: More than I know what to do with. I have just finished my Turbo Scorpion and am with my wedding in 11 weeks I am thinking of selling off a couple of my better Scorpion/Turbo Scorpions,my new built Optima and probably my best Cougar2 WORKS.
Im actually heading up your way and will be running my 501X out at BDR on Sunday. Are you going there by any chance?

[bender]

Unfortuantely no, I am still chasing a refund for my dodgy lipo charger which destroyed my cells - can't afford to buy more at the moment.

[stulec52]

Thanks for that Jason,
Our club will be doing more off road this winter, and I think I'll probably run something old school in at least one heat a week !
I have some Optima family cars or maybe original Cougar to pick from.
I understand what you mean about the chassis being the limitation on the power, a tamiya speedo and a black can motor would be enough for me to have fun in the stock class I think.
Although brushless in an old school car would be funny to try !

[purplenut]

Thought i would say hi as just joined,
Got a 501x at last will post some pics soon.

[brian s]

I`m looking to rebuild my RC10 once i find the few new parts i need to complete it, the main problem is getting an original screw set (not the blue aluminium repacements i see advertised)

[tymill]

I`m looking to rebuild my RC10 once i find the few new parts i need to complete it, the main problem is getting an original screw set (not the blue aluminium repacements i see advertised)

Surpringly, lots of parts are still available new here in the UK through CML's shopatron system. Just search for the ASxxxx part number, or the part name. http://www.shopatron.com/index/745.0

Also, vintage RC10 parts are all over ebay all the time. There seem to be a few vendors that specialise in RC10 bits on ebay - Valkyrie RC in kansas city is useful if you're in a real bind. The owner, Michael, is very helpful valkyrierc@hotmail.com

[tymill]

Here's those screws... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=370152211074

[Spy]

I have my "true vintage" Kyosho Optima Mid Custom - it still has the original electrics (including a mechanical speed controller :o) !

I would love to race it against its fellow old timers - a bit like Goodwood or the Millia Miglia !