New 2wd In Development?

[Nick Goodall]

Well if you believe what you read anyway!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumacher_Racing_Products

"Future
As of the past, times have recently changed in the RC world and 1/10th scale off-road has gained some popularity in parts of the world and Schumacher have started development on the new CAT. This has led to some excitement, with a few enthusiasts remembering the time in the past (mid 1980s to mid 1990s) when Schumacher was a dominant force in this class.
Schumacher also will continue with their successful touring car and fun car range.
The following are confirmed to be in development:

CAT SX (1/10th Scale 4WD Electric Buggy)The following are rumoured to be in development:

Mi3 Euro
Cat 2WD buggyThe CAT SX was seen at several BRCA National and Regional events in early 2005, but subsequently disappeared. However, Schumacher released a small amount of information on their website in January 2008, prior to the Nurnberg Toy Fair, at which they showed the CAT SX to selected media and distributors.
The Mi3 was seen with small developments throughout the 2007 winter season, such as lightweight bulkheads and a different shape top deck. Most other manufacturers will have new chassis or updates out for the 2008 Touring Car Euros and 2008 Worlds, so Schumacher are sure to follow.
The CAT 2WD buggy was announced in the previously mentioned CAT SX information."

[jimmy]

sounds like a bit of fibbery and misinformation to me. there's certainly no CAT SX in 2005 ! lol

[mole2k]

Was the 4k every actually raced in 2005, I thought they just released a few pictures of it and everybody commented on it being a parts bin special.

[ben]

Yeh i think simon moss ran it at some of the nationals

[glypo]

Wow that wikipedia article has changed loads since I first wrote it a few years ago. Anyway, the CAT 4000 was ran at the Euro's too I think, the feedback was a little less then positive I assume..........

Schumacher did say that they might consider 2WD depending on the success of the SX did they not? I doubt they will brand it as a CAT, that has been exclusively for 4WD models since the Topcat I think (Cougar, Cougar 2, Fireblade etc). An updated Cougar 2 would do me nicely, Cougar 3 please Schumacher...... :D

[Garry Driffill]

I was talking to one of the schey guys at round 7 of the schumacher series last weekend about a 2wd. He said there is somthing in the pipeline :woot:..

i didnt know his name although i will refare to him as the " Well Spoken Man " :)

[jimmy]

didn't the cat4000 win a national with Si Moss?

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/telford280805/bigimages/4wd27.jpg

[Mossy]

Won a leg of the A-final at Kiddy and finished 2nd to Neil at the 1st National that year, the photo above which i think was Telford I won a leg there as well. Never managed to convert it to a win.

[bondy]

Been telling Phil to come up with a FWD 2WD for years :thumbsup:

"An upto date Kyosho MaxxumFF":woot:

[Chrislong]

I bet they're getting there Snickers in a twist over the Cat4000 development and never finishing, then now the SX. Wonder where they got the information from, they may have asked Cecil himself? I mean, how many people know that Cecil invented the ball differential other than those that work with him and some of us, oh and his family.

[Northy]

I mean, how many people know that Cecil invented the ball differential other than those that work with him and some of us, oh and his family.

And everyone who saw his interview on motors tv....... :lol:

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[glypo]

And anyone that read the wikipedia page, or the information page on the Schumacher website, or anyone that's been in RC long enough..

Is anyone else confused by Chris's post? Sounds like a rant but I can't figure out about what.

[Northy]

Don't worry, Chris is special :lol:

I'll not sit on the fence, I think it's either a rant or it's not.

G

[Chrislong]

:lol: no it wasn't a rant. What I meant is that to know Cecil did the ball differential then you'd have an interest in ... ball differentials or Cecil. So yeh, I would expect you guys to know, as you do, but I wouldn't expect some random Joe to know.... so what I was getting at, is average Joe must have researched well to find out about the ball differential to include in Wikky, and so perhaps the 2wd comment is true, and the development of the SX did start at the 4000? or perhaps it did in 'boardroom/director talk' (whereas in reality its a million miles away and the talk of continuation of that development was just to keep the bank & investors happy)

I didn't watch the TV program, its not exactly erm, Family Guy is it :lol:, and without anyone linking to Wikky, then i wouldn't have read that either. :p

I'll get my coat, im confusing myself.

[bigred5765]

do a pole chris
did you know lol ??
o buy the way i already new from way back when

[Lee]

Yeah i knew as well, but if i hadnt of known then i would of known now, thanks chris:thumbsup:

[terry.sc]

And everyone who saw his interview on motors tv....... :lol:

G...and just about everybody who raced before 1990.:lol:

Remember the article is on Wikipedia, never accept anything on there as reliable as just about anyone can write and edit it - I've changed a couple of errors in the Schumacher entry in the past and any of us can add to it, or correct any mistakes, or add any rumours we want, in fact just corrected the SX in 2005 line to CAT 4000 myself.

No random Joes are attached to Wikipedia to research the subject then create the wikis, they are written by anyone with an interest in it already.

[glypo]

Ah yes, I see what you are saying now Chris.

But nope. I wrote the original wiki on Schumacher a few years ago (asking Robin Schumacher to check facts along the way), and I put in about Cecil making the ball diff, and development of the CAT 4000. However it's since been modified multiple times by all sorts of random folk so I'm not sure we can count good ol' wikipedia as a trusted source source on the 2wd buggy.

I really hope it's coming though :)

[antnee]

Didn't someone say a 2wd was been tested one saturday at worksop, while track was being set-up??

[jimmy]

That was the SX

[stegger]

I heard today at southport that there's a 2wd car is in development, but i think it was more tongue in cheek:woot:

[GPS1]

I was taking to Phil Booth at Kidderminster the other weekend (Not racing just popped down to have a look!) about the new 4WD CAT SX. Mentioned that I was back racing this year and that I had gone BJ4 & B4.
I was a fully backed Schumacher driver back in the day (10 years ago now!), which is how I know Phil, and would of used their cars again but for the fact that they didnt manufacture one!! Said I would look at the SX for a new 4WD but obviously would have to stick with the B4 in 2WD!!
At which point Phil started to discuss their new 2WD (Un-named as yet) which they're working on!! Will be out later this year and will NOT be another B4 rip-off, in Phil's words!! It will have in board motor/gearbox like the X6!

[Lee]

Wow, that is very good news, schuey is taking this off road lark very seriously again.:D

This can only be good for the class:thumbsup:

After seeing mossy running the CAT at kiddy the other week it looked awesome on the track and probably the quickest car out there at times. Hopefully he can carry on at Oz.

[Northy]

How many belts/cogs/pulleys will the 2wd have :woot:

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[elvo]

How many belts/cogs/pulleys will the 2wd have :woot:

G


I know how many gears it will have! :D

[ashleyb4]

5??:confused::confused:

A

[stegger]

Wow, that is very good news, schuey is taking this off road lark very seriously again.:D

This can only be good for the class:thumbsup:

After seeing mossy running the CAT at kiddy the other week it looked awesome on the track and probably the quickest car out there at times. Hopefully he can carry on at Oz.

It was pretty quick around southport yesterday:drool: and it looked really good over the bumps on the back of the curcuit:thumbsup:
They were using prototype shocks with the bladders removed;)
I could see this all the way from the other side of the track:woot::woot:
Mossy was also using a speedpassion BL setup which had a modified brake profile

[Robbiejuk]

At which point Phil started to discuss their new 2WD (Un-named as yet) which they're working on!! Will be out later this year and will NOT be another B4 rip-off, in Phil's words!! It will have in board motor/gearbox like the X6!

Fabixx cougar 2000 then :thumbsup:

[bondy]

ill keep saying it In board mounted motor and gear box at the front for FWD 2WD !!!!! Cool ! :lol:

[Belsten]

Fabixx cougar 2000 then :thumbsup:


That was an awesome bit of kit, came complete with some wooden bit at the front end if I remember right :woot:

[wrighty]

We were turning the tranny round on the couger 2 many years ago i remember william mitcham running it at bury buggy club so turning the tranny round to make it mid mount isnt a new idea

[DCM]

That was an awesome bit of kit, came complete with some wooden bit at the front end if I remember right :woot:

he didn't sell many when Mad Mike would show people his car... shell off... spaghetti on show lol