My new S2...

[Thomas P]

And it arrived today...:drool:...Jonathan @AC, thank you so much, the kit looks even more better IRL then the pics..

one word :p for this one..

Pics on the build progress will come up..i hope that i will hav etime this weekend.. just began to 1200grid sanding the CF edges...will use CA and more 1200..then finish it up with Autosol polish..will makem real crispy and fresh :thumbsup:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_09G2RKcaPXM/R_PDoVdrQ7I/AAAAAAAAAVs/0AZMhNUqc2w/s200/S5031001.JPG

[Thomas P]

one thing, i just "testmounted" the trannybox "empty" on the chassi, it seems it does not "sunk" in the hole..i mean, it have a gap on 1mm or less between the tranny and chassi where the screws will be attached to hold the tranny in place, is the hole ment to be sanded down a little bit to get it down on chassi?

EDIT it was a little "left over" on the trnny side, that i missed, SO sorry!!, there aint NO problem, it is 100% fit..it is

[freud]

Ohhhhh Thomas Very Nice :woot::woot::wub:wub

Congratulation !!!!!!!!!!!



''Jonathan Ware is mine'' :drool::drool:

[Body Paint]

It shouldn't need trimming/filing, mine went straight in. I've not heard of the other 3 kits I know the owners of having problems either.

Are you 100% sure the tranny is together fully? May I suggest building the tranny up and screwing the motorplate etc on then have another look at how it fits. If you've still got troubles maybe you could take some measurements the hole and box bottom and I'll check everything is correct.

[Thomas P]

Wee, it was only a "left over" :D:D.. if i sometimes could OPEN my eyes..im so sorry that i ever doubted on you guys..

My misstake..

Goal for today:

Do the edges..
Mount tranny together
New rear/front arms
i will use a fanless TSPEC, il see if i can do something nice with the cables :P have an idea :D

[Thomas P]

Any updates Craig on loose, bumpy track setups yet ?.. and, the best a setup for astroturf..the biggest race in Sweden this year will be @my homeclub..astroturf..mjummie, S2 luuuv it :)

[elvo]

Any updates Craig on loose, bumpy track setups yet ?.. :)

My set-up from the euroindoorrace is on here somewhere.... if you can't find it, pm me.

[Garry Driffill]

Is the S2 now in production ? :)

[Lee]

I was wondering this as well or are these people just special?:confused:

[moleman]

For what I know Thomas isnt special, he just pre-ordered the car several months ago..

[AndyM]

Thomas isnt special,

LOL, that made me laff :)

but i was wondering the same thing :confused:

[Lee]

I have just emailed jonathan, i will give you the official word when i get an answer:thumbsup:

[strobe]

I think Jonathan is working his way down the pre order list.

[jimmy]

I have to say this car looks awesome - it's only when you get that yummy carbon tub in your hands that it hits home though. I'm starting to need one :lol:

[Lee]

As promised:

The S2's you see people receiveing are pre-orders which i have now starting to deliver.

Due to the process used to make a moulded carbon fibre chassis, its not possible
to make the chassis in bulk. So i expect demand to be higher than what i can produce
at least for the next few months.


Thomas isn`t special either:thumbsup:




























I might of added the last little bit:lol:

[moleman]

LOL, that made me laff :)

but i was wondering the same thing :confused:


Yeah, my english might not be the best.. :blush:
Ill give you that one for free!
Or as I would say in swedish: "Den bjur ja på!!" :lol:

[Thomas P]

Nope, just a regular nobody :D...i hope that i can do something this evening. Need to move on to next work..the edges is dry anyway,so some more sanding is necessary then il begin with the Tranny =). i will leave my bodys for some custom paint il hope today

/Thomas P

[freud]

2 Week and my S2 are at home :drool::thumbsup:

[David Church]

I am special!!!:p I have both of my new cars:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

I am special!!!:p I have both of my new cars:thumbsup:

cant i be little special :p i have the 2 cars to :lol:

[David Church]

cant i be little special :p i have the 2 cars to :lol:


If you have these sweet cars you are very privileged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Yep i suppose so :D some short update..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031021.jpg
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[rcracer]

i want one :cry:

[OldTimer]

Have you been polishing the chassis Thomas :lol:

[ben]

i want one :cry:


hehe neil i have one sat looking at me right now lol...... just to make ya feel better:woot:

[rcracer]

hehe neil i have one sat looking at me right now lol...... just to make ya feel better:woot:

Does yours have eyes :confused:

[Thomas P]

Have you been polishing the chassis Thomas :lol:

oh yes :thumbsup:..the kit is outstanding!!..i will dissmount it later, to do the last plising, this is most a test mount to see my layout later..left is shocktower, that one need some care :D

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031023.jpg
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[Lee]

Its a credit to jonathan really, the quality of his work and parts make the donor parts look cheap:lol:


Excellent work boys, the car looks amazing and i cant wait to have a play with one:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Short update... Note: this is just a test wing...

I like the car very much, i will run 5 cell combo on this on to..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031026.jpg
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Since i do not have any "start" setup yet, i will wait with the dampers..

[Garry Driffill]

That looks fantastic ! - i NEED one :woot:

[ben]

Very nice tom. Looks b e a utiful :woot::thumbsup:

[franki]

That looks cool!!!!!!!!! :-)

[franki]

Very nice tom. Looks b e a utiful :woot::thumbsup:

Come on Ben find somthing wrong like you do with the pred!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup: LOL

[ben]

nahhh dont want to get told off again by paul lol. Whats wrong with the S2...... haha:woot:

[Lee]

Yellow wheels:thumbdown::lol:


Luckily not brown like the preds tho:thumbsup::lol:

[ben]

haha lee:thumbsup:

[phil c]

That looks fantastic ! - i NEED one :woot:
you had one dumb ass and got rid WHY??????:confused:

[ben]

lol phil you have just answered your own question "you had one 'dumb ass' "

ben

[phil c]

lol phil you have just answered your own question "you had one 'dumb ass' "

benHOW TRUE :lol:

[Belsten]

The S2 looks awesome, fair play JC you have done a great job. It sure is tempting :drool::drool::drool: Looks awesome round the track too

[Thomas P]

Cant mount the rear shocks at all...the upper adj turnb will BIND the shock and arm..i tested a shim app 3 mm, way to short, still binding heavy..i think il need much longer stuff, but that means buying some stuff over this kit..looked att Matts S2 and i ca see some blue stuff that will put the ballend longer away form the tower...

mja, dont know now about this...

[Thomas P]

Tried to skip my Lunsford mounts, but still no good..i need some serious long ballstuds on the tower to get the rear upp arm more 90 degres toward tower..like it is now, i will destroy my shocks and the car wont run a meter...

[Thomas P]

Even mowed the ballstuds to the inner hole, it turned out to be better, IF i using the 4 mm shim on ball stud..the problem is on the Slipper side, the ballend cant "come on the stud", to narrow to the motor mount plate.. (if i use the puter hole, will "bind" the arm when it touches the damper..

Maybe im doing everything wrong, but im kind of handy :)..right now, i wont finsih this car, thats for sure :S

[Mike Hudson]

put a pic up of the shocks fitted, might give an insight to us

[sparrow.2]

Here is a thread with some pics from elvos car from the euro indoor race in Lahon.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8340&highlight=euro+indoor

Looks like he turned the shock bushings around and used thin nuts on the end towards the tower. On top of that he's got spacers on the ball end in the tower and some at the bottom of the shocks.

Maybe you won't be able to use the Lunsford parts...

Car looks great :thumbsup:

Edit: A quick and ugly fix would be to space the shock tower further back... Ugly but works...

[elvo]

Here is a thread with some pics from elvos car from the euro indoor race in Lahon.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8340&highlight=euro+indoor

Looks like he turned the shock bushings around and used thin nuts on the end towards the tower. On top of that he's got spacers on the ball end in the tower and some at the bottom of the shocks.



Yes, I've put a 3mm blue washer behind the inner ball stud and the tower, and the hubs,... ... might be reversed. Can't remember off the top of my head, but anyway, on my car it's the same as in the CAD drawings - which should, ideally, be in the online manual Jonathan is editing. oh - and be sure to use a tall (high) ballstud on the tower, and a short neck (the black one that is in the hubs on a STD B4) on the hubs for max clearance.

Shock bushings are also the other way around from 'normal'. Blue spacers on the bottom of the shocks are optional, you only really need these if you're using AE shocks and you tighten the hell out of the top shock bushing like me.

[Thomas P]

turnbuckles go thru spring, and touches the house of the damper when it goes up (compressed)

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031059.jpg
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Dremeld down the losi bushings for the shocks so the Lunsford works, it is real "tiny" against the tower..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031061.jpg

Spacer on the Arm, to get the shock further away from T-buckle..and only running ap 3mm spacer on the ballstud, longer and i cant use it on the inner hole..it will be worse if i use the outer hole... the angle will be "harder"

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031062.jpg

app 12-15mm ballstud would do the trick. but the longest i can found is 3/8 (10.X mm but then i cant use the inner hole on the Tower...

How about flipp the rear arms, are the wheelbase getting real of then?

Edit

I have dismounted the Lunsford, and mounted the Losi shocl"bushings" on the bolddirekt against the tower, and STILL no good..it will still Bind up..

To flip the rear arms like the S4, will solve the problem , but as i think, the handling will be very diffrent?..however, i dont think i will move on untill a solution is here..to bad, i luv the car,the quality everything, but a thing like this can get me to se Red.

if ya have a good soloution on this one, let me konw.

/Thomas P

[SHY]

Try to take away the Lunsford mounts and place the top of the shock closer to the tower... the body of the shock is under the tower right?

Edit: I see you beat me to it :lol:

It now looks as shimming back the whole tower is the solution. At least that would be a solid solution. Shimming the camber link would be risky...

What you also could try is to interchange the left and rear hub, and mount the camber links on the other side. It will be at a slight angle though but not that much I think... (the rear arms are also angled/toed)

What does the manual say about the hubs?

[Lee]

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it:thumbsup:

[Mike Hudson]

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it:thumbsup:
Thats whats done on the X6 :thumbsup: if it doesn't work would rayspeed hubs help?

[Thomas P]

Well i have to PM Jonathan on AC on this one..

[Thomas P]

Have you tried flipping the rear hubs left to right and mounting the camber link on the other side of it:thumbsup:

What affect have this on the cars handling ?

[Thomas P]

Is this the way the car should be built in? However, now it works, but it feels "wrong".

How does it affect on the cars handling to flip the rear hubs and then mount the C-linf on the other side?

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[elvo]

What affect have this on the cars handling ?


Nothing.

It gives way more space for the shocks, but you can't use hole 'C' in the hub. Then you'd need the tall ballstud in the hub and the black one on the tower.

[SHY]

Nothing.

It gives way more space for the shocks, but you can't use hole 'C' in the hub. Then you'd need the tall ballstud in the hub and the black one on the tower.

That's quite an angle. But don't worry! Dr. Elvo is ALWAYS right... it's almost a bit annoying :lol:

Elvo, how about mounting the shocks upside down? Might give some more space... and a much lower COG! PLUS, the shafts would be better protected from dust...

[elvo]

Elvo, how about mounting the shocks upside down? Might give some more space... and a much lower COG! PLUS, the shafts would be better protected from dust...


Doesn't work well with emulsion shocks :(

[SHY]

Doesn't work well with emulsion shocks :(

How are they different from the SMP shocks?

[Thomas P]

Ok, now im a lot more happier..was so close to throw in the tovel...

Thank you so much for this help....

[elvo]

How are they different from the SMP shocks?


To begin with, the shafts are not hollow :-D

Emulsion shocks = anything without bladders or closed-cell foam.

[Lee]

Yes thomas, it will not affect the handling, the wheel base will stay the same and everything.

Hope this works for you:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Lee,Elvo thank you sooooo much for the Help..i was as i said, so close to re send it back to AC..but i cant realy do that :D...

Dont mind the springs they are just for the looks, i will mount som new rear and front arms + C-hub and rear hubs to get less mesh...this looks real good, i have some "high neck" studs so i can use every hole if i want to...again THANK YOU!!!!!

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[OldTimer]

Thomas, this is how you mount the shocks, as most people use losi shocks i assumed they would use the Losi shock bushing ;)

If you follow the build guide and use the 3mm spacers which are in the kit, and mount the hub carriers also as per the build guide then you will be ok.

The alternative is to use a shock bottom and ball, and use a long screw rather than a ball stud.

[Thomas P]

Do i feel like a donkey :S...now i do understand..so sorry if i ever doubted on you mr J...hovever, im so glad the car is done, and it is ACE...feels like ive been her before...well well, thanks for the support !!

[OldTimer]

Another option is to use the rayspeed or racers edge hubs which have a vertical mount in the center of the hub for the ball stud ;)

[sparrow.2]

Elvo, how about mounting the shocks upside down? Might give some more space... and a much lower COG! PLUS, the shafts would be better protected from dust...

Sorry to hijack the thread a little but I always thought that mounting shocks upside down would give rather bad suspension properties due to the higher unsprung mass. It would be like putting weights on the wishbones. This would theoretically make the whole suspension system react slower and outweigh the advantage you would have due to the lower C of G...

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thomas, your car looks the dogs bollocks by the way!!! :thumbsup:

[SHY]

To begin with, the shafts are not hollow :-D

Emulsion shocks = anything without bladders or closed-cell foam.

@Elvo: LOL! :-D Ooooh! That was a nasty surprise! Osvaldo, if you ever learn english and read this... I will never forgive you for that! :-@ But really, they didn't have a bladder or foam. But one soft and one hard O-ring under the piston, remember? I think the AE 1:12 shock is similar as to volume compensation. Did you ever test this?

@Sparrow: I never heard that argument before, so I dunno. But I raced a 1:8 TR car with that for some years and it worked very well!

[David Church]

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8813/img1868fr7.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1868fr7.jpg)

Here is a pic of my beautiful new cars!!!:thumbsup:

[ben]

Lookin gurd DC:thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Dave, the cars of yours looking Super!!:thumbsup:

Thats the + to have the cars from same manufacture AC :p.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031071.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031070.jpg

[Lee]

This thread is just like a sea of carbon :woot:


Lovin those cars DC, nice install too:thumbsup:

[tony12795]

http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00172ci7.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00173uv6.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00174js7.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00175po7.jpg

Body shell and wing are not painted yet. I have to say the easyest car I have built. Well done AC!!!!:thumbsup:

Tony

[ttboyy2k]

Has anyone tried the hard case saddle pack lipo batteries in the S2? If so, how do they fit and do you need to add lead weight to the car to get it to handle properly?

[David Church]

This thread is just like a sea of carbon :woot:


Lovin those cars DC, nice install too:thumbsup:


Cheers dude!!!!

[SHY]

http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00172ci7.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00173uv6.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00174js7.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00175po7.jpg

Body shell and wing are not painted yet. I have to say the easyest car I have built. Well done AC!!!!:thumbsup:

Tony

Sweet! What's that heatsink by the motor/plate? (part no)

Gold LiPos would look übercool!

[Thomas P]

The car is done, (ok, the rear hubs will be new)... The Lid will come this Week, with 2 wings. The Losi Invader for the xxx4 fits real good.

Like i said before many times, the kit is super, makes the most other kits to fade away easy..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031073.jpg

[tony12795]

Sweet! What's that heatsink by the motor/plate? (part no)

Gold LiPos would look übercool!

I can not remember. I think its a K-Factory part.

The only thing is the body shell is being sprayed and I am not to sure if the heat sink will fit :confused:

T

[Body Paint]

I can not remember. I think its a K-Factory part.

The only thing is the body shell is being sprayed and I am not to sure if the heat sink will fit :confused:

T

Should be fine mate, the roof scoop should suck air straight onto the fins :thumbsup:

[matdodd]

You better hadnt scratch my shell :mad: :)

[strobe]

Nor Mine:mad::)

[tony12795]

You better hadnt scratch my shell :mad: :)

Oops sorry mate, scraches everywere but that was not my driving. Stan is an animal. He DID me about five times in the first few laps.

I seem to remember when Stan came back racing last year I did the same to him at Oz!!!!

[Kopite]

Oops sorry mate, scraches everywere but that was not my driving. Stan is an animal. He DID me about five times in the first few laps.

I seem to remember when Stan came back racing last year I did the same to him at Oz!!!!


I LOVE IT :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[andy05]

I LOVE IT :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
We know you love it

[matdodd]

Thats ok Tony keep it! ill just have yours from Robs :thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

So, followed Jonathan´s tip, and did the installation by the book. I flipped the rear hubs back to its normal, and no i have plenty of room.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031086.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031089.jpg

[Thomas P]

Done...

The S2 and the S4 for 2008 and 2009 season... Shrouded with - LRP TC SPEC x 2 - Spectrum Micro X 2 - Ko 2413 x 2 - 2wd:5.5LRP - 4wd:4.5LRP sintred

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031114.jpg
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[OldTimer]

Both look very nice Thomas, I like the S2 paint best :lol:

[Thomas P]

Yea, i think that paint is the best :D..have some real nice stickers coming up..


stay tuned..

[nitrokillah]

both your cares look spot on.
Love how they match both in coulour and paint job is nice as well.

[David Church]

Your cars look very nice indeed!!!

I should have my new shells for this weekend:thumbsup: eh Craig???

[Body Paint]

Just finished em now DC :thumbsup:

Fraid I didn't get MM's S2 finished tho' :thumbdown: there's a chance I may get out of work early tommorow but only a slim chance:(

I do like your shells Thomas, very interesting window on the S2. It's interesting to see what people do with the windows before I get the lines drawn into the mould

[ashleyb4]

Is your MM's S2 your micro craig?

A

[Thomas P]

Il see if i can get some beter pics on the stickers..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031116.jpg
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[David Church]

Just finished em now DC :thumbsup:

Fraid I didn't get MM's S2 finished tho' :thumbdown: there's a chance I may get out of work early tommorow but only a slim chance:(

I do like your shells Thomas, very interesting window on the S2. It's interesting to see what people do with the windows before I get the lines drawn into the mould


Sweet!!!! Thanks dude:thumbsup:

I must say that all the AC shells look the nuts:thumbsup:

[strobe]

Ash. I think Craig is referring to me about MM's S2 shell.
Craig. Don't worry if the shell is not finished. Can you bring the S4 shell that you have done for me.

[ashleyb4]

o mark morris

A got ya

[SHY]

Picked up my S2 today!

To be honest I have wondered if Thomas P was a religious fanatic :D ...

But now I understand what it's all about!

-That carbon tub is the best looking RC part I have ever seen! This is F1! :wub
-Everything is meticilously packed and marked
-Very cool & distinct bodyshell

And I know it all works! In God and Elvo we trust! :D

Jonathan, I take my hat off and take a deep bow! Talk about taking pride in your work!

[elvo]

Thx dude.


So... you dislike the S4 shell, but you like the S2 shell? :confused:

[SHY]

Yes, those front air intakes are simply way too large and "bulky" for my taste. I'm so sorry! :( Looks like two giant nostrils on a dragon :D

The atomized B44 shell is better, it's not so pronounced on that one.

But again, don't worry about me. If you like it that's great! :thumbsup:

[mattym0310]

I think i prefer the atomized b44 one as it sits lower than the s4 one, which I think is a bit tall, but still looks ace.

[ben]

Yes, those front air intakes are simply way too large and "bulky" for my taste. I'm so sorry! :( Looks like two giant nostrils on a dragon :D



Good air intakes !!! :lol:

[SHY]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2006/day6/bigimages/daysix110.jpg

Me like intakes like that! :)

[Thomas P]

If you ask me, the S4 is one of the best looking bodys ever...first, i realy hated it...but now, just luuuv it..the atomized B44 body aint half as good looking as the S4 :D

[Body Paint]

Next you need to comliment the S2 shell Thomas :D.

Glad you like it Shy:)

And Elvo: why are you so surprised Shy likes the S2 shell? You and me are going to have a falling out boyo:lol:

[Thomas P]

S2..is state of the art...i like that shell so much..if ya ask me.. so sorry, there is only 2 bodies...Ess2 and Ess4 :D

[Body Paint]

:D:D:D That's Thomas back in my good books LOL

[Thomas P]

Premier on dirt with this beauty,@ söderhamn, loose sand track... dont mind the spring-color, they are little "turfie"...have to tes some when i arrive...gonna be hard, 2wd and 4wd same day...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/s2/S5031562.jpg

[elvo]

And Elvo: why are you so surprised Shy likes the S2 shell? You and me are going to have a falling out boyo:lol:

B ecause I've known him for a long time, and am well aware of his gayness :D

[Body Paint]

WHAT!!! This is getting worse... you are now claiming you have to be Gay to like my beautifully crafted bodyshell...... :mad::lol:

[Northy]

Elvo - are you a "Gay-ist"? :o

G

[SHY]

Elvo is an AE-man and homofobic, very rare combination :D

[Thomas P]

Race update - SÖderhamn Mayrace

Track condition - Lose,dusty,rough,slippery and sometimes good grip..

The track is one of my favorite tracks, real Dirt!..one day event, 2wd and 4wd..i took the S2 with me for a test, had no plans to do "well", this was the first test on dirt with my car...my maine class is 4wd with the S4..

Practice was good, the track is slippery, the car felt little...i lost traction on power out of corners, but many other had this problem to, what other said it looks like the car handled good, and i think so to..there was NO time for big setup change.. and it was app 31 starting in the 2wd class.. Daniel Aka Bbq took TQ, and the Win...i manage to take 2nd qualification to A-Final before a bunch of real good drivers https://download.storegate.se/b2O7Otye2RCIm02WQMJ6Tyt;9r2+1ktlsPBGUCXZlIvlhdRkcE m1yg==/Resultat_Majracet.pdf

to bad, it was stress,less rutine from my side...i finished 7th and i am happy, the car works real good, but i think i will only drive one car at the time...

Last in the racereport (in Swe sorry) i have attached a Setup sheet..

http://rc-xtreme.blogspot.com/

http://bp3.blogger.com/_09G2RKcaPXM/SDkjx_WJSLI/AAAAAAAAAZU/I8MSXH0UuJY/s1600-h/s%C3%B6derhamn_s2_24_5_2008.jpg

[kriske]

My S2.

http://nl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zogsc1&s=3


kriske.

[mattym0310]

car looks ace kriske

[kriske]

car looks ace kriske


thanks mattym :thumbsup:

[derek5]

Hi Thomas,
i'm now to plan to buy the BJ4WE conversion kit, i have a question is about the rear arm, in BJ4WE, the shock is fix at the front of it, but when i look some pics from this forum, all of them change the shock to the back of rear arm, is it i need to make a hole at the back? or this is the new rear arm include in the conversion kit? many thanks!

[delanobe]

You should have posted your 2 S2's. :thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Hi Derek, as i said in my PM, ya will recive on pair fresh rear arms in this kit, later ya have to buy and drillém for ya self :)

[Thomas P]

My car is sold to a frined in my club..he is real glad for this, and i am to for him. Better to let someone that like 2wd run the car...

one thing..the car weights 1459 with out a body!!! around weight limit with the body :D..sick

[Foppa]

The body puts on some weight 1459g with no body no transponder 1520g with body and transponder

I will take good care of this car Thomas dont worry. Its fantastic!!!

[Thomas P]

What is the benefit with the "new" S2 vs the first "tube s2" car? i have read somewhere that the new one have bigger adjustment in wheelbase?

Any affects on loose tracks etc ? anything else that is new?

Anyone?

gonna pick up mine tomorow :D

[Junior Z]

What is the benefit with the "new" S2 vs the first "tube s2" car? i have read somewhere that the new one have bigger adjustment in wheelbase?

Any affects on loose tracks etc ? anything else that is new?

Anyone?

gonna pick up mine tomorow :D

Chassis tub version SWB is 1cm shorter than basic chassis tub version.
But rear suspesion arms are 6mm more behind on SWB version.
(Wedging 6mm front fo the suspension arm).
Then wheel balance is 4mm shorter for the SWB version than first version.

I try SWB but i find it very aggressive steering, but I have to try again...

[Thomas P]

Ok, this version has a lot of steering if im right? How about rear grip?

It is easier in my meaning to work steering away then find it.

If i not remebering wrong, when i used my old s2 (first tube verison) it was kind of slippery on real loose tracks...the end was almost everywhere...but the car was working REAL good, took me to 3rd pos Qual of 31 finished 7th 2008/05

[matdodd]

The SWB car was a better car all round & had far more traction than the old one.

[Thomas P]

Thanks Matt, glad to hear that :D

[Junior Z]

The SWB car was a better car all round & had far more traction than the old one.

I never have traction problems with first version...

[Thomas P]

I have let a friend on a machineshop make some Brass hingpin braces for the S2 car... and the little pece that will adjust the w-base in brass to. Maybe a week or 2, for some extra weight

Rear
Front/rear
Adjust pece rear

[Junior Z]

Could you show us your futur machined parts with some pictures? ;)

[Thomas P]

Yes asap they are done i can show you Junior..i think he will start with them next week. The alloy RB5 front bulk must be ready first...

il be back soon

/T

[Thomas P]

Starting slowly to put the car together..some details are missing...fox Brass hingepin braces..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0076.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0078.jpg

Am i lucky or what..saved my old unused S2 lid..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0079.jpg

[till]

deam that slipper looks nice!!!!
the rest of the car of course too!

nice work

[Thomas P]

Thx till, kinda cool :D...just regular 1:18 rimcovers...from decaldesigns,trimmed to fit...

[Wacker1]

Hi all,

I just thought I'd Post some Photos of my Mates NEW SWB Atomic S2, as it has some Exclusive 'WHITE' Gearbox Casings fitted to it, which look well 'Pimp', specially with the White Bodyshell & Wing as well.:thumbsup:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk76/Wacker1_photos/JamessAtomicS22.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk76/Wacker1_photos/JamessAtomicS23.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk76/Wacker1_photos/JamessAtomicS24.jpg

[Chris Doughty]

ditch the RPM front bumper and it would look pimpin' :thumbsup:

[GRIFF55]

Very nice!! if it were me, i'd go for white call cups too:drool:

[V-Rossi]

Very nice car, lose the blue bumper and place soms white ball cups and it looks a lot less gay:lol:

[Chris Doughty]

good call on the white ball cups! :thumbsup:

JConcepts white ones would be great!

[Body Paint]

Losi ones would look better, and thay don't get filthy dirty the first time you touch them

[Thomas P]

Like it alot!, but i think the RPM-bumper kills the last "touch".

cant wait to get my done now, hopfully IF im luck my brass rear hingpinbrace are done

[V-Rossi]

Losi ones would look better, and thay don't get filthy dirty the first time you touch them
Just put 2 thin layers of foam on the inside of some old pliers to take the ball cups off, they won't get dirty :)

[dogpinkscot]

hi guys regarding the biggg blue rpm bumper its only there to hold the front on as the car has been converted from a factory team T4:p

also thanks to jonathon at atomic for the white gearbox:thumbsup:

my son james is over the moooon with it :woot:

it makes my black gearbox look booooooring:confused:

[V-Rossi]

From a T4? Isn't it too wide for racing regulations then?

[Thomas P]

Well, a update regarding my S2 is here..the first rear protoyp Hingepinbrace is done.. there will be som small mods on that one, cuntersunk etc.. no pics today,will be here tomorov.

The weight is app between 20-29 gram for the rear brace, the "front,rear" will be little lighter, i think we will havv around 50 gram + -...

[Thomas P]

Update. Some small issiues have come up, the machine that does all this work, wont work as good as we thought it should...so for the moment

There is a 1 anti/3toe rear hingepinbrace done..and the little square done tomorrov i hope.

I hope all my alu is glass-sanded (compressed air) every single aly peace on my cars will be "grey" alloy

The chassi is Lipo ready to...

JUst waitning for some team wave products :)

[Thomas P]

So, finaly i picked up some parts...i am realy pleased with the result...

The Lipo brace will be one of a kind, be sur eon that one...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0011.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0010.jpg

SOme parts...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0009.jpg

[V-Rossi]

Looks very nice, the brass rear brace as well, what does it weigh extra compared to the standard carbon fibre pieces?

[Thomas P]

I think it was 29 + the little pice (maye 20 so say MAX 50gr) vs app a few grams only for the CF parts..

[Thomas P]

Just some small update...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0001.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0002.jpg

[Thomas P]

Testmounted some old tires, and trimed my Lid.i think it looks nice :)?

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0013.jpg

[Thomas P]

Almost done, just wanted to see how it looksed, so i mounted AE shocks...Losi are on the way

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0037.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0039.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0040.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0041.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0042.jpg

[V-Rossi]

Looks very nice, but how will you prevent the battery packs from sliding to the back of the car? I know you have a Li-Po tray, but normally lead is used which will raise your battery pack over the tray height.

[Thomas P]

I wont run my S2 with any Led. the only Extra i use is the brass reartoe block. Im no fan of extra weight, and i think with some laboration with the setup i will find a descent one for my car. I am against Led cant stand the thought of it :D... (i have been running my erlier S2 with only 5 cells) and that aint such a big diffrence between 5 cells and the Lipo packs im using)

Thanks ROssi for the comments, a ic when the ESC and motor is installed will be up asap the arrives to me..

[V-Rossi]

I like to run it with some extra weight, depending on the track. I always use at least 100gr of lead under the Trakpower packs, but on some tracks 200gr is just awesome.

[Thomas P]

Yes i know, mostley led is used Rossi, but i think anyway i will run it without. But who knows maybe i have to rethink :D (but i do not think so) ;)

[Thomas P]

Missing the Front shockmount bushings and will buy some extrea .6 shockshafts..the one in place is now AE .71...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0045.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0046.jpg

[V-Rossi]

Looks great (but has an S2 ever been ugly?) :thumbsup:

[Thomas P]

Rossi, nope never ever... :D Still waiting for my Electronics...:/

[Thomas P]

Finaly :D:D I ma PLEASED!!!



http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0094.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0096.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0097.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/S2%20SWB/DSC_0098.jpg

[thom.p]

Hi Thomas Im also thinking of buying a TW RB50 so... whats your first impression?

[V-Rossi]

And what receiver are you using? Is that the tiny 2,4Ghz one from KO Propo?

[Thomas P]

thom.p im using the RB-30 series in my 2wd, havnt tired it yet :D:D, it can with a fan handle a 6.5T. the RB-50 i have in my S4 (pics soon)

Its the Spectrum reciver (spectrum´s own) the micro Pro one :)

[Thomas P]

So sorry for my late reply´s..i have been busy with my work and my family,so the updates have not come up...this is some small text from the past Tuesday and Thursday...

Tuesday : This was my grand opening...have not been driving any car on this track since the Swedish nationals last year on the Astro track "green hill". Season 2009 i have bought me a Atomic carbon S2 SWB check Atomic Carbon Site here---> Hit me (http://atomic-carbon.gforceimages.net/ck.html) This is the new improved 2wd car from them, the biggest result of change is the wheelbase ( SWB-Short wheel base). Anyway @ the track i was kind of vervous and i think it went well..small mistakes, but longer running,better it went.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/skarpnack/DSC_0003.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/skarpnack/DSC_0003-1.jpg

Geared 25/81 - TeamWave RB-30 , 7.5T motor, never over 54 celsius, 29 deg on ESC

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/skarpnack/DSC_0004-1.jpg

clubmates car on the local track "Green hill" Astroturftrack / Sweden

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/skarpnack/DSC_0029.jpg

[Thomas P]

Raceready with led - 1480gr...and what a car!!!!! little to little highspeed steering, but that will be fixed, Low and medium steering is SICK good!!..i can puch it real hard...it works real good on our astro track

[Thomas P]

So...finaly i raced my S2 SWB..for the first time, and 3rd time overall with 2wd out doors.. (2 race erlier was May race 2008 old S2 Qualified 2nd or 3rd finished 7 or 8 , and a B4 in Swe nationals 2007 finished A main app 7-9 cant remember).

This time it was Sweden cup Orebro like last year..last year i only raced the S4 qualified 9th to Amain and finished 9th...so in 2wd i had NO hope since my favorite is the 4wd class...a lot of GOOD drivers was here, so i finaly took last place in A main..finished after thre finals as number 5..i am VERY pleased!! the car i so dialed!!!!!!!!!

pics will come up later.

[Rebelrc]

Any S2's ever snapped their back end off?

[V-Rossi]

Never heard of a S2 breaking at the rear end...

[OldTimer]

Any S2's ever snapped their back end off?
No...

[Rebelrc]

Cheers jonathan:)

[Thomas P]

Only one i did find on my car..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/sverigecupen%20orebro%202009/IMG_9281.jpg