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jimmy
08-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Ive got a couple of new reedy Ti motors - the regular ones nothing fancy. I'm used to the low maintenace of the orion V2 type motors though and I don't like the idea of doing anything to a motor during a race day - preferable do a couple or more race meetings without looking at it.
Do the expensive high silver brushes you can get make a big difference - and who makes them / what's best? Not used a traditional motor really for years so I know little! :lol:
You moving away from brushless jimmy :confused:. Im pretty sure you would get 2 or 3 meetings or more out of the high silver brushes but arent they like £20 a pair? But your gonna have to skim the motors after about 3 or 4 runs anyway surely?
ben
jimmy
08-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Oh right, are they still hard on the comms? I don't skim my orions often, more like 4 meetings or so :woot:
if that's the case I might just keep them for 'special occasions' or something
moving away, naaah. I've only run brushed in the Durga though and I've never considered running brushless in 2WD. I've got a couple of brushless systems at home so I'll not be 'giving up' just yet, I'll be running them in the 501X and other stuff. ;)
Elliott Hopkins
08-04-2008, 02:47 PM
I've had a 10x2 Reedy Ti Worlds with laydown brushes in my BJ4 WE for about 7 or 8 packs from it's last skim with no deep troubling or discolouration of the comm and no noticeable loss of performance.
I was surprised. I thought under race conditions, I'd need to be skimming at lunch. I can see another 8 packs going in the car before the arm comes out.
Although I think standard non worlds Tis have upright brushes. So it might be a different case.
Elliott.
jimmy
08-04-2008, 02:50 PM
yeah these are normal Ti's - I actually have about 5/6 reedy Ti's and I never use them any more, but I recently got these two brand new ones and another which has only done a couple of runs. I got them at a good price (free) so I want to try get some use from them.
The comms on laydown motors wear like crazy, but the std Ti's have a normal wearing rate.
I think that the high-silver brushes are a must-have for those motors. They leave a kind of silver surface on the comm. I used to have like 20 runs between two skims and maybe 60-80 runs before changing the brushes, with no perf drop. Mad ! (assuming you don't burn them by over or under-gearing).
The best ones are, I think, the CS ones (#T605) and the Trinity XXX series. The only problem is that they don't like being run on rainy conditions.
Hope that helps !
jimmy
08-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Thanks Gayo, I think I will put a wanted up and see if anyone has any they want to sell before shopping for new ones as they aren't cheap!
bigred5765
08-04-2008, 03:37 PM
i got 3-4 pairs u can have jimmy see u at southport
I dont think the CS ones are that bad jimmy, im sure schuey will have them on their site.
I seem to remember £11:confused:
jimmy
08-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Carl is the man - see you there bud! unless it's snowing :(:lol:
super__dan
08-04-2008, 05:35 PM
I ran some of these before checkpoints, I forget the fancy Reedy name, maybe Krypton or something but you couls buy the same brush from LRP, CS sounds familiar too, Basically they were LOADS better for wear than the stock ones and lasted many skims but they were expensive (£15 ish at the time) worth every penny though!
Southwell
09-04-2008, 07:54 AM
Ive got a couple of new reedy Ti motors - the regular ones nothing fancy. I'm used to the low maintenace of the orion V2 type motors though and I don't like the idea of doing anything to a motor during a race day - preferable do a couple or more race meetings without looking at it.
Do the expensive high silver brushes you can get make a big difference - and who makes them / what's best? Not used a traditional motor really for years so I know little! :lol:
Arn't they the plutonium brushes? Millzy ran them last year, they lasted forever but i was still skimming the comms every couple of runs! :thumbdown:
millzy
09-04-2008, 10:12 AM
i remeber the firts lot i had really put wear on my old school Ti motors, i cant remeber if they got better with the new infinity motors or the Ti worlds motors, but like Ian said you will still need to skim the motor 2twice a day.
(i still have a box of 14 coms Ian that you where ment to skim lol)
LRP do a cheaper brush thats high silver.
Honsest opinion is the checkpoints are better faster and last longer.
jimmy
09-04-2008, 10:23 AM
I've never used a checkpoint tbh, but I really like the orion motors. I don't want to be cutting coms, I have a lathe somewhere but I severely dislike doing stuff like that. I don't even have time to change a motor at a race meeting usually.
Jimmy, if you can, get a checkpoint motor, they are just a V2 motor that has actually been thought about, its better in every way IMO
I ran a 10x2 in the bj4 and skimmed it after each meeting , just because i could, the brushes lasted the whole regional series:thumbsup:
jimmy
09-04-2008, 10:53 AM
Well if I can pick one up cheap then I might do, but I've got 4 orions and about 6 reedy Ti's to go through :)
I remember running a Reedy Ti 12x1 in touring cars when we had the 12 turn limit, we used to wind them right up and gear them to the moon, i put a new motor in for the national, it was fit for the bin after the meeting.
We just cooked them every run:thumbdown:, i remember CD and a few of the top guys getting them so hot the solder holding the windings on would melt and they would throw a wind:thumbdown:
On road Is gay:thumbsup:
markwilliamson2001
09-04-2008, 11:02 AM
Yes that is the problem with On-Road, which I eventually found out to my disadvanatge, when running at Stafford club when I was a student. My cells and motor, as well as the fact I was running a TC3 when the Yokomo BD was running well. On-Road is definately more equipment orientated than Off-road.
Cockerill
09-04-2008, 11:43 AM
We just cooked them every run:thumbdown:, i remember CD and a few of the top guys getting them so hot the solder holding the windings on would melt and they would throw a wind:thumbdown:
On road Is gay:thumbsup:
I used to melt solder on brushed motors/arms quite regularly, does that make me a 'top guy' or an animal :confused:
Agreed that on road is gay :thumbsup:
Tom,
Definately an animal:lol: and the top guy bit depends on what final you qualify in on the day
Bury national = top guy
Worksop 4wd = amateur:lol: but i was even worse:thumbdown:
I
On road Is gay:thumbsup:
You said it. Gayer than a handbag full of rainbows.
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