Project Tamiya Lunchbox, The Brushlessbox

[Thomas P]

http://www.sevenofnine.se/rsb/images/bbox_banner.jpg

1st off, im from Sweden, my English aint so good, and i hope ya all can understand some of what i will wright here..can someone post a link with the code so i can do the pics SMALLER, thank you

To make a long story, short. My first ever rc-car was a Tamiya Wildwilly got it back in -82 still have it...DRY rubberwheels :D. No electronics, but someday...i will restore it.

I have always wanted a LB, a friend had one back in the 80´s and there it started...so for a few days ago, i did it..i ordred the LB from Honkong, but before everything, i read a lot of the car on rcuniverse, and here. Still a lot of unanswered questions, but hopfully they will come :).

Since im in to racing 95% of my rc time, i have a need for speed.. (2wd and 4wd buggy El 1:10th). But this one, wont come near the performance my buggys will give me, i wil only build this one for fun, and to have anything to play with..kind of missed it a bit..

I hope to "pimp" it so much i can, and do some job on the handling...a major order from Towerhobbies will go on Tuesday. Will use Brushless spedo from LRP and a motor, around 6-7.5r and Lipo 4400mah for some runtime..

This is a copy from my project thread in Sweden..enjoy and il try to keep ya all updated.

Thomas P / back to basic :)?


Tires and rims...

Bought Hornet AluHEX, they will let me try some diff 12mm Hex rims... i have or will order thoose..

RPM Bully rear/front (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMTA0&P=7) (5mm axel är det, där har vi Traxxas NR som e bra)
HPI SS Monster Wheel (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM875&P=V)
Traxxas Front Light wheel Dyable Truck (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJ87&P=C)

Rims above wil be shrouded with Proline rubber

Trac-Ta-Gator (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDT93&P=7)
Speed Paw (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDT95&P=7)
Striker II. (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDT97&P=7)

Batteries are as i said erlier, not decided yet, but it will probably be E-Power lipo 4400 mah 2s 20-30C series

My goal with this isnt speed , only joy..it will have a custom painted Parma lexan body for use, and a "nicer" stock body for meeting...

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20/3-2008

Car is ordred, app time to arrive in Swe 1 week
21/3-2008

Alloy Hex, app 2 veeks

22/3-2008

Starting the PAINFULL job to grind down my New FT rc10B4 shockhouse...this one is the tricky part..hard anodized .

Shocks in a Mr Muscle bath

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080322076.jpg

23/3-2008

After a few hours...i was sooo close to give up...this is a true XXXX job, but something ive started i MUST end...Left house stock color..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080323086.jpg

At last...the first one is done...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080323088.jpg

The left one is my second, it is only "sanded, and it do realy have a weak surface, but the camera dont do it right... il think i go for the polished ones

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080323090.jpg

Stay tune for updates...


/Thomas P

[Thomas P]

Final update for this day...Shock nr2 (the one that i only brushed)..think Dremel and a tube of Autosol can do some miracles :D

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080323093.jpg

[Thomas P]

Ok, so i took the motor today...my choice fell on a Novak motor, the new one with Sintred (this is used,some scratches, but ok) rotor.a 6.5r will be good.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080324099.jpg

First some Mr Muscle bath, to remove the most of the Purple color..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080324102.jpg

Middle ring is done..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080324106.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080324107.jpg

And the result..enjoy!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080324108.jpg

[Thomas P]

The car arrived today...to bad was the Lipo i wanted they where out of stock...so i went for some smaller lipos.. no building untill BB arrives, that will be Thursday..hopfully all other parts will come Friday (UPS from USA to Swe...) so maybe Sunday will be a "nice day"

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080325110.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/20080325111.jpg

[Thomas P]

http://www.sevenofnine.se/rsb/images/bbox_banner.jpg

27/3-2008

So..finaly, everything but the 12mm Hornet 12mm hex have arrived..but they are ordred and abut a week or so..

Some building and parts..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030936.jpg

All BB

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030937.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030939.jpg

KInd of pleased..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030943.jpg

Sleeves..my best friend :D

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030946.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030948.jpg

Some stuff :P

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030949.jpg

[Thomas P]

http://www.sevenofnine.se/rsb/images/bbox_banner.jpg



Some update..

Mounted some shocks..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030950.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030951.jpg

Prolines Striker II..ME LIKE!!!!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030952.jpg

distance is no issue

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030953.jpg

One word.HPI adapters seems to working ACE

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030955.jpg

[Thomas P]

So, this is the final update for the day..

http://www.sevenofnine.se/rsb/images/bbox_banner.jpg

Yes i will do that, asap. last race of the indoor season this weekend, so no more LBs untill Sat night..

Did some sleeving..don´t know yet if i will hold on to the "fat" sleeve, or use 3 small..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030957.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030958.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030959.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030960.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030961.jpg

[Kiwi Kruisa]

YOU ARE MAD!!!

[Thomas P]

someone MUST be that :D:D

[Spoolio]

Dude, you are craaaazyyyyyy. You have to keep posting pictures of this, it is truly mental. Will you put a video on YouTube when its finished?

[Thomas P]

It WILL be videolized, :D ... i can only hope i will be done on a Week or so..

thnx for hose words, trying to do my best :D

[Supergreg]

Keep it up! great stuff!!!

[Twister]

Great Stuff Thomas :thumbsup: I'm inspired to build a bullfrog.. But brushless in a lunchbox? Awesome!

[franki]

Thats fab mate looks the business!!!!!! i take it has upgraded bearings to handle the power not the old plastic ones!!!!!

[neiloliver]

Those shock bodies.. how exactly did you get them shiny silver like that? just cleaned them in Mr Muscle cleaner?? which one?

Neil

[DCM]

Autosolvo by the looks of it, but you either got to keep doing it or sprat lacquer them (but they loose a little shine).

Looks wicked though!!

[Thomas P]

So..final race is over...to anwser ya Q :D

First Mr Muscle (it is a strong oven cleaner...not so healthy to breath in) it kind of loosen up the "color" on the house..you have to use something to rubber it of, like a fine sanding paper for wet use, like 800-1200 grid..im using a 3M-sponge, to final adjust Autosol crome finish.

im hopning to do something today..im not sure..

[rcluke]

the motor and shocks look nice, i like shiny things :thumbsup:

A friend of mine, on another forum made his lunchbox brushless, and broke a front wheel, so BE CAREFUL.

wise move getting the spare shells

[Thomas P]

Front shocks,rims and tires are now monted, not glued...body is painted..real "Gansta look"...

[Thomas P]

http://www.sevenofnine.se/rsb/images/bbox_banner.jpg

:P Now it begins to look like a LB...It is SatinBlack color..im not done with the chassi..still some fix..

Enjoy

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030969.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030973.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030974.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030975.jpg

[Chris Green]

The braided sleeving on the sensor wire looks great. Where did you get it from?

[Thomas P]

from www.elfa.se

here is some update.

Almost done, will just get some 10w oil, and other springs...little to stiff in the rear..


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030981.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030982.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5030984.jpg

filmed with one hand, driven by the other.. :D


http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/?action=view&current=S5030978.flv

http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/?action=view&current=S5030983.flv

[moleman]

Thats soo cool Mr T!! :cool:

[Thomas P]

So, some "offroad" feeling...the car handels real good (but still sooooo bad :D)..the 3rd shockmod helped me to get the "klick" sound from rear axle to disappear .

this is one-hand-filmed movies...i "think" it handles pretty good for a LB..the power is so perfect!! my kinda style :P

Lite mera filmer från dagens bravader..enhands filmade.. fen den e perfekt i fart o kraft..o klarar vissa delar av bumpigheterna bra faktiskt..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRwlcLntEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VIDN2c88Tc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXnksRk7NZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0AIBVRQIs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1XpNslin24


Thanx Mr - M

[Thomas P]

Update

Some new rims and wheels...Prolines Trac-Ta-Gator on Traxxas lightwheel rims.. The grip is awsome. Hope to upload some movies..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5031058.jpg

some runs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OULTC8ULMck

[B&H Racing]

Thats looks fantastic :woot:

Would`nt like being that camera - how close :thumbsup:

[rocketrob]

Had one, way back in the day, and did a umbh of upgrading to it including shocks and motor, etc..........
.......and much like my initial stab at it, it appears you went for too much motor - I'd think a 10.5 would be perfect - and I'm curious why you didn't paint up one of the lexan bodies as they help with the top-heaviness of it tremendously.

good stuff though..........

[jimmy]

I brought my ole king blackfoot home - it's in a bit of a state but I was going to put lipo, brushless and proper servo in it, oh and lock up the rear diff with 'something'
What the chuff are those mega tyres? Do the rims just fit on the lunchbox? I guess there's a front (with bearings) and rear wheel? Any links to where you got these bad boys.

My blackfoot has I think a rounded cell tray which might make fitting a square lipo hard work, but I will see.

Awesome writeups Thomas, I wish I could read them all :(

[Thomas P]

Thank you all, the rims are Traxxas http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJ86&P=7 on tower rear ones..

This is the front ones.. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJJ87&P=7.

Here is the tires..the Proline Trac-Ta-Gator.. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDT93&P=7

BUT, BUT i dont like the Hornet adapters..they will make the threads to short on the rea axles, and ya hav not got enough to mount a nylock nut... so il use my HPI adapters..that come along with the "monster SS rims.. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM875&P=7

OBS: i do have plans to translate my whole blog in to Eng, that will take a time...

Some more Brushless action..

Nope, havnt glued my tires, almost un nessesary :D:D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGKFYp1i13Q

Updated the Blog, with one Swe side and one UK

The Lexan bodies is now beeing custom painted..stay tune :D

[Thomas P]

Some testing with stock tires...da*n so fun this car is..now it can slide..the Trac tires they do suck the car down, but this is real fun, wider and little more slippery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1hLVnLKXE

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5031100.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/BrushlessBox/S5031101.jpg

[jimmy]

You inspired me :thumbsup: I am currently building a brushless 3cell lipo Tamiya king blackfoot. I've had the truck for years but it was always a bit underpowered - just tested it with the Mamba Max and its a beast now!

I was going to put glue in the diff to lock it up - but when I looked at it I thought, nah! and filled it with screws instead! haha locked it up nicely.
I used some beadlock wheels on the back - which should keep the tyres on at 60mph or whatever it will get up to.

I'd like to put the bead lock wheels on the front as well (to keep the look) but they use a hex instead of bearings, so I need to try find a way to fit them (maybe adapt an axle on there)

The steering is a bit sloppy, I put a 14kg torque ACE servo in there, but the saver is rubbish and moves around a lot. There is also an incredible ammount of bump steer. Never mind.

It should be pretty mad when it's finished - I'll make sure to get some photos :)

[Thomas P]

Glad to hear that you are in da game Jimmy :D. That ACE servo is my favorite, that will hold for ages. Maybe HPI have some nice converters for those rims Jimmy, im not sure if they sold separately.

Pics is a must..maybe a short clip of that BEAST of yours :D:D

[jimmy]

If I get it in a reasonable looking state tonight I'll get a couple of pics, but it still needs a bit of work to make it nice. I want to move the ESC down into the guts of the chassis - and make some splash guards to protect it

I'm not too fussy about the beadlock wheels on the front - I painted the front wheels black to match the rear beadlocks. But any photos of what these HPI adaptors look like? I've done a search and can't see anything that might work.

[jimmy]

I should call mine 'project crap' or something. The truck looked very boring and beaten when I got it - also rusty... hmmm! So I painted the shell matt black, which made it look really quite nice, then I airbrushed rust all over it and oople logos (airbrushed not stickers).

The rear wheels are beadlocks and the front are satin black painted originals

This truck is still running on plastic bearings so I need to replace those before thinking about getting it running. it should be pretty mental :)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/blackfoot1.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/blackfoot2.jpg


These are Durga rear shocks all round btw

[bigbadad]

Fantastic stuff guys - any updates on this? Got my Lunchbox yesterday and itching to get on with it......:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Like it a lot Jimmy!!! looking real good!. Mine is sold ofr other projects since a whileago