Track Changes

[The race controller]

Do you want track changes at Bury ?
If you do, take a look at the map of the track on www.bmrcc.talktalk.net (http://www.bmrcc.talktalk.net)
-following the "Track" on the home page.(click on the map for the BIG picture)
The features are numbered so we will know what you're talking about.
Then don't just talk about them here, e-mail us at bmrc (at) talktalk.net

[woOdy]

What about a brand NEW track? Would anyone like that?

[super__dan]

Personally the current (not been there since last summer) track is my favourite in the UK and I don't think there's anything I'd change, I certainly don't think there would be a lot of 'value' in changing anything.

New track becasue you want to or have to? If so then almost same again please, the only think I'd change from new is the paving section takes up a lot of room for nothing as I think when we start finals on there on club days it becomes more of a lottery.

[bigred5765]

just bigger jumps all round

[ben]

Huge american style jumps please. That would be perfect. Like the double that is in the top left hand corner when looking from the rostrum but bigger. Keep the banked corners before the straight-away. Their great.

other than that the track is awesome just ashame it isnt in the north east region for this year:cry:

ben

[Stu]

Huge american style jumps please.

Ben - you gonna build it?

I'm with Dan, best track there is, joint with Southport & Stotfold.

If it's not broke don't fix it.

[super__dan]

I dissagree Ben/Carl, Bury is un ashamedly a UK track, not an air track. Without wishing to sound harsh the newer jumps over the last year I though detracted from the track, rather than added to it. It's a track you drive hard and fast round and I love it, trouble is for me with not regional or national I'm not sure I'll get to race there at all this year :(

[bigred5765]

you seem to have missed what me and ben mean dan
we love bury too, and have missed not being able to race there over winter love it to bits
but the newer stuff needs to be bigger to make it a feature and not a obstical

[Chrislong]

Why email them, when we have a good facility for discussion on oOple? :thumbsup:

The track is amongst the best in the country, im quite gutted that a national isn't going to be there in 2008 - it'll lead to less attendance as many come to practice the track, myself included. So how about flood lights and Friday night racing once or twice per month weather permitting?

I think the area where (1) the start grid is could be extended into being part of the track, flags removed, with an exit to it from the outside of the banked corner which we'll be able to jump from so a nice downslope to land on at speed into a corner.

Perhaps the tripple (10) needs further tweaking, the idea evolved a lot from the original. If the area between the 2nd and 3rd hump was filled to make it more of a "hump into table top", then it'd be easier for all. Personally i'll still be clearing it, im thinking of those that don't.

Could you blag the council to cover the remains of the gym, so we can have a covered pitting area? that'd be cool.... perhaps that idea is a bit off the scale interms of do-ability.

[Chrislong]

The trouble with getting more air by making bigger features, is although on paper it seems a good idea but those who suggest it will not be there to use it as often as the clublevel racers who it needs to be there loyaly weekly (please don't take that as a dig, I include myself in that - we need to keep the track do-able for it to survive as newby racers won't come back if they can't do a clean lap & we need them)., and those that use it weekly will get frustrated by not being able todo it. You may not realise (or forgotten) but when there is any breeze, there is little wind breakage around the track and it really blows the cars around to the point of not being able to predict any kind of heroics.

[bigred5765]

hmm great post
but im thinking along the lines of the jumps bumps and bomb hole's at stotfold
which i think is one of the best tracks in the uk right now

[Chrislong]

hmm great post
but im thinking along the lines of the jumps bumps and bomb hole's at stotfold
which i think is one of the best tracks in the uk right now

Stotfold is a marmite track, and Bury doesn't want that, it needs a Lucy Pinder track (i.e. everyone wants to be on it). A bomb hole works well but it'll fill with water, as the whole field is level at Bury and the track isn't raised, so there is nowhere for a hole to drain - as that hole will be the lowest point.

[bigred5765]

lol nice one chris
who would'nt want to be on lucy pinder
about stotfold, just as a example i ment not copy
hate marmite buy the way

[ben]

Carl thats what i had in my mind about the jumps being like stotfold. But bury is a completely different kind of track to stotfold which tests the drivers skill more with their being multi-surfaces. But back to my original post about how to improve the track. I think the track works very well as it is but the double can sometimes be a bit hard to judge because it is quite far away. What i ment by american stlye jumps was jumps that had landings to them and that were consistent.
Maybe a wall of death somewhere but that would require a digger:thumbsup::p:drool:
This is just my opinions though:cool:

ben

[Lee]

Not been there for a while but the only thing i dislike about the current track was the triples, i could clear the 2nd two but its quite hit and miss sometimes. The double on the back section was made much better, it is so much more consistent now than it was but still not perfect on the up ramp the car can do random things.

I like the track, but these are just my 2p`s worth:thumbsup:

[Richard Lowe]

Bury is pretty much perfect as it is! Since the latest jumps were added/tweaked it has to be one of the best tracks in the country :D

The triple before the banking can be a bit hit and miss in 2wd to clear, but thats only because of the sand coming out of the astro. Once all thats settled down properly it will probably get more consistent :)

[Teddy truman]

American tracks dont always have lots of big jumps! they have quite alot of small ones that you just have to get the down ramp to be fast! like a small double with a down ramp that is nice and long and has a corner after it...

[Teddy truman]

American tracks dont always have lots of big jumps! they have quite alot of small ones that you just have to get the down ramp to be fast! like a small double with a down ramp that is nice and long and has a corner after it...

keep bury as it is just re profile your jumps if you want to do anything....

[Swiss]

Stotfold is a marmite track, and Bury doesn't want that, it needs a Lucy Pinder track (i.e. everyone wants to be on it). A bomb hole works well but it'll fill with water, as the whole field is level at Bury and the track isn't raised, so there is nowhere for a hole to drain - as that hole will be the lowest point.

Surely Chris, every track is a Marmite track... All tracks will be split by opinion.

[Chrislong]

The double on the back section was made much better, it is so much more consistent now than it was but still not perfect on the up ramp the car can do random things.



Hey Lee,
Agree with this, but a lot of it is caused by the wind. On a mild day I can get the jump 100% lap after lap, then on a windy day, im lucky to land 1 in 10 if I try to make the down ramp.

The moral of the story is... stay off the beans :lol:

[rallymadryan]

if there had to be any track changes at bury it would have to be the triple jumps , i cannot get over them at a consistant pace ... and can't clear them , tried it all ....i wud make them into a single jump:bored:

[woOdy]

Spent today at the track:woot: Things are going to change. O, have changed. LOL.:thumbsup:

[mattym0310]

you got a big picture of the whole track woody?? i don't think theres been a recent one?

[Mrs oOple]

Watch this space :thumbsup:

[woOdy]

Not got a full picture of the track but just a suprise for Sunday.:thumbsup:

[mattym0310]

think i might pick Bury over Batley now :D

[bigred5765]

Spent today at the track:woot: Things are going to change. O, have changed. LOL.:thumbsup:

awsome news dude

[Lee]

Wow, cool, ill be there on sunday weather permitting:thumbsup:

Aero in hand:lol:


Mars in the other:lol:

[MikePimlott]

Nice one Stu, Cant wait for sunday Hope weather holds off.

[rallymadryan]

think ill go for a sneaky peek tmorrow :thumbsup:

hope this persuades more people to come to bury :woot:

[rallymadryan]

:woot: i been down this mornin , its awesome , im keeping my gob shut thoo :woot::thumbsup:

[ben]

Come on then ryan spill the beans. Please give us some idea. Just an ickle clue

[MikePimlott]

LOL is it a secret???? I have pics :p

passed this morning and the change is 100% better than the triples

Nice work Woody and crew :thumbsup:

[Lee]

is it a table top??????????


or


a loop the loop:confused::lol:

[ben]

:woot:Hey lee that was my idea haha

[rallymadryan]

im keepin my gob shut .... who thinks ill be able to manage a meeting at bury with 5 fully charged batteries , my brother decided he'll go and loose my charger and ive got no idea where it is ....:(

[footey]

anyone got the postcode for me please as i need to use tom tom

and what time is the latest i can book in

[bigred5765]

Goshen Sports Centre
Tennyson Avenue, Bury, Lancashire BL9 9RG

[rallymadryan]

who thinks ill be able to manage a meeting at bury with 5 fully charged batteries , my brother decided he'll go and loose my charger and ive got no idea where it is ....:(

[Lee]

Ryan you should be ok

[rallymadryan]

i wont be able to do any testing though ,, will i ??:confused:

[MikePimlott]

Should be plenty of people and chargers there tomorrow.

[rallymadryan]

i could take my mains charger if i could charge in the lock up....:confused:

[ben]

oww the weathers sort of looking up now for tommorow. Looks like its light sleet from 4 onwards :thumbsup:

[rallymadryan]

:thumbsup:

[woOdy]

Just to let anyone know, I am going down to the track for about 10 in the morning so if you want to come down and maybe help set the track up that would be very nice.

[bri]

will b there bro, c u at 10ish... :p

[Northy]

Can someone post on here what the weather is like about 9.30 tomorrow morning please? I'll have to set off at quarter to 10 :(

Cheers,

G

[mattym0310]

na, post it at 9!

[Lee]

What time are people getting there tomorrow, im coming from durham so its a few hours drive?:(

[Northy]

its a few hours drive?:(

Bovered? :confused:

G

[ben]

Face... bovered lol:lol:

[Lee]

HB D4 , Bovered:confused::lol:

[ben]

Chocolate bar Bovered?:woot:

[rallymadryan]

ive just been out in the snow for like an hour , its stopped now , hopefully it will stay away :) ill be there around 12 ....:)

[stuhurley]

Really Sunny here (near the Trafford Centre - less than 10 miles away)...it's a bit cold still and it snowed a bit overnight...about 4 flakes :thumbsup:

[rallymadryan]

im in little lever ( next 2 radcliffe ) and its fine here sunny aswell :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

sunny at the mo
get your selfs down to bury metro
see you the at 11.30ish

[bigred5765]

track was ace today, the new features were a big improvement
a big well done to stu and his crew
well great till the snow came down lol

[rallymadryan]

still good when the snow came down , just very slippy and cold :yawn:

[ben]

Loving the new features stu :thumbsup:. Was pleased with how my 2wd went today :drool:. Shame we had the snow because the track was bone dry for the first two rounds :woot:

Cheers roger for running the meeting :thumbsup:

ben

[PaulRotheram]

Any info or pictures on the new features then?

[woOdy]

A BIG thanks for everybody that turned up today:thumbsup: Totally respect the people that came from a far. So thanks very much. Hope this is a sign of things to come for the coming season. As far as the new parts on the track go, this is the beginning. You never know, we might even put in for a National next year if we get the numbers up this year? Also you could also give some opinions on the new bit also. Thanks again for the good turn out. Sorry about the Snow.

[Lee]

Book the sun for a little longer next time stu:thumbsup:

The track was really good today, bury is so good and you can run a different track everytime its ace!!

The new feature on the back section is very good, well all the new features are. Well done to those who made the changes, the track is looking ace!!

Ill be back for more and the track warrants a nat, next year:thumbsup:

[ben]

Any info or pictures on the new features then?

The triple has now been changed so its now a step-up. So the first bump is the same but the last two are now together were the second one is. And where the bankings are coming onto the straight the curb stone things have been taken out of the top from the second banking so you came down the grass banking and onto the straight. So that worked like a jump and you landed down onto the banking. :)

[ben]

How are ya feeling lee after falling over to marshall danneths car lol :lol:.

Definatley put in for a national stu :thumbsup:. Lets just hope the turnout keeps high. :)

ben

[woOdy]

The triple has now been changed so its now a step-up. So the first bump is the same but the last two are now together were the second one is. And where the bankings are coming onto the straight the curb stone things have been taken out of the top from the second banking so you came down the grass banking and onto the straight. So that worked like a jump and you landed down onto the banking. :)

Ben just to rectify, the first jump of the triples has now gone. The second jumps goes into a step up and then a longer down ramp. A bit like the jump in the middle of the Cactus Classic track this year but a little smaller.

[bigred5765]

the new step up was near perfect mate loved it
is the any way of making the downslope more useable hmm wrong word
more a you have to land on it kinda thing, closer to the corner so there not as much run at it or move the first ramp back a touch. i dont know something along them lines
still 100% better. the new banked corner run of on to the grass was just class

[ben]

Ben just to rectify, the first jump of the triples has now gone. The second jumps goes into a step up and then a longer down ramp. A bit like the jump in the middle of the Cactus Classic track this year but a little smaller.

lol thanks for correcting that stu.

[rallymadryan]

the track changes are 100% better than before :thumbsup:

[ben]

lol not to moan or anything. But is their anything that can be done to take the moss away that was in a couple of places?

[Mossy]

Any pictures Stu?

[Chrislong]

Hey Ben, racing on the track weekly will help kill off the moss. Otherwise its a job for the pressure washer. Its just through the track being closed over the winter, it won't take long to be gone.

Love the new features. Any more plans? I think it doesn't need anything else to be honest.

Infact, Stu, hows about a club meeting next weekend? im not really bovered about the regional at Southport and would happily miss it for Bury.... weather permitting.... bloody weather...

[ben]

Ahh right chris. Thats fine then. :thumbsup:

[Northy]

I like the new features.

Perhaps astro the new bit onto the straight and bank it a little? The grass will get some abuse if it's not astro'ed.

But all in all :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

G

[mattym0310]

can we have some pics?? your all talking about these new features yet i dont have a clue what your on about, lol!

[ben]

The triple has now been changed so its now a step-up. So the first bump is the same but the last two are now together were the second one is. And where the bankings are coming onto the straight the curb stone things have been taken out of the top from the second banking so you came down the grass banking and onto the straight. So that worked like a jump and you landed down onto the banking. :)

:):):)

[rallymadryan]

i'd quite happily race next weekend :thumbsup: weather permitting obviously:(

[footey]

cheers stu and stus dad i really enjoyed today and my dad loved it too we traveled alongway and im gutted its not closer for me as id be there every meeting

[Chrislong]

No photos yet, so come and race on the track!! :lol: :thumbsup:

[ben]

What an insenstive lol

[Jonathan]

My first time at Bury today, and first race in many many years.

It was great.:lol:

Big up to Roger :thumbsup:

Looking forward to next time.

[stuhurley]

Pic Mike sent me

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee71/stuhurley/0_image_028.jpg

[mattym0310]

sorry, i'll open my eyes next time :D

[mattym0310]

looks really good! any of the one before the straight??

[stuhurley]

sorry matty, only one I had

[ben]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/burynational2007/2wd/imagepages/OOP_7767.html

You now come underneath the gazebo. lol.

[mattym0310]

oh yeah, i understand now! i wonna race there !!!

[rallymadryan]

ive got a video of the new feature but its on my fone so hard look , :thumbsup:

[bri]

well i think ur all nuts... lol.

there is much more 2 cum regardin track changes, roger, stu, n myself hav lots of ideas and sketches on paper... so watch this space!

it will b a case of 1 feature at a time as its only myself n stu doin the work at the moment, any offers of help wud b appreciated...

the next change will be ......
.................................................. .................................................. .. lol im not tellin u yet! u'l all hav 2 keep cumin down n racin 2 find out!!!!!!!!!!!

[rallymadryan]

i'll do that :thumbsup:

[super__dan]

Please don't change it too much, it's not really broken at the moment so don't fix it too much!

[rallymadryan]

true , a few changes would be good though , im sure they wont change it if it doesn't need 2 be :)

[Lee]

I wouldnt go too far with the changes either, the last thing we want is an obstacle course:thumbsup:

[bri]

it wont become an obsticle course lee, deffo not..... i remember bury club 20 yrs ago wen it had 60+ drivers at a club meet n thats wot we want bac!

dan we wont go mad but just gonna tweak it here n there 4 now, n get rid of a few imperfections m8 that alot of people winge about!

anyway roger wont let us go 2 mad.... i wanted 2 get a digger in n start again with sumthin proper interestin but the race controller said 'no' n we had 2 bow down lol...

[Chrislong]

Bri, it just needs rolling flat and features made equal accross the width, then pressure washer'd to get the moss off. The track is otherwise great.

The only part I can criticize is the new double / \ , it can be a mare to get over in one with 2wd.

When can we race on Friday nights there? :thumbsup:

[bri]

i kno exactly wot u r sayin m8, n it is in hand buddy!

as 4 the friday nites i will find out n let u kno m8, i dont think i will b there much on a friday nite tho... mayb once a month as i dont want 2 giv up my beer if u kno wot i mean lol.... i'l deffo get bac 2 u tho!

[rallymadryan]

i got over the new double fine with my b4 :thumbsup:

friday nites would be awesome :woot:

[Lee]

Has the big double on the left of the track been re-profiled, it seemed flatter on the second bit, i may be wrong though:)

[MikePimlott]

Yes Lee, It was made into more of table top rather than a double and the up ramp was reshaped more square.

[Richard Lowe]

Is there still the usual option on to the straight round the banking? That is/was (!) one of my favourite parts of the track :)

Bri, please stop the text speak if possible, it's painful to read :drool:

[Lee]

yeh rich u cn use it:lol::thumbsup:

[MikePimlott]

Yes the bank corner leading onto the straight is untouched. :thumbsup:

[Richard Lowe]

yeh rich u cn use it:lol::thumbsup:
Argh!!!

[jimmy]

I wouldn't mind a banked corner on that near left corner - that's so hard to see and judge properly from the stand.

[bri]

i do appologise richard.... i do so hope that this style is far easier for you to comprehend? lol

only messing matey, its just habit!

just give me a shout on anything you are confused on and i will try and put it right for you!

jimmy you arent far off what stu and myself wanted to do, initail plan was a full banked bend from end of straight to where the cobbled bend finishes.... but roger wouldnt let me have a digger lol :mad:

[MikePimlott]

Most of you dont know Bri is sponsered by JCB and rather than drive a buggy round he wants to RIP the track up. :lol:

To be honest all the track changes are minor and are all to make the track raceable. Its going to be ace when we've finished. :thumbsup:

[super__dan]

NOOOOOOOO, leave the end of the straight alone, it's fine :(

[ben]

There's always one:lol:. I personally think that a banked corner at the end of the straight-away would be good. Because i cant really see the end of the straight very well because of the conrete track marker just before the corner. :(

ben

[Chrislong]

There's always one:lol:. I personally think that a banked corner at the end of the straight-away would be good. Because i cant really see the end of the straight very well because I only have short legs. :(

ben


Edited post from Ben above :thumbsup:

The end of the straight is perfect, requires a skill to do it. The sloped apex is great too, means the car is flipped rather than broken on a solid object. Id just roll the approach to it so its all smooth and hey-presto... perfection.

[bri]

mike u sod..... i'l lose that sponsorship with jcb now.
it was a secret deal, told u not 2 let it out the bag! oh bugger........:cry:

[Pete@BMM]

Hey guys - glad to see things are looking up.
Any chance of some leaflets to hand out in the shop - its mad that you are the closest club yet we have no info in store, posters, leaflet etc.

We have info for the local smelly clubs NNRC and PRCC both of which are very un local compared to you guys.

Pete

[bri]

would that b pete frm bolton model mart?

[Pete@BMM]

Yep :)

[bri]

hiya m8, its bri frm mega models (rb modelsport), i will get sum leaflets 2 u regardin the club asap....