Regional Dates 2012

[Evo_Snr]

N/W Regional dates for 2012 are :-
22nd April -----Southport
6th May ------Batley
20th May ----- South Lakes
24 June ----- Bury
8th July ------- Southport
19th August ----- Bury
Both classes to run on the same day.
£8 per class. Under 16’s (as of 01/01/12) £5.00
Best 4 rounds from 6 to go towards "F" grade
Pre book and pre pay to be decided.
Pre book a definite for Southport :- booking-in@srcc.co.uk so we can gauge the numbers. :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

book matty in both classes for all

[tc3nitro]

Shame I think I'll only be able to do 3 rounds as the rest clash with the NE regionals !

[codi jones b4]

any one know the e-mail addresses to send me booking in details to for batley, southlakes and bury

thanks codi

[Evo_Snr]

any one know the e-mail addresses to send me booking in details to for batley, southlakes and bury

thanks codi
Codi, look at the first post! you only need to pre-book in to the first Southport Regional. pre-booking in at the other Regionals are yet to be desided.

[johnnygibbon]

Thanks for the info evo
Really looking forward to this years racing now
Just wish keighly was still running I used to really enjoy the regional s there

[gazhillAE]

Only racing I will be doing is year so looking forward to it :thumbsup:

[TommyG]

First time doing the regionals. Can somebody point me in the right direction on how to get booked in on them?

Cheers

Tommy

[DianneH]

Shame I think I'll only be able to do 3 rounds as the rest clash with the NE regionals !

This was a deliberate choice by the NW reps to increase the number of days available for club racing - by using some of the same dates for the NW and NE regionals it gives more choice for club dates.

It also means that you need to make a choice as to which regional series you will qualify in. I think this is a positive move forward.

[bigred5765]

Only racing I will be doing is year so looking forward to it :thumbsup:

you not doing nats this year gaz??not seen you over winter yet ether mate you been busy

[gazhillAE]

you not doing nats this year gaz??not seen you over winter yet ether mate you been busy

Work, house, car, new gf and step dads been diagnosed with cancer unfortunately so had to help mum alot

[gazhillAE]

First time doing the regionals. Can somebody point me in the right direction on how to get booked in on them?

Cheers

Tommy

Dead easy tommy
Turn up on the day to all but southport as its always the busiest.
Guessing it won't be this year though as no national there to practice for.
Book in on the email address eric has given you with your pt number if you have one, what frequency your using or 2.4, name and what car your running and a rough f grading as in f1-f5.

Turn up on the day to the others but keep an eye on each regional on here to make sure there not overly booked up as they may start taking advance bookings as per southport

Any other questions? :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

Work, house, car, new gf and step dads been diagnosed with cancer unfortunately so had to help mum alot

wondered why we hadn't seen you this winter indoors,sorry to here about ur step dad mate bad news,

[gazhillAE]

wondered why we hadn't seen you this winter indoors,sorry to here about ur step dad mate bad news,

Yeah I know these things happen I've just got to keep strong and be there for my mum thanks anyway carl

[Evo_Snr]

Update on numbers booked into Round 1 at Southport :-
42 x 4wd and 63 x 2wd. :thumbsup: I will post a list up nearer the event

[The race controller]

I've put our list on the web already Eric. On page 2 and filling fast.

[Evo_Snr]

There are 118 booked in so far

Bookings so far for Southport Round 1
Chris Evison 2wd
Matthew Latham 2wd/4wd
Joel Maher 2wd/4wd
Codi Jones 2wd
Simon Larkin 2wd
Allister Sharp 2wd/4wd
David Lockley 4wd
Stuart Jones 2wd
Scott Walker 2wd
Stuart Evans 2wd/4wd
Philip Brown 2wd
Nick Caro 2wd/4wd
Alan Reeves 2wd
Colin May 2wd/4wd
Paul James Crawford 2wd
Andrew Rochell 2wd/4wd
Tony Mulligan 2wd/4wd
Aidan Burke 2wd
Tommy Tansley 2wd/4wd
John Nolan 2wd/4wd
Nick Cox 2wd/4wd
James Dean 2wd
Richard Dean 2wd/4wd
Harry Sayle 2wd
James Burgess 2wd/4wd
Chris Cherry 2wd/4wd
Rob McLaurin 2wd
Steve Connolly 2wd/4wd
Danny Cross 2wd/4wd
Tim Rawcliffe 2wd/4wd
Ian Joyner 2wd
Adam Perei 2wd
Wayne Perei 2wd
Steven Ball 2wd/4wd
Wesley Davis 2wd/4wd
Andy Newbound 2wd
Richard Dewhurst 2wd/4wd
Mike Parker 4wd
Mark Sutcliffe 2wd
Chris Sutcliffe 2wd
James McFadyean 2wd/4wd
Isaac McFadyean 2wd
Howard Walden 2wd/4wd
Lee Chorley 2wd/4wd
John Kirkman 2wd
Derek Mclarney 2wd
Conner Cocker 2wd/4wd
Gareth Hill 2wd/4wd
Stuart Learmouth 2wd
Robert Brazendale 2wd/4wd
Rob Stanway 2wd/4wd
Matthew Bateson 2wd
James Hirst 2wd/4wd
Jack Hirst 2wd/4wd
Tony Parr 2wd/4wd
Ashley Fensom 2wd
Terry Fensom 2wd
Dan Webster 2wd
Anthony Steel 4wd
Mark Steel Snr 4wd
Tom Gutteridge 2wd/4wd
Jamie Paton 2wd/4wd
Andy Shillito 2wd/4wd
Lee Washington 2wd
Chris Taylor 2wd/4wd
Gareth Morgan 2wd/4wd
Reece Costello 2wd/4wd
Mark Broadbent 4wd
Scott Broadbent 4wd
James Dixon 2wd
Luke Holdsworth 2wd/4wd
Josh Holdsworth 2wd
Graham North 4wd
Shane Foot 2wd
Len Foot 2wd
John Price 2wd/4wd
Kevin Hodkinson 2wd
Stuart Hurley 2wd/4wd
Oliver Hurley 2wd

[codi jones b4]

hi Eric can you put me in for 4wd as well forgot to tell u Sunday
thanks codi

[RickRick]

Southlakes club are planning to start pre booking on the monday following the first southport meeting, we'll post an email address soon

[Evo_Snr]

Due to overwhelming interest we will have to cap the entries for round 1
There are 55 x 4wd and 88 x 2wd so far.
4wd is now full and 2wd is now full(That makes it 143 entries)
Once these are filled then a reserve list will be produced.
Check to see if your details are correct

Bookings so far for Southport Round 1
Chris Evison 2wd
Matthew Latham 2wd/4wd
Joel Maher 2wd/4wd
Codi Jones 2wd/4wd
Simon Larkin 2wd
Allister Sharp 2wd/4wd
David Lockley 4wd
Stuart Jones 2wd
Scott Walker 2wd
Stuart Evans 2wd/4wd
Philip Brown 2wd
Nick Caro 2wd/4wd
Alan Reeves 2wd
Colin May 2wd/4wd
Paul James Crawford 2wd/4wd
Andrew Rochell 2wd/4wd
Tony Mulligan 2wd/4wd
Aidan Burke 2wd
Tommy Tansley 2wd/4wd
John Nolan 2wd/4wd
Nick Cox 2wd/4wd
James Dean 2wd
Richard Dean 2wd/4wd
Harry Sayle 2wd
James Burgess 2wd/4wd
Chris Cherry 2wd/4wd
Rob McLaurin 2wd
Steve Connolly 2wd
Danny Cross 2wd
Tim Rawcliffe 2wd/4wd
Ian Joyner 2wd
Adam Perei 2wd
Wayne Perei 2wd
Steven Ball 2wd/4wd
Wesley Davis 2wd/4wd
Andy Newbound 2wd
Richard Dewhurst 2wd/4wd
Mike Parker 4wd
Mark Sutcliffe 2wd
Chris Sutcliffe 2wd
James McFadyean 2wd/4wd
Isaac McFadyean 2wd
Howard Walden 2wd/4wd
Lee Chorley 2wd/4wd
John Kirkman 2wd
Derek Mclarney 2wd
Conner Cocker 2wd/4wd
Gareth Hill 4wd
Robert Brazendale 2wd/4wd
Rob Stanway 2wd/4wd
Matthew Bateson 2wd
James Hirst 2wd/4wd
Jack Hirst 2wd/4wd
Tony Parr 2wd/4wd
Ashley Fensom 2wd
Terry Fensom 2wd
Dan Webster 2wd
Anthony Steel 4wd
Mark Steel Snr 4wd
Tom Gutteridge 2wd/4wd
Jamie Paton 2wd/4wd
Andy Shillito 2wd/4wd
Lee Washington 2wd
Chris Taylor 2wd/4wd
Gareth Morgan 2wd/4wd
Reece Costello 2wd/4wd
Mark Broadbent 4wd
Scott Broadbent 4wd
James Dixon 2wd
Luke Holdsworth 2wd/4wd
Josh Holdsworth 2wd
Graham North 4wd
Shane Foot 2wd
Len Foot 2wd
John Price 2wd/4wd
Kevin Hodkinson 2wd
Stuart Hurley 2wd/4wd
James Wilkinson 2wd/4wd
Carl Greenbank 2wd
Gary Ennis 2wd
Mark Rigby 4wd
Mark Eltman 4wd
Craig Flynn 2wd
Ian Pattison 2wd
Tom Pattison 2wd
Stuart Wood 2wd
Tim Clark 2wd
Andy Grason 2wd/4wd
David Peel 4wd
Issac Peel 2wd
Lee Fraser 2wd/4wd
Barry Drinkwater 2wd
Mike Pimlott 2wd/4wd
Chris Donnelly 2wd
Colin Gill 2wd/4wd
Thomas Gill 2wd
Mike Bradbury 2wd
Guy Dickinson 2wd

[RudolfXC]

Did you get my full details for John Clements?

[MikePimlott]

Glad ive only just seen this :o

[Evo_Snr]

Did you get my full details for John Clements?
Yes Thanks :thumbsup:

[Evo_Snr]

The meeting for round 1 at Southport is now FULL.
Any more bookings will go on a reserve list :woot:

[tony12795]

This is IMO


Race Events
More than 120 drivers is way too many, when you think about it this is why a well run and fully organised event like UK Nationals cap to around 120 drivers, I not saying the North West is badly run by the way, it’s just not as good as Nationals as you would expect. The North West is growing every year and has now become a very big region and I think is time the clubs started looking at splitting 2wd and 4wd or people that book into all the events get priority, as you will find that each club will have racers that only race at their local club and are not willing to travel. Unfortunately I feel that the region will push people away to other regions where you can race and be home before local regional has even finished.

Look at the mid-west’s link this is how it should be done. They have 7/8 heats per class properly the same as us, they also have three legged A-Finals which I now its not for everyone but it gives a much better sceptical for the people watching.

http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html)

Booking In
Right what the hell is going on with booking in, I want to book in to all the North West regional events yeah!! Why can I not just send one email which books me in for all these events? What I have to do is book each event separately, which is okay but what happens if clubs are not taking pre-booking in or start taking pre-booking in later in the week when I am not on oople. It’s just completely and utterly rubbish.

Driving Standard
The driving standard in the North-west is horrendous compared to other Regions. I went to Coventry the last weekend and I have forgotten how much better it is. I raced at Chadderton the week before and people were jumping the track blatantly, In the A final, one racer was in front of two other racers and were all close together on the track, he crashed and end up on the wrong side on the track, he waited for the other racers to come round but then carried on in front of them, basically gaining two places, this is top 10 racers for that meeting!!! You should get back on the track where you crashed and carry on. It’s the same when we go outdoors. Why don’t we have referees?? I am willing to help, maybe give a referee an incentive to referee, pay them by means of free entry for the son or daughter that’s racing or free food, maybe referees should be picked at drivers briefing, which then goes back to organisation and running smaller meetings.

At the minute I am serious considering not doing NW Regional’s because of the above and I also know people that are thinking the same.

Stuart Wood, sort it out please!!!

Comments are welcome

[col300]

This is IMO


Race Events
More than 120 drivers is way too many, when you think about it this is why a well run and fully organised event like UK Nationals cap to around 120 drivers, I not saying the North West is badly run by the way, it’s just not as good as Nationals as you would expect. The North West is growing every year and has now become a very big region and I think is time the clubs started looking at splitting 2wd and 4wd or people that book into all the events get priority, as you will find that each club will have racers that only race at their local club and are not willing to travel. Unfortunately I feel that the region will push people away to other regions where you can race and be home before local regional has even finished.

Look at the mid-west’s link this is how it should be done. They have 7/8 heats per class properly the same as us, they also have three legged A-Finals which I now its not for everyone but it gives a much better sceptical for the people watching.

http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html)

Booking In
Right what the hell is going on with booking in, I want to book in to all the North West regional events yeah!! Why can I not just send one email which books me in for all these events? What I have to do is book each event separately, which is okay but what happens if clubs are not taking pre-booking in or start taking pre-booking in later in the week when I am not on oople. It’s just completely and utterly rubbish.

Driving Standard
The driving standard in the North-west is horrendous compared to other Regions. I went to Coventry the last weekend and I have forgotten how much better it is. I raced at Chadderton the week before and people were jumping the track blatantly, In the A final, one racer was in front of two other racers and were all close together on the track, he crashed and end up on the wrong side on the track, he waited for the other racers to come round but then carried on in front of them, basically gaining two places, this is top 10 racers for that meeting!!! You should get back on the track where you crashed and carry on. It’s the same when we go outdoors. Why don’t we have referees?? I am willing to help, maybe give a referee an incentive to referee, pay them by means of free entry for the son or daughter that’s racing or free food, maybe referees should be picked at drivers briefing, which then goes back to organisation and running smaller meetings.

At the minute I am serious considering not doing NW Regional’s because of the above and I also know people that are thinking the same.

Stuart Wood, sort it out please!!!

Comments are welcome


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[tony12795]

Thats a really bad pic !!!!

Very Funny mate......

[col300]

Glad ive only just seen this :o

Are you making a comeback Mr Pimlottshire? :woot:

[tony12795]

HA HA He is not going to get in........

Yeah, you coming back ??

[col300]

Thats a really bad pic !!!!

Very Funny mate......

:thumbsup:

[MikePimlott]

I completely agree Tony,

Having done both MW and NW for numerous years, there is completely different experience between the 2,

However the MW takes up alot of weekends on the calender. with Nationals and other races it gets hard to do club days.

The NW clubs are club day clubs, with club days every weekend only shut really when theres another regional on, if we split it to 2 seperate sundays it would be shut double the amount of time, or stay open for the people that dont travel to regionals and start the old "i came to yours, you didnt come to mine" war.

A central booking in site ran by the region is a deffinate, we used to have Northern racer website for regional results surely one could be put up for booking in? as done in the MW and the NE (ive done that region too lol)

YEAH, im racing when we get back outdoors

[tony12795]

Mate, I do agree spitting the events is a pain and was only a suggestion, you don't have to do all the meetings. but If I book in for all the events then I should get priority over the ones that only book in for one, two or three.

What you mean outdoors?? I am racing outdoors now (maybe not Southport) but outdoors....

T

[MikePimlott]

What you mean outdoors?? I am racing outdoors now (maybe not Southport) but outdoors....

Yeah, but your a hero with a handbag :woot:

[tony12795]

:cry:

[MikePimlott]

Was a good suggestion lets split it :thumbsup:

[DanW]

A lot of the popularity of NW regionals has been due to the 1day format. People struggle to commit to full weekend events and clubs and calenders struggle to accomadate completely seperate 2WD /4WD.

Unfortunately (as already pointed out) compared to the number of entrants in each event, the numbers completing enough rounds to count are quite low.

I like the idea of drivers pre-booking the series centrally, giving priorty to drivers who book and pay for at least the minimum 4 scoring rounds.

As the NW clubs close on regional dates to encourage support for the series, seperate 2WD and 4WD rounds means a lot of closed club days which is bad. Accessible club days are the grass roots where new racers are introduced in to the sport.

Hopefully we will have a resurrection of a NW committee to sort this type of stuff out. Unfortunately a few weeks before the first event is the wrong time to change things, really it needs to be discussed and agreed at the end of the outdoor season so everything in place for the next one.

[tc3nitro]

I don't understand why the section does not use either Central Booking or the BRCA site for booking in ? This way you can pay for you entries by PayPal and also see who else is booked in.

[MikePimlott]

Like Dan says, We are a little to late in the year to debate this now unfortunately.

Maybe these are changes that could be implemented through the year and tested ready for next year.

Hopefully the new regional rep :thumbsup: is reading this and has a few ideas regarding running the region :wub

[Evo_Snr]

The biggest problem in the North West it the lack of clubs. We have had to go to a club in an other region to make up a series. We have had drivers entering from other regionals bacause we run both classes on the same day.

[MikePimlott]

We are not suggestig using 2 days in 1 weekend just 2 seperate sundays for each class.

Its the only way forward :lol:

[budfish]

People with post codes outside the northwest region should not be allowed to book in for northwest regionals.i know some people prefer the one day 2 classes thing but if that's not the way it's done in the region they live well they need to take it up with the brca rep in their region. It's their problem not ours.

Example:- one bloke lives in east yorkshire but prefers the one day format so let's say he's in the top ten to fire emails off the the relevant clubs and so he's booked in for all northwest regionals.so then some one like me dos'nt get his emails off and is then forced to travel far greater distances for twice the number of times due to the 2 day format!!!! Absolute farce and totally unfair in my eyes

Sort it out the stu wood!!!

[footey]

sorry but utter B@*lsh%t :mad:

[budfish]

sorry but utter B@*lsh%t :mad:

Why do you think that please explain ??

[footey]

if you want to do any region and are willing to travel unlike some from that region and you are willing to pay your entry then why shouldnt you race

[budfish]

if you want to do any region and are willing to travel unlike some from that region and you are willing to pay your entry then why shouldnt you race

Applying that theory of yours we could have a miss uk from Jamaica ???

And England's football team would be full of south Americans ??

It's like a cat winning cruffs

The list is endless

I'm not speaking from my personal situaition as I'm booked in for the available rounds so far
So I've got in for 2 bury and southport then not quick enough to get in for the rest I miss out and have done 2 nw regionals for nothing.


So when holding a regional co

[footey]

well then if thats the case should the north west region be using a club not in the north west which then leaves you very low on tracks to use

[budfish]

well then if thats the case should the north west region be using a club not in the north west which then leaves you very low on tracks to use

I know what you are saying mate but batley is very much on the border and also The same club runs chadderton which is in the north west

I don't know the politics behind it but why dos'nt south lakes run 2 rounds of the 6:confused:

[sly]

I don't know the politics behind it but why dos'nt south lakes run 2 rounds of the 6:confused:

I don't think they can get the venue twice within the year otherwise they would get my vote for a 2nd round.

[RickRick]

Southlakes are willing to run 2 rounds, the club discused it at our agm, i'm not sure why batley was asked to run rather than us for a second meeting

[pugboy]

The entry sytem unfortunately is a bit of a 'free for all' rather than perhaps an emailing list for interested people who wish to do the minimum number of rounds to qualify are all emailed at the same time with a single link or entry for to book in for all rounds (and also publicising on oople). Then, similarly to Nationals, there should be a closing date say 3 weeks later after which priority system for entries (but not the same criteria as Nationals) is used and people can be told yay or nay and x reserve. It would take a bit of administering though and someone would have to put in the time to do it.

As rounds seem to be quite oversubscribed (as happened when the dates went up last year) perhaps the 2 and 4wd classes could be split, but so as to minimise clashes, it could be a 3 from 5 or even 3 from 4 rounds for each class (if that satisfies BRCA rules?).

[footey]

rickrick batley only got 1 round mate i think the best way to sort it out is split the 2wd and 4wd on to seprete days

[losichris]

Im very gutted about this, been lucking forward to regionals all winter, and because ive been away over the last 2 week, ive missed out on round1 at southport!!!

[RickRick]

and 2 NE rounds for batley club

[Evo_Snr]

Im very gutted about this, been lucking forward to regionals all winter, and because ive been away over the last 2 week, ive missed out on round1 at southport!!!

I don't what you mean , You are booked in for round 1 at Southport !:o

[losichris]

I don't what you mean , You are booked in for round 1 at Southport !:o

Oh right, i PM'd this morning, and got no reply, so i assumed it was full and i was reserved.

[carpenterdean]

Possibly another idea is to let you do either 2wd or 4wd not both, i'm booked in to do both but would be willing to give one up to let someone else race, did do last year at southport, left the 4wd at home but then there was enough space for me to run both as people are in a frenzy to book in then don't even turn up:confused: to late by then though.
so maybe a pre pay system is a better way of making it more likely that people will turn up after they have booked in.

[budfish]

Possibly another idea is to let you do either 2wd or 4wd not both, i'm booked in to do both but would be willing to give one up to let someone else race, did do last year at southport, left the 4wd at home but then there was enough space for me to run both as people are in a frenzy to book in then don't even turn up:confused: to late by then though.
so maybe a pre pay system is a better way of making it more likely that people will turn up after they have booked in.

Pre pay is definatley a good way of getting rid of the no shows!!

What if you was only able to book in and compete in 4 of the 6 that in theory would free up 33.3% of the available number????

[Si Coe]

Seems to me its fairly simple, but obviously this applies from next year as its too late for this one:

1) Central booking in. Really not that hard to arrange a central spreadsheet of who is entered for what. Specific details (transponders, crystals etc) need not be on at this level, its just for numbers.

2) Priority for North West drivers. I'm not suggesting no drivers from other regions but its nuts that once again NW drivers have missed out as all the spaces are full. Of course the discussion of what makes you a NW driver is relevant here.

3) Priority for those entering the minimum 4 qualifying rounds. I don't think demanding the whole series is realistic, but you need 4 scores to get an F grade so if you aren't doing that many you are potentially taking up a space for someone who is.

4) Some sort of prepayment. I know for a fact some drivers have booked in for classes they don't even have a car for yet! There are regularly a good number of no-shows from those pre-booked, and given the speed the spaces are going some drivers are simply booking in without checking dates etc. At present there is little incentive not to do so. There needs to be a way to penalise those who book up spaces they won't actually use, as thats another racer missing out.

I'll be perfectly happy to help with this when the time comes, but this sort of arrangement needs to be in place well in advance.

[gazhillAE]

People with post codes outside the northwest region should not be allowed to book in for northwest regionals.i know some people prefer the one day 2 classes thing but if that's not the way it's done in the region they live well they need to take it up with the brca rep in their region. It's their problem not ours.

Example:- one bloke lives in east yorkshire but prefers the one day format so let's say he's in the top ten to fire emails off the the relevant clubs and so he's booked in for all northwest regionals.so then some one like me dos'nt get his emails off and is then forced to travel far greater distances for twice the number of times due to the 2 day format!!!! Absolute farce and totally unfair in my eyes

Sort it out the stu wood!!!

X2 as I've always said before
All this only started two years ago it was fine before then!

[gazhillAE]

This is IMO


Race Events
More than 120 drivers is way too many, when you think about it this is why a well run and fully organised event like UK Nationals cap to around 120 drivers, I not saying the North West is badly run by the way, it’s just not as good as Nationals as you would expect. The North West is growing every year and has now become a very big region and I think is time the clubs started looking at splitting 2wd and 4wd or people that book into all the events get priority, as you will find that each club will have racers that only race at their local club and are not willing to travel. Unfortunately I feel that the region will push people away to other regions where you can race and be home before local regional has even finished.

Look at the mid-west’s link this is how it should be done. They have 7/8 heats per class properly the same as us, they also have three legged A-Finals which I now its not for everyone but it gives a much better sceptical for the people watching.

http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk/calendar2012.html)

Booking In
Right what the hell is going on with booking in, I want to book in to all the North West regional events yeah!! Why can I not just send one email which books me in for all these events? What I have to do is book each event separately, which is okay but what happens if clubs are not taking pre-booking in or start taking pre-booking in later in the week when I am not on oople. It’s just completely and utterly rubbish.

Driving Standard
The driving standard in the North-west is horrendous compared to other Regions. I went to Coventry the last weekend and I have forgotten how much better it is. I raced at Chadderton the week before and people were jumping the track blatantly, In the A final, one racer was in front of two other racers and were all close together on the track, he crashed and end up on the wrong side on the track, he waited for the other racers to come round but then carried on in front of them, basically gaining two places, this is top 10 racers for that meeting!!! You should get back on the track where you crashed and carry on. It’s the same when we go outdoors. Why don’t we have referees?? I am willing to help, maybe give a referee an incentive to referee, pay them by means of free entry for the son or daughter that’s racing or free food, maybe referees should be picked at drivers briefing, which then goes back to organisation and running smaller meetings.

At the minute I am serious considering not doing NW Regional’s because of the above and I also know people that are thinking the same.

Stuart Wood, sort it out please!!!

Comments are welcome

Agree with every point!
And if it was just the NW guys racing then it would dusting shed alot earlier like it use to be rather than packing up at 7-8pm!

[MikePimlott]

I dont think you can tell people that they can or cant race based on where they live.

End of the day if they are willing to travel and pay to race its better for numerous reasons, better competition, more money for the hosting club.

I have raced in both North East and Mid West regional series' as well as North West and have been welcomed in both. I would like to show that same support to people who want to come and race on our tracks in the NW.

The only problem we have of over subscription is because we have both classes on one Sunday, there is ONLY ONE WAY to solve this.

[paulc]

People with post codes outside the northwest region should not be allowed to book in for northwest regionals.i know some people prefer the one day 2 classes thing but if that's not the way it's done in the region they live well they need to take it up with the brca rep in their region. It's their problem not ours.

Example:- one bloke lives in east yorkshire but prefers the one day format so let's say he's in the top ten to fire emails off the the relevant clubs and so he's booked in for all northwest regionals.so then some one like me dos'nt get his emails off and is then forced to travel far greater distances for twice the number of times due to the 2 day format!!!! Absolute farce and totally unfair in my eyes

Sort it out the stu wood!!!

Sorry don't agree with that at the end of the day the racer pays there entry so they should be able to race were ever they like

Do agree there should be a central booking in and pay in advance liike other people have mentioned

And just getting people to do one class would free up places would this be able to be done for this years regional series ?

[sly]

Central booking is a good idea and was talked about last year but something happened that stopped the idea going forward at that time.
Central booking is a good idea untill a driver doesn't have paypal or any of the other methods of pre payment.

[paulc]

Just get someone with Paypal then give them the cash that not to much of a problem

[Si Coe]

Whilst I don't think you should bar racers from outside the region entering, they should only be there to fill up spaces. After all the point of the series is to allow racers in the north west to clock up points towards an F rating. If your F rating is being calculated from a different series then why hog spaces in somebody elses?

How about you are only allowed to race in one regions series. Free choice on the region - if you don't mind the travel why not, but you must declare the one only.

The reason this issue matters is that once again the NW series is now shut out. Not booked in yet? Well no point now as you won't get in enough rounds to score.

This is not the way to run what is after all the grass roots of the sport. The whole idea of regionals is that you don't have to travel too far, opening it up to the regular club driver, but many are being put off by the mad scramble for spaces.

[budfish]

Well said Si thats basiclly what I wanted to say!! What a diffrence a phd makes:thumbsup:

[losichris]

there used to be non region heats for drivers running other series

[MikePimlott]

You can only score points in one region thats already a rule,

[carpenterdean]

in all fairness we went through this crap at the beginning of last season and yet here we are again:confused:

[Si Coe]

I know you can only score points in one, so why take the space of someone who could score points if you can't?

It would make sense if non-scorers are automatically on the reserve list for example.

[Evo_Snr]

I know you can only score points in one, so why take the space of someone who could score points if you can't?

It would make sense if non-scorers are automatically on the reserve list for example.
There are no non-scores booked in.

[WHITTLER555]

Nobody has scored in any region until the first round is done and both first rounds of the NW and NE are on the same day?

Now if someone can be in two places at once I would like to see it?

This is dejavu from last year, everybody who turned up to Southport got to race, I don't remember anyone being turned away from Batley and by the time we got to round 3 at South Lakes, it rained a bit and half the people went home!

The region is run to BRCA rules which state anyone can race in any region but only score points in one.

If you want to change the rules go to the BRCA AGM, put your rule change in writing and get it voted through.

Dave Budfish, I know you are better than these comments:-

People with post codes outside the northwest region should not be allowed to book in for northwest regionals.i know some people prefer the one day 2 classes thing but if that's not the way it's done in the region they live well they need to take it up with the brca rep in their region. It's their problem not ours.

[budfish]

I know what you mean I didn't intend for it to come across as so "I'm all right jack"

But it dos'nt stop the fact that the region is over subscribed and the system in place at the moment is slightly unfair with regards to people who don't have Internet access 24/7

Last year I was only available for 4 dates on the calendar southport round 1 being one of them unfortunately I didn't get my email off quick enough and didn't get in there for not being able to complete 4 rounds I dropped a f-grade so that's why I have voiced my opinion on it.

I don't wish to exclude anyone from anything(apart from captain lip) but I also believe everyone should have a fair crack of the whip.at the moment our hobby is having a bit of a revival with lots of new racers coming through how wish to run regionals so there fore we need places freed up to allow them to see what is expected when racing at anything other than a club meet.

I'm very open minded how we deal with the problem and the points I've put a cross in this thread are just ideas I'm not saying they are right or wrong or better than anyone else's just my personal views

Buds

[Nightshade]

I find it strange that we've lost Keighley from our regional list this year with the club closing due to lack of racers, and yet Southport books up in 30 second flat...

[Si Coe]

The problem is racers aren't evenly distributed across the region. Plus a lot of people race whats run locally.
For example, there are a couple of 1/8th clubs around Preston, but none further south - thats heavily 1/10th with Southport and Bury.

Also plenty of successful clubs that can't run regionals. Ribble Valley is a very popular club, but its on Fridays, its indoors and its pretty flat, so they couldn't host a round of the series there. But unsurprisingly their members would like to take part too.

[bigred5765]

I find it strange that we've lost Keighley from our regional list this year with the club closing due to lack of racers, and yet Southport books up in 30 second flat...

not taking any sides but the first post is over a week old,
and first post is asking people to book in for the first regional

[Nightshade]

I know, and I am lucky enough to be booked in. But still, it's not like any of the rounds will dead

[Si Coe]

not taking any sides but the first post is over a week old,
and first post is asking people to book in for the first regional


Very true. Or you could say the first regional booked up in under a week. Its the same thing, different perspective.
I guess it depends on whether you consider that ample time or not.

[sly]

Very true. Or you could say the first regional booked up in under a week. Its the same thing, different perspective.
I guess it depends on whether you consider that ample time or not.

20th of Feb is when the first booking was received, and the last one before a reserve list was started was 29th so my maths makes that over a week.

Si coe, did you send a email to book in? If not you can have mine.

[Si Coe]

No - I've not booked in as right now I can't be sure I can do the required 4 rounds to qualify so I'm not taking up a space. I didn't run last year for the same reason. This is something I feel quite strongly about, strongly enough to apply it to myself!


Oh, and the fact that my wife only lets me out to Bury club meets because I'm part of the committee. :thumbdown:

Thanks for the offer though!

[danDanEFC]

Go on SiCoe take Slys place.

I can beat you but Sly is a much better toy car driver than both of us.

Think of our F ratings!

[sly]

Go on SiCoe take Slys place.

I can beat you but Sly is a much better toy car driver than both of us.

Think of our F ratings!

I'll even use my mini8.

[craigosh]

Just wondering if anyone suggesting central booking in for Regionals is going to step-up and actually offer to set it all up and run it?

I don't see it easing how fast they all book up anyway. Your just going to get EVERY regional booking up in a week!

Agree with Mr Pimlott that the Regionals really now have to become 2 day events. Its the only way we are likely to cope with the current demand.

[Si Coe]

TBH I'm so bad my F rating doesn't actually improve if I do take part! And this year I'd be in the much more popular 2wd class and score even less points.

What we need is a regional class that only you and I race in, so we are guaranteed 100 and 99 points a round respectively......

Anyway Aidan, being able to beat me is nothing to boast about. Track markers can beat me!

[Si Coe]

Just wondering if anyone suggesting central booking in for Regionals is going to step-up and actually offer to set it all up and run it?

I don't see it easing how fast they all book up anyway. Your just going to get EVERY regional booking up in a week!

Agree with Mr Pimlott that the Regionals really now have to become 2 day events. Its the only way we are likely to cope with the current demand.


True they'd all book up, but if they all book up with people committed to doing the whole series thats got to be a good thing.
The problem tends to be a mad rush for the first round or 2, then gradual trailing off after that.
There is also a lot of only doing the local one etc.
Basically everyone that wants to qualify for an F rating should get a chance. Central booking could help priorise that.

And I think I said I would help though I admit I'm no expert so would need someone more knowledgeable to do the actual running.

[MikePimlott]

The only problem we have is too many people racing on one day

The only way to split the people is the 2WD/4WD classes

Move the 2WD regionals and 4WD regionals to seperate sundays.

Problem solved.

No need for a central booking in process either, because the over subscription problem goes away.


AND im sure it could be implemented this year.

[Evo_Snr]

The only problem we have is too many people racing on one day

The only way to split the people is the 2WD/4WD classes

Move the 2WD regionals and 4WD regionals to seperate sundays.

Problem solved.

No need for a central booking in process either, because the over subscription problem goes away.


AND im sure it could be implemented this year.


I agree with running 2wd and 4wd on separate days . This would only work in an ideal world.
We only have four clubs so if each club ran a 2wd and 4wd that would only make a four round series.
Then you would get the drivers who do both classes dropping one due to the expense of fuel and travelling,

[MikePimlott]

I agree with running 2wd and 4wd on separate days . This would only work in an ideal world.
We only have four clubs so if each club ran a 2wd and 4wd that would only make a four round series.
Then you would get the drivers who do both classes dropping one due to the expense of fuel and travelling,

As already been said by RickRick, run 2 rounds at each NW club.

2 @ Southport
2 @ Bury
2 @ Southlakes

1 clockwise and then 1 anti-clockwise for a thought?

count 4 from 6, for each class 2WD / 4WD. Yes this takes up 12 weekends, but tough shit, it solves a problem.

Yes the travelling costs are then increased for the people who want to do it, the people who dont, dont have to travel.

Maybe the hosting club could make up numbers by running extra heats of non regional points scoring heats for club members i.e. at a southlakes 4wd regional have a guest heat or 2 of 2WD ?

This is the way forward.

[sly]

As already been said by RickRick, run 2 rounds at each NW club.

2 @ Southport
2 @ Bury
2 @ Southlakes

1 clockwise and then 1 anti-clockwise for a thought?

count 4 from 6, for each class 2WD / 4WD. Yes this takes up 12 weekends, but tough shit, it solves a problem.

Yes the travelling costs are then increased for the people who want to do it, the people who dont, dont have to travel.

Maybe the hosting club could make up numbers by running extra heats of non regional points scoring heats for club members i.e. at a southlakes 4wd regional have a guest heat or 2 of 2WD ?

This is the way forward.

We all know that this is what should of happened and we all know that its to late to do this for 2012.
Stu Wood will do a better job then stu evans has done, I thank stu Evans for his effort and time but also would say he has done a poor job over the last 2 yrs with not addressing this recurring problem.

[budfish]

20th of Feb is when the first booking was received, and the last one before a reserve list was started was 29th so my maths makes that over a week.

Si coe, did you send a email to book in? If not you can have mine.

That's kind of like asking a 3 legged horse run the grand national!!

Again selfless act offering your space to some one who didn't get in you did the same for me last year but I'd spat my dummy by then and decided to cut my nose offf instead!!!:thumbsup: top bloke

[Evo_Snr]

As already been said by RickRick, run 2 rounds at each NW club.

2 @ Southport
2 @ Bury
2 @ Southlakes

1 clockwise and then 1 anti-clockwise for a thought?

count 4 from 6, for each class 2WD / 4WD. Yes this takes up 12 weekends, but tough shit, it solves a problem.

Yes the travelling costs are then increased for the people who want to do it, the people who dont, dont have to travel.

a guest heat or 2 of 2WD ?

This is the way forward.
So what you are actually saying is that each club would have to run 4 regionals each.:thumbdown:

[MikePimlott]

So what you are actually saying is that each club would have to run 4 regionals each.:thumbdown:

It's only a suggestion, Whats the issue?

People pay more to race at a regional and like i said before the hosting club could add a few more heats on the regional for club racers not scoring points on that perticular day!

Its win win :thumbsup:

[Evo_Snr]

It's only a suggestion, Whats the issue?

People pay more to race at a regional and like i said before the hosting club could add a few more heats on the regional for club racers not scoring points on that perticular day!

Its win win :thumbsup:
With Nationals / Euros / Worlds etc there are not enough weeks in the summer.

[Si Coe]

If we don't close on the weeks other clubs run a regional that would help.

At Bury we have quite a few truck racers for example that don't race regionals whatever the format, so a regional in Southport means nothing to them. Last year they were asking us to open when regionals were on. If the regional is just say 4wd, then those with only 2wd's aren't going to be going either, so again you can still hold a club meet.

The downside is that closing for regionals helps promote the series, but if its over subscribed as it is thats less of an issue.

[woOdy]

I think you should all just wait and see what happens.
I have had confirmation now off all clubs to hold an emergency meeting so we can talk about this year and I hope to organise that over the next week and hope to hold it very soon after that.
We also have a meeting with the BRCA on the 27th of March so if anyone has any ideas please let me know and I can ask when I go.
Lets just wait a while and see what this meeting brings and we can put all this to bed.
Thanks
Stu Wood
North West Rep

[footey]

hi stu

could you please ask the BRCA if they say only people with a postcode from that region can actully race in that region i am 1 of the people from east yorkshire and to be fair im feeling alot of unwelcomeness from some of the north west drivers and im considering pulling out and not racing in any regionals:cry:


ps i already know the answer but might clear it up for some of the others

[barry]

I think you should all just wait and see what happens.
I have had confirmation now off all clubs to hold an emergency meeting so we can talk about this year and I hope to organise that over the next week and hope to hold it very soon after that.
We also have a meeting with the BRCA on the 27th of March so if anyone has any ideas please let me know and I can ask when I go.
Lets just wait a while and see what this meeting brings and we can put all this to bed.
Thanks
Stu Wood
North West Rep

Hi Stu,

Might there be a change to the dates for this year?

Barry

[Si Coe]

hi stu

could you please ask the BRCA if they say only people with a postcode from that region can actully race in that region i am 1 of the people from east yorkshire and to be fair im feeling alot of unwelcomeness from some of the north west drivers and im considering pulling out and not racing in any regionals:cry:


ps i already know the answer but might clear it up for some of the others


You shouldn't feel unwelcome as you haven't done anything wrong. As the rules presently stand (and will for the 2012 season) you are legitimately allowed to take part in this series, just as much so as any other driver.

What is being proposed is a rule change for the 2013 season - no such rule exists now so you can't be breaking it.
The reason for the proposal isn't because we hate people from Yorkshire (though its a good reason :woot: ) its simply to control numbers in the North West region. Nobody bears you personally any ill wish, and we'd rather you could race with us, but something needs to be done.....

[Jonesy]

Just to let you know, in the Mid-West we run 5 x 4wd regionals and 5x 2wd Regionals over the summer, works really well as this year we have 5 clubs participating so each club gets one round of each

PS: I live in the North West but choose to go to the Mid-West because of threads like this even it means travelling 2.5 hours Ledbury and 2 hours to Coventry and Hinckley instead of 40 mins to Southport and 35 mins to Bury :thumbsup:

[Jonesy]

PPS: Any rule proposal to ban drivers from entering a regional series they don't live in is laughable, good luck to Woody with sorting out you lot! Knowing Stu as I do he'll do a great job (if you guys let him)

[cwp]

S@$t

[danDanEFC]

Is this thread just copied from last year!

Let's just get on having a good year and I am sure all the people in the thread will help Stu make any improvements the members want.

Wherever they live

[Tom3012]

Kind of on the fence with this, but there are a few things that bug me...

People who travel the longer distance to regionals, often they turn up late/later once all the track has been set up etc, then at the end of the day they leave as soon as they have raced and marshalled, again leaving the track and surrounding areas to be put away and tidied by the local region people...

Secondly, a lot of the people i saw at the NW regionals last year from other regions never turned out for a normal club day? So while they say they are supporting the region, really, their not...

Now i get the fact its a long drive home so you want to leave as soon as possible, but so do all the local people who have to pack up at the end of the day... They made the commiment to drive here for 2 hours or however long, tidying up afterwards for 5 mins shouldnt make much difference to the already long drive?

:woot:

[Northy]

I was trying to keep out of this but......

1) A lot of people posting in here need to have a read of their copy of the BRCA rule book - the Regional series has to be run to the rules in that book.

2) Having done the Regional rep job in the past for a few years, I actually think Stu Evans has done a good job for a long time. IMHO it is because the NW has been run how it has that has made it so popular.

3) I'm sure Stu Wood will do all he can to sort this out - but as he has already posted it will take some time and patience. Some of the stuff posted in this thread just can not happen - I refer you to #1 above.

[Tom3012]

I refer you to #1 above.

Hope you dont mean me? :eh?:

[MikePimlott]

Hope you dont mean me? :eh?:

No he means number 1) read the rule book.

[MikePimlott]

What is being proposed is a rule change for the 2013 season - no such rule exists now so you can't be breaking it.
The reason for the proposal isn't because we hate people from Yorkshire (though its a good reason :woot: ) its simply to control numbers in the North West region

Who is this "WE" ?

What are "YOU" proposing ?

What do you actually know about the Regional series ? How many have you raced in ?

I can not believe that such a rule that states you get priority to the regional series if you live closer to the region / track is running through your head!

stupid discrimination is what should not be accepted in the region!

Peace :cool:

[Si Coe]

I'm one of the committee members for one of the clubs in the region, and I've been asked by some of my clubs members to look into this as they aren't too keen on the current situation.

I've raced in regionals before in two regions (SE and now NW) and whilst I didn't race last year, and won't this year because I disapprove of the way its run, I ran race control (for a while) at our round, and no doubt will again this year.

It should be considered that the only reason there is a series at all is with the support of the clubs involved. If the drivers of the clubs that make up the NW series don't get enough out of it to want to continue, the series dies even though it has good numbers. If our drivers can't enter the local series because its all booked up they are going to start wondering why we bother running it. Yes they could travel to another region, but why should they when the club they are part of, and lend their time to help work, is running a round or two?

Ultimately it NEEDS the support of the NW drivers, even if it also has drivers from other regions entering too.

[cwp]

It's simple you can't stop people racing.
If a yank came over and had a current brca license and wanted to race
In the NW you can't stop them.
The nw clubs can't say who can and can't race.
Only the club can say if they would like to run a metting.
And then only to brca rules.
I think it's totally unfair to try and ban people that have made the effort
To support the nw for years just because they ant nw init.

[Oscar]

We all know that this is what should of happened and we all know that its to late to do this for 2012.
Stu Wood will do a better job then stu evans has done, I thank stu Evans for his effort and time but also would say he has done a poor job over the last 2 yrs with not addressing this recurring problem.

Stu Evans isn't superman, he has a job and a home life just as his successor Stu Wood. The region will only prosper if it has input from all the clubs. All the clubs involved in the region need to work together to organise and provide a series in which their respective members can compete against each other. This can only ever work if people work together and not leave everything to one individual.

[woOdy]

Come on guys, this is getting silly.
Nobody can stop anyone racing!
Regards people outside the region not supporting any of the clubs IN the region then I can remember a curtain Oople tattoo'd person and friends/family coming to Bury on several club days when it was very quiet so full respect to them.

Please guys remember that things may change yet:o

Just wait and see. You never know.

[budfish]

Topic:- brca regional event oversubscription (north west)

Debate:- ideas to make more places available


Solution :- upto the brca


I feel Si Coe and myself are being singled out as non-northwest haters!!!
This is not the case. We was only thinking aloud/ debating with an open mind to a solution so please less of the witch hunt for what was and is just an opinion.

[budfish]

It's only a suggestion, Whats the issue?

Excactly mike

[barry]

Topic:- brca regional event oversubscription (north west)

Debate:- ideas to make more places available


Solution :- upto the brca


I feel Si Coe and myself are being singled out as non-northwest haters!!!
This is not the case. We was only thinking aloud/ debating with an open mind to a solution so please less of the witch hunt for what was and is just an opinion.

Thanks for the recap - I was beginning to forget the original issue!

NE region splits 2wd and 4wd over Saturday and Sunday: http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93048. Would that help?

[footey]

cheers Woody i am that tattooed oople person and yes i did travel to bury and southport for club days and other events they held i am never late to meeting and yes i do leave early to travel home as it is such a long day as i travel from the east coast and i mean on the coast i dont attend bury now as i think some of the people who help run or attend there are obnoxious and very { this is our club go away } which is ashame as i get on so well with woody

shane foot from HULL in east yorkshire

[WHITTLER555]

WARRIOR! From the HULL Mafia.

[footey]

cheers damo that was ment to be kept secret i will have to kill you know so expect and horses head on your pillow ;)

[budfish]

WARRIOR! From the HULL Mafia.

cheers damo that was ment to be kept secret i will have to kill you know so expect and horses head on your pillow ;)

Ha ha i bet you can sense the fear???

And with you being from hull isn't it more likely to be a donkeys head? Cheaper than horses so plenty of cash left for some sand bags eh!!

http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb457/Budfish1975/ca92f737.jpg

[footey]

never flooded near me so no it be a horses head

[Tom3012]

cheers Woody i am that tattooed oople person and yes i did travel to bury and southport for club days and other events they held i am never late to meeting and yes i do leave early to travel home as it is such a long day as i travel from the east coast and i mean on the coast i dont attend bury now as i think some of the people who help run or attend there are obnoxious and very { this is our club go away } which is ashame as i get on so well with woody

shane foot from HULL in east yorkshire


My comment wasnt aimed at you, sorry if you took offence :(

Just i have seen SOME drivers act like this, which is a shame.

[Jonesy]

......

[themyster]

Well I wasn't even aware that they had opened until late last week when pimlot let me know, but of course then I was to late to book in for southport.
I surpose it was my own fault for not going on oople for over a week, Eric has booked me in for the second round but I don't know if I've got into bury yet. If not I won't bother doing any of the series and just do some club racing.
It is surposed to fun and not a cut throuhgt.
I really enjoy racing but with some of the bad drivers that raced last coming to reginals again I don't know if I should even bother and yes there is ALOT OF CRAP put on the forum.

[tony12795]

Mate, sorry to here you missed out on the first meeting, like I said if your doing four or them all you should get priority.

Pm Woody (Stuart Wood reg rep) see what he can do for you.

[tony12795]

Jonesy,

Pee of into your own section you mid-west (who lives in the north west) driver....:p

Oh hope your post code let's you in the mid-west lol!!!


......

[bigred5765]

Jonesy,

Pee of into your own section you mid-west (who likes in the north west) driver....:p

Oh hope your post code let's you in the mid-west lol!!!
i still reckon tony is mid west:p:lol:

[tony12795]

Think your in enough trouble Carl..... :o

i still reckon tony is mid west:p:lol:

[bigred5765]

me trouble hehehe

[MikePimlott]

The myster is Mr Mike Bradbury who has been racing in the NW longer than Noah has been rowing an Ark.

Mike is not the only person i know who has not been on oople and has missed this free for all. There are about 3-4 friends who have also missed out.

Its a real shame that the region has come to this. With no email notifications or such for entries being open it comes down to who goes on oople to accept who can or cant race.

[matdodd]

i still reckon tony is mid west:p:lol:

hes been spoilt after doing mid west for a few years thats all lol

I'm sure if they were closer he would still be doing them

How many people normally do enough rounds to count in you regionals mate? as looking from the outside it seams like there always over subscribed.

[themyster]

The myster is Mr Mike Bradbury who has been racing in the NW longer than Noah has been rowing an Ark.

Mike is not the only person i know who has not been on oople and has missed this free for all. There are about 3-4 friends who have also missed out.

Its a real shame that the region has come to this. With no email notifications or such for entries being open it comes down to who goes on oople to accept who can or cant race.
Thanks for that Mike I agree fully with you, but of course people doing at least 4 rounds should get priority over people doing less.
We all know that money has a lot to do with it know with the price of fuel and of course everything else going up in price also.
If it had been thought out who ever is in charge this is, abouit how many people would be attending the series and try to sort a way in which everyone who wants to do N-WEST should be able to.
I'm not saying it would have been easy but putting a notice on oople at the start of the year would have given time to help sort things out.
I know things are still up in the air at the moment and with Batley pulling out as well it can't all be put on WOODY ERIC ROGER and who ever runs Southlakes.....

[The race controller]

OK, My view.
Entries should be made through your local club like the old days.
Keith Meredith and Bob Gregory (RIP) used to do a fantastic job for Leigh Car club, collecting names and money in advance.
I'll hold my hands up, I'm too lazy to do it the way they did it.
Far easier to sit on my arse and let the names roll/e-mail in.
Lack of numbers in previous years has lead to the state we're in so let's change it, for the better.
Somebody start one of those voting thingies.
.....all in favour of......separate days for 2wd and 4wd
............................limited entries with both classes on the same day
...................2 of three to count (as in separate classes each day)
.........or each club running 4 events (2 2wd + 2 4wd) and 4 to count(4of6)

Remember this forum does not reach everybody

[MikePimlott]

Somebody start one of those voting thingies.
.....all in favour of......separate days for 2wd and 4wd
............................limited entries with both classes on the same day
...................2 of three to count (as in separate classes each day)
.........or each club running 4 events (2 2wd + 2 4wd) and 4 to count(4of6)

Remember this forum does not reach everybody

DONE:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95512

[derek mc]

I suppose you need to sort out what you really want. If you look at the southport entry list over 40 drivers are booked into 2 classes so even though it shows 143 entries it is actually only 100 drivers. do you let more people race by only allowing people to do 1 class afterall you can get your "f" grade on either class no need to do both. Making the choice would open up the meetings to another 20 competitors without over filling the meeting.This is what we done many years ago when the offroad boom started, my personal feelings are to limit competitors to 1 class only and get more people racing.

[MikePimlott]

Limiting drivers to doing only one class in a regional series is just a joke.

This answer is usually suggested by people who only have one car too, so it doesnt effect them.

[bigred5765]

OK then heres one ill volunteer myself for running and setting up central booking system for the northwest,

[Si Coe]

Limiting drivers to doing only one class in a regional series is just a joke.

This answer is usually suggested by people who only have one car too, so it doesnt effect them.

Also racing 1 class in a 12 heat meeting means waiting around for an hour and a half between races - at the first Southport regional 2 years back I dismantled and rebuilt my XX4 between rounds. It wasn't broken, I just had so much time it kill I thought why not!

[MikePimlott]

Also racing 1 class in a 12 heat meeting means waiting around for an hour and a half between races - at the first Southport regional 2 years back I dismantled and rebuilt my XX4 between rounds. It wasn't broken, I just had so much time it kill I thought why not!

:lol:

[bigred5765]

heres a test page
http://northwest-central.weebly.com/

[Stu]

WOW - Damo's X5 - that warrior didn't last very long.

[WHITTLER555]

The body for that is in the loft, ready for when I get another:lol:

[gazhillAE]

Evo,

Cancel my 2wd entry for southport please buddy.
That will let someone else in :thumbsup:

[Evo_Snr]

Evo,

Cancel my 2wd entry for southport please buddy.
That will let someone else in :thumbsup:
Will do Gaz

[woOdy]

Hi Guys,

I am holding an emergency North West meeting this Sat which will have one person from each club attending to talk about this year.
Things may even change yet so could every body just hold on tight untill we have this all organised propper and I will let everybody know as soon as things have been agreed.

Thanks:thumbsup: