SV2 Setup Thread

[gainsy]

Stick all your SV2 setup's in here

[losi100]

Where find Simon Moss SV2 set up at Stotfold????

[Mossy]

Stotfold Setup attached guys.

Si

[Martyn (Bomber)]

Si or Tom, are you guys removing the plastic spacer from underneath the rear camber plate and then adding shims in its place or are you running the plastic spacer and shims together under the plate ???

I've noticed a few people that are not sure on this, when looking on the setup sheets the plastic spacer is highlighted but we are not sure if that means replaced or added too with shims.

Thanks

[Mossy]

I dont run the plastic washer, so the shims are only under the rear ball stud. Not sure what Tom does tho.

Si

[Martyn (Bomber)]

I dont run the plastic washer, so the shims are only under the rear ball stud. Not sure what Tom does tho.

Si

Great, thanks Si:thumbsup:

[MHeadling]

On behalf of a mate, any one got Simon Moss set up from Silverstone club??

[Mossy]

I will try and post it tomoro, only have it on my ipad at the min and dont have a photobucket account.

Si

[spud31]

ok thanks si

[jonathan may]

any setups for oswestry thanks

[DCM]

Any chance of a grass setup please?

[jonathan may]

thats what i am after

[matdodd]

I cant attach a setup sheet but pm me and ill send you one
Mat

[spud31]

EPR or base astro setup please

[spud31]

indoor big or small bore setup please

[Mossy]

Setup from yesterday's Silverstone Winter Series, indoors on Astro/Carpet.

Si

[mutoid]

Any chance of some of the set-ups used at this saturdays(18jan) West Bridgford event if possible please by the team?

Thanks.

[buggy#0]

Southport setup here: http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumacher/SetupSheetsSchumacherCougarSV2.html

[Cockerill]

Heres my setup from Kidderminster yesterday:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumacher/setupcougarsv2/CougarSV2_TomCockerill_Kidderminster20130317/

The car was very good by the end of the day and I'm sure I'll start with something similar at the national

[steel]

Any of the team have a set up for southport outdoors using bigbores as i need a starting point somewhere near that works already

Cheers
Mark

[Mossy]

I ran my stotfold setup at the top of this thread at southport on Sunday. Mine was pretty good.

Si

[Mossy]

I ran my stotfold setup at the top of this thread at southport on Sunday. Mine was pretty good.

Si

[steel]

Thanks si

1 more question were did you put the weight you added

Mark

[Mr Satchell]

Hi. Has anybody got a setup for grass

[losichris]

Hi. Has anybody got a setup for grass

Leon, try the simon moss oswestry national setup on Petit rc

[madmulc]

Hi,

I'm after a setup for oswestry.

cheers

[Juicy74]

Are there any spare ballstuds in the sv2 kit? I just got mine and while assembling, realised that one of the ballstuds in step10 package is unthreaded.

[PaulRotheram]

Afraid not, contact schumacher with a picture of the ball stud and they will get you a few sent out; their customer service is spot on!

[Juicy74]

Would you believe it? Moving on through the build, I come to the turnbuckle for the chassis top plate and realised that the ball end/cup won't bite n screw in. So I put my nail on the thread and turn the turnbuckle and my nail stayed at the same place! The threads are just circles around the shaft. It doesn't corkscrew!

This is becoming such a disappointing buy. I have always looked at Schumacher as a premium brand and when I could actually afford one and finally purchased a kit, I find these QC issues. *sigh* Not something I would expect of Schumacher. Other brands, yes... Definately not Schumacher.

[N7ELA]

Would you believe it? Moving on through the build, I come to the turnbuckle for the chassis top plate and realised that the ball end/cup won't bite n screw in. So I put my nail on the thread and turn the turnbuckle and my nail stayed at the same place! The threads are just circles around the shaft. It doesn't corkscrew!

This is becoming such a disappointing buy. I have always looked at Schumacher as a premium brand and when I could actually afford one and finally purchased a kit, I find these QC issues. *sigh* Not something I would expect of Schumacher. Other brands, yes... Definately not Schumacher.

Contact them with your issue, they have excellent customer service and are always happy to sort any problems quickly.

[CARB]

I have some questions as to the sv2.how come you buy a car and in the standard set up and with out any speed secret parts it is junk on Astro compared to the Durango dex210 as out of the box.

I have tried all the different set ups brought the tuning parts and the trish weights and it still is not a patch on the Durango.

The only way I can get it to work is to run is with the epoxy chassis with out any of the body supports or the front pin in place, in this flexible set up the car works.

but out of the box it does not work for me or several other drivers that I know have had SV cars

[chrispattinson]

I have some questions as to the sv2.how come you buy a car and in the standard set up and with out any speed secret parts it is junk on Astro compared to the Durango dex210 as out of the box.

I have tried all the different set ups brought the tuning parts and the trish weights and it still is not a patch on the Durango.

The only way I can get it to work is to run is with the epoxy chassis with out any of the body supports or the front pin in place, in this flexible set up the car works.

but out of the box it does not work for me or several other drivers that I know have had SV cars

Sorry to hear the SV2 isn't handling right for you.
When I first got my SV2, I was running the kit setup (admittedly on a carpet track not astroturf) and was way ahead of the 210s in our winter championship, only trailing Andy Pearson's very quick RB6.

For setups, there are a lot of setup sheets here, many of which for astroturf:
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumacher/SetupSheetsSchumacherCougarSV2.html

In order to get the setup perfect you may need a few option parts, but this is common with all brands. You should, however, be able to get very close with the contents from your kit.

Which track do you race at?

[CARB]

hi thank you for the reply,
I started with the 210 and in low to high grip conditions on Astro it works, as it is out of the box, I guess the 210 is very consistent in most conditions where the SV is prone to grip changes.

the best way I can describe the SV is that it does not flow through the turns where the 210 does, it also tends to flip over when landing a jump where the 210 does not.

I have tested the two cars back to back same motor speedo set ups on the same day, the fact that there are so many set ups does point to the car being very critical on circuit conditions. and for a ace then this ok, but for the average club guy I think it is hard work and surly do Schumacher not want a product that works for a new driver that is paying for his kit, where I feel most of the guys thar are successful with the car are sponsored.

what Schumacher should do is give the car to a driver with some experience but not an ace and get it to handle like a 210 for instance.

I am really pro Schumacher as it is a uk company and wanted to fly the flag for the uk instead of a overseas country which in modelling not often an option

I drive at worm

[N7ELA]

hi thank you for the reply,
I started with the 210 and in low to high grip conditions on Astro it works, as it is out of the box, I guess the 210 is very consistent in most conditions where the SV is prone to grip changes.

the best way I can describe the SV is that it does not flow through the turns where the 210 does, it also tends to flip over when landing a jump where the 210 does not.

I have tested the two cars back to back same motor speedo set ups on the same day, the fact that there are so many set ups does point to the car being very critical on circuit conditions. and for a ace then this ok, but for the average club guy I think it is hard work and surly do Schumacher not want a product that works for a new driver that is paying for his kit, where I feel most of the guys thar are successful with the car are sponsored.

what Schumacher should do is give the car to a driver with some experience but not an ace and get it to handle like a 210 for instance.

I am really pro Schumacher as it is a uk company and wanted to fly the flag for the uk instead of a overseas country which in modelling not often an option

I drive at worm

I would disagree with your guesses and suggest you have some fundamental problem with your SV2 in the setup stage.

In the last 2 years I have ran a B4, X6 squared, a B4.1, a C4.1 and an SV2.

All of these cars drive differently and they all need surprisingly different setups on the same track.

Out of the box with no modifications I found the SV2 to be streets ahead of other cars. On astro it's awesome as std compared to the B4.1 and C4.1.

I only purchased the S1 chassis to run at my local club which is like running on ice at times.

As for Durango 210's our club and region has many good drivers and a couple of them have Durangos. They don't go any better than the SV2's or other cars for that matter.

Post your setup so we can have a look.

[CARB]

hi
thanks for the reply, perhaps I could invite you to worm for a test session.
as per set up I have gone back to the manual set up exactly and am trying this now.

[chrispattinson]

I'm afraid a 6 hour drive to WORM is a little far for me. Let us know how the car goes.

[AfroP]

I also think its down to the car and the driver. some people like certain cars and can get them to work, where others just cant.
I have a 210 and am giving serious thought to getting rid in favour of something else. the SV2 being one of the options thats high on my list
reason being that its designed to run in the UK on the UK tracks, they have superb customer service and I have great trackside support from a good bunch of team drivers who race at my local club.

[CARB]

hi
well I have had some good success yesterday, I have put the car back to standard as per the build manual.

no tuning parts, weights, different shocks or any thing, so after testing the car was ok but still not flowing through the turns, so I decided to modify the top carbon deck and the the battery plate.

I have opened up the four 5.5 mm holes to 6 mm and cut the battery plate and spacer in half length ways along the axis of the chassis.

now the chassis has a small amount of flex and what a difference it has made, I had another driver try the car some one of lots of experience and drivers a RB6 his report was almost perfect for him.

Settings of note ride height 24 mm front and rear, shock oils 450 core front and rear 25 degree hubs 4 degree toe in, front chamber -1 rear chamber -2.5
everything else as per the manual.

trying the car today again as the track is now dry, yesterday it was damp to wet.

[CARB]

driving the sv2 today in dry conditions has now proved the set up works in wet and dry conditions, an added improvement is to use the emulsion shock tops so that the piston is pushed out.

this helps with the bottoming on landing and allows a lower ride height, with the speed passion 6.5 turn motor the performance is very good.

A fellow driver with a sv2 in standard set up drove my car and was impressed so a back to back test was done swapping cars several times to compare the difference and mine was always quicker in either hands.

the mods to the othervcar was done and on better tyres my friends car was even better than mine.

I anyone wants any more info get in touch

[l0p3d0g]

Would you believe it? Moving on through the build, I come to the turnbuckle for the chassis top plate and realised that the ball end/cup won't bite n screw in. So I put my nail on the thread and turn the turnbuckle and my nail stayed at the same place! The threads are just circles around the shaft. It doesn't corkscrew!

This is becoming such a disappointing buy. I have always looked at Schumacher as a premium brand and when I could actually afford one and finally purchased a kit, I find these QC issues. *sigh* Not something I would expect of Schumacher. Other brands, yes... Definately not Schumacher.

Mine is exactly the same!

[Juicy74]

Mine is exactly the same!

Sorry to hear you had the same issues. I emailed them like some of the guys here have suggested. The reply was fast and they said they would ship the parts out to me right away. Hope I get them soon cause I'm all the way in asia and I think it to take a week or so.

It was just really annoying how I have to put a hold on the build until the parts come in when I could have completed everything in a day. I guess I'm just impatient.

[scooterboy]

I've noticed the team drivers are running a different top deck and not using the turnbuckle, what is the advantage of this and what are the part numbers?

[CARB]

the moulding is for the stick pack on the old SV, it is to create more flex in the chassis.

I tried it, not much better, try removing the rear two top deck posts and stick with the turn buckle, or do what I have done, which works for me and a couple of other guys with the SV2.

details on page two also make sure you at least 50% rebound in the dampers to.

Neale

[Mossy]

I still run the standard top deck and turnbuckle. I only use the middle 2 posts tho, not the rear ones.

Si

[arransmith27]

I still run the standard top deck and turnbuckle. I only use the middle 2 posts tho, not the rear ones.

Si

Do you screw the top deck down or use body clips?

[scooterboy]

Do you screw the top deck down or use body clips?

+1 :confused:

[CARB]

the question is, are Schumacher going to release a two wheel drive buggy that has all the parts that work on Astro out of the box instead of having to leave parts off or buy new shocks etc. ?

[johnboy]

the question is, are Schumacher going to release a two wheel drive buggy that has all the parts that work on Astro out of the box instead of having to leave parts off or buy new shocks etc. ?

What parts have you had to buy??

[paulc]

the question is, are Schumacher going to release a two wheel drive buggy that has all the parts that work on Astro out of the box instead of having to leave parts off or buy new shocks etc. ?

Why Would you need to buy new shocks the ones that come in the kit are fine

[CARB]

I was wrong regarding setting up the SV2, after reading most of the info for the SV2 I went back to the base set up.

Doing this I then started to just work on the damper settings and after a while I got the a setting that started to work fo me.

This is with every thing as the kit just changing the damper oils, front and rear chambers, and ride heights.

So I have a car that handles jumps, turns well through tight and long fast turns, and what kept me working on the car is the accuracy of steering and the ease of access to every thing, such as taking the diif out is done in so quickly.

regards

Neale

[scooterboy]

Do you screw the top deck down or use body clips?

Anyone??:eh?::eh?:

[Mossy]

Body clips

[CARB]

hi
I have been doing some testing at worm with my SV2 and have found that adding the full weight kit from Trish improves the handling over a ver fast down hill part of the circuit that with out the weights tends to through the car off line and ca only be driven at a reduced throttle.

The other item I have been working on ias the aero set up and found the bull dog Proline shell works much better then either of the Schumacher shells, test results show better and more consistent lap times.

The forward cab Schumacher body shell seemed to actuall develop lift as on the down hill section is was more prone to lift the front end of the car.

So check out the Trish weight set and the Proline Bull dog shell, the shell is much narrower and comes with a new under tray and rear wing, the new under tray is supplied as the body shell is the exact width of the chassis.

regards

Carb

[Juicy74]

I am trying to use a hex adapter for the rear but not sure which ones work. I have tried using the j concept rear ones without the purple spacer n its still a touch wide. I tried j concept fronts with the purple spacer n its definately too wide. Anyone got the right ones?

Also how should i gear the car with a 13.5 or 17.5 motor hoping to run blinky.

Thanks guys.

[madmulc]

I think the schumacher hex that comes with the sx3 and k1 should fit.

U3381

I Hope this helps



I am trying to use a hex adapter for the rear but not sure which ones work. I have tried using the j concept rear ones without the purple spacer n its still a touch wide. I tried j concept fronts with the purple spacer n its definately too wide. Anyone got the right ones?

Also how should i gear the car with a 13.5 or 17.5 motor hoping to run blinky.

Thanks guys.

[Juicy74]

I think the schumacher hex that comes with the sx3 and k1 should fit.

U3381

I Hope this helps

Thanks. I used the original conical spacer and just used a jconcepts hex adapter. Works well so far.

[Jayk]

Got a pre assembled sv2 never ran before, only adjusted ride height fitted a 7.5 sp motor, esc had 10% drag nothing else set any different than when it was in a b4, roll bar left on.
All i did was tighten a few lose screws.


My question is why would it do a 360 degree spin when turning with or without throttle either fast or slow ?


After first run i removed drag brake and set the slipper and diff properly, i added longer ball cups to rear shocks as it drooped too much and set the shocks in one hole.
I know its a lot to do without knowing whats causing it but checking what other ppl's setups are like it seems this is common to do this.
Also i think the diff and slipper were wound up a bit tight as niether hardly gave when locking pinion and turning one wheel while holding the other.
This along with the motor having a natural drag effect i think is causing it.

Will be testing it on polished floor soon so hopefully it will run.
Anyone experienced this buggy being impossible to drive like this ??

[Juicy74]

Is your car sorted?

[Jayk]

Dunno missed last couple of chances to test it, gotta wait till friday night now.
.....hopefully !

[Juicy74]

Ok keep us posted. I'm curious what couldve caused it to react like that.

[Jayk]

Fixed.

With some advice, removed 6 spacers on back which affects anti squat and new minipins, also small plastic plate part number u4049 removed.
This was a factory assembled kit just needed experience to put it right :thumbsup:

[housecat777@gmail.com]

Has anyone got a setup for telford model car club please?

[pdr1975]

hi there, anyone out there go a set up sheet for an sv2 on grass and indoor carpet.

cheers:):)